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Title: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: jason armstrong on July 29, 2007, 12:04:14 PM
proof why bb'ing sucks political wise.

Peter and his wife get their pic taken with Joe Weider. putnam gets on FLEX cover.  Don't forget his met-rx contract either!

He should not have won.

Don't care how hard he prayed not EVEN God would award him the class.

look for putnam to win the NAC or Nationals this year and get a pro card no matter what shape he is in..
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: pumpher on July 29, 2007, 12:11:34 PM
This thread is useless without pics! (comparison pics)
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: 240 is Back on July 29, 2007, 12:15:49 PM
there are two ways to look at it.

1) The best athlete on the stage should win the weight class, every time.  Period.  This means the best athletes will make it to the professional ranks, and the IFBB shows will be the best possible shows.

2) The athlete who is most marketable - meaning, short term profits for supplement companies with a consumer-friendly big smile to sell - should win the show.  This means the supplement industry - which is absolutely the lifeblood of the bodybuilding industry - will be the strongest (sell the most product to most people) and will grow the most - which will grow the sport the most.

It's a tough call.   Look at Chris Cook.  Many thought he received a gift when he beat wilmore and haley (two guys who eventually became better pros that chris was).  Of course, his smile as the new nationals champ on the cover may have sold more issues than the grille of a less marketable (albeit better physiqued) bodybuilder.  In this case, the sales won out, but the sport lost out, as someone not destined to be a pro became a pro, then washed out.  

I think they keep a safe balance there - they award the best guys most of the time, but they do need a fresh mainstream smile every 12-18 months, and you see the guy a mile away and know that if he comes in decent shape, he's 1) a pro and 2) gonna be on a cover shortly.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: thisiskeith12 on July 29, 2007, 12:18:30 PM
there are two ways to look at it.

1) The best athlete on the stage should win the weight class, every time.  Period.  This means the best athletes will make it to the professional ranks, and the IFBB shows will be the best possible shows.

2) The athlete who is most marketable - meaning, short term profits for supplement companies with a consumer-friendly big smile to sell - should win the show.  This means the supplement industry - which is absolutely the lifeblood of the bodybuilding industry - will be the strongest (sell the most product to most people) and will grow the most - which will grow the sport the most.

It's a tough call.   Look at Chris Cook.  Many thought he received a gift when he beat wilmore and haley (two guys who eventually became better pros that chris was).  Of course, his smile as the new nationals champ on the cover may have sold more issues than the grille of a less marketable (albeit better physiqued) bodybuilder.  In this case, the sales won out, but the sport lost out, as someone not destined to be a pro became a pro, then washed out. 

I think they keep a safe balance there - they award the best guys most of the time, but they do need a fresh mainstream smile every 12-18 months, and you see the guy a mile away and know that if he comes in decent shape, he's 1) a pro and 2) gonna be on a cover shortly.

Yes, but Putnam? He's not carrying that much of a marketable look. But his wife is!!
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: tweeter on July 29, 2007, 12:20:12 PM
Something looks strange about this guy's hair
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: BayGBM on July 29, 2007, 12:20:37 PM
This thread is useless without pics! (comparison pics)

Ditto. A useless thread.  :(
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: tweeter on July 29, 2007, 12:21:49 PM
Putnam and Auguste
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: tweeter on July 29, 2007, 12:26:26 PM
Putnam and Jose Raymond
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: mesmorph78 on July 29, 2007, 12:28:56 PM
fcuk marketable...
the best athlete on stage should win..
how does blonde hair and blue eyes make u a better bber?

marketable is also a relative term..
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: 240 is Back on July 29, 2007, 12:29:06 PM
Yes, but Putnam? He's not carrying that much of a marketable look. But his wife is!!

Blonde hair and a big smile?  That's pure gold in terms of moving product.

To illustrrate my point -

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=161101.0;attach=184468;image)

Putnam vs. Auguste
Auguste will probably eventually get his pro card - and from looking at the pictures, he has a better waist and legs, way stronger muscle belly shape, and will be a much more dangerous IFBB pro.  In 3 years when they're both pros, Auguste will probably place ahead of Putnam most of the time.  nothing against peter at all - but genetics are genetics and while he did well, Auguste did very well.

Now as far as mag covers - you put both men on the cover of FLEX mag, side by side, in the local WalMart in suburban america - and I'd bet the rent check that Putnam's cover is going to outsell Auguste's cover.  This is due to your buying audience's preferences and familirity and comfort and knowns - nothing about skin color at all - it's just buying behavior on a macro sale.  Same way Denzel would outsell a Pauly Shore cover.  The majority of your suburban readers (the largest group) would prefer the guy they'd prefer to look like.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: 240 is Back on July 29, 2007, 12:32:18 PM
fcuk marketable...
the best athlete on stage should win..
how does blonde hair and blue eyes make u a better bber?

marketable is also a relative term..


blonde hair/blue eyes DO NOT make the better bodybuilder.  But they do make for more magazine and supplement sales.  And the truth is, that is the reason professional bodybuilding exists - to sell products.  Not to aspire for physical perfection.  Just to sell mags and powders.  And the face of a good-looking man will sell more than an average man (nothing against auguste or anyone else).

Denzel would outsell Pauly Shore.  Just like Putnam will outsell Auguste.  people buy what they'd like to look like.  and since MORE of your buying audience will prefer the blonde/blue look, the decision makers at companies will choose accordingly.

Luckily meso - they only give away one gift win every 1-2 years, IMO.  most of the time, the best man does win in NPC nationals and USAs.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on July 29, 2007, 12:33:23 PM
Putnam has tiny legs.....
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: thisiskeith12 on July 29, 2007, 12:35:12 PM
blonde hair/blue eyes DO NOT make the better bodybuilder.  But they do make for more magazine and supplement sales.  And the truth is, that is the reason professional bodybuilding exists - to sell products.  Not to aspire for physical perfection.  Just to sell mags and powders.  And the face of a good-looking man will sell more than an average man (nothing against auguste or anyone else).

Denzel would outsell Pauly Shore.  Just like Putnam will outsell Auguste.  people buy what they'd like to look like.  and since MORE of your buying audience will prefer the blonde/blue look, the decision makers at companies will choose accordingly.

Luckily meso - they only give away one gift win every 1-2 years, IMO.  most of the time, the best man does win in NPC nationals and USAs.

Am I the only one that thinks Putnam always looks cross-eyed?

I think Auguste would be more marketable, he's got a more clean cut look than Putnam
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: corinth on July 29, 2007, 12:36:06 PM
You couldn't win some local shows with a back this weak.

Al Auguste got screwed plain and simple.

Everyone knew Putnam was going to win the minute he got that FLEX cover.

It's a fcking joke the way some of these shows are judged.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: tweeter on July 29, 2007, 12:37:14 PM
Am I the only one that thinks Putnam always looks cross-eyed?

I think Auguste would be more marketable, he's got a more clean cut look than Putnam
He lost an eye as a kid.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: 240 is Back on July 29, 2007, 12:38:07 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=161101.0;attach=184471;image)

How will that back do on the IFBB pro stage against the likes of Vic Martinez, Cutler, and others?
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: tweeter on July 29, 2007, 12:39:38 PM
Putnam has tiny legs.....
His legs are one of his best bodyparts
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: b.c. on July 29, 2007, 12:40:22 PM
Bodybuilding is just not marketable plain and simple.  The only person who was able to parlay bodybuilding into greatness was Arnold.  Marketing is just an excuse for the better guy losing.  Bodybuilding will always be an underground following.  Normal people just dont give a crap how much protein and how to increase your bench press in 8 weeks type info.  Glad your making money though 240...
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on July 29, 2007, 12:40:58 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=161101.0;attach=184471;image)

How will that back do on the IFBB pro stage against the likes of Vic Martinez, Cutler, and others?

They will give him a ribbon that says "Everybody Is A Winner Today" eventhough he won't place anywhere but last...
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: tweeter on July 29, 2007, 12:41:43 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=161101.0;attach=184471;image)

How will that back do on the IFBB pro stage against the likes of Vic Martinez, Cutler, and others?
Obviously not very good. I know he focused on bring up his back this offseason, but he seems to just suffer in the genetics department when it comes to his back.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on July 29, 2007, 12:42:23 PM
His legs are one of his best bodyparts

Can't wait to see him show those toothpics off on an IFBB stage....
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: tweeter on July 29, 2007, 12:46:49 PM
Here is a better pic that shows him next to Auguste. Auguste doesn't know how to hit the pose right.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: 240 is Back on July 29, 2007, 12:48:00 PM
Bodybuilding is just not marketable plain and simple.  The only person who was able to parlay bodybuilding into greatness was Arnold.  Marketing is just an excuse for the better guy losing.  Bodybuilding will always be an underground following.  Normal people just dont give a crap how much protein and how to increase your bench press in 8 weeks type info.  Glad your making money though 240...

It's not marketable on a large-scale basis (tv dollars like you see with NFL or MLB), but I think it is fairly successful, for what it is (a male beauty pageant).  You can get monthly muscle mags in different flavors at any grocery store in America.  That alone is huge.  And the supplements?  Consumers in America buy $400 million worth of creatine every year.    That's mindboggling.  
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: YoungBlood on July 29, 2007, 12:53:59 PM
Am I the only one that thinks Putnam always looks cross-eyed?

