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Title: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: meatusheadus on July 15, 2007, 06:52:16 PM
Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...I sure would like to believe so.  Doc says I'm 210 here with no tan relaxed.  It pales in comparison to what lies below the waist (yes legs)... What you think?
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: danielson on July 15, 2007, 07:00:11 PM
Some people here think it is impossible to be a natural under 6 feet tall, under 6% bf and over 200 pounds. ::)
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2007, 07:01:19 PM
if you're going to compete at Mr Getbig, you need to get you ass posting, Danni is putting alot of faith in you, don't let him down.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: danielson on July 15, 2007, 07:03:54 PM
if you're going to compete at Mr Getbig, you need to get you ass posting, Danni is putting alot of faith in you, don't let him down.
He only needs 100 posts Chaos, Some people here can do that in a day. Do you think the above stats are impossible for a natural?
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2007, 07:07:16 PM
He only needs 100 posts Chaos, Some people here can do that in a day. Do you the above stats are impossible for a natural?
I think they are totally possible for a natural, now those # you threw up the other day (arms, legs, waist) I'm waiting for proof of those ;)

and he needs 100 posts min. and he's only got five, not off to a running start , huh?
The same people that could post 100x's a day need to get jobs.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: pobrecito on July 15, 2007, 07:09:01 PM
Your right nipple has gyno   ::)

Pro-hormones are not considered natural  :-\
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on July 15, 2007, 07:11:31 PM
I noticed that too, pob.

You ever been a hard drinker, Meat?  Really high alcohol consumption over time can actually cause that.

As far as your question, the answer is "Yes".  I'm living proof.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2007, 07:17:11 PM
Your right nipple has gyno   ::)

Pro-hormones are not considered natural  :-\
I wasn't staring at his nipples, but now that you point it out........
speak on this meatusheadus........
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Jerryme7 on July 15, 2007, 07:53:34 PM
Very possible!!!

I was 220 pounds at the hieght of 5'10" and a half naturally at age 19-20 and I was below 10% bodyfat

The lowest I ever dropped weight was 190-195 but I was skinny as a twig and ran a lot...this was in 97 when I jioned the military

WHat bodyfat percentage is your goal at the weight of 200 and above?

 
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: The Squadfather on July 15, 2007, 07:54:56 PM
Very possible!!!

I was 220 pounds at the hieght of 5'10" and a half naturally at age 19-20 and I was below 10% bodyfat

The lowest I ever dropped weight was 190-195 but I was skinny as a twig and ran a lot...this was in 97 when I jioned the military

WHat bodyfat percentage is your goal at the weight of 200 and above?

 
hahahaha, of course you were ::) so basically you're saying that you're more genetically gifted than Ronnie Coleman who was 210 at low bodyfat at 5'11" as a natural?
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Jerryme7 on July 15, 2007, 07:57:05 PM
They said Ronnie Coleman was natural during that time!! I truly believe it.

There are a lot of "Natural" footballs players who never juiced, who have low bodyfat that are over 200 pounds!

I dont believe Im genetically gifted or better than anyone here. I just know how to tell my side of the story :)

But one thing I do know is steriods really help you fulfill your genetic potential...
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2007, 08:06:36 PM
at my leanest I was 215-220, but I'm 6'2".
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Jerryme7 on July 15, 2007, 08:07:42 PM
Chaos....what bodyfat percentage?
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: shiftedShapes on July 15, 2007, 08:09:36 PM
Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...I sure would like to believe so.  Doc says I'm 210 here with no tan relaxed.  It pales in comparison to what lies below the waist (yes legs)... What you think?

nice gyno on the right nip

decent build, not exceptional

your quads are a stand out bodypart....but that cuts two-ways, also means you are disproportionate
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2007, 08:16:30 PM
Chaos....what bodyfat percentage?
never had it measured but I had veins in my lower abs, arms, shoulders, chest..................a aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh to be young and single again ;D




to be honest though, at my height, I think I looked like a toothpick. ;)
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Herc on July 15, 2007, 08:17:12 PM
6'foot at 200lbs is believable to me especially with some bodyfat.  5"10 at 220 I dont believe, at least not at 10percent bodyfat.  Im sure you really wieghed that but someone may have mest up on the bodyfat.    Arnold was around 6'1" and 235 in competition.  This would mean you are close to arnolds size natural since he has about 3 inches on you.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: The Squadfather on July 15, 2007, 08:18:27 PM
6'foot at 200lbs is believable to me especially with some bodyfat.  5"10 at 220 I dont believe, at least not at 10percent bodyfat.  Im sure you really wieghed that but someone may have mest up on the bodyfat.    Arnold was around 6'1" and 235 in competition.  This would mean you are close to arnolds size natural since he has about 3 inches on you.
not to mention at age 19 and completely natural. ::)
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Jerryme7 on July 15, 2007, 08:19:58 PM
You gotta remember, Arnold was on the juice then....

