Uh oh...time for another nut-hugging speech from Body88 over his beloved Pats! ;D
It's "Patriots". Not "Pats".
It's "Patriots". Not "Pats".
Go ahead and keep talking. Act like you know what you're talking about.
It's "Patriots". Not "Pats".
You're wrong. I prefer "overrated douche bags". Has the same ring if you ask me!!!!! :D
Personally, I'd put that Pats 4th but winning a Super Bowl 3 years ago works wonders for biased rankings!
I do not agree. The patriots allowed the fewest passing tds in the nfl last year. This was accomplished with a secondary riddled with injuries most of the season. Harrison was out, Gay was hurt, Hobbs was playing with a broken wrist etc etc. Samuel had a great year, but he was not shutting teams down. The reason they allowed the fewest passing tds was because of the outstanding defensive line. The pats run a 3/4.I hate the Patriots simply because they beat my Eagles in the SB.. ;D other then that they are the team of the decade so far.
Seymour is a perennial pro bowler, Warren had pro bowl numbers last year and Wilfork is right there. Warren and Wilfork are 26, Seymour is 28. They are a very talented unit.
I don't understand why you hate the patriots so much. They go all the way to the AFC championship game last year with no name wr's and they all the sudden are no good just because they did not win a fourth superbowl? Whatever floats your boat.
I do not agree. The patriots allowed the fewest passing tds in the nfl last year. This was accomplished with a secondary riddled with injuries most of the season. Harrison was out, Gay was hurt, Hobbs was playing with a broken wrist etc etc. Samuel had a great year, but he was not shutting teams down. The reason they allowed the fewest passing tds was because of the outstanding defensive line. The pats run a 3/4.
Seymour is a perennial pro bowler, Warren had pro bowl numbers last year and Wilfork is right there. Warren and Wilfork are 26, Seymour is 28. They are a very talented unit.
I don't understand why you hate the patriots so much. They go all the way to the AFC championship game last year with no name wr's and they all the sudden are no good just because they did not win a fourth superbowl? Whatever floats your boat.
I have no problem with that. I am talking about when people let there disdain for a team cloud there analysis of a game or players. Not to say people do not have a right to there opinion. But some of the criticism you hear about the pats is laughable. Its almost like they won those three sb's in 4 years so now going to the afc championship game and being one first down away from another sb appearance is no good and they are done. They had a better season then 99 percent of the nfl last year, I would not call that done. I am not talking about any posters on here, just melting down in general haha.Damm that being said I must confess I have a irrational hatered of the redskins...To the point I tell people I have two favorite teams the Eagles and whoever is playing the redskins... ;D
You're wrong. I prefer "overrated douche bags". Has the same ring if you ask me!!!!! :D
Personally, I'd put that Pats 4th but winning a Super Bowl 3 years ago works wonders for biased rankings!
Body88,
Berzerkfury has some bent up negativity that I think he needs to address. He has been hell bent on calling out "The ultimate fighter poseurs" and people who wear Tapout clothing as a fashion statement. Apparently, he appears to be the offcial GETBIG spokeman on MMA fighting and hates anyone else's point of view on pretty much everything else, including your beloved Pats. Anyone know who his NFL team is?
I like Berzerk, though. He's a funny cat.
Biased rankings..yeah do u even watch football. ::) I think the Jags might have a better line but the PATS are my team so good for them. Have fun with Manning and his 8 million INT's. I think the Manning experiment will be over this fall. As for the SD game. Giimme a break, we won dude. Just like the AFC championship game. Two key drops and a few bad calls and we lost. Not to mention the 21-3 lead we blew. The Pats lost, easy to admit, and I hate the Dolts. It will be a fun season with you.
GO PATSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSS
Biased rankings..yeah do u even watch football. ::) I think the Jags might have a better line but the PATS are my team so good for them. Have fun with Manning and his 8 million INT's. I think the Manning experiment will be over this fall. As for the SD game. Giimme a break, we won dude. Just like the AFC championship game. Two key drops and a few bad calls and we lost. Not to mention the 21-3 lead we blew. The Pats lost, easy to admit, and I hate the Dolts. It will be a fun season with you.
