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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: D.L. 5 on July 29, 2007, 11:49:11 PM
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i wanted to know the ifbb's reaction to that kai greene gay porn shit. u may have answered it before, but i just saw the photo stills and seriously man i know u want bodybuilding to move forward and i think this stuff looks bad for the sport.
so i wanted to know firstly ur opinion as a pro, as a fan, as an athlete rep.
and also if the ifbb officials or body have seen this and their standing on it.
thank you for ur time.
chickamania is still running wild...call the hotline
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The funny thing is, it's been asked before.
Bob Chicardillo will just side-step it anyways.......he'll say something like, "it's not his call". ::)
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go ahead...ask your question
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I don't know his question but I have one. When is bbing.com going to make/sell Polo shirts for the general public?
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D.L.5 =Brutal obsession with Kai
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go ahead...ask your question
why is flex so obsessed with peter putnam?
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D.L.5 =Brutal obsession with Kai
It's a valid question that's on many people's minds regarding IFBB Rules and Code of Conduct.
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It's a valid question that's on many people's minds regarding IFBB Rules and Code of Conduct.
As much as i disagree with having sex with fruit, or any food for that matter, im pretty sure he didn't break any laws.
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D.L.5 =Brutal obsession with Kai
yes, well first i was shocked. secondly i wanted chick's opinion considering his position and opinions on pro bb, and then the cherry on the sundae is that someone deletes my thread!!!!!!!!!!!!
and fourthly, I CAN NEVER EAT GRAPEFRUIT AGAIN!
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As much as i disagree with having sex with fruit, or any food for that matter, im pretty sure he didn't break any laws.
Federal or State laws? No.
IFBB Rules and Code of Conduct? Yes.
Kai seems like a genuinely nice person, but as Ben Weider says "Rules are rules". Suspending Kai will instill some credibility to the Lee Priest suspension and not contradict it by ignoring Kai's past conduct, which is what it appears as now.
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I guess im not familiar with the IFBB's code of conduct.
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hey chick,
i wanted to know the ifbb's reaction to that kai greene gay porn shit. u may have answered it before, but i just saw the photo stills and seriously man i know u want bodybuilding to move forward and i think this stuff looks bad for the sport.
so i wanted to know firstly ur opinion as a pro, as a fan, as an athlete rep.
and also if the ifbb officials or body have seen this and their standing on it.
thank you for ur time.
chickamania is still running wild...call the hotline
1.) IFBB's reaction-
none that I know of....obviously, they cant control what people do in their spare time...they do have a "code of conduct" which is basically a guideline for how they believe you should conduct yourself...but unless they wanted to challenge the ACLU and other various orgs.....it is what it is.
2.) My opinion-
Personally, I could care less what people do on their own time....from a professional standpoint, some of these athletes are lucky I aint calling the shots, because I would be far more strict on anything remotely involving porn, pics, wrestling, schmo's, etc....no other sport would (or does) tolerate such things, we should be no different.
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I guess im not familiar with the IFBB's code of conduct.
It seems to be a document that only counts when they want to fuck with someone. But that's just my humble opinion - who knows what really goes on behind the scenes (I'm not going to pretend I do).
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American Idol didn't run into any ACLU problems when they got rid of that girl 2 years ago for having porn pictures of her on the internet.
The ACLU hasn't crawled over the NFL for suspending Michael Vick for allegedly being involved in a dog fighting ring.
And do you really think the ACLU or some other various organization would jump on the chance to represent Kai Greene? A bodybuilder who outside of the industry has virtually no symbolism?
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2.) My opinion-
Personally, I could care less what people do on their own time....from a professional standpoint, some of these athletes are lucky I aint calling the shots, because I would be far more strict on anything remotely involving porn, pics, wrestling, schmo's, etc....no other sport would (or does) tolerate such things, we should be no different.
I agree with you. thanks for answering my question.
By the way, you were on Australian national tv about a month ago! they had that documentary about the guy who tries testosterone and growth hormone to lose weight.
I am watching TV and i'm like 'THATS BOB CHICK!" well done on that was good to see ya on the silver screen. you are still massed out!
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I agree with you. thanks for answering my question.
By the way, you were on Australian national tv about a month ago! they had that documentary about the guy who tries testosterone and growth hormone to lose weight.
I am watching TV and i'm like 'THATS BOB CHICK!" well done on that was good to see ya on the silver screen. you are still massed out!
i love the part where Bob tells the guy whom is taking like 40 different pills a day that he's a pro bb'er and he doesn't take anywhere near that many.
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1.) IFBB's reaction-
none that I know of....obviously, they cant control what people do in their spare time...they do have a "code of conduct" which is basically a guideline for how they believe you should conduct yourself...but unless they wanted to challenge the ACLU and other various orgs.....it is what it is.
2.) My opinion-
Personally, I could care less what people do on their own time....from a professional standpoint, some of these athletes are lucky I aint calling the shots, because I would be far more strict on anything remotely involving porn, pics, wrestling, schmo's, etc....no other sport would (or does) tolerate such things, we should be no different.
do you think that if prize money was higher as well as endorsements and just all around guranteed money for the athletes, maybe they woudnt have to resort to Gay for pay or porn shit for extra income...I have seen bodybuilders (successful ones), and its not like they have the time to get full time jobs....You have carved a nitch for yourself but you are one of many...I hate that 2nd tier guys have to go all gay for pay or selling _______(you fill in the blank) just to live a comfortable lifestyle...But i think there needs to be some way to gurantee more money. A union that put pressure on supplement companies (as far as a minimum contract amount) might be start. i know its easier said than done, maybe the ifbb could step in .