And during that time I was talkign about, I had veins in my shoulders and chest and a vein shwoing in my thighs... 
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Herc on July 15, 2007, 08:22:33 PM
thats my point, he was on the juice and you are claiming to be about as big as him without juice and he was at his time one of the biggest bodybuilders out there with drugs.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 15, 2007, 08:23:47 PM
This dude has a touch of gyno.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Jerryme7 on July 15, 2007, 08:24:39 PM
I can only talk about my experience....I know what is fact and what is fiction...
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: The Squadfather on July 15, 2007, 08:25:38 PM
I can only talk about my experience....I know what is fact and what is fiction...
let me guess, all the pictures that you had from that time mysteriously disappeared as well, right?
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Jerryme7 on July 15, 2007, 08:27:04 PM
To be honest with you, I dont talk to any of my family members so no, I dont have pics of me that old...
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2007, 08:28:20 PM
let me guess, all the pictures that you had from that time mysteriously disappeared as well, right?
yeah a pic of 5'10" at 220lbs would stand out even fully clothed

my pics at 215 I look normal :'(
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: The Squadfather on July 15, 2007, 08:31:35 PM
To be honest with you, I dont talk to any of my family members so no, I dont have pics of me that old...
of course not conveniently enough. ;)
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Jerryme7 on July 15, 2007, 08:32:35 PM
Chaos...when I was that weight and that age, I had this kid and this girl in Hawaii who trained at my gym  make fun of me because with clothes on, I looked like I didn train...but when I wore my workout clothes and tank top, I looked like I trained and worked out compared to those assholes...

You never met ayone that you thought didnt look like they would amount to anything but then when you see that person at the gym, you were shocked that they had musculature?

Anything is posible...
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Jerryme7 on July 15, 2007, 08:33:19 PM
No SquadFather..its the truth, I dont talk to any of my family members...
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2007, 08:40:10 PM
Chaos...when I was that weight and that age, I had this kid and this girl in Hawaii who trained at my gym  make fun of me because with clothes on, I looked like I didn train...but when I wore my workout clothes and tank top, I looked like I trained and worked out compared to those assholes...

You never met ayone that you thought didnt look like they would amount to anything but then when you see that person at the gym, you were shocked that they had musculature?

Anything is posible...
the only thing I find doubtful is your bodyfat claim, not your size, how did you come tothe conclusion you were under 10%? Who, how were you measured? Just wanna know
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Jerryme7 on July 15, 2007, 08:44:18 PM
And remember Frank Sepe when he was in high school? What a about Mike O'Hearn?
http://www.femalemuscle.com/wilkins/mike_ohearn.html

Mike O'Hearn - The Natural
By Rob Wilkins
Special Assistant to the International Federation of Bodybuilders

Mike's new movie - Barbarian

"You'll never make it unless you go on drugs!" This statement, delivered by a high school coach in `88, has been the main source of motivation for natural bodybuilding "Phenom," Mike O'Hearn.

O'Hearn, a 6'2, 270 lb high school All-American football player from Kirkland, Washington, was bound and determined not to "give-in" and use drugs. O'Hearn's parents had instilled in their son (O'Hearn is 8th of 9 children) that hard work and dedication was the way to "make it" in this world. Armed with these positive values, a "never give-up" attitude, and an unwavering desire to prove his coach wrong, O'Hearn was determined to become a success in life.

O'Hearn, first began competing at the age of 15 where he won first place in the "Teenage Washington State" competition. He has gone on to win many natural bodybuilding titles to include Mr. Universe (most recent '97), Mr. USA, and Mr. World.

As a child, O'Hearn was impressed with the strength of power lifting and it became his first love. To this day, he still competes in powerlifting events and has won the highly competitive California State powerlifting title three years in a row. Currently, his best lifts are a 505 bench press, a 740 deadlift and an 815 squat. Not one just to pump iron, O'Hearn, a talented martial artist, specializing in Judo, has won a number of martial arts titles to include the California State Judo Championships (a title he has won on three different occasions).

During the past decade, O'Hearn has earned "Supermodel" status in the bodybuilding/fitness industry appearing on over 200 magazine covers worldwide. He has done the talk show and entertainment circuit with appearances on "The Arsenio Hall Show," "Hard Copy" "Inside Edition," "The Phil Donahue Show," "The Montel Williams Show," "Entertainment Tonight," and many others. His impressive resume also consists of over 100 romance novel book covers, the cover of the 1999 Chippendale's calendar, training videos, and he remains undefeated in the fitness "Male Model of the Year" category. With all these exciting opportunities happening, one of O'Hearn's best attributes is the ability to stay "real." He's friendly and has the knack to communicate with everyone.

His lifestyle is very exciting--NOT. Mike's daily routine starts at 3:30 am and he is in the gym by 4:00, naps, has breakfast, and then it's off to the office for a few hours. He then does aerobics, followed by more business, more aerobics, dinner, some reading and then it's off to bed by 8:00. This type of steady discipline makes O'Hearn a tremendous role model and spokesperson for the bodybuilding/fitness industry.

O'Hearn trains from 4:00 am to 5:00 am with one of the top bodybuilding trainers in the world, Charles Glass. Glass has worked with bodybuilding superstars. Flex Wheeler, Paul Dillet, Chris Cormier, and retired basketball great Magic Johnson to name a few.

