NPC USA: Peter Putnam should not have won his class!

[jason armstrong]

proof why bb'ing sucks political wise.

Peter and his wife get their pic taken with Joe Weider. putnam gets on FLEX cover.  Don't forget his met-rx contract either!

He should not have won.

Don't care how hard he prayed not EVEN God would award him the class.

look for putnam to win the NAC or Nationals this year and get a pro card no matter what shape he is in..

[pumpher]

This thread is useless without pics! (comparison pics)

[240 is Back]

there are two ways to look at it.

1) The best athlete on the stage should win the weight class, every time.  Period.  This means the best athletes will make it to the professional ranks, and the IFBB shows will be the best possible shows.

2) The athlete who is most marketable - meaning, short term profits for supplement companies with a consumer-friendly big smile to sell - should win the show.  This means the supplement industry - which is absolutely the lifeblood of the bodybuilding industry - will be the strongest (sell the most product to most people) and will grow the most - which will grow the sport the most.

It's a tough call.   Look at Chris Cook.  Many thought he received a gift when he beat wilmore and haley (two guys who eventually became better pros that chris was).  Of course, his smile as the new nationals champ on the cover may have sold more issues than the grille of a less marketable (albeit better physiqued) bodybuilder.  In this case, the sales won out, but the sport lost out, as someone not destined to be a pro became a pro, then washed out.  

I think they keep a safe balance there - they award the best guys most of the time, but they do need a fresh mainstream smile every 12-18 months, and you see the guy a mile away and know that if he comes in decent shape, he's 1) a pro and 2) gonna be on a cover shortly.

[thisiskeith12]

there are two ways to look at it.

1) The best athlete on the stage should win the weight class, every time.  Period.  This means the best athletes will make it to the professional ranks, and the IFBB shows will be the best possible shows.

2) The athlete who is most marketable - meaning, short term profits for supplement companies with a consumer-friendly big smile to sell - should win the show.  This means the supplement industry - which is absolutely the lifeblood of the bodybuilding industry - will be the strongest (sell the most product to most people) and will grow the most - which will grow the sport the most.

It's a tough call.   Look at Chris Cook.  Many thought he received a gift when he beat wilmore and haley (two guys who eventually became better pros that chris was).  Of course, his smile as the new nationals champ on the cover may have sold more issues than the grille of a less marketable (albeit better physiqued) bodybuilder.  In this case, the sales won out, but the sport lost out, as someone not destined to be a pro became a pro, then washed out. 

I think they keep a safe balance there - they award the best guys most of the time, but they do need a fresh mainstream smile every 12-18 months, and you see the guy a mile away and know that if he comes in decent shape, he's 1) a pro and 2) gonna be on a cover shortly.

Yes, but Putnam? He's not carrying that much of a marketable look. But his wife is!!

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Something looks strange about this guy's hair

[BayGBM]

This thread is useless without pics! (comparison pics)

Ditto. A useless thread. 

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Putnam and Auguste

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Putnam and Jose Raymond

[mesmorph78]

fcuk marketable...
the best athlete on stage should win..
how does blonde hair and blue eyes make u a better bber?

marketable is also a relative term..

[240 is Back]

Yes, but Putnam? He's not carrying that much of a marketable look. But his wife is!!

Blonde hair and a big smile?  That's pure gold in terms of moving product.

To illustrrate my point -



Putnam vs. Auguste
Auguste will probably eventually get his pro card - and from looking at the pictures, he has a better waist and legs, way stronger muscle belly shape, and will be a much more dangerous IFBB pro.  In 3 years when they're both pros, Auguste will probably place ahead of Putnam most of the time.  nothing against peter at all - but genetics are genetics and while he did well, Auguste did very well.

Now as far as mag covers - you put both men on the cover of FLEX mag, side by side, in the local WalMart in suburban america - and I'd bet the rent check that Putnam's cover is going to outsell Auguste's cover.  This is due to your buying audience's preferences and familirity and comfort and knowns - nothing about skin color at all - it's just buying behavior on a macro sale.  Same way Denzel would outsell a Pauly Shore cover.  The majority of your suburban readers (the largest group) would prefer the guy they'd prefer to look like.