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i love the part where Bob tells the guy whom is taking like 40 different pills a day that he's a pro bb'er and he doesn't take anywhere near that many.
the dude on that show was a complete idiot. if he really wanted to get in shape he could have used abit of good ol' elbow grease and some discipline.
i laughed when he got all serious and lost his fertility...talk about over-dramatising an already silly situation.
that dude didnt deserve a workout with chickamania!
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do you think that if prize money was higher as well as endorsements and just all around guranteed money for the athletes, maybe they woudnt have to resort to Gay for pay or porn shit for extra income...I have seen bodybuilders (successful ones), and its not like they have the time to get full time jobs....You have carved a nitch for yourself but you are one of many...I hate that 2nd tier guys have to go all gay for pay or selling _______(you fill in the blank) just to live a comfortable lifestyle...But i think there needs to be some way to gurantee more money. A union that put pressure on supplement companies (as far as a minimum contract amount) might be start. i know its easier said than done, maybe the ifbb could step in .
No one "has" to resort to G4P, or nude shit, or schmo wrestling. etc....they do it by choice.
A JOB might be a good answer....there is plenty of time to do both, I did it, as have many others while never resorting to anything weird....
Make no mistake...no one is "forced" to do anything...that's a copout.
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No one "has" to resort to G4P, or nude shit, or schmo wrestling. etc....they do it by choice.
A JOB might be a good answer....there is plenty of time to do both, I did it, as have many others while never resorting to anything weird....
Make no mistake...no one is "forced" to do anything...that's a copout.
I agree, self-respect is enough to stop most from resorting to this.
I mean they could do personal-training and /or a real job.
no one is forced, and also supplement companies can't legally nor should they be forced to pay a minimum to athletes , i think the sport itself has to find a way to generate the money. and from what chick told me in the past, the key to this is tv contracts.
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No one "has" to resort to G4P, or nude shit, or schmo wrestling. etc....they do it by choice.
A JOB might be a good answer....there is plenty of time to do both, I did it, as have many others while never resorting to anything weird....
Make no mistake...no one is "forced" to do anything...that's a copout.
so you think if kai was guranteed maybe 150k per year he would be screwing grapefruits.
Its like if yall made the money you deserved, there would be zero exuse to do homo shit...I think most of the guys who do it are using their bodies to make money plain and simple...and if they cant get it on the stage theyll do it the homo way...
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so you think if kai was guranteed maybe 150k per year he would be screwing grapefruits.
lol that was so funny to read.
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No one "has" to resort to G4P, or nude shit, or schmo wrestling. etc....they do it by choice.
A JOB might be a good answer....there is plenty of time to do both, I did it, as have many others while never resorting to anything weird....
Make no mistake...no one is "forced" to do anything...that's a copout.
Well said.
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make no mistake...im not for this either...it makes the sport (yes i called it a sport) i love very cheap and unclassy....
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make no mistake...im not for this either...it makes the sport (yes i called it a sport) i love very cheap and unclassy....
thats why i started this thread and asked chick!
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do you think that if prize money was higher as well as endorsements and just all around guranteed money for the athletes, maybe they woudnt have to resort to Gay for pay or porn shit for extra income...I have seen bodybuilders (successful ones), and its not like they have the time to get full time jobs....You have carved a nitch for yourself but you are one of many...I hate that 2nd tier guys have to go all gay for pay or selling _______(you fill in the blank) just to live a comfortable lifestyle...But i think there needs to be some way to gurantee more money. A union that put pressure on supplement companies (as far as a minimum contract amount) might be start. i know its easier said than done, maybe the ifbb could step in .
Where's the money going to come from?
Which athletes are you referring to?
NO ONE is forced into the bbing lifestyle.
Who can't train, eat and hold down a real job? ::)
NO ONE has to resort to g4p.
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Where's the money going to come from?
Which athletes are you referring to?
NO ONE is forced into the bbing lifestyle.
Who can't train, eat and hold down a real job? ::)
NO ONE has to resort to g4p.
Where's the money going to come from?
don’t have the answer to where the money comes from. Im sure shows don’t generate enough money to pay the athletes big like that…That’s why I said some kind of union maybe to lean on the Supplement Companies for some kind of minimum contract number…or maybe an IFBB agent who goes to bat and negotiates supplement contracts for prosWhich athletes are you referring to?
In which statement?
NO ONE is forced into the bbing lifestyle.
I know no one is forced, no one Is forced to do anything. But if they do generate money they should be compensated point blank
Who can't train, eat and hold down a real job? ::)
You think these guys can work 40 plus hours per week, train and eat the necessary stuff to become a top level pro? If so you need to pass it on to kai. As for me, I think that its sad that if you don’t have an excellent business mind or you don’t win the huge shows, you cant really do the sport you love.
NO ONE has to resort to g4p.
Obviously there is a problem because many pros resort to off the wall crap to generate extra income. Its selling drugs, g4p and everything in-between, I think the problem is solved if they have something to really loose…and that something would be money…if money was guaranteed then they would be cautious of doing that stuff. The sport needs to be totally revamped.