No! I've always thought that, and always thought to myself "How can a cross-eyed red headed stepchild looking 'tard like Putnam land a hot ass broad like Jessica Paxson?" :-\
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: tweeter on July 29, 2007, 12:55:24 PM
No! I've always thought that, and always thought to myself "How can a cross-eyed red headed stepchild looking 'tard like Putnam land a hot ass broad like Jessica Paxson?" :-\
Like I said earlier, he lost an eye as a kid. As I understand it, he was shot in a random drive by shooting while playing out in his front yard. One of his eyes is fake.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: YoungBlood on July 29, 2007, 01:02:28 PM
Like I said earlier, he lost an eye as a kid. As I understand it, he was shot in a random drive by shooting while playing out in his front yard. One of his eyes is fake.

That explains the reason why "thisiskeith" and myself noticed he was cross-eyed.
But it also has nothing to do with the fact that we're the only two (at least that I read, in this thread) that said something about it. :)
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on July 29, 2007, 01:34:15 PM
Like I said earlier, he lost an eye as a kid. As I understand it, he was shot in a random drive by shooting while playing out in his front yard. One of his eyes is fake.

I thought you just kidding about that...He really got shot in the eye??
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: tweeter on July 29, 2007, 01:37:49 PM
I thought you just kidding about that...He really got shot in the eye??
Yes, it has been talked about online before and I think I saw it in a magazine once too. I remember his wife telling the story on the professionalmuscle boards a while back.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on July 29, 2007, 01:39:43 PM
Yes, it has been talked about online before and I think I saw it in a magazine once too. I remember his wife telling the story on the professionalmuscle boards a while back.

Do you think his handicap helped his placing??  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: tweeter on July 29, 2007, 01:40:44 PM
Do you think his handicap helped his placing??  ;D
No, I doubt a fake eye makes you more marketable.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: gymguy on July 29, 2007, 03:47:35 PM
YES, he should have.  AND he should have gotten the second pro card, too.  He was ripped and symmetrical.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: thisiskeith12 on July 29, 2007, 03:52:33 PM
To me, Putnam is not a marketable guy as much as Auguste is.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: akers1021 on July 29, 2007, 03:56:32 PM
To me, Putnam is not a marketable guy as much as Auguste is.

I have to disagree with you here... Putnam is WAY more marketable, the blonde hair, blue eyed "all american guy" look is WAY more marketable than a "gangsta" from the hood.  This look is what will help take BB mainstream... wait a sec did I just type that, nevermind, BB will NEVER go mainstream, but hey hot dog eating contest and poker will ::)
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: tommywishbone on July 29, 2007, 03:57:16 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=161101.0;attach=184471;image)

How will that back do on the IFBB pro stage against the likes of Vic Martinez, Cutler, and others?

I hear this dude took 4th at the Cal last month.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on July 29, 2007, 03:58:00 PM
Can you beleive this gymrat got a flex cover!!!! ahhh that bugs me. He is such a nobody
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: thisiskeith12 on July 29, 2007, 04:04:50 PM
I have to disagree with you here... Putnam is WAY more marketable, the blonde hair, blue eyed "all american guy" look is WAY more marketable than a "gangsta" from the hood.  This look is what will help take BB mainstream... wait a sec did I just type that, nevermind, BB will NEVER go mainstream, but hey hot dog eating contest and poker will ::)


Wow, monster racism. Auguste is a clean-shaven non-tattooed and NON-gangsta black guy.

Putnam, on the other hand has a tattoo and a down sydrome type look because of his eye. Not all blonde haired blue eyed people are marketable.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: bigdumbbell on July 29, 2007, 04:29:57 PM
It's not marketable on a large-scale basis (tv dollars like you see with NFL or MLB), but I think it is fairly successful, for what it is (a male beauty pageant).  You can get monthly muscle mags in different flavors at any grocery store in America.  That alone is huge.  And the supplements?  Consumers in America buy $400 million worth of creatine every year.    That's mindboggling.  
dont tell us about marketing with a screaming tarzan cartoon in your corner
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: jason armstrong on July 29, 2007, 04:48:26 PM
we all know why he won Robbie (240)  ;) it still don't make it right.
But then again it's the IFBB....NPC ....

Where's the PDI when you need them...hahahahahaha!

Pete looks good but he didn't deserve to win, he'll get his pro card at the next show he does.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: sgt. d on July 29, 2007, 04:55:58 PM
we all know why he won Robbie (240)  ;) it still don't make it right.
But then again it's the IFBB....NPC ....

Where's the PDI when you need them...hahahahahaha!

Pete looks good but he didn't deserve to win, he'll get his pro card at the next show he does.

The Pdi is alive and going strong. We have over 5 million bodybuilders that could place top 5 in the Mr. O. Check out our wonderful website if you dont believe me. Our pdi rep Jack London and Wayne is doing a good job getting the athletes cheese in their pockets.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: MikeThaMachine on July 29, 2007, 08:11:55 PM
Here is a better pic that shows him next to Auguste. Auguste doesn't know how to hit the pose right.


Yeah he looks great but poses like a retarded version of Paul Dillet.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: musclecenter on July 29, 2007, 08:36:57 PM
 Peter Putnam with black posing-trunk
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: musclecenter on July 29, 2007, 08:52:04 PM
More pics from Flex Online
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 30, 2007, 03:21:52 AM
In the same way that the back-up quarterback is always a fan favorite, so is the guy who comes in second at a bodybuilding contest. They're just not judged as critically as the starter/winner.

Putnam, while he certainly had flaws, was the most polished bodybuilder on stage. Auguste has a wide back, but has zero lower lat development, His quads have no cuts and his calves are non-existant.

The right guy won.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Pete Nice on July 30, 2007, 08:31:49 AM
Marketable?? He's cross-eyed and has no eye-brows. And that hair...  :-\
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Lift Studios on July 30, 2007, 10:42:54 AM
There's no need to personally attack the guy with things out of his control. I personally had him in second and mentioned it on the wrap up video on IRONMAN and Bodybuilding.com. He'll be back for Nationals and we'll see how he fairs there.

http://webcast.bodybuilding.com/fitshow/2007usa/ltpre.mov

The three of us all look wasted, it was a long ass day.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: BAZZERKER on July 30, 2007, 03:48:02 PM
His legs are one of his best bodyparts
upper body over powers his legs... ripped quads though
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Lift Studios on July 30, 2007, 03:49:44 PM
Big Man Bui rants about Putnam on his myspace:


Before I starting typing this paragraph, just thinking about the controversial events that transpired in this next class made me literally sick to my stomach. True to form as most NPC national shows that I have been to, controversy marred what was suppose to be a free-for-all chance of a lifetime to earn an IFBB pro card. The talent … veterans Manny Torres and Al Auguste, and "dark horse" Mark Perry. The HYPE … magazine cover-boy and MET-Rx athlete, Peter Putnam. I met Peter a few years back in Pittsburgh while I was attending Jim Manion's Pittsburgy Pro Figure Show. He was a very nice guy with big dreams of one day earning an IFBB pro card. He spoke very highly of himself, which left a bad taste in my mouth … I thought to myself after our brief conversation, "This kid hasn't even competed in a national level show and he already is starting to become a legend in his own mind." He placed second last year in the Light-heavyweight Class, which I thought was a gift … and this year, he would be given another one as his name was announced the class champion amidst the crowd's cacophonic roar of displeasure.

The "booing" in the audience was deafening as almost everyone present made it clear their disapproval of the judges' decision to crown Peter Putnam the 2007 USA Light-heavyweight Champion. So ironic, that the exact same thing happened in the exact same class at last year's NPC Nationals in South Beach (Miami), FL. I sat there thinking to myself, "What the FUCK is up with the judging in this class?" Of all of the national level shows that I have attended, the Light-heavyweight Class seems to garner the most controversial calls. I truly believe that the controversy generated within the judging does nothing to help the sport and everything to destroy it. IT FUCKIN' SICKENS ME and leaves everyone completely bewildered on what the hell is being judged. It is starting to look like fuckin' high school as popularity seems to be a more important factor than sheer talent. How can the NPC possibly expect people to spend their hard-earned dollars to come out and support their friends and family members when they are NOT confident that the system will judge fairly? I understand that the sport is subjective, but "FUCKIN'-A", THERE DOES EXIST A SET OF GUIDELINES TO JUDGE BY … SYMMETRY, CONDITIONING, AND MUSCULARITY TO NAME A FEW.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: AllDrugs on July 30, 2007, 08:12:44 PM
There is a difference between having "dreams" and being DELUSIONAL.

Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Livewire on July 30, 2007, 08:19:45 PM
Big Man Bui rants about Putnam on his myspace:


Before I starting typing this paragraph, just thinking about the controversial events that transpired in this next class made me literally sick to my stomach. True to form as most NPC national shows that I have been to, controversy marred what was suppose to be a free-for-all chance of a lifetime to earn an IFBB pro card. The talent … veterans Manny Torres and Al Auguste, and "dark horse" Mark Perry. The HYPE … magazine cover-boy and MET-Rx athlete, Peter Putnam. I met Peter a few years back in Pittsburgh while I was attending Jim Manion's Pittsburgy Pro Figure Show. He was a very nice guy with big dreams of one day earning an IFBB pro card. He spoke very highly of himself, which left a bad taste in my mouth … I thought to myself after our brief conversation, "This kid hasn't even competed in a national level show and he already is starting to become a legend in his own mind." He placed second last year in the Light-heavyweight Class, which I thought was a gift … and this year, he would be given another one as his name was announced the class champion amidst the crowd's cacophonic roar of displeasure.

