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Title: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on July 08, 2007, 10:15:18 PM
This occurred to me from reading the posts of some board members that claim to be religious.

When a person claims to be religious yet openly hates people just because they are different that would seem to me to be hypocritical. It would seem to be at odds with the beliefs of most if not all religions.

I'm curious if any legitimate religions find it appropriate to openly ridicule the physical appearance of older people.

It's been a while since I've followed Catholicism closely but I don't remember it supporting these behaviors.
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: The Coach on July 08, 2007, 10:53:17 PM
This occurred to me from reading the posts of some board members that claim to be religious.

When a person claims to be religious yet openly hates people just because they are different that would seem to me to be hypocritical. It would seem to be at odds with the beliefs of most if not all religions.

I'm curious if any legitimate religions find it appropriate to openly ridicule the physical appearance of older people.

It's been a while since I've followed Catholicism closely but I don't remember it supporting these behaviors.

CRICKETS
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on July 08, 2007, 10:55:09 PM
It's a shame...
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 09, 2007, 12:11:49 AM
This occurred to me from reading the posts of some board members that claim to be religious.

When a person claims to be religious yet openly hates people just because they are different that would seem to me to be hypocritical. It would seem to be at odds with the beliefs of most if not all religions.

I'm curious if any legitimate religions find it appropriate to openly ridicule the physical appearance of older people.

It's been a while since I've followed Catholicism closely but I don't remember it supporting these behaviors.

I can hear your sobbing from Baltimore. 
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: Dos Equis on July 09, 2007, 12:17:19 AM
 ::)  What a stupid thread. 
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on July 09, 2007, 12:58:00 AM
Ouch, I'm devastated by the triumvirate of neotaints that don't like my thread. I'm going to need a few days to recover.

Mr. Hate, the kid that spews "mom jokes" and the clown that wants everyone under the age of 30 that isn't married to stop having sex and that follows another clown who abdicates showering with your son with the express purpose of showing him your penis. Psst, that makes him not gay.

Yep, those are some influential posters to have dislike your thread.

Two of  these clowns happen to be religious yet they belittled the appearance of a middle aged woman whose son died in Iraq.  ::)

Nice job.

I'm searching the Bible as we speak for the part that says that's appropriate behavior.

CRICKETS

Bwaaahhhhhhaaaaaaaaa

Any little victory Mr. Hate.

It's after 1 A.M. and this is the Religious Board, I suppose you were so excited to see no replies within 10 minutes of me starting the thread that you got too excited to think about that fact.
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 09, 2007, 01:25:08 AM
Ouch, I'm devastated by the triumvirate of neotaints that don't like my thread. I'm going to need a few days to recover.
Mr. Hate, the kid that spews "mom jokes" and the clown that wants everyone under the age of 30 that isn't married to stop having sex and that follows another clown who abdicates showering with your son with the express purpose of showing him your penis. Psst, that makes him not gay.
It's after 1 A.M. and this is the Religious Board, I suppose you were so excited to see no replies within 10 minutes of me starting the thread that you got too excited to think about that fact.


It's always funny when someone is so desperate for something to say that they post an absurdly long thread that says absolutely nothing.  Keep calling me a "hater".. you're hurting my feelings.. really. ::)
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on July 09, 2007, 01:43:49 AM

It's always funny when someone is so desperate for something to say that they post an absurdly long thread that says absolutely nothing.  Keep calling me a "hater".. you're hurting my feelings.. really. ::)


Hey Johnny, how can I control the length of the thread? Do you know what a thread is?

Perhaps you were referring to my post and not my thread, no, that can't be it. You're smart enough to know the difference.

And yes, you're right, the post was absurdly long. Anything that takes 8 seconds to read is way too long.
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 09, 2007, 01:46:41 AM
Hey Johnny, how can I control the length of the thread? Do you know what a thread is?

Perhaps you were referring to my post and not my thread, no, that can't be it. You're smart enough to know the difference.

And yes, you're right, the post was absurdly long. Anything that takes 8 seconds to read is way too long.