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they do not "resort" to g4p, they simply like it, don't kid yourself, bb is full of homos....
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So what's the actual story here? What the shit is gay for pay, anyway? Did he get caught stripping or was he actually caught in the act with some dude? Someone give a little background.
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So what's the actual story here? What the shit is gay for pay, anyway? Did he get caught stripping or was he actually caught in the act with some dude? Someone give a little background.
He has a couple of videos :-X online of him doing some less than savory acts...one which includes him using a grapefriut as a cock depository.. :-X :-X
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they do not "resort" to g4p, they simply like it, don't kid yourself, bb is full of homos....
You know too much. ::)
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There is no such thing as G4P...you either do or you don't.
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He has a couple of videos :-X online of him doing some less than savory acts...one which includes him using a grapefriut as a cock depository.. :-X :-X
Ugh, that's pretty creepy. That sort of reminds me of that video that's been circulating around on joke sites like Ebaum's of that guy who looks like Borat with his home-made masturbation machine. ??? But then again, sticking your Johnson into a grapefruit in what is undoubtedly a cheap-ass home production doesn't exactly sound like something that would bring him the big bucks. I think that he's probably doing it because he has some exhibition fetish, and like an idiot, didn't think it was going to become publically known.
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1.) IFBB's reaction-
....obviously, they cant control what people do in their spare time...
2.) My opinion-
Personally, I could care less what people do on their own time...
So if someone wanted to, say.... do a PDI show one weekend in "their spare time", both you and the IFBB are okay with it? ;D ;D :D
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If other pro's can get by without doing g4p, porn, etc, then why is it so rampant among active IFBB Pro's? And WHY isn't anything being done about it when it's clearly AGAINST the Code of Conduct?
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There is no such thing as G4P...you either do or you don't.
yeah...so let me ask you something...say there was a bodybuilder, Lets just say he is maybe a very strong bodybuilder…. maybe from the south like texas or something.… and he is on tape in some weird white unitard thong number knowingly dancing around for known homos…would you call him a homo, or would you say he is just doing it for the money
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If other pro's can get by without doing g4p, porn, etc, then why is it so rampant among active IFBB Pro's? And WHY isn't anything being done about it when it's clearly AGAINST the Code of Conduct?
thats what im saying
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thats what im saying
Because there is no disciplinary action set forth about it. The least they could do is suspend Kai for 6 months. He'd still be able to compete next March at the Arnold.
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2.) My opinion-
Personally, I could care less what people do on their own time....from a professional standpoint, some of these athletes are lucky I aint calling the shots, because I would be far more strict on anything remotely involving porn, pics, wrestling, schmo's, etc....no other sport would (or does) tolerate such things, we should be no different.
Bump for truth! ;)
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1.) IFBB's reaction-
none that I know of....obviously, they cant control what people do in their spare time...they do have a "code of conduct" which is basically a guideline for how they believe you should conduct yourself...but unless they wanted to challenge the ACLU and other various orgs.....it is what it is.
2.) My opinion-
Personally, I could care less what people do on their own time....from a professional standpoint, some of these athletes are lucky I aint calling the shots, because I would be far more strict on anything remotely involving porn, pics, wrestling, schmo's, etc....no other sport would (or does) tolerate such things, we should be no different.
finally we get a straight answer. and a good one at that!!! i agree with Chick on what he said 100%.
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If other pro's can get by without doing g4p, porn, etc, then why is it so rampant among active IFBB Pro's? And WHY isn't anything being done about it when it's clearly AGAINST the Code of Conduct?
It's not "rampant" amongst IFBB pro's...it few, very few....look at a list of the top 25-30 pro's, how many have actually done anything?
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It's not "rampant" amongst IFBB pro's...it few, very few....look at a list of the top 25-30 pro's, how many have actually done anything?
exactly
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why is flex so obsessed with peter putnam?
I so was thinking the same thing ???
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At the NPC USAs, I spoke to Kai, and did ask him about the grapefruit act and other questions.
Kai himself is extremely well spoken, and he signed with Kemistry/Pinnacle, as he was in their booth all day Saturday and Sunday. Kai himself is married, his wife was with him when he won the 2007 Colorado Pro show.
Since he has gained more fame, and thus, more endorsement contracts, he is not an exotic dancer anymore, and that time has passed. But when you are a struggling competitor, making $1,500 a weekend for bacherlorette parties isnt bad. The Grapefruit was his gimmick, made the girls want more, and many exotic dancers have their own special gimmick. He isnt ashamed, but that was a phase in his life.
Kai has a tremendous career in bodybuilding ahead of him, his next competition is the 2008 Arnold Classic, where he stands to have a very good chance to make the top five.
So yes, via the internet, you can view his past exploits, but no - he is done with that.
If you go to the Olympia expo, go up to Kai, and you will see that he is humble, a great speaker, and nice to talk to, and will be an asset to the sport.
But lets go over something - many male exotic dangers dont do gay porn - get over it.
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At the NPC USAs, I spoke to Kai, and did ask him about the grapefruit act and other questions.
Kai himself is extremely well spoken, and he signed with Kemistry/Pinnacle, as he was in their booth all day Saturday and Sunday. Kai himself is married, his wife was with him when he won the 2007 Colorado Pro show.
