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Getbig Female Info Boards => Open Talk for Girl Discussion => Topic started by: DIVISION on August 22, 2007, 11:07:16 PM
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.....of what I was talking about in the Trainer thread.
One of my clients told me about her soon to be ex-husband's premature ejaculation issue which precluded her from achieving orgasm during the tenure of their marriage.
I told her it was a mental block and had nothing to do with her persay, but probably stemmed from his upbrining in a repressive Christian household.
He had been the only man she'd had sex with, so she'd never experienced orgasm and no matter what tips she gave him, nothing worked.
Her response to me......."he tried".....
My response to her........" ;D".......
I feel bad for men who have neithe the equipment nor ability to please a female, because it should be innate, something you learn along the way.
I shake my head and tell her that she'll need to find a man who is experienced sexually if she ever wants to see what an orgasm is like...........get the feeling she's almost looking to me for that.
A subtle case of transference, but I'm only trying to mentor her, not have sex with her.
The hard part would be telling her no if she makes it clear later she wants sex from me.
DIV
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There really is no excuse for either men or women not to be good lovers. It's not different that anything else in life, you get out what you put in (No pun intented). There are plenty of websites/books/movies/tv shows/ect to help people in the right direction. If someone is sucky and you take the time to explain what you need and they still are sucky then it's because they don't care enough to do something about it. As a guy it's almost a formula, it's not rocket science. If you are involved with someone it should be something you can talk about and work together to find a way that both parties find satisfaction. Everybody has hang ups and a past or kinky needs, it's how you find solutions that counts.
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The only way to become a good lover is lots and lots of practice. ;D
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Why are you talkiing about sex with your clients?!?!? (esp females)
seems a bit un-professional (not a slam on you but if one of my clients brought up sex, i would steer the conversation away from it)
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.....of what I was talking about in the Trainer thread.
One of my clients told me about her soon to be ex-husband's premature ejaculation issue which precluded her from achieving orgasm during the tenure of their marriage.
I told her it was a mental block and had nothing to do with her persay, but probably stemmed from his upbrining in a repressive Christian household.
He had been the only man she'd had sex with, so she'd never experienced orgasm and no matter what tips she gave him, nothing worked.
Her response to me......."he tried".....
My response to her........" ;D".......
I feel bad for men who have neithe the equipment nor ability to please a female, because it should be innate, something you learn along the way.
I shake my head and tell her that she'll need to find a man who is experienced sexually if she ever wants to see what an orgasm is like...........get the feeling she's almost looking to me for that.
A subtle case of transference, but I'm only trying to mentor her, not have sex with her.
The hard part would be telling her no if she makes it clear later she wants sex from me.
DIV
did she say he was an early shooter or that he never even got it in, Div? what does she look like BTW?
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Why are you talkiing about sex with your clients?!?!? (esp females)
seems a bit un-professional (not a slam on you but if one of my clients brought up sex, i would steer the conversation away from it)
She brought it up when we were talking during a few no-shows in my schedule, purely by coincidence. I wasn't training her at the time and I'm not the type of person to NOT talk about things with someone when I'm not training them because we're all people.
Now if I was training her, I could see your point of view.
did she say he was an early shooter or that he never even got it in, Div? what does she look like BTW?
He shot his ejaculated early, baby Squads...
She's a petite blond with green eyes.
DIV
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She brought it up when we were talking during a few no-shows in my schedule, purely by coincidence. I wasn't training her at the time and I'm not the type of person to NOT talk about things with someone when I'm not training them because we're all people.
Now if I was training her, I could see your point of view.
He shot his load early, baby Squads...
She's a petite blond with green eyes.
DIV
fair enough.................. ...
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Why are you talkiing about sex with your clients?!?!? (esp females)
seems a bit un-professional (not a slam on you but if one of my clients brought up sex, i would steer the conversation away from it)
thats what I'm saying....but it doesn't matter if it's during session or afterwords IMO
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thats what I'm saying....but it doesn't matter if it's during session or afterwords IMO
I'm taking a therapeutic approach to personal training.......
I'm not saying it's for everyone.
DIV
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I'm taking a therapeutic approach to personal training.......
I'm not saying it's for everyone.
DIV
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She brought it up when we were talking during a few no-shows in my schedule, purely by coincidence. I wasn't training her at the time and I'm not the type of person to NOT talk about things with someone when I'm not training them because we're all people.
Now if I was training her, I could see your point of view.
He shot his ejaculated early, baby Squads...
She's a petite blond with green eyes.
DIV
nice, now if she was pale she'd be right uo your alley.
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I prefer to keep things professional and businesslike (talking about sex and orgasms and things of this nature with a client, esp a Female client when they are paying me upwards of $75-$90 dollars per hour
just isn't warrented in a business atmosphere)
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I prefer to keep things professional and businesslike (talking about sex and orgasms and things of this nature with a client, esp a Female client when they are paying me upwards of $75-$90 dollars per hour
just isn't warrented in a business atmosphere)
with a girl as pretty as yours at home you've got no reason to be looking Mike.
