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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: El Diablo Blanco on August 28, 2007, 06:30:22 AM
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I usually only drink water during my workout but this time I tried the milos shake. I mixed some Nutrex Vitargo, some powder BCAAS and added Twin Lab liquid Aminos. I started sipping before I started flat bench and by the last set I got a little stomach cramp. but I moved on Then I was doing inclines and felt the shits coming on. By the time I finished I did my first set of dumbell fly's , I had to drop the weights and run to the bathroom to take a crap. Last time I try to ingest anything while I am working out. No wonder all those fools on that Milos training video vomitted during their workouts.
I'll stick with water during my workouts and ingest this stuff afterwards.
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maybe it was the 55 pound db's you were using for inclines, "mon of steele".
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Yes, but you did not try 'his' shake....Milos sent me supplement and I tried and it was fine.
REMEMBER....DONT USE DURING ON LEG DAY...CAN MAKE U SICK (confirm this with Milos, it is a precaution i take).
U made it urself maybe the mix fucked it for u, package i got was fine.
I am preparing for Aussie Grand Prix 2008 March with these supps...look out...
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Yes, but you did not try 'his' shake....Milos sent me supplement and I tried and it was fine.
REMEMBER....DONT USE DURING ON LEG DAY...CAN MAKE U SICK.
U made it urself maybe the mix fucked it for u, package i got was fine.
agreed. you tried the milos RECIPE, dude. sounds like you f'cked it up.
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agreed. you tried the milos RECIPE, dude. sounds like you f'cked it up.
yes thats rite.
Before when i was campaigning against the product and made my own, it made me want to throw up and shit my pants at the same time (very bad feeling when trying to lift weights).
The Milos supplement was fine.... even during workout. BE careful making ur own....can ruin workout.
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I tried the original recipe that he stated in FLEX and on here a couple months ago.
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maybe it was the 55 pound db's you were using for inclines, "mon of steele".
It was 45's, I wasn't maxing out yesterday. :P
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yes thats rite.
Before when i was campaigning against the product and made my own, it made me want to throw up and shit my pants at the same time (very bad feeling when trying to lift weights).
The Milos supplement was fine.... even during workout. BE careful making ur own....can ruin workout.
What is different between his product and the recipe he gave out? I agree, it made me feel ill.
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I tried the original recipe that he stated in FLEX and on here a couple months ago.
ooh - anyone have that? i wanna see it
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What is different between his product and the recipe he gave out? I agree, it made me feel ill.
it must have something to do with the production of the product (i guess thats why companies are called professional) cos when i did the same as you, shit was f'd up.
its like when u get the ingredients of things and put them together for other things (whether food or supplements, etc) some things just dont workout when done at home. (eg- my attempt to make 'protein bars' at home was a disaster)
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Does Milos send any free trials??seriously
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Does Milos send any free trials??seriously
I bought. but expect him to give me some too.
This is the 'experiment' to end the debate in the past.
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for all those that don't know:
D.L.5 & MILOS:"THE UNITY TOUR" WILL BE IN MARCH 08 AUSTRALIA
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Do I have to order it from his gym? whats the web site? i m really gonna give that a try
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Do I have to order it from his gym? whats the web site? i m really gonna give that a try
They are sold out... When Milos logs in, I am sure he will inform you when the next stock is ready to sell.
the site is www.milossarcev.com and go to the store.
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They are sold out... When Milos logs in, I am sure he will inform you when the next stock is ready to sell.
the site is www.milossarcev.com and go to the store.
ill check it out,thx man
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ill check it out,thx man
no probs.
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Id like to 'open a set' on his wife
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ill check it out,thx man
i forgot that Milos answered my question already about this. here it is:
Quote from: D.L. 5 on Today at 12:56:11 AM
"Milos when is next batch of supplements ready?"
Milos_Sarcev: I'll have it for the Olympia (KNS will have a booth at the Olympia expo)...and I will consider all serious distributors from around the world...while for US my partner and I are still debating IF we will go to retail market right away or just "wait for a while"...
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I never understood the rational of taking supplements while working out
by the time that it is digested it is time for the post work out shake
and for most "average" getbigger I can't see it making that much of a difference
*on a side note in one of Squadfather's post he mentioned Univeral Nutrition EAA. I gave it a shot, that shit makes any PWO shakes taste horrible..but after a while you get use to it
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i forgot that Milos answered my question already about this. here it is:
Quote from: D.L. 5 on Today at 12:56:11 AM
"Milos when is next batch of supplements ready?"