The "booing" in the audience was deafening as almost everyone present made it clear their disapproval of the judges' decision to crown Peter Putnam the 2007 USA Light-heavyweight Champion. So ironic, that the exact same thing happened in the exact same class at last year's NPC Nationals in South Beach (Miami), FL. I sat there thinking to myself, "What the FUCK is up with the judging in this class?" Of all of the national level shows that I have attended, the Light-heavyweight Class seems to garner the most controversial calls. I truly believe that the controversy generated within the judging does nothing to help the sport and everything to destroy it. IT FUCKIN' SICKENS ME and leaves everyone completely bewildered on what the hell is being judged. It is starting to look like fuckin' high school as popularity seems to be a more important factor than sheer talent. How can the NPC possibly expect people to spend their hard-earned dollars to come out and support their friends and family members when they are NOT confident that the system will judge fairly? I understand that the sport is subjective, but "FUCKIN'-A", THERE DOES EXIST A SET OF GUIDELINES TO JUDGE BY … SYMMETRY, CONDITIONING, AND MUSCULARITY TO NAME A FEW.

Awesome post by Erik Bui!
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Pete Nice on July 30, 2007, 08:28:12 PM
a wise man that Eryk Bui
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: AllDrugs on July 30, 2007, 09:54:55 PM
Damn straight.  I would think that a guy that speaks the TRUTH about how they feel about other people and their arrogance when they meet them would be censored from the I.F.B.B., but he just spoke about the TRUTH regarding certain people being arrogant and cocky.

Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 04, 2007, 04:40:41 PM
Damn straight.  I would think that a guy that speaks the TRUTH about how they feel about other people and their arrogance when they meet them would be censored from the I.F.B.B., but he just spoke about the TRUTH regarding certain people being arrogant and cocky.


i johnathan johnson was place eight,,, and lets compare me to peter...im sure i bring a better back and glutes,, the show was i mess
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: The Squadfather on August 04, 2007, 04:43:33 PM
damn dude awesome build, you had Peter beat for sure, you're a thick dude, side note, get that elbow calcification taken care of and your arms will look bigger.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: tweeter on August 04, 2007, 05:28:57 PM
damn dude awesome build, you had Peter beat for sure, you're a thick dude, side note, get that elbow calcification taken care of and your arms will look bigger.
What is elbow calcification?
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 04, 2007, 05:53:28 PM
how did peter win his class?   it wasnt even like a sporting event.  or maybe it was like on of those basketball games where the referee fixes the outcome
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: AllDrugs on August 04, 2007, 06:36:52 PM
J.J., you had him smoked from the back and equaled him (at least) from the front.  You were a couple weeks off conditioning-wise.

However, that show was so fixed all Putnam had to do was step on stage and he was going to win that class.  I bet he got straight first's or maybe all firsts except ONE token 2nd place vote to make it LOOK like the fix was not in.  I haven't even seen the judges scorecards and I don't need to, I guarantee you that's how it was scored.

How someone like that can turn pro in bodybuilding is beyond me, it really is.  He may have missed his chance with the hype machine being red hot this year for him.  Dixon would absolutely DESTROY him if he enters any show he's in (that would be funny to watch, actually.  Dixon is what a PRO looks like as a light-heavy) and Chaney has beat him there a couple years ago.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: musclehedz on August 05, 2007, 01:46:20 AM
i johnathan johnson was place eight,,, and lets compare me to peter...im sure i bring a better back and glutes,, the show was i mess

You look WAY better.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: MAXX on August 05, 2007, 02:16:06 AM
i johnathan johnson was place eight,,, and lets compare me to peter...im sure i bring a better back and glutes,, the show was i mess
your triceps really sucks.

they are a real big weakpoint for you. if you brought them up you would look much better.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 05, 2007, 03:21:53 PM
damn dude awesome build, you had Peter beat for sure, you're a thick dude, side note, get that elbow calcification taken care of and your arms will look bigger.
yes , i know what your talking about,,, im getting that taken care of this winter,, after i do the north american sept 1,,, i had a injury in football where a helmet spear me in the tricept,, causing some damage.. but thanks...
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 05, 2007, 03:23:43 PM
J.J., you had him smoked from the back and equaled him (at least) from the front.  You were a couple weeks off conditioning-wise.

However, that show was so fixed all Putnam had to do was step on stage and he was going to win that class.  I bet he got straight first's or maybe all firsts except ONE token 2nd place vote to make it LOOK like the fix was not in.  I haven't even seen the judges scorecards and I don't need to, I guarantee you that's how it was scored.

How someone like that can turn pro in bodybuilding is beyond me, it really is.  He may have missed his chance with the hype machine being red hot this year for him.  Dixon would absolutely DESTROY him if he enters any show he's in (that would be funny to watch, actually.  Dixon is what a PRO looks like as a light-heavy) and Chaney has beat him there a couple years ago.
i was on for conditioning,, but i stopped my water the day of the show that morning.. and i didnt get dry enough ,, so i know that could of hurt me alot...
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 05, 2007, 03:26:00 PM
You look WAY better.
thanks you ,,,,  i just know many of us worked our ass off, and pay lots of money to go to vegas to get a good stiff one... and it sucks,
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 05, 2007, 03:30:22 PM
your triceps really sucks.

they are a real big weakpoint for you. if you brought them up you would look much better.
[/quote the thing is i know this,,, and i also have a high tricept.. like darrem charles,, and some other guys,, its not much i can do for the way my muscle is develope,, its something i have worked on and will work alot harder this winter, Im not mad at what you put,, but you could of say it more nice,, like they are weak,, but time is what we all need to bring up our weak parts,, peter have the worst, and thats a back,, tricept doesnt matter as much,,,
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: HUTCH on August 05, 2007, 03:39:54 PM
Hey Jonathan...I did the middles at USA's...Got back to the room and was looking at comparisons and all of us were wondering how the hell you werent in the top 5...The light heavy class was a mess judging wise...After the top 10 they were just calling our numbers pretty much and just shuffling people off stage...kinda wierd how they did things...You got a bright future though man...
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: muscleforlife on August 05, 2007, 03:45:38 PM
Wow,

I was looking at PP's pics.

Don't know how he won that show looking at his glutes alone.

Figure/fitness competitiors have tighter asses than that.

sandra
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 05, 2007, 03:52:15 PM
Wow,

I was looking at PP's pics.

Don't know how he won that show looking at his glutes alone.

Figure/fitness competitiors have tighter asses than that.

sandra

you said it sister >:(
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 05, 2007, 03:53:27 PM
Hey Jonathan...I did the middles at USA's...Got back to the room and was looking at comparisons and all of us were wondering how the hell you werent in the top 5...The light heavy class was a mess judging wise...After the top 10 they were just calling our numbers pretty much and just shuffling people off stage...kinda wierd how they did things...You got a bright future though man...
yes it was a mess,, it shock alot of people,,  that was a mess of a show.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 05, 2007, 03:55:16 PM
Wow,

I was looking at PP's pics.

Don't know how he won that show looking at his glutes alone.

Figure/fitness competitiors have tighter asses than that.

sandra
his butt was pretty soft,, if he would of came in like last year,, i wouldnt complain
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Cavalier22 on August 05, 2007, 03:56:30 PM
You couldn't win some local shows with a back this weak.

Al Auguste got screwed plain and simple.

Everyone knew Putnam was going to win the minute he got that FLEX cover.

It's a fcking joke the way some of these shows are judged.

he won with that back?????????????????
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Cavalier22 on August 05, 2007, 04:01:16 PM
JJ, is english your first langauge???
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 05, 2007, 04:47:47 PM
JJ, is english your first langauge???
as much as spelling is yours  ::)
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 05, 2007, 05:05:22 PM
JJ, is english your first langauge???
yes,, i know, i sometime think faster than i write,,,,
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: muscleforlife on August 05, 2007, 05:55:57 PM
BTW TeeBone,

you look fantastic.

Sandra
Title: Deleted Threads
Post by: The Coach on August 05, 2007, 06:27:59 PM
Looks like Chick didn't like the Peter Putnam thread since it was deleted. Seems to me whenever there is a legit thread concerning the obvious corruption of placings with the judges (Manion) they get deleted.

The NPC was caught in an obvious scandal concerning Putnam and his placings and they really made no bones about it by giving him ALOT of publicity before the class he obviously did not deserve to win. There was a guy on here who posted who placed 8th in Putnams class and could have either won or placed a close second or third.

Anyone who knows anything should know that if someone is givin that much publicity before a major show, that person is destined to win no matter what that persons conditioning, people coming out of the woodwork to win a major show is long gone, there were quite a few competitors that couls have won Putnams easily and to be honest, the dude who won the overall was a nice surprise considering HE SHOULD HAVE WON. With the bullshit judging I would guess to say that the overall was already won by another well known highly publicized competitor until they other dude (can't remember his name) stepped on stage and blew everyone away. My guess is they changed the overall because they knew if it would have gone any other way the shit would have literally hit the fan and the house would have came down.

They did however HAD to have givin a class to another highly visable competitor just to please the publications that gave that competitor the publicity. Someone had to got screwed, it might as well have been the Lt. Hvy class.......congrats to Putnam on an undeserving win and congrats to Manion for making it happen.

BTW Bob, you know as well as I do Manion doesn't have to be on that panel to call the shots!!
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: tweeter on August 05, 2007, 06:31:23 PM
How was it deleted?
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: chaos on August 05, 2007, 06:32:29 PM
hahaha jumped the gun a little Coach?
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: Chick on August 05, 2007, 06:33:25 PM
I didn't delete it....why would I post in it and then take it off?

Bottom line is, you dont know what you're talking about....
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: CARTEL on August 05, 2007, 06:34:22 PM
hahaha jumped the gun a little Coach?

