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Post by: Karma on August 03, 2007, 02:34:23 PM
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Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: davidpaul on August 03, 2007, 02:36:57 PM
Calm down quadzilla, it aint that serious.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: Bluto on August 03, 2007, 02:57:35 PM
are they to failure every set or not
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: davidpaul on August 03, 2007, 02:58:17 PM
are they to failure every set or not

You ever had a nap in the gym?
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: highlander on August 03, 2007, 03:00:07 PM
did you forget the second superset?

b1 seated calf 3 x 15    3030
b2 weighted crunches 3 x 15  3030                              
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: MAXX on August 03, 2007, 03:05:28 PM
i dont count sets that are not to failure.

everything else = warmup
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: Bluto on August 03, 2007, 03:06:01 PM
You ever had a nap in the gym?

hahaha not so far
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: davidpaul on August 03, 2007, 03:07:42 PM
hahaha not so far


he must have a quick nap on the flat bench lol. ;D
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: davidpaul on August 03, 2007, 03:09:07 PM


Bluto is a moderator on the training forum, on the premier bodybuilding forum,

what are your credentials, aparet from being "gordon gekko" one time, and napping in gyms  ::)
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: The Squadfather on August 03, 2007, 03:17:39 PM
90 pound squats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: Bluto on August 03, 2007, 03:23:41 PM
too much napping in the gym will have a catabolic effect of the body and put you in a state of starvation
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: Bluto on August 03, 2007, 03:30:17 PM
he was never fit for the iron game. the iron game will break you or make you. you cant just go to the gym and take naps between sets. he cant stand the atmopshere in the gym, or on getbig

weak body, weak mind.  :-\
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: Sir William Idol on August 03, 2007, 03:36:57 PM
i wonder if he crawled over to the stretching section and used the mats as a pad to nap on, maybe a medicine ball as a pillow?

Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: Bluto on August 03, 2007, 03:37:45 PM
i cant recall charles poliquin ever preaching that you should nap on the gym floor
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: davidpaul on August 03, 2007, 03:38:47 PM
i cant recall charles poliquin ever preaching that you should nap on the gym floor

haha, no mercy in this pwning ;D
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: Master Blaster on August 03, 2007, 04:05:13 PM
Most elite gyms in Bulgaria have "cold rooms" where the athlete's can take brief naps between sets.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: davidpaul on August 03, 2007, 05:22:26 PM
Since when does burning sugar have anything to do with it? And this guy's on juice/slin?! He needs to hit the stairmaster first...oh wait he doesn't post here anymore.  :)

what a crybaby
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: triple_pickle on August 03, 2007, 05:31:44 PM
squats with 90 lbs?  hahahahahahahhahahahhhah ahaahha!!!
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: CARTEL on August 03, 2007, 05:40:40 PM
Most elite gyms in Bulgaria have "cold rooms" where the athlete's can take brief naps between sets.

Bulgarians are hardcore!

Seriously, every now and then I do 10 sets of 10 with a 30 second rest a la Vince Gironda and that shit will mess you up.

I use a lot more than 90 pounds though  8)
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: Devon97 on August 03, 2007, 05:45:38 PM
Sounds like German Volume Training!
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: The Squadfather on August 04, 2007, 07:55:55 AM
squats with 90 lbs?  hahahahahahahhahahahhhah ahaahha!!!
hahahaha, for 10 whole reps no less, what a BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: emn1964 on August 04, 2007, 09:52:30 AM
10 reps with 90 pounds?  I thought I was reading that incorrectly the way he went on about how hard it was.  Because most people here would use 900 pounds for 10 reps.  In any event, he's a weak little girl who metlsdwn at the drop of a hat.  Don't worry though he will be back using a gimmick acct.

BTW, if you were using serious weight doing 10 sets of 10 you would acutally be over training.  Some people will beleive anything they read.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: AllDrugs on August 04, 2007, 10:05:19 AM
I hit 10 sets of 10 at 225-255 to finish my squat routine after 4 heavy sets about once a month.  You will hardly be able to walk 2 days later if you finish it off with a solid routine afterwards (extensions, lunges, curls, etc.).
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: The Squadfather on August 04, 2007, 10:07:50 AM
I hit 10 sets of 10 at 225-255 to finish my squat routine after 4 heavy sets about once a month.  You will hardly be able to walk 2 days later if you finish it off with a solid routine afterwards (extensions, lunges, curls, etc.).
hahahahha, bullshit.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: emn1964 on August 04, 2007, 10:20:51 AM
hahahahha, bullshit.