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with a girl as pretty as yours at home you've got no reason to be looking Mike.
Thanks Squad! (even i was single i wouldn't date my clients,that's just bad business)
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Thanks Squad! (even i was single i wouldn't date my clients,that's just bad business)
yeah i hear ya, can only lead to problems, any time a girl you "mess with" knows where you work it's never good.
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Thanks Squad! (even i was single i wouldn't date my clients,that's just bad business)
Exactly! Never put the p_ _ _ _ in the payroll! As a personal trainer, I see that as purely unprofessional.
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Thanks Squad! (even i was single i wouldn't date my clients,that's just bad business)
Well.......I never said I was dating my clients.
Still I will have conversations with them, if they so deem it appropriate.
I'm not the one initiating, so it doesn't fall on me.
I think some of you are taking it a bit far.
Considering my client list, it hasn't been an issue.
DIV
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Well.......I never said I was dating my clients.
Still I will have conversations with them, if they so deem it appropriate.
I'm not the one initiating, so it doesn't fall on me.
I think some of you are taking it a bit far.
Considering my client list, it hasn't been an issue.
DIV
DIV, no offense, I am getting the impression you have not been a trainer long. May I ask how long you've been doing it?
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Well.......I never said I was dating my clients.
Still I will have conversations with them, if they so deem it appropriate.
I'm not the one initiating, so it doesn't fall on me.
I think some of you are taking it a bit far.
Considering my client list, it hasn't been an issue.
DIV
Your a true man amongst men,
have you always had such charm with opposite sex?
Or has proteinfarts helped you grow in this area?
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with a girl as pretty as yours at home you've got no reason to be looking Mike.
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Well....I can see a liability waiting to happen & the excuse "she brought it up or started the conversation" won't work in a liability case. That just admits guilt that you did exchange conversations like you suggest.
Remember....it may be ok for her at first...then you do something to piss her off (not realizing it) & she'll use it against you.
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DIV, no offense, I am getting the impression you have not been a trainer long. May I ask how long you've been doing it?
I've been a PT for a year now......
Many experiences, many clients.......
I'm going to get my NASM, then I'll be set to do whatever I want wherever I want.
Right now I've got the NCCPT.
Well....I can see a liability waiting to happen & the excuse "she brought it up or started the conversation" won't work in a liability case. That just admits guilt that you did exchange conversations like you suggest.
Remember....it may be ok for her at first...then you do something to piss her off (not realizing it) & she'll use it against you.
I sense your discomfort baby Kenneth.
I know which clients I can have adult conversations with and which ones are better left to shoptalk.
It's not hard to see the difference.
DIV
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I've been a PT for a year now......
Many experiences, many clients.......
I'm going to get my NASM, then I'll be set to do whatever I want wherever I want.
Right now I've got the NCCPT.
I sense your discomfort baby Kenneth.
I know which clients I can have adult conversations with and which ones are better left to shoptalk.
It's not hard to see the difference.
DIV
one day you'll be saying to yourself "i shouldn't have done that"
I would have phrased...."one day you'll be telling us"...but I know you better than that.
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Many people are lonely and engage PT's for company, especially older men. The actual training is secondary. :P
I fail to see why her husband's over-abundance of enthusiasm would ruin her bliss "over the tenure of their marriage." I'm guessing that's longer than six weeks. She must not be very creative, or is just very passive. But anyway, that's beside the point. It's pretty crappy to talk badly about your husband behind his back to some guy at the gym, even if you're shopping around. :-\
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It's pretty crappy to talk badly about your husband behind his back to some guy at the gym, even if you're shopping around. :-\
ding ding ding
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I've been a PT for a year now......
Many experiences, many clients.......
I'm going to get my NASM, then I'll be set to do whatever I want wherever I want.
Right now I've got the NCCPT.
I sense your discomfort baby Kenneth.
I know which clients I can have adult conversations with and which ones are better left to shoptalk.
It's not hard to see the difference.
DIV
Yes, I figured you were new to PT.
Knny's point is extremely valid, it all seems good now, but one day it could backfire.
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one day you'll be saying to yourself "i shouldn't have done that"
I would have phrased...."one day you'll be telling us"...but I know you better than that.
You might be right, Kenneth.
Though, I have always trusted my judgement and it's gotten me through alot more trying situations than this.
Give me some credit, bro.
It's pretty crappy to talk badly about your husband behind his back to some guy at the gym, even if you're shopping around. :-\
She apologized for her candor the next day, though I brushed it off because I won't fault a woman for being honest with me.
I don't know if she's shopping around, but I think she's attracted to me because of how she reacts when I touch her........
I don't think she sees me as just "some guy" at the gym, or she wouldn't reveal what she has already.