Maybe this thread will get deleted and save him some embarrassment.
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: tweeter on August 05, 2007, 06:34:37 PM
hahaha jumped the gun a little Coach?
lol, I bet Coach won't post again in this thread
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: akers1021 on August 05, 2007, 06:36:07 PM
That was'nt the thread, is was on here like 30 minutes ago.... only had 8 post when it got the ax...  

Bottom line is guys it's done and over with leave it alone and start the Jaw Cutler fridge pics, or somebody porn up this thread before it turns into a 10+ pager.... ::)

Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: tweeter on August 05, 2007, 06:37:02 PM
That was'nt the thread, is was on here like 30 minutes ago.... only had 8 post when it got the ax...  

Bottom line is guys it's done and over with leave it alone and start the Jaw Cutler fridge pics, or somebody porn up this thread before it turns into a 10+ pager.... ::)


Are you sure it didn't just get merged with the other thread?
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: akers1021 on August 05, 2007, 06:38:54 PM
Yep it was here 30 minutes ago and it wasnt merged....
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: njflex on August 05, 2007, 06:40:24 PM
yes,, i know, i sometime think faster than i write,,,,
u did get tough placing,i remember the weigh in pics and i said damn that boy is thick,yeah the tricep thing will work out.you looked sick thick relaxed as u got to the scale,and one shot caught your arm lil relaxed it does look diff from your fr bi which is large throws off a bit,your def a up and comer.good luck.
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: corinth on August 05, 2007, 06:44:47 PM
The thread mentioning Manion was deleted, by whom I don't know.

Everything the coach says is true. The day that FLEX came out with Putnam on the cover everyone knew he was going to win.

He received 10 out of 11 first place votes with no back and soft glutes and hams.
10 out of 11, give me a fcking break.

And the only reason he didn't get his pro card is because the crowd literally erupted in boos when he won his class.

No way after that were they going to risk having that place torn apart by giving him another gift that night.

It's a fcking shame that Putnam left that place with a trophy that everyone knows he didn't deserve.
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: 240 is Back on August 05, 2007, 07:50:04 PM
YES, I think the thread was deleted.  I tried responding and got that nice 'the thread is no longer...'

I don't know who killed it, but it disappeared or was merged.  But even on mergers, your new post just appears on the merged thread, right?
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: willie mosconi on August 05, 2007, 07:53:23 PM
I didn't delete it....why would I post in it and then take it off?

Bottom line is, you dont know what you're talking about....

when did you become a moderator?
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: YoungBlood on August 05, 2007, 08:04:58 PM
when did you become a moderator?

Most people with blue stars also have moderating privileges.
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: sgt. d on August 05, 2007, 08:05:41 PM
I think The Coach is the best baseball player to ever play the game.
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 05, 2007, 08:28:20 PM
someone did something and yes, The Coach had one of the best butts in all of baseball. :-X
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: TheDoctor on August 05, 2007, 08:31:23 PM
The Moderators need a Kick up the Backside. ???
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: The Coach on August 05, 2007, 08:50:58 PM
How was it deleted?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=161101.0


No, not that thread, it was one that recently started just before I started this thread. I posted in it and when I hit the "post" button it came up that the topic I posted in did not exist. No, chaos, I didn't jump.
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: The Coach on August 05, 2007, 08:52:44 PM
I didn't delete it....why would I post in it and then take it off?

Bottom line is, you dont know what you're talking about....

Because Manion was getting called out!!
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: McFarland on August 05, 2007, 08:54:38 PM
yes it was a mess,, it shock alot of people,,  that was a mess of a show.

You looked great, bro, but it just goes to show that you've really gotta get out there and market yourself these days.  Up and comers with potential aren't as likely to get spotted by those in positions willing and able to do it all for them anymore. 

Peter works very hard from that angle.        
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: chaos on August 05, 2007, 08:55:35 PM
No, not that thread, it was one that recently started just before I started this thread. I posted in it and when I hit the "post" button it came up that the topic I posted in did not exist. No, chaos, I didn't jump.
you started this thread at 6:30, then come back over two hours later to check the bashing process................. .are you disappointed?
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: The Coach on August 05, 2007, 08:57:10 PM
you started this thread at 6:30, then come back over two hours later to check the bashing process................. .are you disappointed?

No, I went out to dinner and now I'm taking a shit....in that order :D

It's my cheat day ;D!
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: Fulgorre on August 05, 2007, 09:00:53 PM
Poor Auguste!

Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: The Coach on August 05, 2007, 09:02:50 PM
Poor Auguste!



Exept for this dudes calves, Putnam got smoked!!
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: chaos on August 05, 2007, 09:33:29 PM
Exept for this dudes calves, Putnam got smoked!!
you got it all wrong Coach, Putnam had to smoke someone to get the win, what was that guys name again? :D
Title: Re: Deleted Threads
Post by: willie mosconi on August 05, 2007, 10:22:47 PM
Most people with blue stars also have moderating privileges.

well, I think that's bullshit. people in the industry should not be allowed to censor like that
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Cold on August 05, 2007, 11:07:50 PM
I'd hate to tell you this, but ask any woman across America and nobody will tell you she prefers guys with blond hair and blue eyes. Get with the program this is 2007. All women prefer guys with dark hair, tan skin, and black/brown eyes.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 06, 2007, 04:30:52 AM
I'd hate to tell you this, but ask any woman across America and nobody will tell you she prefers guys with blond hair and blue eyes. Get with the program this is 2007. All women prefer guys with dark hair, tan skin, and black/brown eyes.

who buys the rags, white people with money.  hope this helps. :)
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 05:45:03 AM
BTW TeeBone,

you look fantastic.

Sandra
thank you , i am trying,, and working hard.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 05:54:03 AM
u did get tough placing,i remember the weigh in pics and i said damn that boy is thick,yeah the tricep thing will work out.you looked sick thick relaxed as u got to the scale,and one shot caught your arm lil relaxed it does look diff from your fr bi which is large throws off a bit,your def a up and comer.good luck.
thank, yep , i know my left tri, is a concern to me,, i was drilled in it when i played semi pro football... and it started a build up on elbow,, im working on tricept hard,,and after north american ,, i will have the elbow fixed,,, This is one flaw that bothers me but can be corrected,, and many ways..
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 05:59:45 AM
You looked great, bro, but it just goes to show that you've really gotta get out there and market yourself these days.  Up and comers with potential aren't as likely to get spotted by those in positions willing and able to do it all for them anymore. 

Peter works very hard from that angle.        
i understand that,, my first national show was the north american,, in 2005 i place 2nd, peter done that show as well and place 5th,,,, so i figure they would remeber me,, but i didnt do any good last year,,,, so i know i have to start over, and keep hitting the big show
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: JessFit on August 06, 2007, 08:27:18 AM
peter had it easy be cause his wife,,, if i had a wife that was pro,, i would have her do the same for me, as in marketing,,, but i would at least bust my ass and come to a show in condition if i was going to get the help he had...

Johnathan... Peter's placing had NOTHING to do with me and I DO NOT "market" him.  All this talk is silly but is to be expected.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: dearth on August 06, 2007, 09:34:54 AM
Johnathan... Peter's placing had NOTHING to do with me and I DO NOT "market" him.  All this talk is silly but is to be expected.

So who did Peter sleep with to win the class looking like s*hit?
Manion?
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: bigtraps on August 06, 2007, 09:39:28 AM
So who did Peter sleep with to win the class looking like s*hit?
Manion?

VERY good question.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: corinth on August 06, 2007, 09:42:18 AM
Johnathan... Peter's placing had NOTHING to do with me and I DO NOT "market" him.  All this talk is silly but is to be expected.

What did it have to do with then?  Because he sure didn't have the best physique on stage that night.

Putnam took home a trophy he didn't deserve. Absolute bullshit.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: tweeter on August 06, 2007, 09:45:29 AM
You guys have posted the worst pics of him on here. His back compares decently with Auguste in this pic.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Lift Studios on August 06, 2007, 10:06:52 AM
i understand that,, my first national show was the north american,, in 2005 i place 2nd, peter done that show as well and place 5th,,,, so i figure they would remeber me,, but i didnt do any good last year,,,, so i know i have to start over, and keep hitting the big show,, and you guy will see alot of me... peter had it easy be cause his wife,,, if i had a wife that was pro,, i would have her do the same for me, as in marketing,,, but i would at least bust my ass and come to a show in condition if i was going to get the help he had...
No offense but you're back, hamstrings and glutes were not better than Peter's. Comparing photos online doesn't prove anything. I told Jess that I thought Peter would get second to Al but it isn't anything personal towards her or Peter. Why would you make it personal towards her? That's pathetic. To come on here and say Peter had it easy because of his wife is idiotic. The fact that she is a pro means nothing. Instead of hating on a couple that is getting exposure in the industry, devote that energy to bringing better conditioning to your next show and you might do a little better.

LIFT
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Pete Dimano on August 06, 2007, 10:25:37 AM
Johnathan... Peter's placing had NOTHING to do with me and I DO NOT "market" him.  All this talk is silly but is to be expected.

Jess,

would you agree that all things equal, the bodybuilder with better marketing before the show will win?
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: The Coach on August 06, 2007, 10:28:04 AM
No offense but you're back, hamstrings and glutes were not better than Peter's. Comparing photos online doesn't prove anything. I told Jess that I thought Peter would get second to Al but it isn't anything personal towards her or Peter. Why would you make it personal towards her? That's pathetic. To come on here and say Peter had it easy because of his wife is idiotic. The fact that she is a pro means nothing. Instead of hating on a couple that is getting exposure in the industry, devote that energy to bringing better conditioning to your next show and you might do a little better.