Since he has gained more fame, and thus, more endorsement contracts, he is not an exotic dancer anymore, and that time has passed. But when you are a struggling competitor, making $1,500 a weekend for bacherlorette parties isnt bad. The Grapefruit was his gimmick, made the girls want more, and many exotic dancers have their own special gimmick. He isnt ashamed, but that was a phase in his life.
Kai has a tremendous career in bodybuilding ahead of him, his next competition is the 2008 Arnold Classic, where he stands to have a very good chance to make the top five.
So yes, via the internet, you can view his past exploits, but no - he is done with that.
If you go to the Olympia expo, go up to Kai, and you will see that he is humble, a great speaker, and nice to talk to, and will be an asset to the sport.
But lets go over something - many male exotic dangers dont do gay porn - get over it.
ha ha i cant believe you asked him about the fruit incident
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married hahaha like that stops a pervert
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1.) IFBB's reaction-
none that I know of....obviously, they cant control what people do in their spare time...they do have a "code of conduct" which is basically a guideline for how they believe you should conduct yourself...but unless they wanted to challenge the ACLU and other various orgs.....it is what it is.
2.) My opinion-
Personally, I could care less what people do on their own time....from a professional standpoint, some of these athletes are lucky I aint calling the shots, because I would be far more strict on anything remotely involving porn, pics, wrestling, schmo's, etc....no other sport would (or does) tolerate such things, we should be no different.
THEN TELL THWE IFBB TO FOLLOW THIER RULES AND CODE OF CONDUCT........EASY FIX......THEY HAVE THE BOOK TELL THEM TO FOLLOW IT...FOR ALL NOT JUST ME....
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THEN TELL THWE IFBB TO FOLLOW THIER RULES AND CODE OF CONDUCT........EASY FIX......THEY HAVE THE BOOK TELL THEM TO FOLLOW IT...FOR ALL NOT JUST ME....
Lee, the difference between you and Kai are that you've been asking for it for a long time. Called Joe Weider an old coot, said on the cover Fuck the Olympia with your middle finger and basically acted like some asshole
You wanted to be a rebel and you got what you want. Deal with it.
Kai did what he had to do to survive because he was basically homeless and had no money. Two years ago, all he had was a cooler full a food and basically on the streets doing a show. Now that he's got a contract, he doesn't do it anymore. Big difference
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seems sort of 1 sided.using the rules to weed out whom you don't want and to be ignored or overlooked when it involves a person of interest or friend.
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1.) IFBB's reaction-
none that I know of....obviously, they cant control what people do in their spare time...they do have a "code of conduct" which is basically a guideline for how they believe you should conduct yourself...but unless they wanted to challenge the ACLU and other various orgs.....it is what it is.
what is that chick, a selectively enforced farce?
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what is that chick, a selectively enforced farce?
no...it's an explanation.
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seems sort of 1 sided.using the rules to weed out whom you don't want and to be ignored or overlooked when it involves a person of interest or friend.
No one has ever been "weeded out" for a violation of the COC....
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no...it's an explanation.
Chick,
I gotta say, all of the work you may be doing to promote the sport takes a big step back when you have a guy like Kai Green jamming his cock into citrus and other men... :-[
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"Who Needs Blue Stars When You Got A Trophy!" - Vince G
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Chick,
I gotta say, all of the work you may be doing to promote the sport takes a big step back when you have a guy like Kai Green jamming his cock into citrus and other men... :-[
As Ron pointed out...thats in the past for Kai Greene.
All I can do is my best to make sufficient changes to make it a more profitable and viable business for future pro's....
Besides...one bad grapefruit dont spoil the whole bunch...right? ;D
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that's right chick
the man expresses himself with a grapefruit. big fuckin deal.
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OH GIVE ME A BREAK HE DID IT ...............GET THE FUCK OVER IT !
THE SAME SITE HE WORKED FOR WWW.MUSCLEWEB.COM
I WORKED FOR
MARK DUGGALE
PACO BAUTISTA
RODNEY ST CLOUD
SILVIO SAMUEL
JOHHNY JACKSON
ERICK BUAI
HOW COME YOU AINT TALKING SHIT ABOUT THEM???
THE FUCK IS GAY FOR PAY ANYWAY?? ITS CALLED POSING IN FRONT OF A CAMERA , WHO CARES IF GAY GUYS BUY IT. WHO YOU THINK IS BUYIGN THE TICKETS TO THE OLYMPIA ???? A LOT OF GAY MEN!!
STOP BEING SO ANTI GAY A LOT OF BODYBUILDING ,FITNESS,MODELING IS RAN BY THE GAY COMMUNITY
GET OVER IT !
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At the NPC USAs, I spoke to Kai, and did ask him about the grapefruit act and other questions...
... But when you are a struggling competitor, making $1,500 a weekend for bacherlorette parties isnt bad. The Grapefruit was his gimmick, made the girls guys want more, and many exotic dancers have their own special gimmick. He isnt ashamed, but that was a phase in his life.
fixed.
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THE SAME SITE HE WORKED FOR WWW.MUSCLEWEB.COM
I WORKED FOR
I rest my case. ::)
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johnyn cochranne said 'if the glove doesn't fit u must acquit'
i say "he fucked the fruit"
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Besides...one bad grapefruit dont spoil the whole bunch...right? ;D
nice flippant attitude about a disgusting deviant sexual act.
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As Ron pointed out...thats in the past for Kai Greene.
All I can do is my best to make sufficient changes to make it a more profitable and viable business for future pro's....
