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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Sports Discussion Boards => Topic started by: Fury on August 08, 2007, 11:23:36 AM
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Hahahaha, I smell the guaranteed Boston mid-August collapse brewing. I remember reading an ESPN article back in May saying that the Yanks had a 13% chance of making the post-season. Can't help but laugh at that. It's not guaranteed but with the way they're playing and Boston's starting rotation faltering like it usually does in August, the stretch should be good.
I wonder if the Yanks won the division, would that make Boston's collapse one of the most memorable of all time? I think so!
The Yanks have been 5 back in the first week of August before and won the division. With Chamberlain getting called up and throwing fire, Hughes coming back and the rest of the rotation holding its own with that hitting, I wouldn't be surprised.
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No the 2004 ALCS was the biggest collapse in professional sports history.
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No the 2004 ALCS was the biggest collapse in professional sports history.
Only equaled by the Pats collapse in the AFC Conference Championship game of '06. ;D Anyway, the sox had a better staff in 2004 and should've never been down 3-0 to begin with, but this argument has been rehashed enough.
As I said in the other thread, it's not time for Yankee fans to get cocky.
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Hahahaha, I smell the guaranteed Boston mid-August collapse brewing.
ain't gonna happen !
>:(
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Only equaled by the Pats collapse in the AFC Conference Championship game of '06. ;D Anyway, the sox had a better staff in 2004 and should've never been down 3-0 to begin with, but this argument has been rehashed enough.
As I said in the other thread, it's not time for Yankee fans to get cocky.
No way..from 3 games up to a 4 game sweep. Nobody will remember the Pats loss as anything other then a loss. To me...however, it was almost the worst thing that could happen. The worst happened two weeks later when the Dolts won the SB.
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No way..from 3 games up to a 4 game sweep. Nobody will remember the Pats loss as anything other then a loss. To me...however, it was almost the worst thing that could happen. The worst happened two weeks later when the Dolts won the SB.
You don't remember the Pats loss as anything but a loss because you are a Pats fan, and Pats fans define themselves by winning championships, not devastating losses.
It is the same with being a Yankees fan. Boston fans soooooo wanted 2004 to hurt much more than it did. It's because they were a fanbase that had defined itself by devasting losses up until that time, and the tables finally flipped. Most Yankee fans I know did not feel that way. Yes, it truly sucked to be up 3-0 and lose, but it didn't stick as long as sox fans wanted it to. To be perfectly honest, 2001 was much, much, worse, since the WS was there for the taking. In '04, the Yanks had a very flawed team, and the WS was no guarantee after that.
The more a team reaches the playoffs, the more chances there are to lose as well. It comes with the territory.
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Only equaled by the Pats collapse in the AFC Conference Championship game of '06. ;D Anyway, the sox had a better staff in 2004 and should've never been down 3-0 to begin with, but this argument has been rehashed enough.
As I said in the other thread, it's not time for Yankee fans to get cocky.
The pats lost that game by less then a touchdown. The Yankees choked three consecutive times in a row. It is not even close!!!! Btw nice to see all the Yankee fans talking trash (not you grape ape). You are very fair and never drink the kool aid. If the yanks fall back out of contention will guys like b fury dissapear again? Fury was the one talking shit about how awesome the Yankees pitching was going to be pre season.Lets see if the Yankees can dominate teams better then the Royals. Since they start to play real teams soon we can see how things shake out. Not to say putting up 20 on the Royals is not impressive, but its the royals.
I can only hope yankees fans get cocky and then get bounced. None of this is a shock to me , I knew it would be close at the end of the year. I would not count out the Yankees if Arod lost an arm. To much talent.
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B Fury is a Yankees fan?
I'm soooooo shocked. ::)
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Abreu, Matsui, and Cano are just playing insane right now. If they keep that level up Jeter, Arod and Posada will get better looks in the stretch run.
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I go to Yonkers sometimes and I always take the George Washinton to the Bronx and right by the stadium.
I head out to NJ with my bro and I'm in the meadowlands and near Giants stadium.
Come back to home in Queens and I go right by Shea. ;D
If not Boston, Yanks are like .5 back of the wild card leader. A-Rod is due to bust out of his little slump anytime and Clemens just had a great showing. ;D And to think they were 10 games out when Jeter said they'd catch the Sox.. Show you the confidence they're rolling with.
Matsui is on a tear considering he was injured earlier in the season.. he's got 22 homers. ;D
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ya the yankees have too much talent to not win. theyre finally playing like they should have been all year.
but theyre getting their asses handed to them tonight by the Blue Jays ;D 14-2 after the 6th
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ya the yankees have too much talent to not win. theyre finally playing like they should have been all year.
but theyre getting their asses handed to them tonight by the Blue Jays ;D 14-2 after the 6th
But they beat the royals by 20 runs ;)
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But they beat the royals by 20 runs ;)
right but im a blue jays fan so this is more fun for me ;D
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right but im a blue jays fan so this is more fun for me ;D
I was being sarcastic since the yanks fans are pounding there chest over bashing the royals. All in good fun of course.
Another AAAAAAAAAA bomb for AAAA RODDDDD ;) ;) ::) :)
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hahahah, I only made this thread to see Body's response. It was a lot more civil than I thought. Although he did manage to slip in his typical cheap shot. You're right it's only Kansas City. We could be dropping games to Tampa Bay and Baltimore with our best pitchers on the mound like you guys instead, right?
It's going to be a good stretch. I won't be disappearing but I'll be sure to twist the story around in my favor like I usually do should they collapse. Going to be fun to see the next 2 months.
right but im a blue jays fan so this is more fun for me ;D
Poor soul.
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hahahah, I only made this thread to see Body's response. It was a lot more civil than I thought. Although he did manage to slip in his typical cheap shot. You're right it's only Kansas City. We could be dropping games to Tampa Bay and Baltimore with our best pitchers on the mound like you guys instead, right?
It's going to be a good stretch. I won't be disappearing but I'll be sure to twist the story around in my favor like I usually do should they collapse. Going to be fun to see the next 2 months.
Poor soul.
The sox won both those series. They took 2 games out of 3. If dropping games = 2 wins out of three I will take that any day of the week. Equals what 108 wins? If you have been reading my posts this season I have been saying how people should not count the Yankees out. Effin has been saying the same thing. The sox split the series they had with the angels. Papi is out for a few games, Schill just got back. The sox are in a funk. They have been playing .500 ball for awhile now. While the yankees are beating up on sub 500 teams. The sox will get hot again. The Yankees have some legit teams coming up, so they might cool off. The yanks are hot right now, but until it lasts and they stay hot vs good teams I would not declare them out of the woods. The lead is at 6 games btw.
I hope it goes down to 1 or 2 games. I want it to be a race. I drink the koolaid to start conversations sometimes. I don't think I am that much of a yahoo tho. Not trying to take shots at the Yankees. I honestly thought putting 20 runs on the board was impressive. All those hr's to. I want Arod to play for Boston some day. But it is the royals, so until the Yankees stay hot against playoff caliber teams people are going to think they are suspect. To much talent on that team for them to flounder forever. Question is can they stay hot vs good teams in the postseason if they make it.
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Well, well, well. The big, bad Cleveland Indians are getting the absolute shit kicked out of them in this series. Indians are #5 in the power rankings to boot. Very interesting!!!!!
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A-Rod hit two bombs yesterday.. Guess he's out of his milestone slump. 8)
They might not catch Boston, but they'll win the wild card for sure.
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A-Rod hit two bombs yesterday.. Guess he's out of his milestone slump. 8)
They might not catch Boston, but they'll win the wild card for sure.
Boston just lost again today, making that 2 of 3 they dropped to the lowly Baltimore Orioles and moving the Yanks 4 back. The Yanks have been 5 back at this point in August before and still won the division. This is right when Boston's usual mid-August collapse goes into full swing. I suspect they'll probably drop 10 of the next 14.
The best part is big bad Eric Gagne has done absolutely nothing since the Sox got him. He's given up 7 runs in 4 innings pitched. Great trade!
Body88 should stop talking shit about the Yanks beating up on bad teams when Boston can't even take 2 of 3 from a team as bad as the Orioles.
Let's keep in mind that if the Yanks weren't using 75,000 different pitchers for the first two months of the season that they'd probably be 10 up on Boston. The Sox have done absolutely nothing in the last 2 months. :D
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Let's keep in mind that if the Yanks weren't using 75,000 different pitchers for the first two months of the season that they'd probably be 10 up on Boston. The Sox have done absolutely nothing in the last 2 months. :D
This is true, but it also regression to the mean - players like Cano, Matsui, and Abreu were performing well under their career averages at the beginning of the year. The Yankees had terrible injuries in the beginning of the year as well, throwing out a roation that included Karstens, Rasner, and Igawa coupled with Pettitte and Mussina, with Mussina off to a horrible start.