O'Hearn's workouts are brief, but extremely intense. He believes in lifting heavy and incorporates the three basic power lifting movements, deadlifts, squats, and bench pressing as his foundation. According to Mike, brief, high-intensity workouts produce the best results and prevent overtraining. To maintain his aerobic conditioning, O'Hearn does the Stairmaster 3 times per day (10 minutes each session) on level 14. For a change of pace he often substitutes the Stairmaster by playing basketball with friends or does sprint work.

Another important element in O'Hearn's life away from the gym is his position as a positive role model, which he takes quite seriously. He has been recognized by a number of people and organizations for his positive role model image and for motivating others to "reach for the stars".

O'Hearn recently received a letter from Edward Conners, CFO, Gold's Gym Enterprises, which stated, "As I told you back in '91 when you first moved to Venice... it was clear that you would make an impact...All along you have continued to be a role model for those striving to achieve results. You have been an inspiration to others and no doubt encouraged them to persist in the same path."

Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: tommywishbone on July 15, 2007, 08:46:37 PM
Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...I sure would like to believe so.  Doc says I'm 210 here with no tan relaxed.  It pales in comparison to what lies below the waist (yes legs)... What you think?

What, you can't read a scale yourself?
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: SS on July 15, 2007, 08:54:12 PM
What, you can't read a scale yourself?
hahaha! this made me LOL for some reason ;D
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Jerryme7 on July 15, 2007, 08:54:43 PM
Ok...what about this guy?  21 years old,  At 5'10", 225 lbs!
http://www.musclemania.com/news.htm

Seeing him on stage, the 2006 Musclemania World Junior Champion carries a powerful presence.  But when you see Bradly Castleberry hit the weights in the gym, you quickly understand how his developed his amazing physique.  In his new DVD, he lifts incredible poundages and with strict form.  At 5'10", 225 lbs., Bradly forces a 595 lbs. bench press and 275 lbs. arms curls, for reps! The 21 year old lifetime natural bodybuilder is testimony that you can create what he calls a "monstrous" physique without steroids.   Currently sponsor by Magnum Nutrition, Bradly is training heavy for the 2007 competition season which will include the Musclemania World Championships in November where he will move up into the Men's Open HW Class and take on some 
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2007, 08:55:28 PM
Ok...what about this guy?  21 years old,  At 5'10", 225 lbs!
http://www.musclemania.com/news.htm

Seeing him on stage, the 2006 Musclemania World Junior Champion carries a powerful presence.  But when you see Bradly Castleberry hit the weights in the gym, you quickly understand how his developed his amazing physique.  In his new DVD, he lifts incredible poundages and with strict form.  At 5'10", 225 lbs., Bradly forces a 595 lbs. bench press and 275 lbs. arms curls, for reps! The 21 year old lifetime natural bodybuilder is testimony that you can create what he calls a "monstrous" physique without steroids.   Currently sponsor by Magnum Nutrition, Bradly is training heavy for the 2007 competition season which will include the Musclemania World Championships in November where he will move up into the Men's Open HW Class and take on some 
dude I told you in the other thread, delete this before anyone else sees it, you're in for it big time ;D
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: SS on July 15, 2007, 08:56:03 PM
dude I told you in the other thread, delete this before anyone else sees it, you're in for it big time ;D
hahahaha!
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Herc on July 15, 2007, 09:03:21 PM
Castleberry looks good in the pic but he's not 225lbs in that pic.  Maybe 195 or 200lbs is my guess.  He would be massive at 225lbs ripped and he's not that big in that pic.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Jerryme7 on July 15, 2007, 09:11:01 PM
Ok...what abotu Mo Mendez?!! : )
http://www.fitnessatlantic.com/Mo-Mendez-dvd.htm (http://www.fitnessatlantic.com/Mo-Mendez-dvd.htm)

5'10", 220 lbs.He's been called the hottest natural bodybuilder on the scene and in this DVD you will understand why. Symmetrically perfect, the Connecticut muscle man had a camera crew following him around as he prepared the win the 2003 Atlantic Championships.

You won't a miss a thing in Mo's bodybuilding lifestyle. Watch as Morris prepares for the show and learn what he does to get ready and win as he takes you food shopping, to the supplement store, to the DJ for posing music, to the photographers studio for a shoot, backstage to apply tanning, his routine on stage and the overall pose down. See why Morris is a champion bodybuilder. Produced by FitnessAtlantic.com and Morris Mendez


Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Herc on July 15, 2007, 09:16:35 PM
dude you are so naive.  Do you really believe everything you read.  You should buy some celltech or muscletech or whatever Kovacs took to get that big and youl be over 300lbs of muscle.  Maybe buy some of Larry Scotts hypergrowth formula since its 100x stronger then steriods according to Larry Scott.  If you get to fat just get some xenadrine and youl loose 40lbs and then gain 20lbs of muscle.  You are really making yourself look incredibley naive by posting this stuff.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: GroinkTropin on July 15, 2007, 09:16:43 PM
I noticed that too, pob.

You ever been a hard drinker, Meat?  Really high alcohol consumption over time can actually cause that.

As far as your question, the answer is "Yes".  I'm living proof.

I drink quite often and I have a problem with gyno constantly, whether I'm taking anything or not. SUcks to be a drinker, wish I never touched the stuff  :(
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Jerryme7 on July 15, 2007, 09:17:59 PM
Herc...why dont you post a pic of you?