Besides...one bad grapefruit dont spoil the whole bunch...right? ;D
YO CHICK FOR REAL ......
WHATS THE DIFFERENCE POSING INFRONT OF A CAMERA FOR A WEBSITE THAT PRETAINS TO THE GAY AUDIENCE THEN POSIGN AT A COMPETITION IN A BODYBUILDIGN SHOW???
ITS THE SAME FUCKING CRAP!
EVERYONE IS SO ANTI GAY ....... I MEAN COME ON WHO IS PAYING FOR THESE TICKETS ,PAYIGN FOR MEMBERSHIPS TO WEBSITES ,BUYING THE TRAINING VIDEOS ETC
GAYSSSSSSSSSSSSS IM GAY FRIENDLY THATS WHY I MAKE $$$ AND NO IM NOT GAY IM JSUT POLITE TO THE GAY COMMUNITY AND YES I LOVE WOMEN AND HAVE A GIRL DOSENT MAKE ME GAY !!!
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Being Homosexual so far is not a crime so what if he did some skin flicks hardly grounds for being kicked out.
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nice flippant attitude about a disgusting deviant sexual act.
GIVE ME A BREAK! GET OUT OF THE CLOSET. YOUR THE ONE INFATUATED WITH MEN ON STAGE...................
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YO CHICK FOR REAL ......
WHATS THE DIFFERENCE POSING INFRONT OF A CAMERA FOR A WEBSITE THAT PRETAINS TO THE GAY AUDIENCE THEN POSIGN AT A COMPETITION IN A BODYBUILDIGN SHOW???
ITS THE SAME FUCKING CRAP!
EVERYONE IS SO ANTI GAY ....... I MEAN COME ON WHO IS PAYING FOR THESE TICKETS ,PAYIGN FOR MEMBERSHIPS TO WEBSITES ,BUYING THE TRAINING VIDEOS ETC
GAYSSSSSSSSSSSSS IM GAY FRIENDLY THATS WHY I MAKE $$$ AND NO IM NOT GAY IM JSUT POLITE TO THE GAY COMMUNITY AND YES I LOVE WOMEN AND HAVE A GIRL DOSENT MAKE ME GAY !!!
No, what makes you gay is accepting money from men in exchange for dancing in a thong and letting them pet you and shove dollars in your panties.
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Do you guys think the problem is that A) it's porn, or that B) it may be gay material, or C) both?
If he doesn't do it anymore, what's the problem?
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GIVE ME A BREAK! GET OUT OF THE CLOSET. YOUR THE ONE INFATUATED WITH MEN ON STAGE...................
derek, the closet cases are the worst!
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YO CHICK FOR REAL ......
WHATS THE DIFFERENCE POSING INFRONT OF A CAMERA FOR A WEBSITE THAT PRETAINS TO THE GAY AUDIENCE THEN POSIGN AT A COMPETITION IN A BODYBUILDIGN SHOW???
ITS THE SAME FUCKING CRAP!
EVERYONE IS SO ANTI GAY ....... I MEAN COME ON WHO IS PAYING FOR THESE TICKETS ,PAYIGN FOR MEMBERSHIPS TO WEBSITES ,BUYING THE TRAINING VIDEOS ETC
GAYSSSSSSSSSSSSS IM GAY FRIENDLY THATS WHY I MAKE $$$ AND NO IM NOT GAY IM JSUT POLITE TO THE GAY COMMUNITY AND YES I LOVE WOMEN AND HAVE A GIRL DOSENT MAKE ME GAY !!!
Big difference....
As a professional BB, I compete (and pose) for legitimate pro BB related business....competition, magazines, etc....I dont control who goes to shows, or who purchases photo's, DVD's, or supplements for that matter.
Competitions are attended by a huge cross section of the bodybuilding community...men, women, kids, fans of all kinds, ages, ethniticies...both gay and straight alike.
If you choose to appeal to the gay community, thats your choice....
I've been to about as many shows (amateur and pro ) as anyone....I have yet to see an overwhelming amount of gays at any one of them....I see about the same % as anything else I attend (not BB related)...10%.
The Arnold, Olympia, Europa, NPC USA, Nationals, expos, etc.....same as usual...10%.
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Big difference....
As a professional BB, I compete (and pose) for legitimate pro BB related business....competition, magazines, etc....I dont control who goes to shows, or who purchases photo's, DVD's, or supplements for that matter.
Competitions are attended by a huge cross section of the bodybuilding community...men, women, kids, fans of all kinds, ages, ethniticies...both gay and straight alike.
If you choose to appeal to the gay community, thats your choice....
I've been to about as many shows (amateur and pro ) as anyone....I have yet to see an overwhelming amount of gays at any one of them....I see about the same % as anything else I attend (not BB related)...10%.
The Arnold, Olympia, Europa, NPC USA, Nationals, expos, etc.....same as usual...10%.
So, Bob, you're saying that unlike Derek, you never "posed" on the Seatea gay cruises around new york? (www.seatea.com)
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhh.....no.
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....no.
lol
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So, Bob, you're saying that unlike Derek, you never "posed" on the Seatea gay cruises around new york? (www.seatea.com)
oh wow, havent heard that song in years! thanks! :D
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OH GIVE ME A BREAK WHAT YOU HAVE GAYDAR????? AND YOU KNOW WHO IS GAY IN THE AUDIENCE ETC ????