People are quick to point to the easy part of the schedule, but leading up to it, the Yankees took 3 of 4 from Minny and 2 of 3 from LA. They have an incredibly potent lineup, a solid pitching staff 1-5, a much improved bullpen, and a now great bench.
Even with all that, they could easily miss the playoffs because of the horrible start. The WC could be maddening this year, with a ton of teams in it until the last week.
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This is true, but it also regression to the mean - players like Cano, Matsui, and Abreu were performing well under their career averages at the beginning of the year. The Yankees had terrible injuries in the beginning of the year as well, throwing out a roation that included Karstens, Rasner, and Igawa coupled with Pettitte and Mussina, with Mussina off to a horrible start.
People are quick to point to the easy part of the schedule, but leading up to it, the Yankees took 3 of 4 from Minny and 2 of 3 from LA. They have an incredibly potent lineup, a solid pitching staff 1-5, a much improved bullpen, and a now great bench.
Even with all that, they could easily miss the playoffs because of the horrible start. The WC could be maddening this year, with a ton of teams in it until the last week.
Oh, nothing's solid yet. But to have a 13% chance of making the post-season in June to being right in the thick of things right now while having one of the best runs in a long time is exciting stuff. Just goes to show that money really does matter in baseball. You don't see teams with $70 million payrolls doing this. Once they're out, they're usually out for good. Except for the A's and their farm system of course.
And in reality, minus a couple slumps here or there in the beginning, the Yanks were still in the top 5 for most hitting categories. I still remember that they were supposed to be 5-10 or so games over .500 around June because of their run differential.
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The yanks offense after the all star break has been nothing short of spectcular. Even the gambino comes back and jacks two out over the weekend.... This is awesome to watch. Finally having a pitching rotation with Rivera closing out games as per usual.
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The yanks offense after the all star break has been nothing short of spectcular. Even the gambino comes back and jacks two out over the weekend.... This is awesome to watch. Finally having a pitching rotation with Rivera closing out games as per usual.
Cano is 47 for his last 100. That is freaking amazing!
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i think francona really needs to stick with okajima as the main set up man because right now the gagne situation is not looking good. maybe its going to take gagne more time to settle into his new role but the redsox right now have the best 8th, 9th, with okajima and paplebon. why mess around with what has been working so well all year?
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i think francona really needs to stick with okajima as the main set up man because right now the gagne situation is not looking good. maybe its going to take gagne more time to settle into his new role but the redsox right now have the best 8th, 9th, with okajima and paplebon. why mess around with what has been working so well all year?
Okajima hasn't be too hot lately, either. That's the problem. The mid August collapse is coming into its own nicely.
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5-innings,8-strikeouts
joba,Joba,JOBA
JOBA!!!!!!!!!
;D
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Okajima hasn't be too hot lately, either. That's the problem. The mid August collapse is coming into its own nicely.
The red sox still have the best statistical pitching staff in the American league. The sox are the second best staff (as a whole) in baseball. You could argue they are the best since the padres play in a weaker division. Look at the numbers on mlb.com. You where calling the staff shaky last time you posted. If you call Shaky the best staff in the AL and second best in all of baseball when they are struggling then I dunno. They have pitched many awesome games that have been lost by lackluster offense. Latley blown saves by Gange. No staff is going to be lights out for the entire season. There is going to be stretches where guys get injured. People are not pitching well. The playoffs have proven to be all about pitching these days. I will take Beckett , Schill, and Dice k in the playoffs any day of the week. Couple that with the pitching depth the sox have and they will be dangerous to anyone come playoff time. The yankees are a talented team and I would hope so for the amont of $$ that went into that lineup. I have never counted them out this year. I knew they would be back. Fact is if they shoot there load to early they could get owned by solid pitching come september, again.
The red sox offense is not hitting. Sort of like that long stretch when the Yankees offense was doing nothing. Look at them now. There is plenty of good hitters on the red sox. I hope they stay cold and then heat back up right around playoff time. They played great baseball on both sides of the ball for far to long to stay this quite forever.
Yea taking the division would be sweet. Bragging rights and I told ya so's for all. Thing is that series in the postseason is all that matters.
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Damn! when the Yank's lose a game they don't mess around :o
12-0 :'(
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5 games......I can't watch, I vaguely remember the 78 melt down. Atleast we picked one up.
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5 games......I can't watch, I vaguely remember the 78 melt down. Atleast we picked one up.
You shouldn't worry unless it gets to around 2 or so.........
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Hahaha....
The hell with the Red Sox and the Yankees! Orioles take 2 out of 3 in back to back series with both teams. To be honest, they should have swept the Yankees but they blew the first game. The Orioles sorry ass bullpen gives up another spectacular outing by Cy Young candidate Eric Bedard who had a 3-0, 2 hit shutout(along with 8 k's) going into the 9th. Then the fucking closer gives up a 3 run bomb to some schmoe I've never even heard of to tie the game. Typical Orioles luck even though they end up winning 6-3.
Yeah, yeah, I know. The Orioles suck but you know what? Neither the Red Sox or the Yankees are good enough to win it all this year. Hate to say it. The Red Sox have no offense when it counts(great starting pitching, though) and the Yankees have no pitching or bullpen.(great offense).
Both teams are lucky there isn't a third team in that division to challenge them. They only challenge each other year in and year out. It's been a two team race for the past several years now. I only wish Baltimore was in a bigger market to contend.
Good thing there isn't a salary cap in baseball otherwise both teams and their annual success would have been a distant memory a long time ago.
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Yankees have "no" pitching is a bit of an overstatement. I can't think of too many teams that send out 4th and 5th starters the calibre or Hughes and Mussina. Yes, they don't have a dominate Johan Santana-type at the top of the rotation, but they send out starters 1-5 who all are above league average. Wang-Pettitte-Clemens should be enough pitching, provided the offense doesn't slump. If the Yankees don't make the playoffs, it will most likely be due to the injuries that plagued the staff in the first two months. They been the best team in baseball since the week before the ASB.
Chamberlain has the potential to be Frankie Rodriguez circa 2002. If the Yankees make the playoffs, a bullpen of Vizcaino/Hughes/Chamberlain/Rivera is as good as any.
It could fizzle in the playoffs for the both sox and the Yanks. The best teams generally make the playoffs, but it's a crapshoot after that. It's all who is hot at the right time.
The Orioles will continue to suck until they get a new owner.
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5-innings,8-strikeouts
joba,Joba,JOBA
JOBA!!!!!!!!!
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Quote for JOBA!!!!!! :o
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Body's been pretty quiet, what with the Yanks absolutely demolishing Detroit and Cleveland in successive series. ::)
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5 Back again.....
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Body's been pretty quiet, what with the Yanks absolutely demolishing Detroit and Cleveland in successive series. ::)
Sorry I was on vacation in LA for the last week. Forgot to hunt down an internet cafe so I could post ::)... 5 games is not exactly anything to whine about anyway. I have said not to count the yankees out all year. I am not suprised they are playing great baseball at all.
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Fuckin Angels,the Yanks Achilles heal >:(
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Sorry I was on vacation in LA for the last week. Forgot to hunt down an internet cafe so I could post ::)... 5 games is not exactly anything to whine about anyway. I have said not to count the yankees out all year. I am not suprised they are playing great baseball at all.
hahaha, oh brother. You were spouting off about how interesting it will be to see their next couple of series and now that they're done smacking the shit out of 2 of the top 5 AL teams, all of a sudden it doesn't mean much. Typical BoSox fan. ::)
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hahaha, oh brother. You were spouting off about how interesting it will be to see their next couple of series and now that they're done smacking the shit out of 2 of the top 5 AL teams, all of a sudden it doesn't mean much. Typical BoSox fan. ::)
haha! You love stirring the pot, don't you?
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Fuckin Angels,the Yanks Achilles heal >:(
Bump for the truth :'(
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hahaha, oh brother. You were spouting off about how interesting it will be to see their next couple of series and now that they're done smacking the shit out of 2 of the top 5 AL teams, all of a sudden it doesn't mean much. Typical BoSox fan. ::)
Spouting off? Show me where? If you think getting called out for pounding your chest for beating up on the royals with a 200 plus million dollar lineup is Spouting off good luck to ya. I said we will see how the yankees do when they face some good teams. Until they met the angels they where doing great. Good for them. No suprise to me really. I have been saying the yankees would be in this thing all year. I have also been saying the yankees "would be back" all year. Being six games out is not exactly anything to brag about btw. I suspect that is why you are gone again.