There's more there.........
Yes, I figured you were new to PT.
Knny's point is extremely valid, it all seems good now, but one day it could backfire.
Well, CQ, this isn't a career path.
It's a hobby.
I'm a Psychology major and I also study general pharmacology with a specific interest in anabolics.
One day "it" could backfire?
What?
I'm the same person when I train as when I'm off.
I don't believe in wearing a mask.
If that's seen as being unprofessional, so be it.
I won't compromise myself for a job....
DIV
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She apologized for her candor the next day, though I brushed it off because I won't fault a woman for being honest with me.
I don't know if she's shopping around, but I think she's attracted to me because of how she reacts when I touch her........
I don't think she sees me as just "some guy" at the gym, or she wouldn't reveal what she has already.
There's more there.........
DIV
There's a difference between being honest, and being disloyal to someone you've exchanged vows with. Those are the kind of details about a married couple's personal life that shouldn't be shared with people you've just met at the gym, regardless of the rapport ;) you might share. Even if she's at the point of shopping around for someone with better "gas milage" it's just wrong imo.
Didn't you have this same kind of rapport with some 17-year-old (intellectually mature :-X ) chicka who was having issues with her money honey? :-\ I have found that people who start friendships by confiding and spilling their personal weaknesses and needs, usually end up being big takers and not so much givers... but again, maybe that's just my opinion. I hope you aren't preying on their weaknesses, even if it's subconscious, because it makes you feel good to be in the role of confidant.
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There's a difference between being honest, and being disloyal to someone you've exchanged vows with. Those are the kind of details about a married couple's personal life that shouldn't be shared with people you've just met at the gym, regardless of the rapport ;) you might share. Even if she's at the point of shopping around for someone with better "gas milage" it's just wrong imo.
Didn't you have this same kind of rapport with some 17-year-old (intellectually mature :-X ) chicka who was having issues with her money honey? :-\ I have found that people who start friendships by confiding and spilling their personal weaknesses and needs, usually end up being big takers and not so much givers... but again, maybe that's just my opinion. I hope you aren't preying on their weaknesses, even if it's subconscious, because it makes you feel good to be in the role of confidant.
I'm not one to judge her relationship, but I will listen and give observations based on what she tells me.
I am a confidant for some and that probably won't change.
Life goes on.
DIV
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I'm not one to judge her relationship, but I will listen and give observations based on what she tells me.
I am a confidant for some and that probably won't change.
Life goes on.
DIV
Let me get out my yoga mat. :)
Since you only favor the mud room entrance, you shouldn't be advising women how to get their love. Am I wrong? Please let all the women know how your obsession translates to us. :)
Life does go on... meaning what? You said lovemaking technique is innate, and then said that it's something you learn. Should you keep posting? Or think?
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Let me get out my yoga mat. :)
Since you only favor the mud room entrance, you shouldn't be advising women how to get their love. Am I wrong? Please let all the women know how your obsession translates to us. :)
Life does go on... meaning what? You said lovemaking technique is innate, and then said that it's something you learn. Should you keep posting? Or think?
I advised her that her husband's issue has do with him, not her persay and that a man's skills are innate.
Anyone can learn a skill, but the best lovers are intuitive and that is something that can never be learned from a book.
Mudroom entrance?
What are you talking about?
You'd be better served by saying exactly what you mean instead of using euphemisms.
Women in general would be better served that way, actually.
DIV
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I like the whole mudroom slang Dee uses
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I like the whole mudroom slang Dee uses
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lol. :)
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I like the whole mudroom slang Dee uses
;)
You are more like a woman in some ways, Kenneth.
I'm honest with my clients.
If they ask, I'm going to give them my opinion.
...........and boy do they ask. :P
DIV
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There's a difference between being honest, and being disloyal to someone you've exchanged vows with. Those are the kind of details about a married couple's personal life that shouldn't be shared with people you've just met at the gym, regardless of the rapport ;) you might share. Even if she's at the point of shopping around for someone with better "gas milage" it's just wrong imo.
:o ...and Playboy calls ME a tease. ::)
Div, if she's looking to get better gas mileage, send her to me.
I can't help her with her issues with her hubby, ...but I've got just the thing to help her get more miles per gallon
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This is an interesting one. Her trying to pick you up is wrong as a married woman. I do find her abuse of the client/trainer relationship a nice twist on things.
True Premature ejaculation can be unlearned as a couple. Her husband could just get a little help but it would take real commitment on her part to bring the problem up in a way that salvaged his ego. She could also take one for the team and jump his bones in a half hour or so as we all know the second time around lasts longer. My point is that it's a problem that requires a couple soloution.
Some guy (I'm too lazy to look up his name) surmised that PE is a genetic survival mechanism. Apparently the pH change after female orgasm is too low and kills a lot of the sperm. Essentially a premature ejaculate has a much better chance of making a baby.