LIFT

maybe it should be rephrased that "Peter had it easy because of the pre-contest pub and no matter what kind of shape they came in they wouldn't have had a chance anyway"..........does that sound better Isaak?
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 10:31:54 AM
Johnathan... Peter's placing had NOTHING to do with me and I DO NOT "market" him.  All this talk is silly but is to be expected.
yes it was to be, im not saying you market him,,, the company that picked him up market him.. but we all know that you have alot of pull, because your at the pro level and you know people, which HELPS a great deal...all im saying is the placing should of been fair,, we know peter was not in top condition..and im sure he see that.. and i know its not his fault that he was picked above other.. its that this show from what i understand was base on condition  ,,,, this show was mapped , and stamp to whom was going to win,, the show is over and nothing can be done, im looking ahead to my next,,, The usa was a waste of money and time for all who got the shaft...
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: The Coach on August 06, 2007, 10:36:48 AM
yes it was to be, im not saying you market him,,, the company that picked him up market him.. but we all know that you have alot of pull, because your at the pro level and you know people, which HELPS a great deal...all im saying is the placing should of been fair,, we know peter was not in top condition..and im sure he see that.. and i know its not his fault that he was picked above other.. its that this show from what i understand was base on condition  ,,,, this show was mapped , and stamp to whom was going to win,, the show is over and nothing can be done, im looking ahead to my next,,, The usa was a waste of money and time for all who got the shaft...

Dude, If I can make a suggestion. Stay on the down low with your accusations in your posts, these guys know who you are and will remember for the next National show you're in.........seriously, you're gonna get screwed big time!!
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Lift Studios on August 06, 2007, 10:38:24 AM
maybe it should be rephrased that "Peter had it easy because of the pre-contest pub and no matter what kind of shape they came in they wouldn't have had a chance anyway"..........does that sound better Isaak?
No, I don't think Peter had it easy. While I think he should have been second doesn't discredit his hard work and dedication to improving. Why hate on the man for getting exposure? It's what every one of the guys pissing and moaning who placed behind him want. More power to him for getting the exposure. I don't have to agree with the placings, every show will have some controversy because it is subjective. You can't discredit Peter's accomplishments and ability to get his name out there. His wife certainly has nothing to do with his placings and to state otherwise is foolish.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 10:39:13 AM
No offense but you're back, hamstrings and glutes were not better than Peter's. Comparing photos online doesn't prove anything. I told Jess that I thought Peter would get second to Al but it isn't anything personal towards her or Peter. Why would you make it personal towards her? That's pathetic. To come on here and say Peter had it easy because of his wife is idiotic. The fact that she is a pro means nothing. Instead of hating on a couple that is getting exposure in the industry, devote that energy to bringing better conditioning to your next show and you might do a little better.

LIFT
well if you would look at the pics of me i was condition and ready,, maybe alittle water,, and not sqeezing my hamstring,, other than that everbody can see from my side chest,, i was conditon,, and if you were a bodybuilder, that had a pro wife, and she was always around the big dogs of the sport,, im sure you would have her talk you up the bing you up.. cause i would,, and every one eals,,, and peter had it easy,, because he didnt even have to come in the show condition, and its not because of his wife,, it is sponsor,,, the funny you talk about my condition,, it was way better than peter,,  dont want to be mean,, 
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Lift Studios on August 06, 2007, 10:40:19 AM
yes it was to be, im not saying you market him,,, the company that picked him up market him.. but we all know that you have alot of pull, because your at the pro level and you know people, which HELPS a great deal...all im saying is the placing should of been fair,, we know peter was not in top condition..and im sure he see that.. and i know its not his fault that he was picked above other.. its that this show from what i understand was base on condition  ,,,, this show was mapped , and stamp to whom was going to win,, the show is over and nothing can be done, im looking ahead to my next,,, The usa was a waste of money and time for all who got the shaft...
Imagine that another bitter, self-serving, ego maniac complaining about his placings after the show.

 ::)
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Pete Dimano on August 06, 2007, 10:41:12 AM
peter should defend it, or keep his 'better half' away from getbig.

she's gonna get torn up like dugdale's woman did when she tried that religion thing.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 10:42:02 AM
Imagine that another bitter, self-serving, ego maniac complaining about his placings after the show.

 ::)
pics tell,, kill your noise ,, other already did ...
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Pete Dimano on August 06, 2007, 10:45:08 AM
pics tell,, kill your noise ,, other already did ...


haha oh shit, johnathon getting all froggy!
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: garraeth on August 06, 2007, 10:46:20 AM
I dunno if anyone else has noticed this, but there are only two kinds of bbers Chick and Issac defend:

1. Ones bought and paid for by the IFBB (or "teh man" -- take your pick).

2. Ones who will be bought and paid for by the IFBB in the near future.

Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Lift Studios on August 06, 2007, 10:47:05 AM
well if you would look at the pics of me i was condition and ready,, maybe alittle water,, and not sqeezing my hamstring,, other than that everbody can see from my side chest,, i was conditon,, and if you were a bodybuilder, that had a pro wife, and she was always around the big dogs of the sport,, im sure you would have her talk you up the bing you up.. cause i would,, and every one eals,,, and peter had it easy,, because he didnt even have to come in the show condition, and its not because of his wife,, it is sponsor,,, the funny you talk about my condition,, it was way better than peter,, and i can not diet and look better than you

Tee Bonehead - I was at the show in the press pit and saw your conditioning, I don't need to look at photos. You were holding more water than Lake Erie. Of course you're going to post the best pictures of yourself and complain you got screwed. Peter didn't have it easy and you're sounding like a whiny bitch.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: The Coach on August 06, 2007, 10:48:39 AM
No, I don't think Peter had it easy. While I think he should have been second doesn't discredit his hard work and dedication to improving. Why hate on the man for getting exposure? It's what every one of the guys pissing and moaning who placed behind him want. More power to him for getting the exposure. I don't have to agree with the placings, every show will have some controversy because it is subjective. You can't discredit Peter's accomplishments and ability to get his name out there. His wife certainly has nothing to do with his placings and to state otherwise is foolish.

I'm not "hating" anyone for getting exposure, I think it's great and I'm definatly not taking anything away from Peters hard work, your missing the point, what I've been seeing is that when people get ALOT of exposure, it's almost a sure win. You have guys out there who bust they're ass that come in better shape and because they don't have the "Exposure" they don't even get looked at........again, I never said it was Putnams fault nor will insinuate that, but fact is fact.

It's either you have to have the exposure or you have to pay your dues no matter how much better the other person might be and thats just not fair. It's not a matter of who's the best anymore.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Pete Dimano on August 06, 2007, 10:49:07 AM
I dunno if anyone else has noticed this, but there are only two kinds of bbers Chick and Issac defend:
1. Ones bought and paid for by the IFBB (or "teh man" -- take your pick).
2. Ones who will be bought and paid for by the IFBB in the near future.

hahaha oh yeah, and judges like Lee Thompson who show up as 'texas bubba' and use crass and racist words.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Lift Studios on August 06, 2007, 10:51:01 AM
I dunno if anyone else has noticed this, but there are only two kinds of bbers Chick and Issac defend:

1. Ones bought and paid for by the IFBB (or "teh man" -- take your pick).

2. Ones who will be bought and paid for by the IFBB in the near future.


When you pull your head out of Milos' ass you'll see I stated I thought Peter should not have won. To come on here and complain about placing 8th and thinking you got screwed because the man's wife is a pro figure competitor is idiotic. Peter and Jess are good people, why make it personal? Every single person on that stage would love to be in their shoes and be on the cover of a magazine. Jealousy is a motha.

Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Pete Dimano on August 06, 2007, 10:56:26 AM
i look better than peter and so did others,, im saying i should of won the dam show,, it was a fucking fix show


This man has balls!!
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 10:56:45 AM
I'm not "hating" anyone for getting exposure, I think it's great and I'm definatly not taking anything away from Peters hard work, your missing the point, what I've been seeing is that when people get ALOT of exposure, it's almost a sure win. You have guys out there who bust they're ass that come in better shape and because they don't have the "Exposure" they don't even get looked at........again, I never said it was Putnams fault nor will insinuate that, but fact is fact.

It's either you have to have the exposure or you have to pay your dues no matter how much better the other person might be and thats just not fair. It's not a matter of who's the best anymore.
thank you...well said.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Lift Studios on August 06, 2007, 10:57:43 AM
I'm not "hating" anyone for getting exposure, I think it's great and I'm definatly not taking anything away from Peters hard work, your missing the point, what I've been seeing is that when people get ALOT of exposure, it's almost a sure win. You have guys out there who bust they're ass that come in better shape and because they don't have the "Exposure" they don't even get looked at........again, I never said it was Putnams fault nor will insinuate that, but fact is fact.

It's either you have to have the exposure or you have to pay your dues no matter how much better the other person might be and thats just not fair. It's not a matter of who's the best anymore.
I disagree. Sure exposure doesn't hurt but look at Justin Harris, he has had exposure and did he win? No. A couple years ago Fahkri came in ridiculous conditioning to USAs and turned pro, with no exposure before hand. Saying it's all exposure isn't entirely the case. Paying your dues is something you do at the library and saying that is what you have to do in bodybuilding is idiotic. If that were the case Ken Jones would be winning shows and Dave Palumbo should be pro, they both "paid their dues".
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: The Coach on August 06, 2007, 10:58:06 AM

This man has balls!!