18 - 9 loss last night at the hands of the angels? The angels put up 12 runs the night before, right? Kudos to you on your post season pitching predictions for the Yankees! Typical ct sports fan. If I recall you scoffed at my claims that the sox would have the better pitching staff. Sox = best statistical staff in AL and second best staff in all of baseball behind the Padres. You could also argue the padres play in a weak division making the sox the better staff in reality. The sox managed to remain on the top while missing some of there best starters due to injury. The Yankees have the 17th ranked pitching staff in baseball. I have said the Yankees would be in this till the end. I was one of the few who did not get cocky nor claim the Yankees to be done. Fury we get you hate Boston sports teams. We get you like to stir the pot. But for gods sakes learn some things about the teams you are always squawking about. The sox offense has not exactly been lighting it up and they still manage to remain the sixth best offense in all of baseball. The sox also have the second ranked pitching staff in baseball. The yankees have the best offense in the mlb and the 17th best pitching staff.
I will take a superior pitching staff and a solid offense over a big time offense and mediocre pitching staff any day of the week. The sox offense is due to heat up again , they played far to good offensive baseball all year to stay cold forever. The sox had a very explosive offense in 03. Didn't help them much in the playoffs. The playoffs have proven to be all about the pitching imo. While the Yankees could very well take the division nothing is a guarantee.
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6 games...10 RBI's for G. Anderson...bullpen meltdown and there's all kinds of trouble with the G men.....BF's an idiot.
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I will take a superior pitching staff and a solid offense over a big time offense and mediocre pitching staff any day of the week. The sox offense is due to heat up again , they played far to good offensive baseball all year to stay cold forever. The sox had a very explosive offense in 03. Didn't help them much in the playoffs. The playoffs have proven to be all about the pitching imo. While the Yankees could very well take the division nothing is a guarantee.
I agree you've never counted the Yankees out.
I'm not sure about the sox offense heating up, though. As of a couple days ago, EEI had mentioned how the sox were 3 games over .500 in their last SEVENTY games. That would indicate that the 27-12 start was the anomaly, and the offense that you're currently seeing is a truer indicator of what they have this year.
The way Schilling has pitched, do you think Beckett, Matsusaka, Schilling is really all that different from Wang, Pettitte, Clemens? It's splitting hairs. Outside of Beckett, they're all capable of blowing up on any given night, or pitching great games.
That's why the playoffs are such a crapshoot. Anything can happen in a short series.
I've always wanted the first round of the playoffs to be 4 out of 7. To decide a team's fate on a 3 out of 5 series after a 162 game season is unfair.
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6 games...10 RBI's for G. Anderson...bullpen meltdown and there's all kinds of trouble with the G men.....BF's an idiot.
Yeah, I'm an idiot. The Angels have been the Yanks kryptonite for how many years now? Let's not forget the fact they just absolutely annihilated Cleveland and Detroit in two straight series, or the fact they have far and away the best record from the all star break? What has Boston done? Oh that's right. Drop games to mediocre teams. hahahaha!
I'm surprise you can find time to type considering you've got your lips glued to a poster of Ortiz's sphincter and your hands jerking off your inflatable Brady doll.
Don't worry. Only two weeks until the Pats can start letting you down to boot. ;)
I agree you've never counted the Yankees out.
I'm not sure about the sox offense heating up, though. As of a couple days ago, EEI had mentioned how the sox were 3 games over .500 in their last SEVENTY games. That would indicate that the 27-12 start was the anomaly, and the offense that you're currently seeing is a truer indicator of what they have this year.
The way Schilling has pitched, do you think Beckett, Matsusaka, Schilling is really all that different from Wang, Pettitte, Clemens? It's splitting hairs. Outside of Beckett, they're all capable of blowing up on any given night, or pitching great games.
That's why the playoffs are such a crapshoot. Anything can happen in a short series.
I've always wanted the first round of the playoffs to be 4 out of 7. To decide a team's fate on a 3 out of 5 series after a 162 game season is unfair.
Bump! Beckett's been horrendous since June. Last I checked (about 2 weeks ago) he was 4-5 since going 9/10-0 and had roughly a 4.85 ERA in that stretch, which is to be expected considering he always goes to shit in the second half. Matsuzaka's been decent, nothing spectacular and Schilling should have been cut a year ago.
Don't worry. Boston still blows and the majority of their fans are penis wranglers.
haha! You love stirring the pot, don't you?
hahahaha, that's the only thing Boston fans are good for. If I ever feel down in the dumps I just read some of their posts on whatever website and realize that my life could be 100x worse. Imagine rooting for a team that wins a World Series every 86 years and feeling that you have the right to talk shit. Oh brother! ::)
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B fury
"the yankees will have the best pitching staff in baseball. Can you say world series?"
" Honestly I dont know much about the the colts or the pats" Why would I? (After talking trash like he has a clue)
" I am not the kid in those pictures"
" I play football for uconn"
Nuff said
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hahaha, can't say I'm surprised you have nothing to say. The football thing was pure fucking gold. I post one pic, claim to be going to practice and no less than 10 people spend 2-3 months trying to figure out which guy I was. The best was when you messaged me thinking I was DJ Hernandez. Or the fact you were going to call up your old college buddy to find out who I was! hahahah, oh brother, talk about taking the internet too seriously. ::)
It's nice to see you've completely avoided every single point I made. I never said I don't know anything about the Colts or Pats. I know enough. And I know enough to not care about the Pats and the fact that they're not as good as you make them out to be, fanboy.
By the way, where's your pic "big guy"?
You're a fanboy that knows next to nothing and lacks the ability to refute any point made about his beloved, albeit incredibly overrated, teams.
Nuff said
(Feel free to refute my claims about the BoSox, but you won't Because I'm 100% right and know more about them than you.)
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You are the one who made these bonehead comments, dont get mad about it.
" I would take the yankees pitching staff over any staff in the majors" " The yankees pitching staff will be far better then the red sox"
Sox staff is ranked number two statistically in the mlb. Yankees staff is ranked 17th. Great prediction pal ::)
You didn't even know the colts lost Tarik Glenn, there entire starting secondary pretty much, Corey Simon, Booger McFarland and there second running back. Yea they are just as strong as last year. The 5th worst run defense in NFL history lost a KEY player in Mcfarland, Simon and sanders is already injured. Plus half the secondary. They should just steamrole everyone right fury? Nothing to be concerned about.The colts lost one of if not the best ol in the game, who has been pretecting Mannings ass for his entire career. No big deal. Those extra sacks wont do much to manning. I am sure Ugoh will step right in as a rookie and be as good as one of the best ever.
" The patriots are aging all over" I dared you to tell me where. You cant because you don't know what you are talking about. Brady is 30, Maroney is a second year back, Falk and morris are not that old, The receiving corps is young. Gaffney, Caldwell , Welker, Stallworth and Jackson are all young. The offensive line is young as well as the tight ends. Watson and Thomas are freaking babies. The defensive line goes 26, 26 and 28. The linebacking corps is older, but they also have three up in coming youngsters in woods, Alexander and lau. ALong with the vets there is plenty of youth at lb. The secondary is young and along with the rookie meriweather they have second year player James Sanders to step in for Rodney. He has really stepped it up this year and looks ready to get things done. The dbs are young. Samuel is young, Special teams is young, etc etc. The patriots have just about the best mix of veterans and youth you could ask for. You don't know jack shit about either team, look up the posts.
You talked about the jets like you had a clue also. Saying Jones would run wild on the pats. Really? The bears have a pretty damn good offensive line. The jets have a shitty one. Jones already has a Achilles strain and a calf strain. Might not even play vs the pats. Little things if you payed attention that might make you sound a bit more informed when making dumb claims.
The jets also have no defensive line and a controvery invilving there best offensive linemen who wants out. Not to mention Chad has looked like garbage latley. You also failed to relize the jets played two teams over 500 last year. Not saying they wont do well, but you ignore facts because you dont have a clue.
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Are you starting to melt? It would be pretty sweet to reduce you to the point of deleting your account amidst a tear filled rage like you did last time. Remember that? Talk about an insecure 24 year old! ;)
Feel free to reply to my other thread about the great BoSox pitching superstars!
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Are you starting to melt? It would be pretty sweet to reduce you to the point of deleting your account amidst a tear filled rage like you did last time. Remember that? Talk about an insecure 24 year old! ;)
Feel free to reply to my other thread about the great BoSox pitching superstars!
Deleted my account? That never happened because of you. I am 25 going on 26 btw. If you are going to try to get the whole melting down squad board insult fest going on then you are not going to last here.
There is a difference between opinions and trolling to be a dick.
If you dont like it cry to Ron as usual.
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hahaha, good job editing the shit out of your post like a clown. The Jones comment was made right before he was injured. Secondly, I already knew the Colts had lost almost all of those guys. And it means what? They've never had a good defense and their secondary was horrendous. So it's not going to make much of a difference if they have knew people. Tarik will be replaced over time. Addai will carry more of the load this year to boot. And the Linebacking corps is what keeps the Pats defense afloat, and with the amount of old, useless veterans they have there, I doubt they'll be stopping much.