You mean epic bullshit.  I think people read the crap in the mags and actually beleive those workouts are real. 
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: TheDoctor on August 04, 2007, 10:30:45 AM
I hit 10 sets of 10 at 225-255 to finish my squat routine after 4 heavy sets about once a month.  You will hardly be able to walk 2 days later if you finish it off with a solid routine afterwards (extensions, lunges, curls, etc.).
Give me 4to5 minutes between sets i could do 10 sets of 225 for 10 reps, i already do 5 sets of squats with 8,10,12,15,20reps with long breaks inbetween with 225.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: emn1964 on August 04, 2007, 10:33:53 AM
But alldrugs says he does 10 sets of 10 with 225-255 AFTER 4 heavy sets.  Sure. . .
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: TheDoctor on August 04, 2007, 10:39:44 AM
But alldrugs says he does 10 sets of 10 with 225-255 AFTER 4 heavy sets.  Sure. . .
You have a point, but how long does he rest between sets.
When i finish bulking i want to hit 400 pound single for bench,squat,and maybe go higher for deadlift natural thats my only goal at the moment none of this supersetting bullshit.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: AllDrugs on August 04, 2007, 10:49:44 AM
I'm starting to wonder how many of you REALLY workout?

You think that's a great accomplishment, hitting 225-255 for 10 sets of 10 after already going heavy?  If you are in decent shape, that's FAR from impossible or even worth turning your head towards.

I don't get some of you people.  You guys are either in terrible shape or don't workout at all if you are that awed by that. 
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: TheDoctor on August 04, 2007, 10:53:06 AM
I'm starting to wonder how many of you REALLY workout?

You think that's a great accomplishment, hitting 225-255 for 10 sets of 10 after already going heavy?  If you are in decent shape, that's FAR from impossible or even worth turning your head towards.

I don't get some of you people.  You guys are either in terrible shape or don't workout at all if you are that awed by that. 
I was not doubting you just curios how long did you rest between sets,as simple as that.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: Bluto on August 04, 2007, 10:55:42 AM
i rest less than a minute
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: AllDrugs on August 04, 2007, 10:55:55 AM
90 seconds.  I stretch for about 45 total then hit the bar again at the 90 second mark.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: TheDoctor on August 04, 2007, 10:59:17 AM
90 seconds.  I stretch for about 45 total then hit the bar again at the 90 second mark.
Impressive ;D
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: AllDrugs on August 04, 2007, 11:13:43 AM
I'm a guy who takes lifting seriously but also likes to be in good shape.  You've gotta be in at least decent shape to pull that off.  Guys like Squadfather (after seeing his pics...they are absolutely hideous) can't comprehend how someone could do that because they are in horrible physical condition.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: ANAL DISCHARGE on August 04, 2007, 12:04:53 PM
Bluto is a moderator on the training forum, on the premier bodybuilding forum,

what are your credentials, aparet from being "gordon gekko" one time, and napping in gyms  ::)

This is funny stuff.  "A moderator on the training forum...".   Yeah, that there is a VERY impressive credential  ::)

The initial question was an interesting one and Poliquin has some good approaches and no little success with his athletes. I notice those who disparage the guy who asked the question have no real idea about the 10 x 10 GVT type training so their only recourse is to belittle the question and questioner.  Some of you guys would be better off shot - or perhaps raped.

Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: Tapeworm on August 04, 2007, 12:12:47 PM
"The Poliquin Principals" can be downloaded from a link given in the "E-books" thread on the Training Board, for anyone who gives a shit.  No guarantee it's still available tho.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: dzulboy on August 04, 2007, 02:19:49 PM
90 pound squats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow.....i thouguht that was a typo
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: The Squadfather on August 04, 2007, 04:01:32 PM
But alldrugs says he does 10 sets of 10 with 225-255 AFTER 4 heavy sets.  Sure. . .
hahahaa, exactly, sounds like we've got another internet Tom Platz in the house. ::)
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 05, 2007, 05:36:43 PM
'The Poliquin Principles' is one of the reasons why this industry has never been taken seriously!  More mumbo jumbo.. It is a failed concept.  It has no scientific basis, and just for the record, no one has ever got anywhere using this methodology!

Pro Bodybuilding is the most reviled and despised pageant on the planet and Poliquin is not helping improve its cause!

Peace.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 05, 2007, 05:59:02 PM
Training ain't so important..