Milos_Sarcev: I'll have it for the Olympia (KNS will have a booth at the Olympia expo)...and I will consider all serious distributors from around the world...while for US my partner and I are still debating IF we will go to retail market right away or just "wait for a while"...
cool ill email milos then
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I never understood the rational of taking supplements while working out
by the time that it is digested it is time for the post work out shake
and for most "average" getbigger I can't see it making that much of a difference
*on a side note in one of Squadfather's post he mentioned Univeral Nutrition EAA. I gave it a shot, that shit makes any PWO shakes taste horrible..but after a while you get use to it
I thought about that gigestion time and the pwo shake too,.cant get it ,.but any way ill give it a try and see ,
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cool ill email milos then
Tell him D.L.5 sent you ;)
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Hahahahahahahahaa!!!!!!
You are all turds trying to outsmart your shitty genetics with bullshit supplements.
There are two ways, and two ways only....to GET BIG.
A Have good genetics
B Take steroids
Other than that you are wasting your fucking time, go play tennis
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Tell him D.L.5 sent you ;)
hahaha,.ill do that
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hahaha,.ill do that
awesome!
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Hahahahahahahahaa!!!!!!
You are all turds trying to outsmart your shitty genetics with bullshit supplements.
There are two ways, and two ways only....to GET BIG.
A Have good genetics
B Take steroids
Other than that you are wasting your fucking time, go play tennis
I dont have bad genetics, but thanks for ur concern.
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Hahahahahahahahaa!!!!!!
You are all turds trying to outsmart your shitty genetics with bullshit supplements.
There are two ways, and two ways only....to GET BIG.
A Have good genetics
B Take steroids
Other than that you are wasting your fucking time, go play tennis
Groink, seriously, being big is relative..most people are not under the delusion that they will ever be big enough to step on a bodybuilding stage.
with that said, somethings do promote growth of lean muscle..such as lifting heavy and eating right
not everyone wants to take steriods for the hell of it and to impress the people as the local bar and post pics on getbig
yeah yeah, call us swimmers if you insist...but don't mock us with your BS..especially from someone that has admitted to not being a lifetime natural.
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Groink, seriously, being big is relative..most people are not under the delusion that they will ever be big enough to step on a bodybuilding stage.
with that said, somethings do promote growth of lean muscle..such as lifting heavy and eating right
not everyone wants to take steriods for the hell of it and to impress the people as the local bar and post pics on getbig
yeah yeah, call us swimmers if you insist...but don't mock us with your BS..especially from someone that has admitted to not being a lifetime natural.
When did I say that?
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When did I say that?
I think he is calling you a juicer 'groink'....retaliation is a must
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When did I say that?
if you didn't then I stand corrected...but I thought that I remember that when you were part of the Squad and then your departure that this came to light.
I apologize if my memory fails me
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if you didn't then I stand corrected...but I thought that I remember that when you were part of the Squad and then your departure that this came to light.
I apologize if my memory fails me
Your'e wrong S.P.
PS Just fucking around, feel like being an asshole today. I encourage everyone to hit the weights.
But i do think that 99% of supplements are bullshit
PPS I'm gonna give you a free pass not even call you "obsessed" because you posted some history about me ;D
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Your'e wrong S.P.
PS Just fucking around, feel like being an asshole today. I encourage everyone to hit the weights.
But i do think that 99% of supplements are bullshit
I agree...but I believe that the standard carb based pwo shake has proven to work..lol.. let an aging fool cling to his beliefs.
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Your'e wrong S.P.
PS Just fucking around, feel like being an asshole today. I encourage everyone to hit the weights.
But i do think that 99% of supplements are bullshit
PPS I'm gonna give you a free pass not even call you "obsessed" because you posted some history about me ;D
Random outburst are normal at getbig.
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he is neggin you, demonstrating higher social value
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I agree...but I believe that the standard carb based pwo shake has proven to work..lol.. let an aging fool cling to his beliefs.
Let's have an actual civilized discussion here...
You say "proven to work".
define that.
That's the thing that irritates me the most about these supplements and the people that use them.
