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Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
« on: July 05, 2007, 05:11:26 PM »
1 in 5 Americans believe Sun revolves around the Earth

A light bulb appears over my head. I finally get it.

For the democratic process to run properly it necessitates the voter to have some knowledge of what he is voting on.  For it to work properly it requires voters to cast their votes based on an educated opinion.  If you are going to vote on something like stem cell research you should at least know what it is, correct?

Sadly, that isn’t how many American vote, as is obvious when during an election year people are talking about whether or not someone “looks presidential” and whether the person looks “likeable”. Well the question is, how can Americans vote on such things as global warming, stem cell research, cloning and what have you when basic scientific fundamental concepts fly right over our heads.

"American adults in general do not understand what molecules are (other than that they are really small). Fewer than a third can identify DNA as a key to heredity. Only about 10 percent know what radiation is. One adult American in five thinks the Sun revolves around the Earth, an idea science had abandoned by the 17th century." Said Jon D. Miller, a political scientists who directs the Center for Biomedical Communications at the Northwestern University Medical School in Chicago, he regularly surveys Americans for his clients which include the National Science Foundation on the public’s knowledge and attitudes towards science in general.
I mean, lets be honest, if you don’t know what a fucking cell is how can you understand what stem cell research is enough to vote on it?

And according to this guy most Americans don’t know what a cell is. Then it hit me.  There is a reason why people are fighting so hard to get creationism taught in the public schools along side evolution as a scientific alternative. Like I said, it hit me. And it hit me hard.

Americans, on top of not having a clue what a cell is or what radiation is or even that the Earth revolves around the Sun are letting religious leaders dictate to them what to vote on issues that would take knowledge of basic scientific fundamentals, because I am assuming that they are assuming that since these religious leaders are supposedly moral and ethical “authorities” they should be qualified to figure out where we stand on these scientific issues, but who is to say that they even know these basic scientific concepts?

What a dangerous misstep.

Fact: Polls show that in general, people who adhere to fundamentalist views are not well educated.

Those things go hand in hand. He says that every time he goes on the radio to talk about his findings he gets people from the listening area sending him cards in the mail saying that they will pray for him. So I take it even though they don’t understand what he is talking about when he refers to “DNA” they know that people that use big words like that are most likely going to hell.

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Source: Scientific Savvy? In U.S., Not Much, New York Times, August 30, 2005

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Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2007, 05:18:13 PM »
A certain portion of the population will always be stupid.

Intelligence has shown to be normally distributed and I think you know that.

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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2007, 05:22:28 PM »
How's this for distribution of stupidity...

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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2007, 05:29:01 PM »
A certain portion of the population will always be stupid.

Intelligence has shown to be normally distributed and I think you know that.
Not true at all.  Too many vairables involved.  Religion is the most responsible for ignorance though.

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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2007, 05:30:49 PM »
Some of the bigest idiots I ever seen me is been higher eduKation products.
There a big diff  'tween educated and smart.

That Sun revolves around the Earth thing is a little troubling though. I dont doubt the 1:5.

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 05:35:01 PM »
Some of the bigest idiots I ever seen me is been higher eduKation products.
There a big diff  'tween educated and smart.

That Sun revolves around the Earth thing is a little troubling though. I dont doubt the 1:5.

Something like 70% of americans CAN'T locate afghanistan on a globe.

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 05:35:55 PM »
and most of those who can locate it are in the military
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2007, 05:36:45 PM »
Where do these polls come from?

Nobodys ever asked me shit.

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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2007, 05:36:53 PM »
Something like 70% of americans CAN'T locate afghanistan on a globe.

Shit, I bet close to that cant locate their own city on a map or globe.
ANd theres plenty that cant find their ass w/ both hands.

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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2007, 05:37:07 PM »
Something like 70% of americans CAN'T locate afghanistan on a globe.

Not surprising when the entire government can't find WMD in Saddam's back yard.

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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2007, 05:37:14 PM »
and most of those who can locate it are in the military

hahaha The brutal truth.

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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2007, 05:38:44 PM »
http://www.flockofdodos.com/

A very good documentary on the idiocy of the religious right and conservative america

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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2007, 05:39:30 PM »
Religion is the most responsible for ignorance though.

Hahahahah. Thank god for communism!

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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2007, 05:40:00 PM »
Not surprising when the entire government can't find WMD in Saddam's back yard.

yup.  they were supposed to be the reason we went in there...  :-\
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2007, 05:43:15 PM »
Hahahahah. Thank god for communism!

Yeah, these guys need another Uncle Joe Stalin to thin the herd around here  ;D

They thought Hitler was bad, Joe was far worse.