I couldn't care less about this statistic that the Yankees have the 17th ranked pitching. Get this dipshit, they have far and away the best record since the all-star break. No one but you gives a shit about the fact they sucked until June and went through a dozen+ starting pitchers. But I guess I would focus on that too if my 3 "superstar" pitchers all had records under .500 for August.
Face it clown, the Sox aren't that good. I know your typical Boston world has been crashing down on your head since the All-Star break but get this, it happens almost every year. ;)
Let's get it it out of the way now, though. The Pats won't win the Super Bowl. Can I expect you to take a picture of the tears streaming down your bandwagoner face when they lose in the playoffs? ::)
Deleted my account? That never happened because of you. I am 25 going on 26 btw. If you are going to try to get the whole melting down squad board insult fest going on then you are not going to last here.
There is a difference between opinions and trolling to be a dick.
If you dont like it cry to Ron as usual.
Never said it happened because of me. I said it happened, which it did. Which is absolutely pathetic that you let an internet forum that the same 20-50 regulars post on bother you to the point of throwing a temper tantrum at 26. When have I cried to Ron? Oh, maybe you're talking about one of your tear filled meltdowns over the fact you wanted to "ban" me from a board that 4 people post on because I refuted the 500 Red Sox threads you had littering it.
I can tell you're pretty insecure by your posts. If anyone even so much as disagrees with any glorified ESPN-researched comment you make, you go right off the deep end and into one of your vendettas.
You sound like one of those glorified NESN morons.
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All one has to do is read the posts before you change them. Not only do you have every point you make about the colts pats and jets refuted, you admit to knowing nothing about them.
You must know me since you know so much about me ::) lol this is halarious.
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All one has to do is read the posts before you change them. Not only do you have every point you make about the colts pats and jets refuted, you admit to knowing nothing about them.
You must know me since you know so much about me ::) lol this is halarious.
I know you're insecure enough that you melted to the point that you deleted your account in a tear filled rage in some vain attempt to get back at the people who insulted you. Anyone who takes an internet forum that seriously has some serious problems
I never said I know nothing about the Colts or Pats. I said I didn't know much, and frankly, I couldn't care less. The Pats are overrated and far from being the super powered team you think they're going to be in the AFC. I can think of 3 teams off the top of my head that are more than capable of slapping the shit out of them.
You might want to start compiling your excuses for when the Pats don't win the Super Bowl this year. ;)
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I know you're insecure enough that you melted to the point that you deleted your account in a tear filled rage in some vain attempt to get back at the people who insulted you. Anyone who takes an internet forum that seriously has some serious problemsI never said I know nothing about the Colts or Pats. I said I didn't know much, and frankly, I couldn't care less. The Pats are overrated and far from being the super powered team you think they're going to be in the AFC. I can think of 3 teams off the top of my head that are more than capable of slapping the shit out of them.
You might want to start compiling your excuses for when the Pats don't win the Super Bowl this year. ;)
The irony... Ha ha nuff said.
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The irony... Ha ha nuff said.
I don't recall deleting my account in a tear filled rage only to come crawling back a week later, do you? hahahaha, talk about INSECURE.
26 years old and feeling that insulted by words on a monitor is so laughably pathetic I can't help but feel bad for you. An insecure Boston fanboy who lacks the ability to think logically. Does it get any worse?
Ha ha nuff said.
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I don't recall deleting my account in a tear filled rage only to come crawling back a week later, do you? hahahaha, talk about INSECURE.
26 years old and feeling that insulted by words on a monitor is so laughably pathetic I can't help but feel bad for you. An insecure Boston fanboy who lacks the ability to think logically. Does it get any worse?
Ha ha nuff said.
Where do you think up this stuff, lol !!!!!!! Nick you need a rest buddy :o
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Where do you think up this stuff, lol !!!!!!! Nick you need a rest buddy :o
hahaha! It just flows sometimes. :D
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Ironically, this is the most action this board has seen in the last 6 months. Be it not for me to beat a dead horse, though.
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Keep it up guys! This is good shit!
I wish I could contribute more in these baseball debates but I fucking hate the teams you guys are backing.
Only in NFL football could I argue about AFC dominance in reference to the Ravens but baseball?
Shit...I'm an Orioles fan, nuff said. :-\
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Shit...I'm an Orioles fan, nuff said. :-\
Any ideas who you guys might acquire to compliment Bedard, Cabrera and Guthrie? One more impact starter could make them much better.
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Any ideas who you guys might acquire to compliment Bedard, Cabrera and Guthrie? One more impact starter could make them much better.
No doubt another impact starter would improve them tremendously but Angelos(owner) would have to break the fucking bank in order to sign a marquee free agent pitcher next off season.
I don't think it can happen because Angelos is a jerkoff for an owner. It would have to be mid level starter who hopefully can elevate himself to another level.
The state of the Orioles is pathetic considering how dominant this franchise used to be in the late 70's and early 80's. Such a shame considering what great tradition the Orioles used to have.
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No doubt another impact starter would improve them tremendously but Angelos(owner) would have to break the fucking bank in order to sign a marquee free agent pitcher next off season.
I don't think it can happen because Angelos is a jerkoff for an owner. It would have to be mid level starter who hopefully can elevate himself to another level.
The state of the Orioles is pathetic considering how dominant this franchise used to be in the late 70's and early 80's. Such a shame considering what great tradition the Orioles used to have.
Angelo's is an idiot.glad he's in the Yanks division :D and I'm glad Girardi turned him down.
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Hey body if I was posting this stuff u'd tell me to relax, BF is an idiot. He's friggen skinny kid who is insanely jealous of Boston for some reason. He's already admitted to knowing next to nothing about the Dolts...forget it. He can't debate with facts so he's resorted to name calling.
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Hey body if I was posting this stuff u'd tell me to relax, BF is an idiot. He's friggen skinny kid who is insanely jealous of Boston for some reason. He's already admitted to knowing next to nothing about the Dolts...forget it. He can't debate with facts so he's resorted to name calling.
Have I? Looks to me like Body was the first one to resort to name calling. I just reminded him of the fact that he threw a temper tantrum at 26 years old and deleted his account. Don't worry, he's a big boy, he can defend himself without you running in to attach your mouth to his scrotum and pat him on the back for being a Boston fan.
What's there to be jealous of Boston for? One World Series in 86 years? A 14.5 game lead which turned into the most monumental collapse in baseball history? A team that's struggling to stay afloat their division after having a 15 game lead at one point this season? Yup, I'm jealous alright.
Do you honestly think before you type headhunter? Another Mass. fanboy that knows less about his teams than the people who hate them. ::)
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Have I? Looks to me like Body was the first one to resort to name calling. I just reminded him of the fact that he threw a temper tantrum at 26 years old and deleted his account. Don't worry, he's a big boy, he can defend himself without you running in to attach your mouth to his scrotum and pat him on the back for being a Boston fan.
What's there to be jealous of Boston for? One World Series in 86 years? A 14.5 game lead which turned into the most monumental collapse in baseball history? A team that's struggling to stay afloat their division after having a 15 game lead at one point this season? Yup, I'm jealous alright.
Do you honestly think before you type headhunter? Another Mass. fanboy that knows less about his teams than the people who hate them. ::)
Honest question, Nick Hersh: why are most of your posts 300 words or more? Don't you have anything better to do with your day? :-\
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Great question, considering you’ve spent roughly 6 hours today going through my profile and posts and making sure to reply to every comment I’ve made over the last two weeks.
Yup, it’s good to know I’ve destroyed your ego to the point that you’ve gone full-blown stalker. Stay out of this thread with your bullshit, though.
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you've got a genuine troll there BF....... ;D
what'd you do to this boy anyways ?
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you've got a genuine troll there BF....... ;D
what'd you do to this boy anyways ?
hahahaha, destroyed his internet psyche of course. That, and fucked his sister to boot.
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Hey fucktard...I'm sorry your jealous because nobody defends u and ur silly posts....Body alsways post with facts, while all we get from u is stupid observations and name caslling when nobody takes ur side....besides we've all seen ur pics, what are u 10...11.....
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Sox now 7 games ahead.... Wake is going for his 16th win. Only guy in the majors who can make that claim is Becket. Oh yea fury told us Josh was no good. 16 - 5 with a 3.20 era ::)
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I think Wakefield is having his best season, wins-wise, right?
Most he's ever gotten is 14 or 15, correct? He's been around a long time, too.
How many career wins does Wake have?
I love his pitching stlye. Hardly any velocity on those knucklers. He can probably pitch another 5 years because he's hardly got any stress or burnout on that arm.
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Top 8 6 nothing.....Wakefield going for the shutout..but they suck. ::)
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Top 8 6 nothing.....Wakefield going for the shutout..but they suck. ::)
Wakefield and Becket only major league players with 16 wins! Pretty cool wake has 16 wins at over 40, lol.