Now you know my age AND my name.  WWWOOOOOWWWWW!!!!!!!

Well all is not lost... at least you knew what i was talking about if nothing else!
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on July 09, 2007, 01:55:33 AM
Now you know my age AND my name.  WWWOOOOOWWWWW!!!!!!!

Well all is not lost... at least you knew what i was talking about if nothing else!


You've been a devastating foe, it's always crushing to the person you're trying to insult when he has to explain YOUR insult.

Alas, this is the Religious Board and I don't want to continue spamming the thread with insult posts. It's not the board for it.
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 09, 2007, 02:15:51 AM
You've been a devastating foe, it's always crushing to the person you're trying to insult when he has to explain YOUR insult.

Alas, this is the Religious Board and I don't want to continue spamming the thread with insult posts. It's not the board for it.

Spoken like a true vagina.
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: Dos Equis on July 09, 2007, 09:58:45 AM

It's always funny when someone is so desperate for something to say that they post an absurdly long thread that says absolutely nothing.  Keep calling me a "hater".. you're hurting my feelings.. really. ::)


Here is what Thin Lizzy had to say about the Village Idiot:

Quote
author=Thin Lizzy]
Hey, Moron,

You like to ask everyone questions. Here's one for you:

Cite one thing I've ever posted that would qualify as Warmongering.

Here's another:

What do you bring to the table, here?

You're not particularly knowledgeable, or bright.

You have no sense of humor and aren't entertaining.

Your posts never have a point.

You can't follow an argument.

And, those are your positive attributes!

I'm trying to find a point that I disagree with, but, well . . . I can't.   :-\
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on July 09, 2007, 10:09:52 AM
LOL, I love it, researching someone else's posts from months ago to make your point. I suppose saying it yourself would have been too tough.

Again, the fact that someone that doesn't want anyone under the age of 30 that isn't married to have sex doesn't agree with my posts only makes me happy.

That he abdicates showing your son your penis because it will prevent him from being gay is only icing on the cake.

Religious hypocrite meltdown in 5....................... ................4....... ........................ .....3.................. .........2.............. ..........


Don't forget everyone, have your son pound a square peg into a square hole, it makes them not gay but only do that after you show him your penis.
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 09, 2007, 12:42:33 PM
Because religious folks think of themselves as infallible.
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: The Coach on July 09, 2007, 02:20:22 PM
LOL, I love it, researching someone else's posts from months ago to make your point. I suppose saying it yourself would have been too tough.

Again, the fact that someone that doesn't want anyone under the age of 30 that isn't married to have sex doesn't agree with my posts only makes me happy.

That he abdicates showing your son your penis because it will prevent him from being gay is only icing on the cake.

Religious hypocrite meltdown in 5....................... ................4....... ........................ .....3.................. .........2.............. ..........


Don't forget everyone, have your son pound a square peg into a square hole, it makes them not gay but only do that after you show him your penis.

I guess Thin Lizzy proved his point :-\!
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on July 09, 2007, 04:22:44 PM
I guess Thin Lizzy proved his point :-\!

A personal opinion isn't proof. It would have been more appropriate for you to say "I guess Thin Lizzy made his point".

You realize that in this instance a personal opinion isn't proof don't you Mr. Hate?

I just noticed the signature at the bottom of your post.

Do you pray for those Liberals that you wish death upon? After you post that you want someone that doesn't agree with you to be killed do you then pray for that person Mr. Hate?
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 09, 2007, 06:38:15 PM
A personal opinion isn't proof. It would have been more appropriate for you to say "I guess Thin Lizzy made his point".

You realize that in this instance a personal opinion isn't proof don't you Mr. Hate?

I just noticed the signature at the bottom of your post.

Do you pray for those Liberals that you wish death upon? After you post that you want someone that doesn't agree with you to be killed do you then pray for that person Mr. Hate?


Ha!.. It's your OPINION that he is hateful.  Now you have to PROVE it!!! hahahahahahahaaha... way to put your foot in your mouth dumbass!
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on July 09, 2007, 06:56:22 PM
Ha!.. It's your OPINION that he is hateful.  Now you have to PROVE it!!! hahahahahahahaaha... way to put your foot in your mouth dumbass!