Everyone that deals with people in vulnerable positions eventually has to develop boundaries. Good boundaries protect the doctor, trainer, patient, money, etc... We all deal with people who will BS us. Once a hottie tried the old "I just broke up with my boyfriend and just want someone to hang with" line on me. I wished her good luck and watched as she rode away with her boyfriend, LOL! I get why she'd want to trade up just not why she'd think a guy like me would fall for something like that. A man's two biggest enemies in a situation like that are his ego and penis, no joke. :)
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Some guy (I'm too lazy to look up his name) surmised that PE is a genetic survival mechanism. Apparently the pH change after female orgasm is too low and kills a lot of the sperm. Essentially a premature ejaculate has a much better chance of making a baby.
Sounds like some guy made up an excuse to keep premature ejaculators from getting cut off... permanently.
A man's two biggest enemies in a situation like that are his ego and penis, no joke. :)
True dat! :D
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Sounds like some guy made up an excuse to keep premature ejaculators from getting cut off... permanently.
True dat! :D
Animals that were prey don't have time for romance, LOL! Also the external os dips into the cervix during the female orgasm and siphons some vaginal fluid. The pH difference is more than the swimmers can handle.
Funny thing is..... none of the women here called her out for hitting on the trainer. Most of you recognize that she was using buying power on a semi-captive audience to broach a touchy subject. The girl was fishing for Div but didn't have the right bait. :)
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Animals that were prey don't have time for romance, LOL! Also the external os dips into the cervix during the female orgasm and siphons some vaginal fluid. The pH difference is more than the swimmers can handle.
what's an 'os'?
The girl was fishing for Div but didn't have the right bait. :)
::) Or so he would have us believe. :-\
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Div, if she's looking to get better gas mileage, send her to me.
I can't help her with her issues with her hubby, ...but I've got just the thing to help her get more miles per gallon
....you missed the whole point of the post.
True Premature ejaculation can be unlearned as a couple. Her husband could just get a little help but it would take real commitment on her part to bring the problem up in a way that salvaged his ego. She could also take one for the team and jump his bones in a half hour or so as we all know the second time around lasts longer. My point is that it's a problem that requires a couple soloution.
That's the real issue, bringing it up in a way that doesn't scar the male's ego. Most women don't know how to handle that because as women they can't identify with a male's perspective and the prospect of being told how to fix a problem that is intrinsically male.
Some guy (I'm too lazy to look up his name) surmised that PE is a genetic survival mechanism. Apparently the pH change after female orgasm is too low and kills a lot of the sperm. Essentially a premature ejaculate has a much better chance of making a baby.
Animals that were prey don't have time for romance, LOL! Also the external os dips into the cervix during the female orgasm and siphons some vaginal fluid. The pH difference is more than the swimmers can handle.
It's an animal survival mechanism, true, and to some degree I think it applies to the base instincts in man. Of course there are deeper psychological issues at work here and perhaps in this specific case there are external behavioural factors (which is my belief) but I truly give some credence to the physiological aspects of PE.
Everyone that deals with people in vulnerable positions eventually has to develop boundaries. Good boundaries protect the doctor, trainer, patient, money, etc... We all deal with people who will BS us. Once a hottie tried the old "I just broke up with my boyfriend and just want someone to hang with" line on me. I wished her good luck and watched as she rode away with her boyfriend, LOL! I get why she'd want to trade up just not why she'd think a guy like me would fall for something like that. A man's two biggest enemies in a situation like that are his ego and penis, no joke. :)
Trading up........heh......as if it's that easy.
Women sometimes make the biggest mistake in thinking that all guys are alike and that they'd fall for something so simple.
Women and assumptions.
As far as the ego and penis...........
With the amount of women I train and my specific taste in women, a blond tan woman with three kids in tow isn't going to have much of a chance to dent my standards.
My egoism, if it can be called that, is invested in the fact that my penis doesn't control my brain.
This is an interesting one. Her trying to pick you up is wrong as a married woman. I do find her abuse of the client/trainer relationship a nice twist on things.
Funny thing is..... none of the women here called her out for hitting on the trainer. Most of you recognize that she was using buying power on a semi-captive audience to broach a touchy subject. The girl was fishing for Div but didn't have the right bait. :)
I'm not sure if it's a conscious thought on her part or if it's just that she finds me attractive and captive leading to the whole transference scenario but I don't fault her for it.
I've already told her that she isn't my type and that I'd never date a woman with kids.
::) Or so he would have us believe. :-\
......I don't know you and I really don't care what you believe or disbelief.
You're another handle on a website, but one who takes great care in wanting me to invest more of my keystrokes on you.
There. :-X
DIV
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....you missed the whole point of the post.
uh-huh... on purpose too.
You're another handle on a website, but one who takes great care in wanting me to invest more of my keystrokes on you.