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Fury whats going on? Yanks drop 2 out of three to the angels and two to the tigers? You think the tigers are gonna take the series? Almost 8 back now.
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They split the first two with the Tigers.
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I am not saying the Yankees are not capable of taking the series vs the sox. Granted this post was directed to a guy who claims 16 - 5 Josh Becket is no good, lol. Fury claims Becket's era has been "melting down" since the second half. Fact Becket's era has been improving since June. Obv fury does not let the facts get in the way of a good meltdown. Becket's era was over four in June due to 2 starts where he gave up 5 and 6 runs respectively. That jacked his June total up over 4. In July he brought the era total down to 3.5, and so far after four starts in aug his total era is 2.25. Lower then the 2.48 and 2.88 era he posted in April and May. Becket is actually having his best month era wise late in the year. Again this is a guy telling us a pitcher with 16 wins and 5 losses with an era of 3.20 is no good.
Sox offense looks to be heating up. The have beat the white sox 11 - 3 , 10 - 1, 14 -2 and 11 - 1. Hopefully they stay hot vs the yankees. If the sox can win the yankees series they would be back up to a nine game lead. If anyone can cool em down its the Yankees.
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I've really never thought the division was in play. Yanks injuries got them too deep, and even after their ASB run, the sox had too many games left with Tampa, Chicago, etc. If the Yankees didn't trot out a no name rookie in 42% of their games the first two months, I believe, at the very least, they'd be tied with boston right now.
We'll have to see if the sox hitting is them heating up or just playing the worst team in the AL.
BF makes some valid points, but the exchanges you guys have had are indicitive of the typical Getbig shit that happens in the other threads. It didn't seem like that stuff came into this forum, but I haven't read too many threads.
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I've really never thought the division was in play. Yanks injuries got them too deep, and even after their ASB run, the sox had too many games left with Tampa, Chicago, etc. If the Yankees didn't trot out a no name rookie in 42% of their games the first two months, I believe, at the very least, they'd be tied with boston right now.
We'll have to see if the sox hitting is them heating up or just playing the worst team in the AL.
BF makes some valid points, but the exchanges you guys have had are indicitive of the typical Getbig shit that happens in the other threads. It didn't seem like that stuff came into this forum, but I haven't read too many threads.
The exchanges we have are indicative of bfurys ignorance ( a lot off the time) to what he is talking about and sole missions to stir the pot. Take a look at any post fury makes where someone does not agree with him, proves him wrong, or is posting about something he is not a fan off. Everyone is a idiot or knows nothing according to b fury ::) The kid has some serious hate for anything and everything Boston. Look at some old posts. Even when you try to talk sports normally he has a condescending and inflammatory attitude towards anything Boston. Everything is an insult. Quite funny I must say.
As for the rookies 42 percent of the time thing.. I agree the yankees would have just as many wins as the sox. And on the flipside had the sox offense performed a bit better at times Dice k, Wake and Becket would all be over 20 wins right now. Had schill not had injury problems he might have pitched better over the first half. Coulda woulda shoulda. The yankees had to start all those rookies due to injury. Cashmen should pick up guys who can stay healthy. On the same token the sox offense needs to score men they get on base.
As for the sox beating up on the white sox, yes the ws suck. But a sputtering offense is not going to put up close to 50 runs over four games if they are not getting somewhat hot. I am not saying the sox are on fire against a great team. I am saying they just put up 50 runs, papi is hitting for power and they are heading into a very important series with a lot of confidence. They win this series and they are going to have a 9 game lead going into September. The division means shit imo. its all about the playoffs. The division would be nice, but it ain't a ws.
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Boston Red Sox 80 51 .611 --
New York Yankees 72 58 .554 7 1/2
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Top 8 6 nothing.....Wakefield going for the shutout..but they suck. ::)
HH did you see the pats shred Carolina the other night? Carolina has a very nice defense. Peppers was rendered non existant. Brady had all day. He looked very sharp. How about Welker? The guy is awesome. Morris had a great game. My boy Maroney looked very good considering that was his first game action all year. Stallworth made some very nice catches. That new te Rivers is pretty damn good huh? I hope Thomas can get off the pup come season opener. The zone blocking seems to be working well. Pats where without Moss, Thomas, Kyle brady , Login mankins and Gaffney on offense. The d looked very good. Crazy to think Warren , Seymour , Jarvis G and Samuel did not play.This team has a chance to be very very good. I know it is just preseason but with the way the d looked minus 4 of its best players, and how sharp the O looked minus its biggest receiving threat, second starting tight end, best blocking tight end, and best possesion receiver I had to get excited. Full strength this team could be scary. Anything could happen, but the potential is there. Hopefully guys can stay healthy and play to there potential.
On a side not the ravens defense is very good this year. I dont think I have ever seen a better secondary. Reed is a monster. I am floored that our first round pick up Meriweather is often compared to him. They went to the U together. Brandon really looks up to Ed. I HOPE Brandon turns out to be a Ed Reed type player. I think the kid just might some day.
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Hell yeah..very encouraging especially without half the team playing. I guess Wilson got nicked up. No surprise I guess. Wilfork is a man mountain..2 blocked FG's. Ur boy Mauroney looked good..took him some time to get going but he looked fine. Evans and Morris looked good as well. The Ravens may have the best secondary ever..we'll see about the O.
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Hell yeah..very encouraging especially without half the team playing. I guess Wilson got nicked up. No surprise I guess. Wilfork is a man mountain..2 blocked FG's. Ur boy Mauroney looked good..took him some time to get going but he looked fine. Evans and Morris looked good as well. The Ravens may have the best secondary ever..we'll see about the O.
Thank god for Jarvis green. I dont think Seymour is ready to start next week. Great to have a backup that can start on most clubs filling his spot. Unless the hoodie is effin with Mangini and is going to start him without telling anyone.Warren is nicked up but should be in there week one. I was hoping Thomas would be back for week one, but I am absolutly fine with Rivers holding down the second TE spot. I am glad bb and co are making sure these guys heal up totally. The injury bug has been a bitch the last couple of years.
I am glad Asante is back. I love Welker. The guy is so quick.
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Body's been pretty quiet, what with the Yanks absolutely demolishing Detroit and Cleveland in successive series. ::)
Detroit takes 3 out of 4 games capping off the near sweep with a 16 - 0 spanking last night. So as a whole you went .500 vs the tigers. Credit on the Indians series, but the yanks lost the Angels series So in reality the yanks went about .500 against good teams this month. not bad at all, but a long way from demolishing the competition as you claimed early in this stretch. We will see what happens in the Boston series. With an 8 game lead I am not as concerned as before.If the sox split the series and leave new york with a 8 game lead I don't think anyone would complain.
I have been saying all year not to count the yankees out. I knew they would be right back in it. I will however take this opportunity to remain humble as the yankees could very well win this series. Although you are the guy who said a pitcher who is 16 - 5 with a 3.20 era was "melting down" and "no good". I guess that improved era in consecutive months since June means getting worse in b fury land.
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I'll let Body be humble and he can live vicariously through me.....8 friggen games......BF 8 games...... with a possible trip to the pen for Mussina...he looked like a whipped dog on SportsCenter. The yanks have issues...I'm sure this will come down to the wire...but it sure as hell isn't Boston's wheels coming of the wagon. We go tonight..I'm sure it will be a struggle as usual. GO SOX!!!!!!!!!!
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I figured the sox would lose the Petite game. Andy pitched a pretty good game. Dice matched him pitch for pitch until that 2 run homer in the seventh by old man Damon ;) Tonight we have our ace going so we shall see how it goes.
Imo one win will be fine for this series. leaving NY with a 7 game lead would be good. leaving with an 8 game lead would be better :P
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If they were going to loose 1 that would be it...lets hope we can maintain..nice to roll out with no ground gained.
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If they were going to loose 1 that would be it...lets hope we can maintain..nice to roll out with no ground gained.
Im not worried. At worst they leave with a five game lead.
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Im not worried. At worst they leave with a five game lead.
Was that your first look at Joba?
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I figured the sox would lose the Petite game.
Just for fun, should the Yankees make the playoffs, would you feel the same way about the same matchup in the ALCS?
Assuming the sox/Yanks rotations of Beckett/Matsuzaka/Schilling/Wakefield vs. Wang/Pettitte/Clemens/Hughes, I wonder if there's any advantage for either side. I can't get into the numbers right now, but I'm guessing the Yankees have beaten up the sox' starters a little more than the other way around.
Now that I look at it, predicting the outcome if futile, since the matchups appear to be so even. I think the Yankees are every bit the team the sox are, though, despite the seven game difference.
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Just for fun, should the Yankees make the playoffs, would you feel the same way about the same matchup in the ALCS?