[240 is Back]

fcuk marketable...
the best athlete on stage should win..
how does blonde hair and blue eyes make u a better bber?

marketable is also a relative term..

blonde hair/blue eyes DO NOT make the better bodybuilder.  But they do make for more magazine and supplement sales.  And the truth is, that is the reason professional bodybuilding exists - to sell products.  Not to aspire for physical perfection.  Just to sell mags and powders.  And the face of a good-looking man will sell more than an average man (nothing against auguste or anyone else).

Denzel would outsell Pauly Shore.  Just like Putnam will outsell Auguste.  people buy what they'd like to look like.  and since MORE of your buying audience will prefer the blonde/blue look, the decision makers at companies will choose accordingly.

Luckily meso - they only give away one gift win every 1-2 years, IMO.  most of the time, the best man does win in NPC nationals and USAs.

[JaggyShortBuff]

Putnam has tiny legs.....

[thisiskeith12]

blonde hair/blue eyes DO NOT make the better bodybuilder.  But they do make for more magazine and supplement sales.  And the truth is, that is the reason professional bodybuilding exists - to sell products.  Not to aspire for physical perfection.  Just to sell mags and powders.  And the face of a good-looking man will sell more than an average man (nothing against auguste or anyone else).

Denzel would outsell Pauly Shore.  Just like Putnam will outsell Auguste.  people buy what they'd like to look like.  and since MORE of your buying audience will prefer the blonde/blue look, the decision makers at companies will choose accordingly.

Luckily meso - they only give away one gift win every 1-2 years, IMO.  most of the time, the best man does win in NPC nationals and USAs.

Am I the only one that thinks Putnam always looks cross-eyed?

I think Auguste would be more marketable, he's got a more clean cut look than Putnam

[corinth]

You couldn't win some local shows with a back this weak.

Al Auguste got screwed plain and simple.

Everyone knew Putnam was going to win the minute he got that FLEX cover.

It's a fcking joke the way some of these shows are judged.

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Am I the only one that thinks Putnam always looks cross-eyed?

I think Auguste would be more marketable, he's got a more clean cut look than Putnam

He lost an eye as a kid.

[240 is Back]

How will that back do on the IFBB pro stage against the likes of Vic Martinez, Cutler, and others?

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Putnam has tiny legs.....

His legs are one of his best bodyparts

[b.c.]

Bodybuilding is just not marketable plain and simple.  The only person who was able to parlay bodybuilding into greatness was Arnold.  Marketing is just an excuse for the better guy losing.  Bodybuilding will always be an underground following.  Normal people just dont give a crap how much protein and how to increase your bench press in 8 weeks type info.  Glad your making money though 240...

[JaggyShortBuff]

How will that back do on the IFBB pro stage against the likes of Vic Martinez, Cutler, and others?

They will give him a ribbon that says "Everybody Is A Winner Today" eventhough he won't place anywhere but last...

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How will that back do on the IFBB pro stage against the likes of Vic Martinez, Cutler, and others?

Obviously not very good. I know he focused on bring up his back this offseason, but he seems to just suffer in the genetics department when it comes to his back.

[JaggyShortBuff]

His legs are one of his best bodyparts

Can't wait to see him show those toothpics off on an IFBB stage....

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Here is a better pic that shows him next to Auguste. Auguste doesn't know how to hit the pose right.

[240 is Back]

Bodybuilding is just not marketable plain and simple.  The only person who was able to parlay bodybuilding into greatness was Arnold.  Marketing is just an excuse for the better guy losing.  Bodybuilding will always be an underground following.  Normal people just dont give a crap how much protein and how to increase your bench press in 8 weeks type info.  Glad your making money though 240...

It's not marketable on a large-scale basis (tv dollars like you see with NFL or MLB), but I think it is fairly successful, for what it is (a male beauty pageant).  You can get monthly muscle mags in different flavors at any grocery store in America.  That alone is huge.  And the supplements?  Consumers in America buy $400 million worth of creatine every year.    That's mindboggling.  

[YoungBlood]

Am I the only one that thinks Putnam always looks cross-eyed?

No! I've always thought that, and always thought to myself "How can a cross-eyed red headed stepchild looking 'tard like Putnam land a hot ass broad like Jessica Paxson?"

[tweeter]

No! I've always thought that, and always thought to myself "How can a cross-eyed red headed stepchild looking 'tard like Putnam land a hot ass broad like Jessica Paxson?"

Like I said earlier, he lost an eye as a kid. As I understand it, he was shot in a random drive by shooting while playing out in his front yard. One of his eyes is fake.