There. :-X
DIV
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Actually Div I really wish you wouldn't. I would love for this mastubatory egofest of a thread to end.
If you re-read my previous comment to Deedee, you'll know why I even bothered to continue to post in it. Sheesh ::)
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uh-huh... on purpose too.
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Actually Div I really wish you wouldn't. I would love for this mastubatory egofest of a thread to end.
If you re-read my previous comment to Deedee, you'll know why I even bothered to continue to post in it. Sheesh ::)
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Judi,
Os = technical name for cervical opening. It dips into the vagina (some geek actually did a video/study of this) during orgasm and can siphon up some of the fluid. The pH goes down after orgasm in that region but swimmers need an alkaline environment to live a little longer. A premature ejaculator has a way greater chance of his DNA being passed on. I shouldn't have gotten all technical. My only point was that there is an evolutionary benefit to PE beyond Div's psych example.
Back to the original idea. Usually, when someone (of the opposite) brings up a sexual dysfunction/problem it is a tacit invitation. Not saying they always want sex, a lot of times all they want is to feel the rush people get from being asked. But you really can't argue that a person saying I can't have an orgasm in a certain way isn't a challenge.
There's no other reason to mention an issue that personal to anyone, other than a therapist, beyond challenging them to give you an orgasm. At least Div was nice about it, LOL! If I were out drinking and a married chick pulled some crap like that I'd suggest she was the problem. :) You know, LOL! Intimacy issues. If the woman was single, hot and I was available... "maybe you're just so good men can't control themselves" is the only correct response. :)
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You are more like a woman in some ways, Kenneth.
I'm honest with my clients.
If they ask, I'm going to give them my opinion.
...........and boy do they ask. :P
DIV
Not everbody is entitled to an answer let a lone an honest answer.
*Especially on certain topics*
Actually my friend....you're more like the girl.
You blab & blab like your in high school.
Men don't do that. Hope this helps.
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Don't talk about sex with your clients................. .period
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Women sometimes make the biggest mistake in thinking that all guys are alike and that they'd fall for something so simple.
Women and assumptions.
DIV
potso...meet kettle. ;) You know every single woman on earth? You've met EVERY woman in the universe? Wow! :o
btw... Mike is right. Very bad idea to talk about sex with clients, (even if it strokes your ego.)
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potso...meet kettle. ;) You know every single woman on earth? You've met EVERY woman in the universe? Wow! :o
btw... Mike is right. Very bad idea to talk about sex with clients, (even if it strokes your ego.)
In this case, an inflated one.
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Actually Div I really wish you wouldn't. I would love for this mastubatory egofest of a thread to end.
If you re-read my previous comment to Deedee, you'll know why I even bothered to continue to post in it. Sheesh ::)
......and continue to post in it.
I rest my case.
Back to the original idea. Usually, when someone (of the opposite) brings up a sexual dysfunction/problem it is a tacit invitation. Not saying they always want sex, a lot of times all they want is to feel the rush people get from being asked. But you really can't argue that a person saying I can't have an orgasm in a certain way isn't a challenge.
There's no other reason to mention an issue that personal to anyone, other than a therapist, beyond challenging them to give you an orgasm. At least Div was nice about it, LOL! If I were out drinking and a married chick pulled some crap like that I'd suggest she was the problem. :) You know, LOL! Intimacy issues. If the woman was single, hot and I was available... "maybe you're just so good men can't control themselves" is the only correct response. :)
Well it's a tacit inviation, obviously, esp considering her body language.
I tend to think she's relieved she can discuss this with someone other than other wives and get an honest appraisal of the situation.
I don't think she expects anything to happen on my part.
Not everbody is entitled to an answer let a lone an honest answer.
*Especially on certain topics*
Actually my friend....you're more like the girl.
You blab & blab like your in high school.
Men don't do that. Hope this helps.
Actually, Kenneth, I tend to give honest answers to whomever asks.
Last time I checked I was very much the male, esp at the gym I train at.
I'm one of two lifters, the other trainers are more "fitness" oriented.
potso...meet kettle. ;) You know every single woman on earth? You've met EVERY woman in the universe? Wow! :o
btw... Mike is right. Very bad idea to talk about sex with clients, (even if it strokes your ego.)
I've known enough women, of the same variety to guage them and what they mean when they say what they think they want, but only really know what they want at that particular second, not really any indicator of what they really want or think they want longterm.
That's women.
As Jack Nicholson said.......take a man and negate his reason, logic and accountability and you have a woman.
He's right.
DIV
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I've known enough women, of the same variety to guage them and what they mean when they say what they think they want, but only really know what they want at that particular second, not really any indicator of what they really want or think they want longterm.
That's women.
As Jack Nicholson said.......take a man and negate his reason, logic and accountability and you have a woman.
He's right.
DIV
Based on your logic, we can safely deduce from your variety of posts that you only meet troubled women. Perhaps you need to look within and wonder why that is. :)
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hey Div if it was Rose McGowan asking the questions would you bend it over your office desk?