GO PATSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSS
hahaha, the hypocrisy in your post is hilarious. Typical of a Pats fan that doesn't know anything about the team outside of the fact that they win a lot. You claim they beat SD despite the fact that they dominated the Pats on both sides of the ball for most of that game. That's fine. Then you turn around and tell me the Pats won the Colts game despite the fact they lost, and after falling apart? Yup, you're an idiot. Here's a little newsflash, they had one of the biggest meltdown/chokejobs in league title game history. Go on again, the Chargers and Colts game were different how?
Anyways, the Colts window will be open for a few more years. Maybe not this year after all the losses, which is fine. They'll rebuild. Not like the Pats window isn't closing themselves with the exorbitant amount of aging players littering that roster. :D
Typical Mass. argument. "The Jags line is better but the Pats are my team so they're automatically better." Honestly, do you watch football or are you one of the typical New Englander fans who didn't watch any games until they won 2 SB's? :o
In all honesty, why would I follow the Pats at all? They aren't my team. I also don't know much about the Colts outside of the losses they've taken this off-season. Good post but I wasn't attacking you. I was attacking the typical hypocritical fanboy that bases his entire argument on the fact that, "They're my favorite team so they're the best despite the fact they can go 0-256 over the next 10 years". It's a retarded argument and proves that the person saying it is one of those guys who only follows the team when they're winning consistently. I don't even like the Colts. I just like the fact they're one of the few teams who legitimately have a chance to beat the Pats every time they play. I also think there are 4-5 teams in the AFC now that have that possibility as well.
Since Body already hit u with the facts I'll just mention my bit. We lost the Colts game dumbass...i never said we didn't, same as we beat the Bolts. They picked it off and then fumbled it. We goty it back and TB throw a TD and it was game over. Having dominated us all game it was a pretty close score wouldn't u say. Also aren't u in college or something. How much football have u watched. My team stunk for about a million years so now I'm gonna enjoy my time. As far as the Jags, I think they might be as talented as what we have in NE. But the NE line is younger so, I guess u have to go with them. Besides nobody said that the Giants line was any good so don't worry about it.
Biased rankings..yeah do u even watch football. ::) I think the Jags might have a better line but the PATS are my team so good for them. Have fun with Manning and his 8 million INT's. I think the Manning experiment will be over this fall. As for the SD game. Giimme a break, we won dude. Just like the AFC championship game. Two key drops and a few bad calls and we lost. Not to mention the 21-3 lead we blew. The Pats lost, easy to admit, and I hate the Dolts. It will be a fun season with you.
GO PATSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSS
I'll let Body be the diplomate..he's very good at it...No dumbass i didn't imply anything, i might have missed a comma. I met that while we should have won the AFC Championship game..we didn't, so no amount of whining on my part will bring a victory. Just like SD, they went home we went to Indy. Ok answer me this football guy. Saying that we'll have Moss and Stallworth on the wings with Welker in the slot, who do u double cover. Oh yeah, then u have to worry about big Ben Watson, off the line. Or wait, don't forget about Body's guy Mauroney. Pick your poison. They went to the AFC champioship game with average receivers. Gaffeney will make the team. The Dolts took a step back, it happens. SD will be tough. Denver will be tough as well. Either way we'll be very explosive.
I'm giddy....have fun with Archie's other son...... ::)
Why should you have won the AFC title game? Hate to break it to you, but the Pats were completely outplayed for almost 3/4 of that game. Most fanboys get "giddy," though. You seem to be forgetting the Ravens, who are more than capable of outplaying the Pats and who I suspect will be incredibly dangerous this season, especially with the revamped RB corps. The Pats are good, but to say they're leaps and bounds ahead of any of the other top 5 AFC teams is laughable. Not to mention the Bengals are probably going to play much better as well this year. Same with the Jets. Thomas Jones will shred that defense. The guy's a beast. Can't wait to see the Pats stumble into playoffs! :D
Can't wait to see Moss barely live up to expectations. That guy's best days are well behind him. Just like TO.
If LT goes down, Charges are f'ed. If Brady goes down, the Pats are f'ed. What's your point? Or do I need to remind you that LT is probably the most durable player in the NFL? Why do you keep focusing on the Colts? Last I checked, there are 4-5 teams capable of beating the Pats on any given Sunday. Not just the Colts. Vilma had an off year, he'll be back. The Jets, despite all those problems last year, still played the Pats close as hell, even besting them once. Going to be a good year. All hail the future AFC champions, and it's not the Pats!