Of course I dont believe everything I read....
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Jerryme7 on July 15, 2007, 09:19:33 PM
I dont understand why the other post was deleted when I was trying to make a point...

I know you are referring to that video of him benching all that weight. i doubt that too but what i am trying to say is anything is possible...

When I was 14-15 I first wrestled at 160 pounds.  When I turned 16, I was wrestling at 160-170 pounds and I was dieting extremely during that time and not really eating but training and running... to me, I was a skinny twig during this timeframe. During this time when I was this weight, I was benching over 315 pounds. During this timeframe I also want to add that I had striations in my shoulders, veins and striations in my legs, and my abs were pretty ripped too

It was like this even when I graduated from high school...

I believe at that age (14-16) that that wasnt my true weight because I was holding myself back. How many kids hold themsevles back who are wrestlers because they are trying to make weight? 

When I focused my time to eating better and training harder, I made it over 210 pounds (Naturally)  way before I was 21...

I know you guys can laugh all you want but Im just trying to say that things are possible...

What I am trying to say is that anything is possible! During that time, testosterone level is at its highest and strength and muscle increase should be possible...
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Herc on July 15, 2007, 09:20:43 PM
Ive posted plenty in the pictures area all post one here.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Jerryme7 on July 15, 2007, 09:23:14 PM
Damn Herc...you look great!

How old are you?
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Herc on July 15, 2007, 09:24:04 PM
27
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on July 15, 2007, 09:27:50 PM
I drink quite often and I have a problem with gyno constantly, whether I'm taking anything or not. SUcks to be a drinker, wish I never touched the stuff  :(

I know how you feel, MM.  Alcohol will do it to your physique for sure.

How much/often are you drinking (Hope I'm not getting too personal.  Had lots of problems in that department myself)?
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2007, 09:31:05 PM
I know how you feel, MM.  Alcohol will do it to your physique for sure.

How much/often are you drinking (Hope I'm not getting too personal.  Had lots of problems in that department myself)?
yeah we've seen your myspace page......mr.drink away my problems ::)
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: affy on July 15, 2007, 09:34:35 PM
Ok...what about this guy?  21 years old,  At 5'10", 225 lbs!
http://www.musclemania.com/news.htm

Seeing him on stage, the 2006 Musclemania World Junior Champion carries a powerful presence.  But when you see Bradly Castleberry hit the weights in the gym, you quickly understand how his developed his amazing physique.  In his new DVD, he lifts incredible poundages and with strict form.  At 5'10", 225 lbs., Bradly forces a 595 lbs. bench press and 275 lbs. arms curls, for reps! The 21 year old lifetime natural bodybuilder is testimony that you can create what he calls a "monstrous" physique without steroids.   Currently sponsor by Magnum Nutrition, Bradly is training heavy for the 2007 competition season which will include the Musclemania World Championships in November where he will move up into the Men's Open HW Class and take on some 

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on July 15, 2007, 10:25:12 PM
yeah we've seen your myspace page......mr.drink away my problems ::)

Nah, never was really the reason for me drinking too much to be honest.  Nice to see you try to analyze things from myspace, though.  What's even funnier is that you'd take the time to read my blogs...obsession...
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: musclehedz on July 15, 2007, 10:37:51 PM
gyno  :-\

hypocrite
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: cswol on July 15, 2007, 10:47:32 PM
jerryb7................. .......mike o'hearn has used more drugs than you could keep track of.........he aint freaking natural.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: ParisAlexander on July 16, 2007, 12:18:11 AM
Ok...what about this guy?  21 years old,  At 5'10", 225 lbs!
http://www.musclemania.com/news.htm

Seeing him on stage, the 2006 Musclemania World Junior Champion carries a powerful presence.  But when you see Bradly Castleberry hit the weights in the gym, you quickly understand how his developed his amazing physique.  In his new DVD, he lifts incredible poundages and with strict form.  At 5'10", 225 lbs., Bradly forces a 595 lbs. bench press and 275 lbs. arms curls, for reps! The 21 year old lifetime natural bodybuilder is testimony that you can create what he calls a "monstrous" physique without steroids.   Currently sponsor by Magnum Nutrition, Bradly is training heavy for the 2007 competition season which will include the Musclemania World Championships in November where he will move up into the Men's Open HW Class and take on some 


lol.... he's got some mass, but watch it... many people think he be a fake (his lifts and all)
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 16, 2007, 01:06:34 AM
I went a little above 200 at 5'11" with just food and training however 200 lean on stage naturally is just not possible..without drugs during contest prep u just cannot hold on to muscle
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: kiwiol on July 16, 2007, 03:01:48 AM
I went a little above 200 at 5'11" with just food and training however 200 lean on stage naturally is just not possible..without drugs during contest prep u just cannot hold on to muscle

Sevastase, in the genetic scale, you get a 1 out of 10 and less for your face. So STFU while the real guys here are discussing muscle ;D

Meathead, it's definitely possible. Check out the clip below of my Tongan mate. He's about 5'10" or just under and weighs 130 Kg = 296 lbs

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gw8_N3GcK88 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=gw8_N3GcK88)