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hey Div if it was Rose McGowan asking the questions would you bend it over your office desk?
Twice!!!!!!!!!!!
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Back to the original idea. Usually, when someone (of the opposite) brings up a sexual dysfunction/problem it is a tacit invitation. Not saying they always want sex, a lot of times all they want is to feel the rush people get from being asked. But you really can't argue that a person saying I can't have an orgasm in a certain way isn't a challenge.
There's no other reason to mention an issue that personal to anyone, other than a therapist, beyond challenging them to give you an orgasm.
Ahhh... but you're failing to take into account the 180 degree differences between Mars & Venus.
When men openly discuss challenges, or problems, ...their instinct is to 'fix it' or to 'offer the solution'. As a result, when 'men' start a discussion about a problem, ...they ARE looking for the other person to help them fix it.
When women openly discuss challenges, or problems, ...most often we are NOT looking for the person to 'fix it', ...most often, we simply want to go through the process of venting... getting it off our chests... and having someone listen. That's it. No invitation... just a neutral sounding board. It's bad enough she has to deal with the PE, ...if she voices or vents her frustration to her partner, ...she'll be dealing with PE AND ED as well. :-\
I sometimes really have to wonder about men. {sigh} A woman pays them a compliment, or smiles in their direction, ...and automatically they assume 'She wants me'. If you're having a great day, ...you dare not show it... you have to walk around with a scowl on your face 24/7, and be an absolute _itch all the time for 'some' guys to not get the wrong impression. That's probably why I like married men so much... they're way safer.
LOL! If I were out drinking and a married chick pulled some crap like that I'd suggest she was the problem. :) You know, LOL! Intimacy issues. If the woman was single, hot and I was available... "maybe you're just so good men can't control themselves" is the only correct response. :)
{LOL} A cad til the end. :D
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Update: Tonight during another no-show in my schedule, the married woman (with the premature ejaculating hubby) discussed her hair and overall features. S
Because I recommended she go back to her natural color, dark brown, she went on to describe how thick her hair is, being Greek, and that she has to use a flat iron to straighten it. She described her hair as being naturaly afro-like.
I do indeed think she's shopping and I may be her sirloin steak....
I'm just a bit amazed at how the situation has developed.
True transference...... :-X
Based on your logic, we can safely deduce from your variety of posts that you only meet troubled women. Perhaps you need to look within and wonder why that is. :)
You can read anything in to my interactions if your motivations and biases are aimed the right way, but it doesn't make your observation accurate.
There is no reason to look inward.
Life isn't that hard if you know yourself.
People ask questions.
You answer.
Simple.
It's always people on the outside looking in that have something to say, isn't it?
hey Div if it was Rose McGowan asking the questions would you bend it over your office desk?
I would have eaten Rose McGowan with some A-1 steak sauce.
DIV
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Div,
I find it funny that the dilema here is that she doesn't suit your tastes.
Whatever you do.. don't let the people here goad you into having some fun with her.
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Div,
I find it funny that the dilema here is that she doesn't suit your tastes.
Whatever you do.. don't let the people here goad you into having some fun with her.
Not exactly, Jake.
Her natural hair color is dark brown, but she lightened it for her husband.
She's naturally pale, but she tanned for her husband.
If she was stayed naturally what she was, she'd be my type....
I feel you, people here are trying to goad me in to their type of thinking, but you know me and that just won't happen.
Another trip to B-more may be in order..... :-X
DIV
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Not exactly, Jake.
Her natural hair color is dark brown, but she lightened it for her husband.
She's naturally pale, but she tanned for her husband.
If she was stayed naturally what she was, she'd be my type....
I feel you, people here are trying to goad me in to their type of thinking, but you know me and that just won't happen.
Another trip to B-more may be in order..... :-X
DIV
Are you suggesting our boy needs an intervention? My mind went to the same place as yours when he had the head shaved.
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ATTA BOY
go get her tiger
::)
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.....of what I was talking about in the Trainer thread.
One of my clients told me about her soon to be ex-husband's premature ejaculation issue which precluded her from achieving orgasm during the tenure of their marriage.
I told her it was a mental block and had nothing to do with her persay, but probably stemmed from his upbrining in a repressive Christian household.
He had been the only man she'd had sex with, so she'd never experienced orgasm and no matter what tips she gave him, nothing worked.
Her response to me......."he tried".....
My response to her........" ;D".......
I feel bad for men who have neithe the equipment nor ability to please a female, because it should be innate, something you learn along the way.
I shake my head and tell her that she'll need to find a man who is experienced sexually if she ever wants to see what an orgasm is like...........get the feeling she's almost looking to me for that.
A subtle case of transference, but I'm only trying to mentor her, not have sex with her.
The hard part would be telling her no if she makes it clear later she wants sex from me.