By the way, comparing Marvin Harrisson to Moss is a terrible argument. I thought you had more intelligence than that. Comparing a receiver that consistently puts up 1000+ yard seasons every year to a guy that's done nothing in the last 3 while visibly slowing down is just sad.
Anyways, I wish one of you clowns would argue college football like this. I'm really tired of talking about the 4th best team in the AFC.
New system for the chargers? Wasn't Turner the guy who installed the current Chargers offense anyway? By the way, they had no receivers last year and had no problem going 14-2. Why would it be any different this year? It's their AFC championship to lose.
I'm not trying to stir it. I'm over that. I have no desire to get in a 12 page argument with you anymore over the Pats. I'd rather talk about college football or something worthwhile. It's the same old thing, Pats will win the division, lose in the playoffs to one of the teams that are better than them (probably Ravens) and life will be grand. I'll have to check back in January! ;D
The Ravens will have a better defense and possibly better special teams than the Pats. Overall? Shit.....I hate to say it but I'd trade my coach for Belichik anyday of the week. Brian Billick has made some very curious decisions during his coaching regime pertaining to quarterbacks and game management. Offensively, at least on paper, I think the Pats are better at the offensive line and quarterback positions.(which by the way, are the most important units on the offense, in my mind).
The Ravens O-line will be average at best because of the lack of depth behind the starters. Running backs? I love Maroney's ability but he has to learn to avoid imjuries by revamping his running style. We'll see if he can hold up for a full season. The jury is out on Mcgahee. He's tough son of bitch but he's had attitude issues. From what I read and seen so far, he's happier than a pig in shit to be in B-more with fellow hurricanes Ray Lewis and Ed Reed. But I give the edge to the Pats on offense because of Tom Brady and the O-line.
The Pats have assembled some serious talent at wide receiver via free agency and trades. Moss, Stallworth and Welker should really spread opposing defenses with the vertical passing game. The Ravens, on the other hand, have quietly turned a once weak unit on offense into a strength in a short period of time. Mason is still a valuable possession receiver who can get still get clutch third down conversions when you need them. Todd Heap will again establish himself among the league's best TE's. Mark Clayton will have a huge year statistically for the Ravens with his emergence as the team's number one receiver. His upside is tremendous with his great hands and route running. Demetrius Williams will also have a breakout year this year as the third wideout in one back offensive sets because of his elusiveness and deep speed.
Defenseively? No way the Pats have a better year statistically than the Ravens. The Pats front seven I think, are better talent-wise than the Ravens, especially at D-line. But the Pat's secondary no way compares to the Ravens. No way no how, especially without Asante Samuel. I feel the Pats secondary last year was shielded from a lot of weaknesses because of the strength of their D-line.
No Asante, an aging, injury prone Harrison, and a rookie who will be exposed by more experienced wide outs and quarterbacks.
Sorry Body, but offense is where your bread is buttered this year, not the defense. You may disagree but you won't find many people, including in the New England area, who think the Pats will be better than the Ravens on defense.
Should be an interesting year, nonetheless. We'll see how it plays out.
Why should you have won the AFC title game? Hate to break it to you, but the Pats were completely outplayed for almost 3/4 of that game. Most fanboys get "giddy," though. You seem to be forgetting the Ravens, who are more than capable of outplaying the Pats and who I suspect will be incredibly dangerous this season, especially with the revamped RB corps. The Pats are good, but to say they're leaps and bounds ahead of any of the other top 5 AFC teams is laughable. Not to mention the Bengals are probably going to play much better as well this year. Same with the Jets. Thomas Jones will shred that defense. The guy's a beast. Can't wait to see the Pats stumble into playoffs! :D
Can't wait to see Moss barely live up to expectations. That guy's best days are well behind him. Just like TO.
Is Asante in camp or no? Is he curently working with the first team defense? Honestly, I have no idea and you would know better than I would, Body.
If he's not, then the secondary will take a hit this season. He needs to sign the 1 year tender with an agreement in place that the pats won't tag him again next offseason. He may be working out and staying in shape but he's not practicing with the team. It will hurt his ability to contribute on a high level this season by missing all that time.
Body, I can't wait until we play. I give my team a solid shot to win because it's a home game. We'll see!