He's a lifetime natural and he's only 26. He will have abs showing at 220 easy, given he has a fair bit of flab around the midsection but not much everywhere else - he looks like a powerlifter which I suppose he is
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Ursus on July 16, 2007, 03:22:21 AM
i expect to be 6'3.5 and 235 on stage ripped
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: kiwiol on July 16, 2007, 03:24:04 AM
i expect to be 6'3.5 and 235 on stage ripped

You've got decent shape and the funniest faces of them all, lol! Are you going for the Mr Getbig?
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Pete Nice on July 16, 2007, 08:25:56 AM
I hear that Bradly Dingleberry is one of Derek Anthony's close friends ;)
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Hedgehog on July 16, 2007, 08:29:58 AM
Ok...what about this guy?  21 years old,  At 5'10", 225 lbs!
http://www.musclemania.com/news.htm

Seeing him on stage, the 2006 Musclemania World Junior Champion carries a powerful presence.  But when you see Bradly Castleberry hit the weights in the gym, you quickly understand how his developed his amazing physique.  In his new DVD, he lifts incredible poundages and with strict form.  At 5'10", 225 lbs., Bradly forces a 595 lbs. bench press and 275 lbs. arms curls, for reps! The 21 year old lifetime natural bodybuilder is testimony that you can create what he calls a "monstrous" physique without steroids.   Currently sponsor by Magnum Nutrition, Bradly is training heavy for the 2007 competition season which will include the Musclemania World Championships in November where he will move up into the Men's Open HW Class and take on some 

Dingleberry made a 405 lbs benchpress in competition earlier on this year.

595 lbs benchpress? Jerryme, if you're even considering that to be true, you're a dumbass.

-Hedge
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: The Squadfather on July 16, 2007, 08:33:11 AM
Dingleberry made a 405 lbs benchpress in competition earlier on this year.

595 lbs benchpress? Jerryme, if you're even considering that to be true, you're a dumbass.

-Hedge
exactly Zach but what do you expect from "jerry" he says he was 220 pounds at 5'10" DRUG FREE AT 19 YEARS OLD at less than 10 percent bodyfat. :o ::)
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 16, 2007, 08:42:10 AM
squad father...why are u so fat?....I can't even tell if u have any muscle under all that flab....at least post a video of some lifts to bring some respect to your handle... :-[
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: kiwiol on July 16, 2007, 08:44:23 AM
squad father...why are u so fat?....I can't even tell if u have any muscle under all that flab....at least post a video of some lifts to bring some respect to your handle... :-[

Hahahahaha why don't you post a pic of you doing your most muscular where it looks like you are competing for the Mr Puniverse, Anorexia division in a German concentration camp?

Luckily, it takes the focus off your face hahahahaha
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 16, 2007, 08:47:07 AM
Hahahahaha why don't you post a pic of you doing your most muscular where it looks like you are competing for the Mr Puniverse, Anorexia division in a German concentration camp?

Luckily, it takes the focus off your face hahahahaha
u are just boring....why so much hate from a homo?...just come out already
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: The Squadfather on July 16, 2007, 08:47:31 AM
Hahahahaha why don't you post a pic of you doing your most muscular where it looks like you are competing for the Mr Puniverse, Anorexia division in a German concentration camp?

Luckily, it takes the focus off your face hahahahaha
are you suggesting that "sevastase" nose looks like it has been punched 600 times by Mike Tyson, Kiwiol?
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: kiwiol on July 16, 2007, 08:52:21 AM
are you suggesting that "sevastase" nose looks like it has been punched 600 times by Mike Tyson, Kiwiol?


Hahahaha it's too ugly to be described by mere words, but I can tell you that 'he' has been bragging about having more balls slam against 'his' chin than McEnroe's tennis racquet has, during his whole lifetime.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: The Squadfather on July 16, 2007, 08:59:02 AM

Hahahaha it's too ugly to be described by mere words, but I can tell you that 'he' has been bragging about having more balls slam against 'his' chin than McEnroe's tennis racquet has, during his whole lifetime.
you better watch out "sevastase" claims to take 1200mg. of test and 600mg. of Deca a week and he benches 400, squats and deadlifts 700 and can serve a tennis ball 130MPH, aren't you terrified? ::)
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: kiwiol on July 16, 2007, 09:04:04 AM
you better watch out "sevastase" claims to take 1200mg. of test and 600mg. of Deca a week and he benches 400, squats and deadlifts 700 and can serve a tennis ball 130MPH, aren't you terrified? ::)

Hahahahaha the only thing Sevastase 'takes' is long, cylinderical objects up the tailpipe while playing the slobber blues on 'his' boyfriend's skinflute hahahaha
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: kyomu on July 16, 2007, 09:16:32 AM
Why BBers are so insecure that they lie saying that they are natural with gyno?
I am fed up with this.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: CT_Muscle on July 16, 2007, 09:19:06 AM
Ok...what about this guy?  21 years old,  At 5'10", 225 lbs!
http://www.musclemania.com/news.htm

Seeing him on stage, the 2006 Musclemania World Junior Champion carries a powerful presence.  But when you see Bradly Castleberry hit the weights in the gym, you quickly understand how his developed his amazing physique.  In his new DVD, he lifts incredible poundages and with strict form.  At 5'10", 225 lbs., Bradly forces a 595 lbs. bench press and 275 lbs. arms curls, for reps! The 21 year old lifetime natural bodybuilder is testimony that you can create what he calls a "monstrous" physique without steroids.   Currently sponsor by Magnum Nutrition, Bradly is training heavy for the 2007 competition season which will include the Musclemania World Championships in November where he will move up into the Men's Open HW Class and take on some 

He curls more then he weighs by 50 lbs LOL where is the video of this.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Special Ed on July 16, 2007, 09:19:16 AM

I do know lots of natural guys who train superhard and eat properly and are fitness model-types with great-looking 160lb physiques at 5'10.