Assuming the sox/Yanks rotations of Beckett/Matsuzaka/Schilling/Wakefield vs. Wang/Pettitte/Clemens/Hughes, I wonder if there's any advantage for either side. I can't get into the numbers right now, but I'm guessing the Yankees have beaten up the sox' starters a little more than the other way around.
Now that I look at it, predicting the outcome if futile, since the matchups appear to be so even. I think the Yankees are every bit the team the sox are, though, despite the seven game difference.
I have said not to count the yankees out all year. Anything can happen in a playoff series. Anyone who says they would not be worried to face NY in the playoffs is full of it. When I say i am not worried, I am speaking about leaving NY with at least a five game lead. While getting swept would suck, five games is still five games. I don't really care about the division to be honest.It is all about the playoffs. Andy is the toughest of the bunch for sure. Don't think I don't know the stats are a bit skewed from the troubles the yankees faced at the start of the season.
I have faith in the sox. I also know NY is a good team.
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I have said not to count the yankees out all year. Anything can happen in a playoff series. Anyone who says they would not be worried to face NY in the playoffs is full of it. When I say i am not worried, I am speaking about leaving NY with at least a five game lead. While getting swept would suck, five games is still five games. I dont really care about the division to be honest.It is all about the playoffs. Andy is the toughest of the bunch for sure. Dont think I dont know the stats are a bit scewed from the troubles the yankees faced at the start of the season.
I have faith in the sox. I also know NY is a good team.
No accusations - I'll back you up all the way with what you've said about the Yankees. You're right about not worrying about the division, I wouldn't either.
This is a big test for both Clemens tonight and Schilling tomorrow. I'm wondering if the game's not tight if a sox player is going to eat a Clemens' fasball for ARod getting hit yesterday.
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well yanks squeaked out a good one ,farnsworth pisses me off,arod launched a beckett fastball like a rocket,now for a possible sweep against that windbag schilling.
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Could be worse.....If the Sox can pick up this one..no harm done. The line-up really changes without Manny.
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Could be worse.....If the Sox can pick up this one..no harm done. The line-up really changes without Manny.
The lineup is going to suffer anytime Manny is not in it. Granted the only lost by a run. As grape said both these teams are pretty evenly matched. The yankees coming out on top the last two games.
I believe the sox are not playing to there potential right now.
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Sox looked good the last two games. I was almost in tears watching Beckett getting tagged so early. I'll give him credit, I only expected him to last for 4 innings or so.
The sweep should be nice!
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"Squeaked out" HAHAHHAHAHA. Yup, squeaked it out, considering the Sox had 0 hits through 6 innings and all. I love the justification and excuses for every Sox loss. That was only in the one post I read to boot. ::)
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Yanks are thinking of stepping up the times Joba can pitch.
instead of days=innings they might go by pitch count.
that should help him get into more games ;D
as much as I like Torre he does overuse certain guys in his bullpen :-\
thats why the Yanks have"the Joba rules".
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Yeah, he does sometimes, but Joba's young and his arm should still be pretty fresh. Can't wait to see those "INSANE" Sox bats trying to hit 100 mph fast balls to their faces in October!
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Sox looked good the last two games. I was almost in tears watching Beckett getting tagged so early. I'll give him credit, I only expected him to last for 4 innings or so.
The sweep should be nice!
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"Squeaked out" HAHAHHAHAHA. Yup, squeaked it out, considering the Sox had 0 hits through 6 innings and all. I love the justification and excuses for every Sox loss. That was only in the one post I read to boot. ::)
Pretty sure njflex is a Yankees fan.
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Doesn't make what I said any less true. I'm sure you were telling yourself the same thing last night. "IF only Ortiz got up to bat!!!!" ::)
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Doesn't make what I said any less true. I'm sure you were telling yourself the same thing last night. "IF only Ortiz got up to bat!!!!" ::)
No I wasent. I dont even care about the division. At worst the red sox leave NY with a five game lead. Who cares what happens ::)
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Yup....everybody knows these games are battles..no matter what the record. Maybe shill will pick it up.
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Pretty sure njflex is a Yankees fan.
die hard,meant in a negative way to farnsworth,100 mph occassionally and he throws f##### sliders,has no trust in his fastball or where it will go,location pfffttt,joba is making me a believer and fast cause u know how the yes network blows up its talent.sweep was great and now tampa,i hated schilling even when he a was a philly,had that arrogant way then .has lost it and is going to free angency with a less dominating fashion.cano probably along with arod scares most pitchers,kid is good,just like soriano will never walk or take a pitch.youkalis is turning into a millar/nixon type,gritty,hard nosed,but as a yankee fan i think he's a j.o......
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Joba just spiced up the rivalry with two 99mph fastballs over Youkalis's head :o
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Joba just spiced up the rivalry with two 99mph fastballs over Youkalis's head :o
It'd be a lot cooler if they were 6 inches lower. Joba needs to sack up.
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The two game supspension he just got is horseshit.
The sox have been drilling the Yankees with impunity forever. Matsuzaka's 1st and 2nd straight drillings of ARod go unpunished, the 1st one being closer to his head than either of the Chamberlain fastballs.
Youklis is one of the biggest crybabies I've seen, and that's saying a lot considering I watched Paul O'Neill for so long. He bitches about everything. The sox want to focus on a ninth inning incident so they don't have to think about the reaming they just got.
Papelbon was quoted as saying they've awoken the sleeping giant. Sleeping giant? Didn't they just outscore Chicago 60-10 or something the series before?
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The two game supspension he just got is horseshit.
The sox have been drilling the Yankees with impunity forever. Matsuzaka's 1st and 2nd straight drillings of ARod go unpunished, the 1st one being closer to his head than either of the Chamberlain fastballs.
Youklis is one of the biggest crybabies I've seen, and that's saying a lot considering I watched Paul O'Neill for so long. He bitches about everything. The sox want to focus on a ninth inning incident so they don't have to think about the reaming they just got.
Papelbon was quoted as saying they've awoken the sleeping giant. Sleeping giant? Didn't they just outscore Chicago 60-10 or something the series before?
he was a non factor,great arm,ugly mug.
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Outscoring Chicago is about as praiseworthy as fucking the fat girl you pick up at last call at some hole in the wall bar. That team is a walking disaster and any team worth their salt should have a run differential like that.
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Outscoring Chicago is about as praiseworthy as fucking the fat girl you pick up at last call at some hole in the wall bar. That team is a walking disaster and any team worth their salt should have a run differential like that.
My point was that the Papelbon quote was stupid about the giant sleeping because they had just won two straight series.
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My point was that the Papelbon quote was stupid about the giant sleeping because they had just won two straight series.
B fury is here to stir the pot.He is not objective at all. The red sox could cure cancer and he would find something negative to say.
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B fury is here to stir the pot.He is not objective at all. The red sox could cure cancer and he would find something negative to say.
No, what will happen is the Yanks will cure cancer and 25 other diseases and 86 years down the road the Sox will do something like that once and talk like they're on the same level. ;)
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6 Games ;D
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6 Games ;D
6, 12 , 14.5, who cares?
Last three series Yanks are 7-2 vs. sox. If they get the WC, the division title means litte.
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6, 12 , 14.5, who cares?
Last three series Yanks are 7-2 vs. sox. If they get the WC, the division title means litte.
A lot of people care about the division. A lot of arrogant yankee fans (not talking about you) don't want to have to concede the yankees lost the division to Boston. I don't happen to care much about the division. I feel the same way you do. Its all about the playoffs. The yankees have a winning record vs Boston recently. They also got pounded by the tigers the series before. Anything can happen. The 7-2 number means as much as winning the division come playoff time.
Imo sox will be a dif team come playoff time. Yankees are dangerous. Would be an epic series I am sure.
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A lot of people care about the division. A lot of arrogant yankee fans (not talking about you) don't want to have to concede the yankees lost the division to Boston. I don't happen to care much about the division. I feel the same way you do. Its all about the playoffs. The yankees have a winning record vs Boston recently. They also got pounded by the tigers the series before. Anything can happen. The 7-2 number means as much as winning the division come playoff time.
Imo sox will be a dif team come playoff time. Yankees are dangerous. Would be an epic series I am sure.
Why do you keep bringing up the Tigers series? The Tiger have already swept the Sox this year, meanwhile the Yanks managed to avoid that. ::)
Sox have done nothing since June, remember that. Personally, I don't think they can beat the Angels or the Indians at this point anyway.
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Why do you keep bringing up the Tigers series? The Tiger have already swept the Sox this year, meanwhile the Yanks managed to avoid that. ::)
Sox have done nothing since June, remember that. Personally, I don't think they can beat the Angels or the Indians at this point anyway.
The sox have a better winning percentage as a whole then the yankees do, and are now 7 games up. I don't really care what they have done. Whatever it is they still have a sizable lead for the division.