Dude just fucked himself out of a possible bodybuilding career!
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Stavios on August 06, 2007, 11:03:25 AM
Imagine that another bitter, self-serving, ego maniac complaining about his placings after the show.

 ::)

I hate to agree but altough teebones looks good, he does sound like a whinny bitch  :-\

Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 11:04:34 AM

This man has balls!!
i mean sorry ,, that i dont think i should of won the show... sorry ,,
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Lift Studios on August 06, 2007, 11:07:43 AM
you just dont get,,  i look way better than peter, and beat him before, and  not in the condition i was in at that show..  i dont care if his wife did what ever she had to do to get him a pro card,, im say the show suck,, weather i got  33th place,, it suck,, for many others. because of a cover boy...
Oh, I get it. You placed 8th and should spend more time working on your training and conditioning than complaining online. Who cares if you beat him before, you didn't that night and to say you were better than him only makes you sound like a fool. Leave the man's wife out of it, she has nothing to do with you placing 8th. The only thing that sucks is your attitude and you wonder why you get no exposure.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Ron on August 06, 2007, 11:22:50 AM
Quote
i dont care if his wife did what ever she had to do to get him a pro card,,


She looked great, she is beautiful, of course he won his class because of her! Jeez, we may jest in that, but get real! Peter worked very hard, trained like crazy, dieting,  and looked great. People say he didnt have legs, wasnt complete, but on that day, he had the overall package.

You looked good, but honestly, when you look at the pics, realistically you were not in the top five.

(http://www.getbig.com/pics/usa/2007/expo/usa5333.jpg)

Peter's legs look great here...


More pics here...

http://www.getbig.com/pics/usa/2007/usa2007.htm
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 11:27:40 AM
Dude just fucked himself out of a possible bodybuilding career!
its polatics its possible...
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Lift Studios on August 06, 2007, 11:28:33 AM
can u read,, im not blaming his wife,, and i never said she had anything to do with me placing 8th,, i like 8th place.. i love it,, he did deserve first,, and beside you on here complaning,, that what this board for right,, my attitude fine,, you mouth is bad,, i did ask for you to come and  down talk me , write,, .. if you would read early on,, you would know some of the things i said,, .... im in condition,,
Work on your English and grammar in between your sets and reps. Good to hear you're in condition two weeks after the show.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 11:29:33 AM

This man has balls!!
I didint mean than,, i meant ,, i dont think i should of won the show...
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 11:31:25 AM

haha oh shit, johnathon getting all froggy!
haha,, just having fun,,, that what this is for right.. i do be messing up my word,,
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: pumpher on August 06, 2007, 11:34:19 AM
can u read,, im not blaming his wife,, and i never said she had anything to do with me placing 8th,, i like 8th place.. i love it,, he did deserve first,, and beside you on here complaning,, that what this board for right,, my attitude fine,, you mouth is bad,, i did ask for you to come and  down talk me , write,, .. if you would read early on,, you would know some of the things i said,, .... im in condition,,

HAHA did you,,, go to english/grammar,,, school,,, with GH15?  ;)
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 11:35:23 AM


She looked great, she is beautiful, of course he won his class because of her! Jeez, we may jest in that, but get real! Peter worked very hard, trained like crazy, dieting,  and looked great. People say he didnt have legs, wasnt complete, but on that day, he had the overall package.

You looked good, but honestly, when you look at the pics, realistically you were not in the top five.

(http://www.getbig.com/pics/usa/2007/expo/usa5333.jpg)

Peter's legs look great here...


More pics here...

http://www.getbig.com/pics/usa/2007/usa2007.htm

i know i wasnt top five,, and i can live with that and roll to the next show... but i just dont think he should of won class...
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 11:37:33 AM
HAHA did you,,, go to english/grammar,,, school,,, with GH15?  ;)
from you.. thank you..
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 11:39:13 AM
HAHA did you,,, go to english/grammar,,, school,,, with GH15?  ;)
only kidding...
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 11:43:01 AM
Work on your English and grammar in between your sets and reps. Good to hear you're in condition two weeks after the show.
i will do that,,, i will see ya around... later
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 06, 2007, 11:44:33 AM

This man has balls!!
I dont think i should of won the show.. im happy with my place.. just thought someone eals should of won the class..
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Ron on August 06, 2007, 11:54:19 AM
Respect is respect. Appreciate you posting on the boards, even if English isnt your first language. 30% of the people on the boards who visit come from outside the USA, and people who only speak one language don't realize how hard it is sometimes to learn a second language. As long as you keep trying, that is the important part.  It is always important to learn to speak and write the language on the country in which you live in, no matter where you are.

That being said, there was a lot of talk that Peter should not have won his class. But also a lot said he said of.  He had the most complete and overall physique, but does that mean he has every bodypart won. Nope. Hence, even us writers and photographers have varying opinions in this matter.

Learn from the pics, speak to a few judges, and come back next year even better. Even Ronnie Coleman in his first Olympia placed 15th or so, same with Jay Cutler.

Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: H-BOMB on August 06, 2007, 12:09:46 PM
10 out of 11 judges gave Peter first place.  Nuff said!  There was no conspiracy.  Weider had nothing to do with it.  Get lives and quit hating on the guy.  He's a stand up dude, great competitor, and his good for the sport... not that anyone here cares though
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Pete Dimano on August 06, 2007, 12:38:05 PM
10 out of 11 judges gave Peter first place.  Nuff said!  There was no conspiracy.  Weider had nothing to do with it.  Get lives and quit hating on the guy.  He's a stand up dude, great competitor, and his good for the sport... not that anyone here cares though

thanks for clearning things up, Mr Manion!
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: The Coach on August 06, 2007, 12:38:33 PM
thanks for clearning things up, Mr Manion!

lol
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 06, 2007, 01:10:02 PM
PP was the better bodybuilder that day.  He got first because he deserved it.  Now where is that French judge?
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Pete Dimano on August 06, 2007, 01:12:36 PM
he's good for the sport...

Interesting that you don't say he has a better physique.  you say he's "good for the sport".

busted.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: corinth on August 06, 2007, 01:18:05 PM
10 out of 11 judges gave Peter first place.  Nuff said!  There was no conspiracy.  Weider had nothing to do with it.  Get lives and quit hating on the guy.  He's a stand up dude, great competitor, and his good for the sport... not that anyone here cares though

The fact that he got 10 out of 11 first place votes is the proof positive that the fix was in. Don't you know how this works man?
It's always 10 out of 11 when the fix is in. Always.

Good for the sport? What the hell is that supposed to mean?

A guy with no back and soft glutes and hams is good for the sport? A guy that was given a victory is good for the sport?

Another 5-5 guy that will never do anything in the pros is good for the sport?
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: The Coach on August 06, 2007, 01:58:38 PM
Bodybuilding is not a "sport" ;D
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 06, 2007, 02:38:24 PM
The fact that he got 10 out of 11 first place votes is the proof positive that the fix was in. Don't you know how this works man?
It's always 10 out of 11 when the fix is in. Always.


Just because the show was fixed doesn't mean that Peter didn't deserve to win.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: tweeter on August 06, 2007, 02:52:24 PM
Peter was the most polished and complete.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: dearth on August 06, 2007, 03:10:27 PM
No, I don't think Peter had it easy.

getting first place when you have no rear double biceps, smooth glutes, no hams is called "having it easy" or more accurately receiving a gift.

hope this helps
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: tweeter on August 06, 2007, 03:13:27 PM
getting first place when you have no rear double biceps, smooth glutes, no hams is called "having it easy" or more accurately receiving a gift.

hope this helps
Hams are much bigger than Auguste's...just not as cut
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: dearth on August 06, 2007, 03:14:36 PM
When you pull your head out of Milos' ass you'll see I stated I thought Peter should not have won. To come on here and complain about placing 8th and thinking you got screwed because the man's wife is a pro figure competitor is idiotic. Peter and Jess are good people, why make it personal? Every single person on that stage would love to be in their shoes and be on the cover of a magazine. Jealousy is a motha.

speaking of having a head in someones ass, have you given phil a break and moved into Peters rectum now?

I don't think every single person would love to be in their shoes, because that person would be the recepient of political gifts as opposed to actually earning something.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: dearth on August 06, 2007, 03:18:52 PM
10 out of 11 judges gave Peter first place.  Nuff said!  There was no conspiracy.  Weider had nothing to do with it.  Get lives and quit hating on the guy.  He's a stand up dude, great competitor, and his good for the sport... not that anyone here cares though

So Peter gave handjobs to 10 out of 11 judges ?
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Pete Dimano on August 06, 2007, 03:45:11 PM
So Peter gave handjobs to 10 out of 11 judges ?

yet his forearms remain so small.  it's a mystery.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 06, 2007, 03:49:59 PM
maybe it should be rephrased that "Peter had it easy because of the pre-contest pub and no matter what kind of shape they came in they wouldn't have had a chance anyway"..........does that sound better Isaak?

that's more truthful coach
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 06, 2007, 03:52:32 PM
speaking of having a head in someones ass, have you given phil a break and moved into Peters rectum now?