Just make sure it's heavy and your legs are sore the next day. Being natural, there's not much you can do expect do heavy compound movements.. It ain't so fucking complicated.  ::)

All these elaborate training ideas wont get you ahead of someone following the norm.

6-7 sets of squats, with legpresses 5-6 sets, stiff leg deads, leg curls and salf raises is my stuff.. It's simple and it works. I bet you most pros do the same shit. Don't buy that magazine garbage.

Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: CARTEL on August 05, 2007, 06:02:43 PM
10 sets of 10 with almost no rest is not very complicated at all and has been around for years.

Just most people don't have the guts to hit it hard.

I don't do it all the time but it sure is harder for me than squatting a ton for a few reps and then sitting around for 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 05, 2007, 06:06:02 PM
10 sets of 10 with almost no rest is not very complicated at all and has been around for years.

Just most people don't have the guts to hit it hard.

I don't do it all the time but it sure is harder for me than squatting a ton for a few reps and then sitting around for 5 minutes.

But all these people come up with elaborate super setting combos.. It all just boils down to being able to hit the muscles from many angles. You can do that with any style, but people don't realize that. They go from routine to routine not realizing that they're not doing their best with their current prefered method.. Everything can work, you just gotta make it happen.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 05, 2007, 06:10:35 PM
Go hard, go heavy, go home and grow!  Simple.

It is about the Big 3 !  

1. Deadlifts
2. Squats
3. Bench

Train like an animal, go balls to the wall, with a take no prisoners attitude!

  Go home and eat like a bear!  Rest and then do it all over again.

You must declare war on the gym!  It is no place for pussies!  Only the strongest survive! The warrior mentality must prevail !

Oh yeah, shoot lots of steroids too!

And dont share those syringes in those stinking and filthy toilets, ok?
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: CARTEL on August 05, 2007, 06:12:57 PM
But all these people come up with elaborate super setting combos.. It all just boils down to being able to hit the muscles from many angles. You can do that with any style, but people don't realize that. They go from routine to routine not realizing that they're not doing their best with their current prefered method.. Everything can work, you just gotta make it happen.

I agree totally. I think it's less about the workout than it is about the actual work.

But I think it is easier to loaf around by sleepwalking through the same low rep/high weight workout all the time. A high rep squat routine at full tilt every now and then will make you feel pain like none other.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: wes on October 23, 2007, 01:05:31 PM
10x10 is GVT or Vince Gironda idea,as is 8x8 or 6x6.......been around long before Poliquin ever thought about lifting a weight.

Very tough system of training.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: flexingtonsteele on October 23, 2007, 01:27:14 PM
10x10 is GVT or Vince Gironda idea,as is 8x8 or 6x6.......been around long before Poliquin ever thought about lifting a weight.

Very tough system of training.

very true, if ur doing 10 sets of 10 with a very slow tempo, the weight isnt goin to be too high. For all u getbig MONSTERS!
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: tommywishbone on October 23, 2007, 02:57:39 PM
"So I did this with 90 lbs on the squat"

Dude, never admit this type of thing. Hell, just lie and say you did 500 x 10. Say anything, but don't ever tell anyone, you did squats with 90 pounds.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: affy on October 23, 2007, 03:06:05 PM
did you start with heavier weight and ended with 90lbs?

i could understand using 90lbs for your 10th set...but it would seem pointless the first 9, it would be like doing nothing
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 23, 2007, 03:53:57 PM
german volume training can work well as a training routine used for short periods of time. you should probably use a weight you can do 20 reps with or so. (but only do 10reps for 10
sets)

first few sets will feel easy..but last few sets should be hard. specially if you keep you rest times between sets constant (as you should)

only one exercise per body part (in general) is more than enough.

as been mentioned gironda had his 8x8 system.

another system is 6x6.

its just one of many routines. nothing magic about it. but can work really well..if you do it properly. (specially for legs and calves)
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 23, 2007, 03:56:38 PM
did you start with heavier weight and ended with 90lbs?

i could understand using 90lbs for your 10th set...but it would seem pointless the first 9, it would be like doing nothing

no the weight (and rest between sets) should be constant when using german volume training. thats the whole point of the system.
Title: Re: Squatting and Super Setting Leg Curls- 10 sets of 10
Post by: nuyork143 on October 23, 2007, 04:14:08 PM
did you forget the second superset?

b1 seated calf 3 x 15    3030
b2 weighted crunches 3 x 15  3030                              

He was sleeping ;D