My point was none of this means anything in the playoffs. As illustrated by the tigers the Yankees can get slammed by any of the contenders.
I have said not to count the yankees out all year. You keep ignoring I was one of the few not talking smack when the yankees where losing every game they played in.
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6, 12 , 14.5, who cares?
Last three series Yanks are 7-2 vs. sox. If they get the WC, the division title means litte.
Since the implementation of the Wild Card the Division Title ultimately means very little.
Although I've seen and heard HUNDREDS of Yankee fans say the exact opposite in the last few years. In fact that was their rally cry when the Yanks were humiliated in 04. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the "Yankees won the Division" rant in the last 2 years.
I'm not saying you are one of those people but to deny that many Yanks fans hold winning the Division up on a pedestal is dishonest.
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Although I've seen and heard HUNDREDS of Yankee fans say the exact opposite in the last few years. In fact that was their rally cry when the Yanks were humiliated in 04. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the "Yankees won the Division" rant in the last 2 years.
I'm not saying you are one of those people but to deny that many Yanks fans hold winning the Division up on a pedestal is dishonest.
Any Yankee fan who brags about the division is a moron. They probably wear AL East Championship clothing. This is not to say winning 11 straight division titles in not something special, because it is - getting to the playoffs 11 years in a row is something special as well. Look how many teams don't get there within a year or two after winning the WS. That's not the point though.
Altough my team has not been the benefactor of the WC as much as it has been for the sox, I'm not against it. It makes the end of the season all the more interesting because of the additional teams, and it prevents every team that's out of it from dumping their good players to the contenders.
What I am against is that a 162 game season's first round is decided by a three out of five. Any team can win that. I think a four out of seven would generally get the better team by.
I also don't consider '04 a humiliation. The sox had a much better pitching staff, which played out over the best of seven. In theory, their comeback was only set up because their two big name pitchers didn't pitch as well as they should have.
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Any Yankee fan who brags about the division is a moron. They probably wear AL East Championship clothing. This is not to say winning 11 straight division titles in not something special, because it is - getting to the playoffs 11 years in a row is something special as well. Look how many teams don't get there within a year or two after winning the WS. That's not the point though.
Hmm, wonder what team has accomplished that? HMMMM!!!!!!!
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Any Yankee fan who brags about the division is a moron. They probably wear AL East Championship clothing. This is not to say winning 11 straight division titles in not something special, because it is - getting to the playoffs 11 years in a row is something special as well. Look how many teams don't get there within a year or two after winning the WS. That's not the point though.
Altough my team has not been the benefactor of the WC as much as it has been for the sox, I'm not against it. It makes the end of the season all the more interesting because of the additional teams, and it prevents every team that's out of it from dumping their good players to the contenders.
What I am against is that a 162 game season's first round is decided by a three out of five. Any team can win that. I think a four out of seven would generally get the better team by.
I also don't consider '04 a humiliation. The sox had a much better pitching staff, which played out over the best of seven. In theory, their comeback was only set up because their two big name pitchers didn't pitch as well as they should have.
I can't argue with the first part of your post because I agree with it although the "benefactor" quip sounds a bit disingenuous coming from a Yankee fan. I respect your point of view so no flaming intended.
As to your humiliation post can you honestly say for one moment that if the Sox had blown a 3-0 lead in the ALCS to the Yankees that each and every Yankee fan (not just the trolls) would not have been clamoring on endlessly about how humiliated the Sox were?
Face it, losing 4 in a row after being up 3-0 in the ALCS is humiliating. There's no denying it. The Sox have been humiliated many times, it is what it is, accept it and move on.
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I can't argue with the first part of your post because I agree with it although the "benefactor" quip sounds a bit disingenuous coming from a Yankee fan. I respect your point of view so no flaming intended.
As to your humiliation post can you honestly say for one moment that if the Sox had blown a 3-0 lead in the ALCS to the Yankees that each and every Yankee fan (not just the trolls) would not have been clamoring on endlessly about how humiliated the Sox were?
Face it, losing 4 in a row after being up 3-0 in the ALCS is humiliating. There's no denying it. The Sox have been humiliated many times, it is what it is, accept it and move on.
I agree. Had the sox collapsed like the yankees did in 04 we would never live it down. The reason the vast majority of yankee fans don't care about the division this year, is because they are not likely to win it. I have been hearing about the division from yankees fans forever. Especially since 04.
As much as most wont admit it, it would really annoy the yankee fans out there to have to concede the division to the bo sox. Effin you are absolutely correct. it is what it is. Losing that series in 04 was humiliating for yankees fans. Sox fans have felt that way many times.
I don't care much about the division. I just want the sox to be healthy heading into the playoffs.
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I agree. Had the sox collapsed like the yankees did in 04 we would never live it down. The reason the vast majority of yankee fans don't care about the division this year, is because they are not likely to win it. I have been hearing about the division from yankees fans forever. Especially since 04.
As much as most wont admit it, it would really annoy the yankee fans out there to have to concede the division to the bo sox. Effin you are absolutely correct. it is what it is. Losing that series in 04 was humiliating for yankees fans. Sox fans have felt that way many times.
I don't care much about the division. I just want the sox to be healthy heading into the playoffs.
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I can't argue with the first part of your post because I agree with it although the "benefactor" quip sounds a bit disingenuous coming from a Yankee fan. I respect your point of view so no flaming intended.
As to your humiliation post can you honestly say for one moment that if the Sox had blown a 3-0 lead in the ALCS to the Yankees that each and every Yankee fan (not just the trolls) would not have been clamoring on endlessly about how humiliated the Sox were?
Face it, losing 4 in a row after being up 3-0 in the ALCS is humiliating. There's no denying it. The Sox have been humiliated many times, it is what it is, accept it and move on.
But the point is sox fans want Yankee fans to still be miserable over it, and it's just not the case. Yes, I hated it at the time, especially the way it all played out. It just doesn't bother me anymore. It was gone the next season.
'01 still bugs me, though. That was a WS that was to be had, and there were TWO big mistakes in that inning, one physical + mental, and one mental. I hated to seethe the run end because the Yankees f'd up, not for what the Diamond Backs did. I don't think we'll see a shot at 4 straight from ANY team now, given the way MLB is.
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Are you going to contribute to this thread like grape ape? Or are you going to just troll around and wait for a chance to insult Red sox fans, Boston, the Red sox and Fenway as a whole.
Effin and I just admitted the humiliation sox fans have felt at the hands of the yankees many times. What is the point of your post above. Derail a perfectly good debate? Or just plunge it into a insult fest?
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Insultfest..forget anything worthwhile from him.....7 Games.
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The Yanks always win when the squirrel is hangin on the right field foul pole ;D
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But the point is sox fans want Yankee fans to still be miserable over it, and it's just not the case. Yes, I hated it at the time, especially the way it all played out. It just doesn't bother me anymore. It was gone the next season.
'01 still bugs me, though. That was a WS that was to be had, and there were TWO big mistakes in that inning, one physical + mental, and one mental. I hated to seethe the run end because the Yankees f'd up, not for what the Diamond Backs did. I don't think we'll see a shot at 4 straight from ANY team now, given the way MLB is.
I don't care if you or any other Yankee fan is miserable about 04', I really don't put that much thought into it. I only mention it because you tried to convince us that it wasn't humiliating.
Winning 4 straight is an astonishing accomplishment and we probably won't see that again although at least with baseball I'm not one to say never. If anything 01' illustrates how difficult it is to win a WS, the Yankees were clearly the better team and should have won. In fact 01' is further proof how incredible winning 4 in a row is.
I went to the game last night, we took my girl's mother. It's pretty damn fun at this time of year when the Sox and the Yanks are fighting for a playoff spot. Everyone watches the Scoreboard on the Monster to see what's happening at Yankee Stadium and when that's too slow people getting on their cell phones to get updates and telling everyone around them. As much as I hate the Yankees they make being a Sox fan a whole lot more fun and interesting.
You mentioned something about all the whining Youks does in one of your posts and I couldn't agree more. He's like a little boy crying when he doesn't get his way, it drives me crazy. If I were an opposing pitcher the first thing I'd do is throw one high and inside to get him going and he'd be whining for the rest of the game. He's such a friggin wuss.
His reaction after getting beaned is another thing that drives me nuts. You get beaned you drop the bat and run to first without any drama and without letting the pitcher know it hurt. That's the way it's supposed to be done and it's the way 99.9% of players handle it. Not Youks though, he's got to jump up and down and cry about the pain and let everyone know how much it hurts and how upset he is. All that does is confirm that when it's time to bean someone he's the one to get beaned. Clearly that's a concept he can't comprehend.
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I'm not sure about the Yanks being clear favorites in '01. I'm not going to get into splitting hairs statistically on this one, but I do know they had Johnson and Schilling with 21-22 wins each with only six losses, Luiz Gonzalez at his juiced up prime, and that they had a better season record and run differential than the Yankees. With two pitchers at that level, it's hard to call them dogs, but I don't remember what Vegas had them at.