COME ON BOB, CUT THE SHIT
MAN I CAN WHIP OUT SOME STORIES FROM MY GAY SOURCES........
STOP PLAYING THE BLIND CARD....
WHO YOU THINK IS ON HERE 40% TO 50% OF THE MEMBERS TALKING SHIT TRYING TO GET THE BODYBULDERS PISSED OFF. ITS A FETISH FOR THEM, A FANTASY. AND YOU TALK TO THEM TO. YOU FELL INTO THERE TRAP TO....
COME ON BOB YOUR MAD SMART, AND I GIVE YOU PROPS BUT NOT WITH ME BRO! DONT PLAY THE WHOLE ITS A BUSINESS BLA BLA
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1.) IFBB's reaction-
none that I know of....obviously, they cant control what people do in their spare time...they do have a "code of conduct" which is basically a guideline for how they believe you should conduct yourself...but unless they wanted to challenge the ACLU and other various orgs.....it is what it is.
bob, if the ifbb were to put in all bodybuilders pro contract that they were prohibited from doing gay porn while in the ifbb; and that anyone caught violating that rule would be subject to dismissal and or fines...they could easily stop bodybuilders from doign that. sure; i do believe the ACLU might try to take you to court on that one....but that is not a case they could win. private organizations have the right to discriminate in any fashion they choose. just like the boy scouts can discriminate gays.
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Is the problem just gay porn? or porn in general?
If you threw in some hot fitness chicks would it be ok?
Or in the case of the IFBB some midget porn? :P
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OH GIVE ME A BREAK WHAT YOU HAVE GAYDAR????? AND YOU KNOW WHO IS GAY IN THE AUDIENCE ETC ????
COME ON BOB, CUT THE SHIT
MAN I CAN WHIP OUT SOME STORIES FROM MY GAY SOURCES........
STOP PLAYING THE BLIND CARD....
WHO YOU THINK IS ON HERE 40% TO 50% OF THE MEMBERS TALKING SHIT TRYING TO GET THE BODYBULDERS PISSED OFF. ITS A FETISH FOR THEM, A FANTASY. AND YOU TALK TO THEM TO. YOU FELL INTO THERE TRAP TO....
COME ON BOB YOUR MAD SMART, AND I GIVE YOU PROPS BUT NOT WITH ME BRO! DONT PLAY THE WHOLE ITS A BUSINESS BLA BLA
Bro....please...anyone with two eyes can see whose at shows. You don have to have "Gaydar"..just common sense.
Were not talking about the boards...you asked a question, I gave you my answer and opinion.
Not sure what "stories" you have....but I can assure you none of them have my name attached to them...
It is a business....for me at least. What you choose to do is YOUR choice..I dont pass any judgement either way.
to each his own...
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nice flippant attitude about a disgusting deviant sexual act.
Ah... not funny when there is a grapefruit involved, but in a movie when apple pie is involved, it makes $150 million. Get over it, but sticking it in someting doesnt automatically make you gay. Jeez.
OH GIVE ME A BREAK WHAT YOU HAVE GAYDAR?? AND YOU KNOW WHO IS GAY IN THE AUDIENCE ETC ?
Well, considering that a tremendous amount of the audience was a mixture of fans and famly, I tend to agree with Bob on this one. Of course, there are many from the gay community, as it is quite appealing, but it is a small aspect, much smaller than many who have not gone to an expo or show think.
Yes, as Derek said, it can be a business, appealing to the gay community without being gay in the special posing videos, and some people don't care. But of course, there are many who are bothered by it, especially if you are conservative. Hence the myriad attitudes on the boards.
private organizations have the right to discriminate in any fashion they choose.
Ah, no they can't. and once again, there is a difference between posing on video and gay porn.
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Ah... not funny when there is a grapefruit involved, but in a movie when apple pie is involved, it makes $150 million. Get over it, but sticking it in something doesnt automatically make you gay. Jeez.
Good point Ron...and of course it depends on whether the Grapefruit in question was male or female.
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Yes, as Derek said, it can be a business, appealing to the gay community without being gay in the special posing videos,
Nope, Ron, nothing gay about this at all ::):
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=161046.0;attach=184331;image)
This isn't gay either, right? ::)
(http://www.seatea.com/images/pictures/11.jpg)
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(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r133/QuakerChewy5302/pot.jpg)
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private organizations have the right to discriminate in any fashion they choose.
Ah, no they can't.
Maybe in California. Here in Texas you can discrminate against fags all you want. They're not a protected class here.
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Ah... not funny when there is a grapefruit involved, but in a movie when apple pie is involved, it makes $150 million. Get over it, but sticking it in someting doesnt automatically make you gay. Jeez.
Well, considering that a tremendous amount of the audience was a mixture of fans and famly, I tend to agree with Bob on this one. Of course, there are many from the gay community, as it is quite appealing, but it is a small aspect, much smaller than many who have not gone to an expo or show think.
Yes, as Derek said, it can be a business, appealing to the gay community without being gay in the special posing videos, and some people don't care. But of course, there are many who are bothered by it, especially if you are conservative. Hence the myriad attitudes on the boards.
Ah, no they can't. and once again, there is a difference between posing on video and gay porn.
There is also a difference between doing it as a PRO and just because you enjoy it....
I could care less what any non-pro does....I would get rid of all of it (male and female) in the IFBB, as I believe it has no place in pro sports.