The bottom line is that so many guys take gear when they are teens or soon after they start lifting that 10 years down the road, when they are 6' 220, and off the sauce, they claim that they could easily have gotten to the same point without gear. It's a copout. Many of the muscular gains will never go away if you continue to train. I'm a firm believer that steroids raise your body's base muscular weight. If you don't train heavy (a la Tom Prince or Kevin) you will shrink up, but even still, these guys are 5'10 200 lbs solid. Show me someone who's never done gear walking around looking like that and I'll show you a Catholic priest who doesn't subscribe to Blue Boy.

I see natural guys training hard all the time at my gym. The difference between them and the juicers is that the natural guys don't grow! They hit 30 years old and their T-levels start decreasing and they've hit their strength wall and that's it. End of story.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: meatusheadus on July 16, 2007, 12:01:40 PM
Your right nipple has gyno   ::)

Pro-hormones are not considered natural  :-\

Feels like I’m back in high school basketball with the upper classmen shouting “Juicer” from the stands because my legs were so big (bigger than they are now probably), but understandable looking at the picture. 

The whole over-the-counter pro-hormone thing (for better or worse) slipped right by me.  NO HORMONES - lifetime.  But I’ve been repeating that for 20 odd years so I understand.   I should rectify the “Lifetime Drug Free” quote by saying, “performance enhancing drugs.”  I’m certainly no saint, but no hormones.  I have and do use ephedra/creatine/ and of course Protein supplements.   Everything else is just good old macronutrients.  Regarding the high level of alcohol consumption; yes, when I let loose, I have a good time.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Andre Nickatina on July 16, 2007, 12:11:53 PM
Hahahahaha the only thing Sevastase 'takes' is long, cylinderical objects up the tailpipe while playing the slobber blues on 'his' boyfriend's skinflute hahahaha

The difference between sevestese and a freezer is the freezer doesnt fart when you pull the meat out.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Andre Nickatina on July 16, 2007, 12:21:00 PM
They call sevestaese the package because he only comes in male boxes.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Playboy on July 16, 2007, 12:21:46 PM
Sorry....200lbs at 6' tall is nothing to brag about. There are guys that are 5'5 -5'7" tall that weight 225-240lbs with body fat in the single digits.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on July 16, 2007, 12:36:43 PM
ON drugs, Playboy...

I'm not a rule expert but isn't Ephedra a banned substance?  If we are following "Drug Free" rules I would think this might be a problem.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Playboy on July 16, 2007, 12:38:49 PM
ON drugs, Playboy...

I'm not a rule expert but isn't Ephedra a banned substance?  If we are following "Drug Free" rules I would think this might be a problem.
Don't forget, you don't have to take AAS. HGH is not considered at steroid but it will do the job and you can't test for HGH.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: danielson on July 16, 2007, 01:26:58 PM
ON drugs, Playboy...

I'm not a rule expert but isn't Ephedra a banned substance?  If we are following "Drug Free" rules I would think this might be a problem.

Last year Ephedra was allowed to my knowledge. Looks like we need a "banned substance list" for this years event.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: MCWAY on July 16, 2007, 01:42:49 PM
Why BBers are so insecure that they lie saying that they are natural with gyno?
I am fed up with this.

Gyno isn't necessarily an indicator of steroid use. Some males get gyno, when they're going through puberty in their teenage years.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: pobrecito on July 16, 2007, 01:46:09 PM
Feels like I’m back in high school basketball with the upper classmen shouting “Juicer” from the stands because my legs were so big (bigger than they are now probably), but understandable looking at the picture. 

The whole over-the-counter pro-hormone thing (for better or worse) slipped right by me.  NO HORMONES - lifetime.  But I’ve been repeating that for 20 odd years so I understand.   I should rectify the “Lifetime Drug Free” quote by saying, “performance enhancing drugs.”  I’m certainly no saint, but no hormones.  I have and do use ephedra/creatine/ and of course Protein supplements.   Everything else is just good old macronutrients.  Regarding the high level of alcohol consumption; yes, when I let loose, I have a good time.


I was under the assumption you were young - in your early 20s. If you are in your early to late 30s, I could easily see your physique as natural consider that is the time naturals peak. Your legs must be pretty big though if you weight 200 becuase your upper body doesn't look like it goes with a 200lb body.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on July 16, 2007, 07:24:00 PM
Ephedra is an illegal substance.  Period.  He admitted to using it, which, in my mind, makes him ineligible for the contest.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: GroinkTropin on July 16, 2007, 08:14:16 PM
I know how you feel, MM.  Alcohol will do it to your physique for sure.