I agree with everything else in your post, though.
As far as the sox are concerned, when will we start hearing the voices getting louder calling for Ellsbury to replace Drew, if they haven't already? Ellsbury would add much more dimension to that lineup, and they need it.
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I'm not sure about the Yanks being clear favorites in '01. I'm not going to get into splitting hairs statistically on this one, but I do know they had Johnson and Schilling with 21-22 wins each with only six losses, Luiz Gonzalez at his juiced up prime, and that they had a better season record and run differential than the Yankees. With two pitchers at that level, it's hard to call them dogs, but I don't remember what Vegas had them at.
I agree with everything else in your post, though.
As far as the sox are concerned, when will we start hearing the voices getting louder calling for Ellsbury to replace Drew, if they haven't already? Ellsbury would add much more dimension to that lineup, and they need it.
Ellsbury went three for three last night. The voices will be coming very soon if he keeps it up. Dustin and Jacoby have been on fire.
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Bump so no one forgets the Yanks kicking ass ;D
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I hope those evil Red Sox don't get caught trying to steal signals from the Yanks in the up coming up series >:(
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I hope those evil Red Sox don't get caught trying to steal signals from the Yanks in the up coming up series >:(
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Haha dont even go there! The yankees house most the known juicers in the mlb! ;) ;)
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Haha dont even go there! The yankees house most the known juicers in the mlb! ;) ;)
Have any of them been caught or tested positive? NOPE. Unlike oh say, the Patriots. Don't even try to tell me Manny and those other clowns aren't on something, either. ::)
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Have any of them been caught or tested positive? NOPE. Unlike oh say, the Patriots. Don't even try to tell me Manny and those other clowns aren't on something, either. ::)
Show me where a single pat tested positive for a drug. The NFL does not even test for hgh. The only positive test came from your wagon team of the year. The chargers.
Don't get mad cuz Giambi admitted to juicing ;D
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Haha dont even go there! The yankees house most the known juicers in the mlb! ;) ;)
Were not talking about steroids{by the way who really knows if Giambi admitted it ;)}
Were talking about those EVIL Boston teams underhanded tactics they use to win :D
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Haha dont even go there! The yankees house most the known juicers in the mlb! ;) ;)
Giambi used well before he became a Yankee. Who else on the team is a known juicer?
I can't think of many Yankees who underwent the body changes we've seen over the years from Varitek, Ortiz, and Nixon. Heck, Paxton Crawford admitted to using and getting them from his teammates, yet the story was thrown under the rug.
Every team has their users, none more than the others.
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Giambi used well before he became a Yankee. Who else on the team is a known juicer?
I can't think of many Yankees who underwent the body changes we've seen over the years from Varitek, Ortiz, and Nixon. Heck, Paxton Crawford admitted to using and getting them from his teammates, yet the story was thrown under the rug.
Every team has their users, none more than the others.
Giambi
Clemens
Schef
Have all been rumored to have dabbled. Ortiz is overweight ???
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Have all been rumored to have dabbled. Ortiz is overweight ???
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To much test and dunkin donuts ;D
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Lol test and glazed donuts = hr's
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Lol test and glazed donuts = hr's
Hahaha,aint that the truth!
Manny might be on but even he wouldn't know if he was or wasn't ;D
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Giambi
Clemens
Schef
Have all been rumored to have dabbled. Ortiz is overweight ???
Sheff isn't a Yankee, and all his BALCO related stuff was pre-Yankee.
Clemens? No proof of anything other than speculation from writers, just like Varitek and Nixon were called out by Verducci. Except Clemens hasn't undergone the atrophy experienced by the other two.
Ortiz is fat? He's not really fat. Take away the name and the uniform, and tell me how RSN would react to someone who's experienced a huge weight gain from his rookie year, a complete power surge, a power loss, and and a bunch of injuries? Also a player who has made excuses for Dominican/Latin players who HAVE failed, and admitted he doesn't know everything he's put into his body.
Here's Mr. Arias' rookie card, looks a little different than he does now:
(http://www.homeruncards.com/imagesrc/david-ortiz-ultra.jpg)
Now, personally, I don't really think Ortiz juices, but it's probably easier to make a case than Clemens, whom you labeled a "known juicer".
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Ortiz is looking lean and mean there.
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Ortiz is looking lean and mean there.
He really is. The Twins messed up huge.
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Whats up with the name change?
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Whats up with the name change?
He's latin, they all have seventeen names.
Too bad Tampa has no bullpen, or else this upcoming series could have been more interesting.
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He's latin, they all have seventeen names.
Too bad Tampa has no bullpen, or else this upcoming series could have been more interesting.
Hahaha and lets not get into their real ages!
Jeez,who was playing right field for Tampa last night?
dude was running around like a chicken with his head chopped off :o
it would of been a great catch but a good outfielder would of had a shot at Ortiz's game winner!
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I saw the replay. It should have been caught. Shame on Reyes for throwing a belt high fastball right down the middle when he had been going outside the whole AB. Reyes is very bad.
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Man,I hope the Yanks kick some ass this weekend.
Body88 is gonna be a clicking fool come Sunday night with his cheating Pats and steroid filled Sox both on at the same time ;D
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Man,I hope the Yanks kick some ass this weekend.
Body88 is gonna be a clicking fool come Sunday night with his cheating Pats and steroid filled Sox both on at the same time ;D
2 out of 3 would be nice, but anything can happen. To me, this series is not about the sox/Yanks, the sox are just another team we need to beat to stay on top of the WC. Don't get me wrong, it would be nice if the Yanks can continue the trend of hammering the sox' big three.
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Man,I hope the Yanks kick some ass this weekend.
Body88 is gonna be a clicking fool come Sunday night with his cheating Pats and steroid filled Sox both on at the same time ;D
The pats didnt cheat, see Roger Goodels statment. Who on the sox has ever been accused of steriods? Now tell me how many Yankees have ;)
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The pats didnt cheat, see Roger Goodels statment. Who on the sox has ever been accused of steriods? Now tell me how many Yankees have ;)
Accusations mean what? I'm accusing 99% of the Patriots of being on gear. Looks like they're worse than the Yanks now! That's about the same significance as the media saying Clemens take steroids. What about ol' Curt and Mr. Ortiz? The increase in the size of his head and the 70 pounds he's added were all natural! ::)
Don't worry, you endorse cheaters. It's ok. You like scumbag teams and you're a scumbag fan. Just the way the world works I guess. :-\
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Accusations mean what? I'm accusing 99% of the Patriots of being on gear. Looks like they're worse than the Yanks now! That's about the same significance as the media saying Clemens take steroids. What about ol' Curt and Mr. Ortiz? The increase in the size of his head and the 70 pounds he's added were all natural! ::)
Don't worry, you endorse cheaters. It's ok. You like scumbag teams and you're a scumbag fan. Just the way the world works I guess. :-\
And don't forget the fake blood on ol' Curt's shoe :o :D
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And don't forget the fake blood on ol' Curt's shoe :o :D
hahahaha yes! The glorious "bloody sock". ::)
Schilling's the biggest douche bag in MLB and is probably chock full of illegal substances. But I suppose he's not like Clemens because unlike Clemens, Schill sucks. ;)
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The pats didnt cheat, see Roger Goodels statment. Who on the sox has ever been accused of steriods? Now tell me how many Yankees have ;)
The only current Yankee is Giambi, who took them before he ever became a Yankee. If you want to look at past Yankees, like Sheff, then you have to look at past sox, like Paxton Crawford. Crawford admitted to using HGH and steroids, and admitted he got them from teammates.
Ortiz has been accused an suspected in print. Varitek and Nixon were accused by Tom Verducci of SI.
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The only current Yankee is Giambi, who took them before he ever became a Yankee. If you want to look at past Yankees, like Sheff, then you have to look at past sox, like Paxton Crawford. Crawford admitted to using HGH and steroids, and admitted he got them from teammates.
Ortiz has been accused an suspected in print. Varitek and Nixon were accused by Tom Verducci of SI.
Arod has been accused in print. Clemens by other players. Schef linked to Bonds ,and juice, in print, while he was on the roster. Giambi is a master of clever wording. You know what hes admitting, but he says it so he cant get into trouble for what he is saying. Its not a pissing mtach fellas. It was a reply to a post in which a yankee fan called me out.
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I also heard that Dice-K is in the Jap mob,Julio Lugo is sleeping with the bat boy,and Willy Mo Pena kicked his dog!!!!! >:(
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I also heard that Dice-K is in the Jap mob,Julio Lugo is sleeping with the bat boy,and Willy Mo Pena kicked his dog!!!!! >:(
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Christ you would think with all that time he was spending with bats and bat boys he could get a hit ;)