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You, I and many others may not like it, or agree with what they are doing, but that doesnt mean that they are gay. There is a difference. If those pictures were pandering to female bachelorette parties, is there really a difference?
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Ah... not funny when there is a grapefruit involved, but in a movie when apple pie is involved, it makes $150 million. Get over it, but sticking it in someting doesnt automatically make you gay. Jeez.
Well, considering that a tremendous amount of the audience was a mixture of fans and famly, I tend to agree with Bob on this one. Of course, there are many from the gay community, as it is quite appealing, but it is a small aspect, much smaller than many who have not gone to an expo or show think.
Yes, as Derek said, it can be a business, appealing to the gay community without being gay in the special posing videos, and some people don't care. But of course, there are many who are bothered by it, especially if you are conservative. Hence the myriad attitudes on the boards.
Ah, no they can't. and once again, there is a difference between posing on video and gay porn.
many poster here either live in remote villages or either don't get out of the house much. :)
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I dont really care if is gay, gay4 pay, schmo shit...whatever...If it's in bad taste, it's in bad taste..PERIOD.
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Lee, the difference between you and Kai are that you've been asking for it for a long time. Called Joe Weider an old coot, said on the cover Fuck the Olympia with your middle finger and basically acted like some asshole
You wanted to be a rebel and you got what you want. Deal with it.
Kai did what he had to do to survive because he was basically homeless and had no money. Two years ago, all he had was a cooler full a food and basically on the streets doing a show. Now that he's got a contract, he doesn't do it anymore. Big difference
OH PLEASE.....GOD YOUR STILL A DIP SHIT..........SOMETHINGS WILL NEVER CHANGE :(
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Ah, no they can't. and once again, there is a difference between posing on video and gay porn.
yes they can Ron. please dont argue with me. i know what im talking about.
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Ron, props for bringing up the grapefruit question. And props to kai for being so clear and honest about it.
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I dont really care if is gay, gay4 pay, schmo shit...whatever...If it's in bad taste, it's in bad taste..PERIOD.
i agree.
ps- we need the priest back in the ifbb. it is essential.
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i agree.
ps- we need the priest back in the ifbb. it is essential.
Thats up to Lee....
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So, Bob, you're saying that unlike Derek, you never "posed" on the Seatea gay cruises around new york? (www.seatea.com)
He just does "gay-4-art" or "gay-4-charity"....
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He just does "gay-4-art" or "gay-4-charity"....
...and I see it's part of your extensive collection...thanks for the support!
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...and I see it's part of your extensive collection...thanks for the support!
the army pic looks crazy. jesus christ. double bazooka arm mass.
"CHICKAMANIA IS STILL RUNNING WILD...CALL THE HOTLINE HATERS"
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derek anthony actually is gay. i've heard from numerous sources both online and in real life that he has had sex with many dudes for money. i have a longer version of one story i could share.
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You, I and many others may not like it, or agree with what they are doing, but that doesnt mean that they are gay. There is a difference. If those pictures were pandering to female bachelorette parties, is there really a difference?
Ron, Kai stripped at the Faultline, a gay bar in Los Angeles, on May 6 2006. I was there. There is video of it at jimmyzproductions.com.
Back in 2000 or so, Kai had an ad for escort/massage in HX, the weekly gay bar rag in New York City.
(http://jimmyzproductions.com/showpics/bbjam18_web.jpg)
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YO CHICK FOR REAL ......
WHATS THE DIFFERENCE POSING INFRONT OF A CAMERA FOR A WEBSITE THAT PRETAINS TO THE GAY AUDIENCE THEN POSIGN AT A COMPETITION IN A BODYBUILDIGN SHOW???
ITS THE SAME FUCKING CRAP!
EVERYONE IS SO ANTI GAY ....... I MEAN COME ON WHO IS PAYING FOR THESE TICKETS ,PAYIGN FOR MEMBERSHIPS TO WEBSITES ,BUYING THE TRAINING VIDEOS ETC
GAYSSSSSSSSSSSSS IM GAY FRIENDLY THATS WHY I MAKE $$$ AND NO IM NOT GAY IM JSUT POLITE TO THE GAY COMMUNITY AND YES I LOVE WOMEN AND HAVE A GIRL DOSENT MAKE ME GAY !!!
This has to be a gimmick!!
He's right, DA is finally right on something.
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This has to be a gimmick!!
He's right, DA is finally right on something.
HES RIGHT ON THE GOING RATE FOR ANAL BEAD MASSAGE
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HES RIGHT ON THE GOING RATE FOR ANAL BEAD MASSAGE
No, he's right that watching naked oiled up men on stage is gay.
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Prpops to Derek for telling it straight : he is right . Bob ; I think u are trying a little too hard to be politically correct . It just doesnt suit u . Don't worry about kai ...worry about your wardrobe ...u dress like a .... :-X...u just have no sense of style whatsoever and u talk about good taste and art ::)
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what's funny are the puritanical moralists who judge and condemn what people do and at the same time they can't stop thinking about or looking at it.
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kai greene was a male escort???
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There is no such thing as G4P...you either do or you don't.
Or you're willing to act like one if the price is right. In other words, Gay4Pay. ;D
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Ah... not funny when there is a grapefruit involved, but in a movie when apple pie is involved, it makes $150 million. Get over it, but sticking it in someting doesnt automatically make you gay. Jeez.