DIV
Interesting contradiction. I hope you've got the equipment because the mindplay seems to be lacking. :-\
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Ahhh... but you're failing to take into account the 180 degree differences between Mars & Venus.
Grey is an idiot.
{LOL} A cad til the end. :D
I am a man and can see no real harm in letting someone you want to have some fun with feel in control.
Besides... a smarter woman already knows you're feeding her ego in a situation like that. Just walking up to someone and asking for sex would get boring after a while and it could not give most people the boost in self esteem these stupid games provide. You also must remember that many cannot handle the vulnerability such frank honesty entails.
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Interesting contradiction. I hope you've got the equipment because the mindplay seems to be lacking. :-\
I'm not trying to pick her up.
She's simply feeling me out and letting me know she's available (or will be after her papers are final) and seeing if I am interested.
That's tough analysis coming from a chimp.
Shouldn't you be hiding in the jungles somewhere instead of telling me how to be me? :-X
Grey is an idiot.
I am a man and can see no real harm in letting someone you want to have some fun with feel in control.
Besides... a smarter woman already knows you're feeding her ego in a situation like that. Just walking up to someone and asking for sex would get boring after a while and it could not give most people the boost in self esteem these stupid games provide. You also must remember that many cannot handle the vulnerability such frank honesty entails.
She's smart but naive in the ways of how people are due to her getting married at such a young age. She's never had good sex and her husband is clueless. He has PE
As bad as it sounds, I almost feel like it would be a public service to nurture her sexuality and bring it up to speed.
Then at least she'd have something good to compare to in future laisons.
She alread growing out her roots and asked me about my preference of women's grooming habits.
Subtle hints.............nudges .........from a Greek girl.
DIV
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Div,
I can smell trouble from here.
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Div,
I can smell trouble from here.
Specifically, what do you sense Jake?
Speak now or forever live in infamy. :-X
DIV
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Specifically, what do you sense Jake?
Speak now or forever live in infamy. :-X
DIV
I can smell drama, LOL!
Only a matter of time before curiosity gets the best of you. :)
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I can smell drama, LOL!
Only a matter of time before curiosity gets the best of you. :)
No drama, nugg.
What makes you think I'd ever get tossed up in that?
Today after our session she gave me her cell number and told me "to call her if I got any earlier openings on Friday".
After the conversations over her bush, and desire for broadened sexual horizons, I'd say there's more intent there than a simple re-schedule.
I've never met any woman who revealed the details of her hair, here and there without some other intentions behind it.
I suppose she's waiting now.......
It might be time to show her the Darkside.
DIV
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No drama, nugg.
What makes you think I'd ever get tossed up in that?
Today after our session she gave me her cell number and told me "to call her if I got any earlier openings on Friday".
After the conversations over her bush, and desire for broadened sexual horizons, I'd say there's more intent there than a simple re-schedule.
I've never met any woman who revealed the details of her hair, here and there without some other intentions behind it.
I suppose she's waiting now.......
It might be time to show her the Darkside.
DIV
Why do you feel the "need" to puke that on a muscle board? I'm not being an ass, it's very "needy"...
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Why do you feel the "need" to puke that on a muscle board? I'm not being an ass, it's very "needy"...
Lil' Alex, this is the female discussion board, it has nothing to do with the other forums.
Considering the fact that you lurk in teh X-board most of the time, you really have no standing to criticize anyone. :-X
DIV
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No drama, nugg.
What makes you think I'd ever get tossed up in that?
Today after our session she gave me her cell number and told me "to call her if I got any earlier openings on Friday".
After the conversations over her bush, and desire for broadened sexual horizons, I'd say there's more intent there than a simple re-schedule.
I've never met any woman who revealed the details of her hair, here and there without some other intentions behind it.
I suppose she's waiting now.......
It might be time to show her the Darkside.
DIV
They all have the same thing so what's the point?
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she wants an earlier appt so she doesn't have to wait as long to see you again
8)
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Lil' Alex, this is the female discussion board, it has nothing to do with the other forums.
Considering the fact that you lurk in teh X-board most of the time, you really have no standing to criticize anyone. :-X
DIV
Hahahah ok Mr "I have a crush on a mormon girl because she's pale and I'm mexicanish" ...
I'm just curious to understand why you feel the need to splat stories like that on the board. Maybe I know her, maybe someone else does....
Epic lack of professionalism.
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Hahahah ok Mr "I have a crush on a mormon girl because she's pale and I'm mexicanish" ...
I'm just curious to understand why you feel the need to splat stories like that on the board. Maybe I know her, maybe someone else does....
Epic lack of professionalism.
I'm only professional if the client is..........once they cross over, I cross over.
......the Darkside, baby Alex.....
DIV
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I'm only professional if the client is..........once they cross over, I cross over.
......the Darkside, baby Alex.....
DIV
I'd rather have the money, LOL!