Of course it's my opinion Prof. Hawking. Is this really a revelation and are you really basing the legitimacy of your post on that?

I think the "mom jokes" were more effective for you. When you have to do any critical thinking it doesn't seem to work out for you.


Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 09, 2007, 07:20:40 PM
Of course it's my opinion Prof. Hawking. Is this really a revelation and are you really basing the legitimacy of your post on that?

I think the "mom jokes" were more effective for you. When you have to do any critical thinking it doesn't seem to work out for you.




Okay num nuts... this coming from the guy who wants someone to "prove the future."?!?!?  hahahahaha... good one!
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on July 09, 2007, 07:55:58 PM
You said the US was far better off now and for the next 10-20 years with Bush as President, you said with anyone else the US would be in worse shape.

I asked for proof, of course you gave none and instead stammered nonsense about predicting the future. Notice how even now when defending yourself you focus on the future part of your asinine statement?

At least I've given examples of Mr. Hate's hate. Just for future clarity Prof. Sagan, you can prove someone's opinion but the opinion itself isn't proof.

Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: The Coach on July 09, 2007, 08:34:45 PM
You said the US was far better off now and for the next 10-20 years with Bush as President, you said with anyone else the US would be in worse shape.



He's right, with anyone else (namely a liberal) we would be in worse shape, thanks to Bush, the US and other countries have foiled numerous terror attempts.....get with the program son!!
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on July 09, 2007, 08:53:46 PM
He's right, with anyone else (namely a liberal) we would be in worse shape, thanks to Bush, the US and other countries have foiled numerous terror attempts.....get with the program son!!

You know what I find most amusing about your post Mr. Hate? Not the main point of it, that idiocy stands on its own. I find the fact that you think you have the wisdom to call anyone else "son" to be hilarious.

Calling someone else son implies that you have a greater intelligence than that person. Which in your case.... well we all know the sad truth about that. At least this time you spelled son correctly, last time you tried to act superior you spelled junior as junuor.

Thanks for the post Mr. Hate, I'll be laughing about it for a while.
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 09, 2007, 09:08:31 PM
You know what I find most amusing about your post Mr. Hate? Not the main point of it, that idiocy stands on its own. I find the fact that you think you have the wisdom to call anyone else "son" to be hilarious.

Calling someone else son implies that you have a greater intelligence than that person. Which in your case.... well we all know the sad truth about that. At least this time you spelled son correctly, last time you tried to act superior you spelled junior as junuor.

Thanks for the post Mr. Hate, I'll be laughing about it for a while.

What's even more funny is every time someone you "hate" says something intelligent or that makes a modicum of sense you respond with insults and slander (and very unoriginal ones at that).  Classic signs of having no understanding of the debate or nothing to support your side with. 

lol.... good lord.  I shouldn't be surprised coming from your typical whining liberal dirt stain.  Please SON.. continue with the self ownage! hahahahah ;D
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on July 09, 2007, 09:25:20 PM
What's even more funny is every time someone you "hate" says something intelligent or that makes a modicum of sense you respond with insults and slander (and very unoriginal ones at that).  Classic signs of having no understanding of the debate or nothing to support your side with. 

lol.... good lord.  I shouldn't be surprised coming from your typical whining liberal dirt stain.  Please SON.. continue with the self ownage! hahahahah ;D

I like how you skipped over my post directed at you, presumably because you had no rebuttal and instead chose to focus on my rebuttal to Mr. Hate, interesting strategy.

The reason there is no debate is because there's no way to quantify your point that we're better off with Bush in office. You can state your opinion on the matter but ultimately that means nothing, it proves nothing.

Most moderately intelligent adults would be able to comprehend that.

Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: The Coach on July 09, 2007, 10:44:37 PM
You know what I find most amusing about your post Mr. Hate? Not the main point of it, that idiocy stands on its own. I find the fact that you think you have the wisdom to call anyone else "son" to be hilarious.