I don't think every single person would love to be in their shoes, because that person would be the recepient of political gifts as opposed to actually earning something.

political gifts are the standard in corrupt events and bodybuilding is not a sporting event
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: garraeth on August 06, 2007, 04:09:35 PM
When you pull your head out of Milos' ass you'll see I stated I thought Peter should not have won. To come on here and complain about placing 8th and thinking you got screwed because the man's wife is a pro figure competitor is idiotic. Peter and Jess are good people, why make it personal? Every single person on that stage would love to be in their shoes and be on the cover of a magazine. Jealousy is a motha.


heh, what's you being bought and paid for by the IFBB got to do with Milos? Strange logic...desperate need to prove your independence...  ::)
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: H-BOMB on August 06, 2007, 04:49:30 PM
Sport/Industry, same difference.  He's good for it because he is a decent person who has a pro caliber physique.  Peter will only get better in the years to come so you can count on him being around for you clowns to hate on him.  You know what they say about jealous?
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Pete Dimano on August 06, 2007, 04:52:36 PM
Sport/Industry, same difference.  He's good for it because he is a decent person who has a pro caliber physique.  Peter will only get better in the years to come so you can count on him being around for you clowns to hate on him.  You know what they say about jealous?


Who gives a fvck if he's a "decent person"?

Ronnie Coleman is possibly a racist who bashes white people.  Does that mean we should give his Sandows to Jocelyn P because he's a much nicer fellah?

Pathetic, IFBB-ass kissing argument you're delivering here.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 06, 2007, 05:10:11 PM

Who gives a fvck if he's a "decent person"?

Ronnie Coleman is possibly a racist who bashes white people.  Does that mean we should give his Sandows to Jocelyn P because he's a much nicer fellah?

Pathetic, IFBB-ass kissing argument you're delivering here.

hahaha  u tell em boss
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: AllDrugs on August 06, 2007, 08:40:35 PM
I wonder if being "decent" prevents your hams and glutes from being anything but soft or your back from growing...ever...?
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: tweeter on August 06, 2007, 09:37:12 PM
I wonder if being "decent" prevents your hams and glutes from being anything but soft or your back from growing...ever...?
What is with everyone's glute fascination on here? It seems like glutes are the most important bodypart now. What ever happened to calves?

This pic shows how well developed his hams are.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: tweeter on August 06, 2007, 09:38:41 PM
Here is a back shot from the judge's angle. He has very thick lower lats and a christmas tree...something most competitors didn't have.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: BIG DUB on August 06, 2007, 09:49:28 PM
???Where?

Here is a back shot from the judge's angle. He has very thick lower lats and a christmas tree...something most competitors didn't have.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: tweeter on August 06, 2007, 09:51:29 PM
???Where?

Look up
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: AllDrugs on August 07, 2007, 08:32:18 PM
Tweeter, his back looks like one of a competitor from a local show...a 4th or 5th place finisher.  It's just that bad. 

Regarding glutes, it's not just his GLUTES that are soft, his hamstrings are as well.  He was not conditioned well.  I'm not sure what your tie to him is but I hate to see people be given things through running their mouth and shaking hands that they didn't deserve through hard work.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: muscleforlife on August 07, 2007, 08:41:46 PM
I wonder if being "decent" prevents your hams and glutes from being anything but soft or your back from growing...ever...?

Being a female, I am used to seeing rock hard asses on bodybuilders/strippers, fitness/ figure competitors.

PP doesn't have a tight ass, ergo, the glute/hammy tie in.

If you have a pic of that tie in, show and prove.

Sandra
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: AllDrugs on August 07, 2007, 09:13:30 PM
Being a female, I am used to seeing rock hard asses on bodybuilders/strippers, fitness/ figure competitors.

PP doesn't have a tight ass, ergo, the glute/hammy tie in.

If you have a pic of that tie in, show and prove.

Sandra

How can I provide proof of something that doesn't exist?

I think his wife had him beat on conditioning a couple weeks before at her show.  Maybe he should follow her diet next time?
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Bast000 on August 07, 2007, 09:27:59 PM
'tbonesteak'  did your tear your left triceps, and what's with your enormous elbows?  you have no chance of winning with arms like that.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Livewire on August 07, 2007, 09:30:08 PM
putnam has a narrow back.

next to a vic martinez or a cuter, he's going to look like dog shit.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Bast000 on August 07, 2007, 09:30:40 PM
Peter was the most polished and complete.

I agree.  The Auguste guy is close but his calves are out of proportion and Putnum looks bigger overall.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: tweeter on August 07, 2007, 10:40:19 PM
putnam has a narrow back.

next to a vic martinez or a cuter, he's going to look like dog shit.
He wasn't competing against Martinez or Cutler.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: tweeter on August 07, 2007, 10:43:39 PM
I agree.  The Auguste guy is close but his calves are out of proportion and Putnum looks bigger overall.
Yes, Auguste has a very good physique but just needs a little more time. Although, there is probably not much he can do about his calves. He is also kind of bowlegged which doesn't help.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: tweeter on August 07, 2007, 10:58:44 PM
Tweeter, his back looks like one of a competitor from a local show...a 4th or 5th place finisher.  It's just that bad. 

Regarding glutes, it's not just his GLUTES that are soft, his hamstrings are as well.  He was not conditioned well.  I'm not sure what your tie to him is but I hate to see people be given things through running their mouth and shaking hands that they didn't deserve through hard work.
Hamstrings looked somewhat soft in a few of the pics posted from flexonline, but I don't think these were representative of how he really looked (he may not have been flexing yet). I agree that Auguste was better conditioned but I still think that Peter was better overall. In regards to being given a gift, you can't hate on the guy just because he knows how to market himself and get some exposure...as they say "thats just business"
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: AllDrugs on August 07, 2007, 11:14:16 PM
In regards to being given a gift, you can't hate on the guy just because he knows how to market himself and get some exposure...as they say "thats just business"

That says a lot, actually.  The Michelin Man isn't an N.P.C. competitor, last time I checked.

I'm still trying to figure out from, reading this thread and the posting history of both of them, why his woman came on here to defend him in this thread instead of him.  I would think that any man would defend themselves on this board or any other, as all of these boards share the same opinion of his placing.  Could it be because he doesn't want to run his mouth before the judging at his next contest?

 ::)

They sure as hell live together, and he's reading every damn one of these posts.  WHY he doesn't come on here to defend himself personally but will send his WIFE ON...who the hell knows.  That's pretty damn low-rent, IMO.  If the guy had any sack at all, he'd be here defending himself/giving his opinion regarding his placement.  I think that him sending his wife here to speak for him says a lot about him as a MAN, or lackthereof.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: AllDrugs on August 07, 2007, 11:32:51 PM
Tweeter, if SHE read this thread then you KNOW HE read it.

But he BOWED OUT from responding.

Why?  Because he won a show he shouldn't have and he figured he'd shuttle her ass here to respond until his next show.  The fact that HE won't post her to defend himself, as he CLEARLY READS THIS FORUM, is sad.  And he DOES READ IT, either through jessica's login or his own.  He's read ever damn word of this post.

Peter, the fact that you won't defend yourself speaks volumes about you as a man (or lackthereof).
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: tweeter on August 08, 2007, 10:04:04 AM
Tweeter, if SHE read this thread then you KNOW HE read it.

But he BOWED OUT from responding.

Why?  Because he won a show he shouldn't have and he figured he'd shuttle her ass here to respond until his next show.  The fact that HE won't post her to defend himself, as he CLEARLY READS THIS FORUM, is sad.  And he DOES READ IT, either through jessica's login or his own.  He's read ever damn word of this post.

Peter, the fact that you won't defend yourself speaks volumes about you as a man (or lackthereof).
I never said that I didn't think he had read this thread. I am just saying that he obviously doesn't feel the need to come on here and defend himself (translation: his life doesn't revolve around his popularity or approval on getbig).
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: brian36 on August 08, 2007, 11:22:22 AM
He probably doesn't care what anyone on here thinks.  I wouldn't.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: I ETA PI on August 08, 2007, 12:41:34 PM
Tweeter = Peter

Hope this helps...just in case anyone hasn't caught on over the past year or so...
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Livewire on August 08, 2007, 12:49:16 PM
Tweeter = Peter

Hope this helps...just in case anyone hasn't caught on over the past year or so...

HAHAHAHAH TWEETER = PETER PUTNAM
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: bigtraps on August 08, 2007, 12:57:32 PM
(translation: his life doesn't revolve around his popularity or approval on getbig).

How did he win his class then?
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Livewire on August 08, 2007, 01:02:29 PM
Here are Putnam's small legs ::)

HAHAHAHA  Tweeter, you really ARE Peter Putnam!
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: Livewire on August 08, 2007, 01:04:40 PM
Yes, it has been talked about online before and I think I saw it in a magazine once too. I remember his wife telling the story on the professionalmuscle boards a while back.

HAHAHAHA  Tweeter, you really ARE Peter Putnam!
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: dearth on August 08, 2007, 03:39:56 PM
I never said that I didn't think he had read this thread. I am just saying that he obviously doesn't feel the need   to come on here and defend himself (translation: his life doesn't revolve around his popularity or approval on getbig).

Obviously you do feel the need.

btw - thanks for taking any credibilty that the NPC had with your hype driven "win".
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Bear on August 08, 2007, 03:58:53 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=161101.0;attach=184468;image)

Corinth you're furious August didn't win?! Check Putnam's superior thickness and condition. His back being a tad weaker cannot undo this advantage. Plus I think August looks quite shallow in some of the back comparisons anyway.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: AllDrugs on August 08, 2007, 04:16:31 PM
My response to a Personal Message which I received this morning.  I think it's better served to be posted here rather than kept private:

At some point I would hope that you all would realize that not everyone buys the charade you all put on.  I think you are both very fake individuals that hide behind God.  I don't believe your act is genuine and there are MANY more people around here who feel the same way I do.  