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I'm only professional if the client is..........once they cross over, I cross over.
......the Darkside, baby Alex.....
DIV
so if they rob somebody..you rob somebody?
if they kill somebody..you kill somebody?
are you that weak man?
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Why do you feel the "need" to puke that on a muscle board? I'm not being an ass, it's very "needy"...
Pretty sad isn't it? I've gone from being bored and annoyed to very embarrassed for him. :-[ :'(
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Pretty sad isn't it? I've gone from being bored and annoyed to very embarrassed for him. :-[ :'(
Harsh words.
Are you experiencing palenis envy? :)
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Harsh words.
Are you experiencing palenis envy? :)
{LOL} No. btw is that even a word? :D
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Pretty sad isn't it? I've gone from being bored and annoyed to very embarrassed for him. :-[ :'(
exactly.
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I'd rather have the money, LOL!
I'm getting paid to train her, that's not the issue.
What other money are you speaking of, Jake?
I think this topic has revealed an ugly side to Judi that I'd only seen briefly before.
I suppose this forum should go back to Stella's fashion accessory threads.
so if they rob somebody..you rob somebody?
if they kill somebody..you kill somebody?
are you that weak man?
Your black and white thinking on this matter is duly noted, Kenneth.
I just don't agree with you on this topic.
I'm professional with my clients as a rule, yet this situation has transcended the trainer/client relationship and I don't have an issue with it.
She called me today in the afternoon and wanted to do lunch.
She was willing to come over to my apartment, but even I didn't think that was appropriate at this stage.
Everyone has a darkside, Kenneth and I have seen yours all too well.
Pretty sad isn't it? I've gone from being bored and annoyed to very embarrassed for him. :-[ :'(
You've been so bored and annoyed by my thread that you were just compelled to post....
Per usual, your words betray your actions.
It must hurt you to know I don't value your opinions.
Welcome to your personal house of pain.
DIV
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I'm getting paid to train her, that's not the issue.
What other money are you speaking of, Jake?
I think this topic has revealed an ugly side to Judi that I'd only seen briefly before.
I suppose this forum should go back to Stella's fashion accessory threads.
Your black and white thinking on this matter is duly noted, Kenneth.
I just don't agree with you on this topic.
I'm professional with my clients as a rule, yet this situation has transcended the trainer/client relationship and I don't have an issue with it.
She called me today in the afternoon and wanted to do lunch.
She was willing to come over to my apartment, but even I didn't think that was appropriate at this stage.
Everyone has a darkside, Kenneth and I have seen yours all too well.
You've been so bored and annoyed by my thread that you were just compelled to post....
Per usual, your words betray your actions.
It must hurt you to know I don't value your opinions.
Welcome to your personal house of pain.
DIV
"Triple quote meltdown" ...
bro get the cue.. your little gym crushes on white women are in the domain of nobody cares.
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"Triple quote meltdown" ...
bro get the cue.. your little gym crushes on white women are in the domain of nobody cares.
Looks like Judi has a roomate. :)
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"Triple quote meltdown" ...
bro get the cue.. your little gym crushes on white women are in the domain of nobody cares.
You care so much, nugga, that you keep replying to my thread.
Show me love and keep up the support.
Do you consider it a crush if a woman wants to give you sex on your terms?
If that's a crush, to quote the late great Big Pun, "I'm not a player, I just crush alot".
I sense some racial heat in your response.
You don't like it that white women give me play?
That's your issue.
Take your shit to teh X...... ;D
Looks like Judi has a roomate. :)
I sense the beginnings of an intervention amidst the Girl Talk Forum.
Baby Alexis and Judi sharing common ground is right up there with Oprah and Don Imus sharing vaginal secretions.
DIV
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It's a little sad people can't leave old arguments off at least one forum.
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It's a little sad people can't leave old arguments off at least one forum.
what old arguments on which "forum", "doc" ?
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what old arguments on which "forum", "doc" ?
It's a slow one, LOL!
Give it time. :)
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It's a little sad people can't leave old arguments off at least one forum.
That bitch is tryin' to bring old drama to a new forum.
That in itself is the "meltdown".
DIV
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That bitch is tryin' to bring old drama to a new forum.
That in itself is the "meltdown".
DIV
Good thing you aren't pushing any buttons.
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Good thing you aren't pushing any buttons.
Are you bored? :)
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Are you bored? :)
No.
Just naughty. :)
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No.
Just naughty. :)
There's nothing left to talk aboout except coffee and laura. Sucks. But there it is. No disrespect to you Laura.
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There's nothing left to talk aboout except coffee and laura. Sucks. But there it is. No disrespect to you Laura.
I could think of a few non-inflammatory topics. :)
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Good thing you aren't pushing any buttons.
For some, me being her is pushing buttons in itself.
I think it's good some of these people don't know me in person.
They'd never be able to tolerate my ways.
DIV