Calling someone else son implies that you have a greater intelligence than that person. Which in your case.... well we all know the sad truth about that. At least this time you spelled son correctly, last time you tried to act superior you spelled junior as junuor.

Thanks for the post Mr. Hate, I'll be laughing about it for a while.

Keep laughing, As long as I'm right!
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: windsor88 on July 10, 2007, 06:08:49 AM
This occurred to me from reading the posts of some board members that claim to be religious.

When a person claims to be religious yet openly hates people just because they are different that would seem to me to be hypocritical. It would seem to be at odds with the beliefs of most if not all religions.

I'm curious if any legitimate religions find it appropriate to openly ridicule the physical appearance of older people.

It's been a while since I've followed Catholicism closely but I don't remember it supporting these behaviors.

Oh yeah.  That's how these people are.  If you are not one of them or have their appearance you are scum.  Back in '91 I was in a bit of trouble and my lawyer insisted I go to Church and get enrolled in college ASAP.  Not for any self enlightenment but to make it "look good" for the judge.  Well I went to that church for 2 months.  I knew no one and no one certainly made any attempt to get to know me.  The only one who talked to me was the preacher so he was OK in my book.  Everyone else looked at me like I was a freak show because I had long hair.  Shit..forget about all of the rumors that I found out about later when I quit going to that place.  These actions are all too common in religion.  The concept is great but when you have these people as ambassadors to God it really turns you off.  God might be OK but the people that represent him are a fucking disgrace.
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: Butterbean on July 10, 2007, 07:08:14 AM
This occurred to me from reading the posts of some board members that claim to be religious.

When a person claims to be religious yet openly hates people just because they are different that would seem to me to be hypocritical. It would seem to be at odds with the beliefs of most if not all religions.

I'm curious if any legitimate religions find it appropriate to openly ridicule the physical appearance of older people.

It's been a while since I've followed Catholicism closely but I don't remember it supporting these behaviors.
effin, what happened or is this from a discussion carried over from the Political Board or something?

Since you mention older people here are a few scriptures from the bible that seem to indicate that older people are to be respected:

Proverbs 16:31
Gray hair is a crown of splendor; it is attained by a righteous life.
Proverbs 16:30-32 (in Context) Proverbs 16 (Whole Chapter)

Proverbs 20:29
The glory of young men is their strength, gray hair the splendor of the old.
Proverbs 20:28-30 (in Context) Proverbs 20 (Whole Chapter)



Oh yeah.  That's how these people are.  If you are not one of them or have their appearance you are scum.  Back in '91 I was in a bit of trouble and my lawyer insisted I go to Church and get enrolled in college ASAP.  Not for any self enlightenment but to make it "look good" for the judge.  Well I went to that church for 2 months.  I knew no one and no one certainly made any attempt to get to know me.  The only one who talked to me was the preacher so he was OK in my book.  Everyone else looked at me like I was a freak show because I had long hair.  Shit..forget about all of the rumors that I found out about later when I quit going to that place.  These actions are all too common in religion.  The concept is great but when you have these people as ambassadors to God it really turns you off.  God might be OK but the people that represent him are a fucking disgrace.

windsor88, to a point I agree w/you that people that represent God can be a disgrace.  No human is perfect.  But I hope you don't base all your negative feelings from your experience w/one church.  Even if you just went "to make it look good for the judge," people at most churches wouldn't know that and even if they did would have more than likely approached you and welcomed you.  You think they didn't because you had long hair?  How long ago was that?  Don't let the actions of a few keep you from trying to know God.  Even if they don't, He loves you just as you are :)

Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: windsor88 on July 10, 2007, 09:12:10 AM
It was in 1991.  The tail end of the Metal phase.  No I never believed in the Bible.  Never will.  The church did not turn me off it was just something that reaffirmed my stance on people who claim to live the word of god.  Still holds true to this day. 
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on July 10, 2007, 11:53:31 AM
effin, what happened or is this from a discussion carried over from the Political Board or something?