How much/often are you drinking (Hope I'm not getting too personal.  Had lots of problems in that department myself)?

I get a pint of bacardi white and a 40 of mickeys 3 or 4 times a week lately, I tend to go through periods where I drink nothing, then I am drinking all the time etc. Not sure why really, depression I guess.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: danielson on July 16, 2007, 09:03:42 PM
Ephedra is an illegal substance.  Period.  He admitted to using it, which, in my mind, makes him ineligible for the contest.

No, it's perfectly legal in the United States. It is in cough medicine.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Andre Nickatina on July 16, 2007, 09:09:43 PM
Ephedra is an illegal substance.  Period.  He admitted to using it, which, in my mind, makes him ineligible for the contest.

Monster raphael palmeiro period. quit being weak, ephedra is legal.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Al-Gebra on July 16, 2007, 09:14:16 PM
Ephedra is an illegal substance.  Period.  He admitted to using it, which, in my mind, makes him ineligible for the contest.

 . . . making a fuss about ephedra  ???
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: danielson on July 16, 2007, 09:23:06 PM
How about Hoodia, creatine, protein powders, lean red meat, and skim milk? Should people be ineligible for the contest if they use those? Funny thing is, I was actually thinking he was joking about banning ephedra, had no idea this guy actually thinks if you take Tylenol Cold and Flu you should not be able to compete ;D
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Al-Gebra on July 16, 2007, 09:25:17 PM

maybe the crusher smells impending defeat and it's making him nervous?
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: chaos on July 16, 2007, 09:25:26 PM
How about Hoodia, creatine, protein powders, lean red meat, and skim milk? Should people be ineligible for the contest if they use those? Funny thing is, I was actually thinking he was joking about banning ephedra, had no idea this guy actually thinks if you take Tylenol Cold and Flu you should not be able to compete ;D
you need to read more of his posts, he's a little "special" if you know what I mean. :P
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Joey Tito on July 16, 2007, 09:25:55 PM
I have a prediction:

The Great Kiwiol will win the Mr Getbig II, hands down.  Not a question.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: danielson on July 16, 2007, 09:27:37 PM
you need to read more of his posts, he's a little "special" if you know what I mean. :P

He seems normal to me. I hope he was kidding about banning the use of ephedra from the contest. You can buy it at any gas station I go to.  ::)
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: chaos on July 16, 2007, 09:29:50 PM
He seems normal to me. I hope he was kidding about banning the use of ephedra from the contest. You can buy it at any gas station I go to.  ::)
:-\ normal?

he's not kidding about ephedra, which is funny considering the guy is a raging alcoholic, and who knows what else. He stays so lean because he doesn't eat, just drinks himself to sleep :'(
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: danielson on July 16, 2007, 09:33:29 PM
:-\ normal?

he's not kidding about ephedra, which is funny considering the guy is a raging alcoholic, and who knows what else. He stays so lean because he doesn't eat, just drinks himself to sleep :'(

Hahahah, well, I am sure enough people pick on him about that, no need for me to comment. I am sure he was kidding. Thats like saying that if you drink Red Bull, you are ineligible. If he is serious, than I agree, he is a little "off".
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: chaos on July 16, 2007, 09:41:27 PM
Ephedra is an illegal substance.  Period.  He admitted to using it, which, in my mind, makes him ineligible for the contest.
see this post Danielson? do you see a ;D or a  ::) or even a  ;), nope nothing to indicate he wasn't serious. He's this years Adonis.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: danielson on July 16, 2007, 09:45:52 PM
see this post Danielson? do you see a ;D or a  ::) or even a  ;), nope nothing to indicate he wasn't serious. He's this years Adonis.

Hahahah, should be fun then ;D
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: chaos on July 16, 2007, 09:56:08 PM
Hahahah, should be fun then ;D
if you consider the fact that this guy is going to stalk your every post after meatusheadus beats him for six months , I guess it will be fun :D
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Joey Tito on July 16, 2007, 10:01:00 PM
if you consider the fact that this guy is going to stalk your every post after meatusheadus beats him for six months , I guess it will be fun :D

Meathead will not win.  Kiwiol will prevail. 8)  But meathead is more than welcome to take second place.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Al-Gebra on July 16, 2007, 10:02:09 PM


danielson, seems like there's an opportunity for some book-making here.  What odds are you offering on meatusheadus to win, place, etc?
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Honour on July 17, 2007, 02:43:17 AM
I am pretty sure that Mindspin said that Ephedra is fine.....just wish you could get in in Australia  :(.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: MikeThaMachine on July 17, 2007, 03:10:05 AM
Ephedra is an illegal substance.  Period.  He admitted to using it, which, in my mind, makes him ineligible for the contest.


Really I live in the U.S. and can walk two stores down from my gym and buy it at Rite Aid. ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: kiwiol on July 17, 2007, 03:48:14 AM
Meathead will not win.  Kiwiol will prevail. 8)  But meathead is more than welcome to take second place.