I do not think Knoxville's bodybuilding/fitness community should be represented by those who crossed over to the dark side.  You all don't represent everything that is right with health and fitness...you represent everything that is WRONG.  "Do as I say, not as I do" should be stamped on both of your foreheads.  Inspiration requires introspection.  How could you speak at an elementary school and live with yourselves?  You CAN'T because of your warped viewpoint regarding drug usage would prevent you from every being allowed to speak at an elementary school.  How sad is that?  Pretty sad.

Christianity (as you all should know) is based on FREE CHOICE or free will, meaning you accept Jesus Christ as your savior or you do not.  It's my CHOICE to disapprove of the methods which you all are using to FORCE yourself on the masses.  There's a right way and a wrong way to live life.  

Some of the things I've posted on the net may have been over the top but I don't think I've posted anything I should be physically threatened over (premeditated assault is a felony, btw).  That's ridiculous.  If you all can't handle criticism and being public figures you need to find another way to make a living.  This isn't about jealousy, envy or any other crap like that.  I think Knoxville has better choices when it comes to representitives for it's health and fitness community.  If you all don't like what I have to say on INTERNET MESSAGE BOARDS, get over it.  If you are GENUINE, why would you even CARE what ANYONE says on these boards?  Answer that one, please.

Knoxville's fitness "community" isn't confined to you all and your friends.  That's a very arrogant viewpoint but it's not suprising that you all actually feel that way.  That's actually quite comical.  The fact that your acquaintances are "aware of the situation" sounds like an oblique threat to me.

Btw, I have ZERO CLUE what you are talking about regarding emails to Peter.  And, at this point, why would I say that I didn't send something when I did?  I've sent neither of you anything except on here in about 2 years.  I do find it interesting that others are reaching out to you all with the same distaste for your fakeness that I have (if that's what it was about).

This is done.  I'm tired of wallowing in the mud with you all.  You all are beneath me.  As hard as that is for you to accept, it's the truth.  I do things the right way regarding health and fitness...you all do not.  Just the notion that people like you all would represent someone like me is honestly insulting.  Do NOT call me.  Do NOT come by my workplace.  Don't even think about coming by my home.  Do not contact me in any way. I have no desire to talk to either of you.  Is  that clear enough?  

Btw, the handle "Fraudfather" hasn't been taken up on here yet.  You might want to snatch that up.

Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: dearth on August 08, 2007, 06:50:35 PM
I wonder if Peter has asked God if its ok to break the law and take illegal substances to "supplement" his physique.
Tweeter?
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: tweeter on August 08, 2007, 06:55:00 PM
I wonder if Peter has asked God if its ok to break the law and take illegal substances to "supplement" his physique.
Tweeter?
I'm not Peter nor can I answer personal questions on his behalf. I am just saying that I think he deserved to win.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: H-BOMB on August 08, 2007, 07:50:43 PM
Wait a minute?  I thought I was Peter, not Tweeter!

SquadFather... Egocrusher as now added another handle, ALLDRUGS.  He should have changed his name to AlwaysDrunk instead! This guy has some serious issues.  Epic jealousy of someone that he wished he could be.  The answer to his problems can't be found at the end of a bottle or on the treadmill.

SquadFather... where's Akers brother to slap him when he gets out of line?
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: teebonesteakus on August 13, 2007, 12:36:16 PM
'tbonesteak'  did your tear your left triceps, and what's with your enormous elbows?  you have no chance of winning with arms like that.
left tricept was injured when i play semi pro football. I was spear with a face mask, with cause some deterioration in the low head tricept, close to elbow. Which makes my elbow stick out. everybody have flaws, just as peter doesn't have a back. arms are not a big issue in bodybuild, I dont well with this elbow, and in 2005 north american its was not a problem to land me 2nd in the class, and i was first call out as well, but i crap up and had to go back stage, which thats what landed me second.. so i really dint see that as a big problem. and i will be fixed very soon.  I didn't place well in the USA, due to not my elbow. its because i try stopping my water the morning of the show, since the show was so late, and i never got the water of my back side in time..  Remember every one has flaws,, we are only human, flaw dint stop us from going pro.  a guy with out a back can go pro, or guy with out calf's, one elbow flaw,  cant hurt,
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: dearth on August 13, 2007, 01:14:21 PM
the only thing worse than the judges handing Putnam a win, is Peter posting on this thread about himself not to caring.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Livewire on August 13, 2007, 01:39:53 PM
the only thing worse than the judges handing Putnam a win, is Peter posting on this thread about himself not to caring.


FROM THIS DAY FORWARD, LET IT BE KNOWN.

PUTNAM SHALL BE KNOWN AS PETER PUTZ
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: TooPowerful4u on August 13, 2007, 01:41:48 PM
Alright i cant sit here and watch this anymore without throwin a word in.  This is BODYBUILDING.  There is a number of different criteria, NOT JUST ONE.  The person with the LEAST weak points.  Pete was more balanced.  He flowed better.  He was thicker.  He was more conditioned from the front.  He won more criteria than Auguste.  He lost the ham/glute contest... wow didnt know bodybuilding was all about that nowadays.  If you check out his hams from the SIDE they hung like crazy, did Auguste's?  NOPE.  So Auguste won hams from the BACK, NOT from the side.  Tie in that aspect.  Christ you people do not know bodybuilding....

Now let me all explain to you why he doesnt bother to come here and respond to you people....il put this in words you can all relate to i hope.....

If you were called out of shape or a bad bodybuilder by some fat out of shape guy or a tiny skinny guy.. how much would that really bother you?  If you are called poor by a bum on the street.. that bother you?  Would you even BOTHER to defend yourself?  Of course not, wtf does their opinion MATTER if they obviously have no idea what they are talking about or have any idea what it takes to be where you are? 

Shit just yesterday i was walking out of a food joint with my gf when a fat guy says to his wife loud enough for me to hear it "thats nasty i would never want to look like him".. all i could think of was YOU WISH YOU COULD LOOK LIKE ME AND NOT BE SLOPPY FAT... it was comical.. i laughed loud enough to let him know i heard him and was laughing at him... who do you think came out mad... and who was laughing????
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Pete Nice on August 13, 2007, 07:31:24 PM
Jessica Paxson is hott as sin
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: AllDrugs on August 13, 2007, 09:39:57 PM
Shit just yesterday i was walking out of a food joint with my gf when a fat guy says to his wife loud enough for me to hear it "thats nasty i would never want to look like him".. all i could think of was YOU WISH YOU COULD LOOK LIKE ME AND NOT BE SLOPPY FAT... it was comical.. i laughed loud enough to let him know i heard him and was laughing at him... who do you think came out mad... and who was laughing?

So you honestly believe everyone wants to look just like you?

Damn I've heard that somewhere before...... ::)
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: TooPowerful4u on August 14, 2007, 07:51:29 AM
Shit just yesterday i was walking out of a food joint with my gf when a fat guy says to his wife loud enough for me to hear it "thats nasty i would never want to look like him".. all i could think of was YOU WISH YOU COULD LOOK LIKE ME AND NOT BE SLOPPY FAT... it was comical.. i laughed loud enough to let him know i heard him and was laughing at him... who do you think came out mad... and who was laughing?

So you honestly believe everyone wants to look just like you?

Damn I've heard that somewhere before...... ::)

no... i do not.  but i believe this guy who was easily 50-60lbs overweight would rather look like me than himself!  Also, hate to break it to ya... males see muscle as superior.  I dont get many compliments from women, they think im too big, but from men?  every single day multiple times.  Like it or not, most guys would probably like to look like me or maybe a little smaller but still.... that fatass would trade his gut for my body any day of the week
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: Monster_Everything on August 14, 2007, 07:53:56 AM
no... i do not.  but i believe this guy who was easily 50-60lbs overweight would rather look like me than himself!  Also, hate to break it to ya... males see muscle as superior.  I dont get many compliments from women, they think im too big, but from men?  every single day multiple times.  Like it or not, most guys would probably like to look like me or maybe a little smaller but still.... that fatass would trade his gut for my body any day of the week
hahahah he probably has more money than you ....who cares what he looks like hahah
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: AllDrugs on August 14, 2007, 08:57:26 PM
no... i do not.  but i believe this guy who was easily 50-60lbs overweight would rather look like me than himself!  Also, hate to break it to ya... males see muscle as superior.  I dont get many compliments from women, they think im too big, but from men?  every single day multiple times.  Like it or not, most guys would probably like to look like me or maybe a little smaller but still.... that fatass would trade his gut for my body any day of the week

If you're 5'6 with bleached hair and weigh 230 with a gut 9 months out of the year, I promise you, 95% of the male population of the U.S. would rather look like me than you.
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: tweeter on August 14, 2007, 09:09:47 PM
If you're 5'6 with bleached hair and weigh 230 with a gut 9 months out of the year, I promise you, 95% of the male population of the U.S. would rather look like me than you.
Haha, ok Egocrusher ::)
Title: Re: NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!
Post by: AllDrugs on August 14, 2007, 09:16:11 PM
Reality...look into it.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: tjschoenborn on August 16, 2007, 08:44:40 PM
No! I've always thought that, and always thought to myself "How can a cross-eyed red headed stepchild looking 'tard like Putnam land a hot ass broad like Jessica Paxson?" :-\


Dude Come on! Your just pissed he has her and you don't! Peter is a great guy and Jessica is much than just a "hot ass broad"
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: CQ on August 16, 2007, 09:04:20 PM
I recall Jessica's brief posting here in the girls section. She made quite an impact in her short tenure.
Title: Re: Peter Putnam should not have won his class
Post by: tweeter on August 16, 2007, 09:05:59 PM
I recall Jessica's brief posting here in the girls section. She made quite an impact in her short tenure.
What type of impact?