Since you mention older people here are a few scriptures from the bible that seem to indicate that older people are to be respected:

Proverbs 16:31
Gray hair is a crown of splendor; it is attained by a righteous life.
Proverbs 16:30-32 (in Context) Proverbs 16 (Whole Chapter)

Proverbs 20:29
The glory of young men is their strength, gray hair the splendor of the old.
Proverbs 20:28-30 (in Context) Proverbs 20 (Whole Chapter)

The basis for my question is a thread on the Politics board but my question was for the Religious Board. I'm sorry it turned into a flame war. This isn't the board for that.

My question stems from reading posts that call for people with different political opinions to be killed and from reading posts ridiculing the appearance of a 50 something woman who's son was killed in Iraq, the people that made these posts claim to be religious. The posts seemed to me to contradict what a religious person would say. 

Again, I'm sorry for the direction this thread went. This will be my last post in it.
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on July 11, 2007, 01:41:48 AM
I'm afraid some "church people" (not all) are just in Church cause they're afraid of going to hell.  The kind that will run you over or cut line at uh... Cracker Barrel on Sunday after Church. LOL  The kind that make sure everyone around knows they're Christians.  :-\
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on July 11, 2007, 05:03:11 AM

When a person claims to be religious yet openly hates people just because they are different that would seem to me to be hypocritical.

yes..sometimes..

BUT..its human..its only human mate..
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: Butterbean on July 11, 2007, 07:48:12 AM
The basis for my question is a thread on the Politics board but my question was for the Religious Board. I'm sorry it turned into a flame war. This isn't the board for that.

My question stems from reading posts that call for people with different political opinions to be killed and from reading posts ridiculing the appearance of a 50 something woman who's son was killed in Iraq, the people that made these posts claim to be religious. The posts seemed to me to contradict what a religious person would say. 

Again, I'm sorry for the direction this thread went. This will be my last post in it.
No worries..you don't have to stop posting in this thread! 

No one is perfect and it sounds like tempers were raised which happens to everyone - "religious" or not.  Talking politics seems to raise blood pressure sometimes....that's why I mostly stay off of that board :)

Glad those tweezers worked out for you  ;D
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: Butterbean on July 11, 2007, 07:48:41 AM
yes..sometimes..

BUT..its human..its only human mate..
:)
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: genrommel74 on July 11, 2007, 03:37:23 PM
It was in 1991.  The tail end of the Metal phase.  No I never believed in the Bible.  Never will.  The church did not turn me off it was just something that reaffirmed my stance on people who claim to live the word of god.  Still holds true to this day. 
Bro you got to remember that people arent perfect and just because you had a bad example doesnt mean that that is the norm. IF you had come to my church(mormon), i guarntee that at least 4 people would have approached you on the first day you when
Title: Re: Is it hypocritical for a religious person to hate and ridicule other people?
Post by: 24KT on July 17, 2007, 06:12:13 AM
The basis for my question is a thread on the Politics board but my question was for the Religious Board. I'm sorry it turned into a flame war. This isn't the board for that.

My question stems from reading posts that call for people with different political opinions to be killed and from reading posts ridiculing the appearance of a 50 something woman who's son was killed in Iraq, the people that made these posts claim to be religious. The posts seemed to me to contradict what a religious person would say. 

Again, I'm sorry for the direction this thread went. This will be my last post in it.

What I don't understand is why YOU feel the need to apologize for the direction of the thread?
It's not like YOU were the one who turned it into a hostile name calling fest.

You raised a very legitimate question, ...which was met with hostilitiy.
If anything, you're not the one who needs to be apologizing for the direction of the thread.

...and since no one has decided to actually answer your question... I will.

I believe it's not only hypocritical, ...it's also delusional, ...and betrays an incredible amount of insecurity on the part of those who require such conformity from others. I believe that while they profess to have such incredible faith, the truth is, their faith is extremely fragile... so much so that it cannot survive exposure to anything or anyone who may think differently. In order to protect it... they must stamp out everything else that does not conform. It seems to me that if the faith was indeed strong, ...it would have the patience to allow others to come around to their way of thinking on their own... eventually, ...but a crusader will always be a crusader.  It's simply their nature. :-\