Nah. I'm thinking of seriously juicing so I can compete in a Pro Show - seems like a cool lifestyle and I don't have to do any G4anything since I'm retired ;D

And Bluto, No, you can't have my soiled trunks. Same goes for you, Earl1972 :-X
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: danielson on July 17, 2007, 03:56:58 AM

danielson, seems like there's an opportunity for some book-making here.  What odds are you offering on meatusheadus to win, place, etc?

hmmm, never really thought of odds. I will take all bets that after he wins certain people on here will cry about it for several months though. ;D
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Priceless on July 17, 2007, 04:40:27 AM
Claiming to be lifetime drug free while sporting gyno that would send a 12yr old girl running for a training bra...

PRICELESS
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: Priceless on July 17, 2007, 04:43:26 AM
Very possible!!!

I was 220 pounds at the hieght of 5'10" and a half naturally at age 19-20 and I was below 10% bodyfat

The lowest I ever dropped weight was 190-195 but I was skinny as a twig and ran a lot...this was in 97 when I jioned the military

WHat bodyfat percentage is your goal at the weight of 200 and above?

 

Key word here: WAS

The stench of bullshit runs thick in the air....

A pic proving your BS claim would be....

PRICELESS
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: meatusheadus on July 17, 2007, 08:16:15 PM
I was under the assumption you were young - in your early 20s. If you are in your early to late 30s, I could easily see your physique as natural consider that is the time naturals peak. Your legs must be pretty big though if you weight 200 becuase your upper body doesn't look like it goes with a 200lb body.

In high school and college I had close to 29 inch thighs.  Really freaky.  Threw the computers of the charts at the testing facility doing extensions, doc swore the machine was broken. Legs are smaller now (slightly) but still impressive.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: tweeter on July 17, 2007, 08:24:20 PM
I don't think that is gyno; everyone is too quick to scream gyno. I am pretty sure when the contest comes it will be gone.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on July 18, 2007, 12:19:26 AM

Really I live in the U.S. and can walk two stores down from my gym and buy it at Rite Aid. ::) ::) ::)

PSEUDO-EPHEDRINE or EPHEDRINE HYDROCHLORIDE...not Ephedine Alkaloid.  It's illlegal to possess or distribute everywhere but UT and in 5 mg. dosages.

Look it up for yourself.

Just stating that if things that are banned by the FDA are to be included, ephedrine alkaloid has to be included.  How could it not?

BTW, Chaos, I eat over 4,000 calories a day.  I stay lean because I do at least 45 minutes of cardio every single day, all year, and don't eat friend foods, pizza, burgers, pasta, white rice, white bread, sugary drinks, pasties, etc.  Get your facts straight. 

I think the Gin Blossoms wrote "Hey Jealousy" in your honor.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: MikeThaMachine on July 18, 2007, 02:22:52 AM
PSEUDO-EPHEDRINE or EPHEDRINE HYDROCHLORIDE...not Ephedine Alkaloid.  It's illlegal to possess or distribute everywhere but UT and in 5 mg. dosages.

Look it up for yourself.

Just stating that if things that are banned by the FDA are to be included, ephedrine alkaloid has to be included.  How could it not?

BTW, Chaos, I eat over 4,000 calories a day.  I stay lean because I do at least 45 minutes of cardio every single day, all year, and don't eat friend foods, pizza, burgers, pasta, white rice, white bread, sugary drinks, pasties, etc.  Get your facts straight. 

I think the Gin Blossoms wrote "Hey Jealousy" in your honor.


Point is though do you really think something like that will make the difference in who wins and who doesn't??? What's next set a price limit for supplements???
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: windsor88 on July 18, 2007, 03:14:55 AM


BTW, Chaos, I eat over 4,000 calories a day.  I stay lean because I do at least 45 minutes of cardio every single day, all year, and don't eat friend foods, pizza, burgers, pasta, white rice, white bread, sugary drinks, pasties, etc. 


How long have you been on this routine? 
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: danielson on July 18, 2007, 05:01:44 AM
PSEUDO-EPHEDRINE or EPHEDRINE HYDROCHLORIDE...not Ephedine Alkaloid.  It's illlegal to possess or distribute everywhere but UT and in 5 mg. dosages.

Look it up for yourself.

Just stating that if things that are banned by the FDA are to be included, ephedrine alkaloid has to be included.  How could it not?

BTW, Chaos, I eat over 4,000 calories a day.  I stay lean because I do at least 45 minutes of cardio every single day, all year, and don't eat friend foods, pizza, burgers, pasta, white rice, white bread, sugary drinks, pasties, etc.  Get your facts straight. 

I think the Gin Blossoms wrote "Hey Jealousy" in your honor.

I can buy 12.5 mg. Ephedra at the gas station near my house. Ephedra is not banned at all, at some pharmacies you can only buy so much of it and it is behind the counter cuz people are using it to make crystal meth. But banned? Thats nuts dude, it's in many cold medicines.
Title: Re: Lifetime drug free, 6', 200 pds or above...Is it possible?
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on July 18, 2007, 06:43:39 AM
I can buy 12.5 mg. Ephedra at the gas station near my house. Ephedra is not banned at all, at some pharmacies you can only buy so much of it and it is behind the counter cuz people are using it to make crystal meth. But banned? Thats nuts dude, it's in many cold medicines.

You buy ephedrine HYDROCHLORIDE at gas stations...Alkaloid is a BANNED SUBSTANCE.  They do NOT work the same way.

Windsor, several years.