The difference being that the kid in the film did it because it was funny and in a comedy where as Kai screwed a grapfruit so queers can watch and jack off.
Well, considering that a tremendous amount of the audience was a mixture of fans and famly, I tend to agree with Bob on this one. Of course, there are many from the gay community, as it is quite appealing, but it is a small aspect, much smaller than many who have not gone to an expo or show think.
Yes, as Derek said, it can be a business, appealing to the gay community without being gay in the special posing videos, and some people don't care. But of course, there are many who are bothered by it, especially if you are conservative. Hence the myriad attitudes on the boards.
Derek has no dignity and would let a nursing home full of geriatric queers fist him in the ass if the price was right.
Ah, no they can't. and once again, there is a difference between posing on video and gay porn.
Ummmm no, way wrong. There's a big difference between hitting a front double bicep in a BFTO DVD and jacking off for a bunch of middle aged men with an anal fetish.
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lets see these grapefruit pictures........ :-X
http://musclehunks.com/kai/ (http://musclehunks.com/kai/)
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i wonder if that's the reason fags are called "fruits" ? ;)
fortunately, there is no weird straight porn out on the internet
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I just saw this thread. Why is everyone just obsessed with Kai and his grapefruit?
Just try it at home already and get over it...
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kai greene is the best poser today and one of the most asthetic physiques around. Im glad hes finally getting the attention he deserves
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2.) ...My opinion-
Personally, I could care less what people do on their own time........
wow this is the second time this week ive seen this written.."could care less" ?....so you mean it concerns you alot?
i think you mean "couldnt care less"...i.e. meaning that its very low on your personal "care scale".... right?
sorry chick but once again your intellectual prowess is amazing to behold..and obviously the ifbb are very proud to have you as a rep for their athletes as based on your grasp of english alone- you aint gonna cause them no pain.
lol.
nice fence sitting too btw.
milos calls foul of the sport over apparent fixes - which seemed quite possible indeed and gets banned. This guy does explicit and on some eyes very immoral visible acts and no one bats an eyelid?..
so what constitutes an acceptable code of conduct and what BBs can and cannot do?
why didnt the ifbb leave the milos thing to the police?...i mean its a civil matter isnt it?...
if you want credibility then things like this should be acted upon if the organisation are going to act over heresay.
otherwise sit on the fence and let the other political and criminal/civil mechanisms deal with (or not) it.
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kai greene is the best poser today and one of the most asthetic physiques around. Im glad hes finally getting the attention he deserves
his sponsor is bringing out a new grapefruit flavoured protein enriched energy drink...be on the look out
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wow this is the second time this week ive seen this written.."could care less" ?....so you mean it concerns you alot?
i think you mean "couldnt care less"...i.e. meaning that its very low on your personal "care scale".... right?
sorry chick but once again your intellectual prowess is amazing to behold..and obviously the ifbb are very proud to have you as a rep for their athletes as based on your grasp of english alone- you aint gonna cause them no pain.
lol.
nice fence sitting too btw.
milos calls foul of the sport over apparent fixes - which seemed quite possible indeed and gets banned. This guy does explicit and on some eyes very immoral visible acts and no one bats an eyelid?..
so what constitutes an acceptable code of conduct and what BBs can and cannot do?
why didnt the ifbb leave the milos thing to the police?...i mean its a civil matter isnt it?...
if you want credibility then things like this should be acted upon if the organisation are going to act over heresay.
otherwise sit on the fence and let the other political and criminal/civil mechanisms deal with (or not) it.
Quoted for truth.
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wow this is the second time this week ive seen this written.."could care less" ?....so you mean it concerns you alot?
i think you mean "couldnt care less"...i.e. meaning that its very low on your personal "care scale".... right?
sorry chick but once again your intellectual prowess is amazing to behold..and obviously the ifbb are very proud to have you as a rep for their athletes as based on your grasp of english alone- you aint gonna cause them no pain.
lol.
nice fence sitting too btw.
milos calls foul of the sport over apparent fixes - which seemed quite possible indeed and gets banned. This guy does explicit and on some eyes very immoral visible acts and no one bats an eyelid?..
Milos wasnt banned...he was suspended based on his failure to produce proof..
so what constitutes an acceptable code of conduct and what BBs can and cannot do?
why didnt the ifbb leave the milos thing to the police?...i mean its a civil matter isnt it?...
No...actually it's not.
if you want credibility then things like this should be acted upon if the organisation are going to act over heresay.
I agree...
otherwise sit on the fence and let the other political and criminal/civil mechanisms deal with (or not) it.
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It's great see Kai living out his bb dreams. He's made some mistakes in his past. I'm sure he'd probably take them back if he could, all he can do now is move on and be a great embassador for the sport. He's really a good guy and i'm very happy for him.
Those videos were awhile back, no one mentioned it cause until now he was a non factor in bb. Hopefully they'll keep talking about it for yrs to come because I think he'll be here for awhile. I'm Sure he'll agree that it's better to be where he is now and have all the hate as opposed to a few yrs ago when the tape was out but noone cared.
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I just drank a cup of grapefruit juice from kai Green's fridge.
Am I pregnant?
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It's funny that nobody talks about the nude (frontal) photos of Arnold Schwarzenegger. Is he less famous? What's the big deal. We are in 2007. How come nobody talks about Denise Messina?
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Those videos were awhile back,
No, they are not.