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Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2007, 05:43:44 PM »
1 in 5 Americans believe Sun revolves around the Earth
A light bulb appears over my head.
I finally get it.
For the democratic process to run properly it necessitates the voter to have some knowledge of what he is voting on.
For it to work properly it requires voters to cast their votes based on an educated opinion.
If you are going to vote on something like stem cell research you should at least know what it is, correct?
Sadly, that isn’t how many American vote, as is obvious when during an election year people are talking about whether or not someone “looks presidential” and whether the person looks “likeable”.
Well the question is, how can Americans vote on such things as global warming, stem cell research, cloning and what have you when basic scientific fundamental concepts fly right over our heads.
"American adults in general do not understand what molecules are (other than that they are really small). Fewer than a third can identify DNA as a key to heredity. Only about 10 percent know what radiation is. One adult American in five thinks the Sun revolves around the Earth, an idea science had abandoned by the 17th century." Said Jon D. Miller, a political scientists who directs the Center for Biomedical Communications at the Northwestern University Medical School in Chicago, he regularly surveys Americans for his clients which include the National Science Foundation on the public’s knowledge and attitudes towards science in general.
I mean, lets be honest, if you don’t know what a fucking cell is how can you understand what stem cell research is enough to vote on it?
And according to this guy most Americans don’t know what a cell is.
Then it hit me.
There is a reason why people are fighting so hard to get creationism taught in the public schools along side evolution as a scientific alternative.
Like I said, it hit me. And it hit me hard.
Americans, on top of not having a clue what a cell is or what radiation is or even that the Earth revolves around the Sun are letting religious leaders dictate to them what to vote on issues that would take knowledge of basic scientific fundamentals, because I am assuming that they are assuming that since these religious leaders are supposedly moral and ethical “authorities” they should be qualified to figure out where we stand on these scientific issues, but who is to say that they even know these basic scientific concepts?
What a dangerous misstep.
Fact: Polls show that in general, people who adhere to fundamentalist views are not well educated.
Those things go hand in hand.
He says that every time he goes on the radio to talk about his findings he gets people from the listening area sending him cards in the mail saying that they will pray for him.
So I take it even though they don’t understand what he is talking about when he refers to “DNA” they know that people that use big words like that are most likely going to hell.

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Source: Scientific Savvy? In U.S., Not Much, New York Times, August 30, 2005


If you were SMART...you would know that america is not a DEMOCRACY...IT IS A REPUBLIC and the only thing that would even mildly suggest that there is anything democratic about it is the fact that the public "IS ALLOWED" to vote....even though their votes are not counted because presidents are SELECTED...not elected. Outside of that it is a DICTATORSHIP under the control of CORPORATIONS.

Is a light going off in your head now???

When does the president confront the masses in times when a decision must be made.....NEVER!!!!...therefore there is NO DEMOCRACY. So called representatives are bought by corporations and made to speak for the corporation as oppose to the people making their representative hear their wants and then make them known to the president or government. THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN AMERICA. So regardless of what you feel about the intelligence level of americans...and I will admit they are not the smartest people by a long shot, you must first understand the felonious system of government at work in america to know why america is in the shape that it is in.
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Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2007, 05:54:00 PM »
Not true at all.  Too many vairables involved.  Religion is the most responsible for ignorance though.

Intelligence, by any of the usual scales, is definitely normally distributed (the measurement of it deliberately makes it so).  Inluding religion won't alter the distribution being normal, but if you were to draw two distributions, one for relgious and one for nonreligious people, the distributions typically don't have the same mean.  

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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2007, 06:02:05 PM »
Too many variables are at play in such a study where the source is unknown. Are the people being surveyed teenagers, middle aged or senile elderly?

What part of the country, or is it a national poll?
 ...etc, etc.

Ignorance will always exist...do you think the people who have to work 50, 60, 70+ hours a week to pay the bills, give a shit where buttfuck, Afghanistan is, or what natural selection is?

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Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2007, 06:03:13 PM »
stupider is not a word.  i hope you were being sarcastic.

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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2007, 06:07:17 PM »
If you were SMART...you would know that america is not a DEMOCRACY...IT IS A REPUBLIC and the only thing that would even mildly suggest that there is anything democratic about it is the fact that the public "IS ALLOWED" to vote....even though their votes are not counted because presidents are SELECTED...not elected. Outside of that it is a DICTATORSHIP under the control of CORPORATIONS.

Is a light going off in your head now???

When does the president confront the masses in times when a decision must be made.....NEVER!!!!...therefore there is NO DEMOCRACY. So called representatives are bought by corporations and made to speak for the corporation as oppose to the people making their representative hear their wants and then make them known to the president or government. THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN AMERICA. So regardless of what you feel about the intelligence level of americans...and I will admit they are not the smartest people by a long shot, you must first understand the felonious system of government at work in america to know why america is in the shape that it is in.

Thats real thoughtful, Samson. Give me your honest opinion, was 9/11 an "inside job"?  ::)

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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2007, 06:08:47 PM »
Is stupider even a real word? :P

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Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2007, 06:13:01 PM »
1 in 5 Americans believe Sun revolves around the Earth

what if it did?  what would it change in your life?  do you think you are a superior human being/citizen because you know it is the other way around?

re: voter stupidity, read "the wisdom of crowds" by james surowiecki

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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2007, 06:23:53 PM »
Thats real thoughtful, Samson. Give me your honest opinion, was 9/11 an "inside job"?  ::)

There is plenty of information out there to answer your question...try getting off this board for a while and finding out...
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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2007, 06:30:16 PM »
4 out of 5 Americans would have properly titled this thread "Oh my, how much more stupid can America get"

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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2007, 06:43:42 PM »
There is plenty of information out there to answer your question...try getting off this board for a while and finding out...

Thanks for the suggestion, But I've already read an official explanation that I'm quite satisfied with. Tell me your opinion about Tower 7. Was it a "controlled demolition"?  ;D

Were the sheeple lead into a war for oil controlled by transnational corporations? Did America REALLY land a man on the moon? How about cold fusion, did nefarious energy companies hide the truth so they could continue to profit from the idiot populace ? I'm really interested in your thoughts.  :-*