They always say "i got good results" or "my muscles felt fuller". or some other ambigous statement that really doesn't say if they actually put on muscle or not.
The only OTC supplements that were ever "Proven to work" were the PH's of the late 90's and early 2000's because they were actually steroids.
Creatine basically bloats you and give you added strength because the water retention gives youre muscless a bigger cross section, but it's not lean muscle.
All this Green Bulge, White semen and the rest is all garbage, does nothing.
IMO ;D
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he is neggin you, demonstrating higher social value
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I think you got sick from the creatine. I can't even take NO-Explode before a workout without getting sick. I once took 5 grams of pure CEE before a leg workout and I swear I hurt so bad I thought I was going to die, once I threw up the CEE my stomach was fine. I've taken Purple Wraath during my workouts and have not had any problem.
This is based on the assumption that Virtago has creatine in it.
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I usually only drink water during my workout but this time I tried the milos shake. I mixed some Nutrex Vitargo, some powder BCAAS and added Twin Lab liquid Aminos. I started sipping before I started flat bench and by the last set I got a little stomach cramp. but I moved on Then I was doing inclines and felt the shits coming on. By the time I finished I did my first set of dumbell fly's , I had to drop the weights and run to the bathroom to take a crap. Last time I try to ingest anything while I am working out. No wonder all those fools on that Milos training video vomitted during their workouts.
I'll stick with water during my workouts and ingest this stuff afterwards.
You didn't read "my formula" correctly...
You could/should add little bit of paprika and fresh garlic to the mix...and keep it outside on extremely hot sunny day for 42 and a half minutes before you start training.
And always have empty can ready next to you (during your training). In case you have to throw up - just do it in that can - so nothing is wasted...
If you time it properly - you can save considerable amount of money and have DURING and AFTER shake for the price of one...
One that you use during can be reused after the workout IF you just find the way to make yourself vomit...every time you train.
And don't tell anyone - balsamic vinegar and extra virgin olive oil mixed in would make this possible EVERY TIME.
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You didn't read "my formula" correctly...
You could/should add little bit of paprika and fresh garlic to the mix...and keep it outside on extremely hot sunny day for 42 and a half minutes before you start training.
And always have empty can ready next to you (during your training). In case you have to throw up - just do it in that can - so nothing is wasted...
If you time it properly - you can save considerable amount of money and have DURING and AFTER shake for the price of one...
One that you use during can be reused after the workout IF you just find the way to make yourself vomit...every time you train.
And don't tell anyone - balsamic vinegar and extra virgin olive oil mixed in would make this possible EVERY TIME.
LOL,.
Hi Milos, since ur on ,.would like to ask ,what is this product called? ,when will it be availabe? and can it be available on coloseum.com
thanx
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I tried the original recipe that he stated in FLEX and on here a couple months ago.
I tried the same recipe and i must say its been working great for me, the only thing im replacing is vitargo with maltodextrine.
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ooh - anyone have that? i wanna see it
Pre Workout:
3-10g Creatine
3-10g Glutamine
15-20g Essential Amino Acids
15g BCAA
30-50 Vitargo
1tsp electrolyte drink powder
During Workout:
3-5g Creatine
3-10g Glutamine
15-20g Essential Amino Acids
15g BCAA
50 Vitargo
1tsp electrolyte drink powder
Post Workout
3-5g Creatine
3-10g Glutamine
40-50g Whey
50-75 Vitargo
1tsp electrolyte drink powder
There you go
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You didn't read "my formula" correctly...
You could/should add little bit of paprika and fresh garlic to the mix...and keep it outside on extremely hot sunny day for 42 and a half minutes before you start training.
And always have empty can ready next to you (during your training). In case you have to throw up - just do it in that can - so nothing is wasted...
If you time it properly - you can save considerable amount of money and have DURING and AFTER shake for the price of one...
One that you use during can be reused after the workout IF you just find the way to make yourself vomit...every time you train.
And don't tell anyone - balsamic vinegar and extra virgin olive oil mixed in would make this possible EVERY TIME.
Hahahahaahaha!!
All kidding aside Milos, what gains have been made by your clients since using this protocol?
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You will not get a straight answer from him. He has been deflecting all criticism with humour, nice tactic, but it won't fool everyone.
His marketing reports have shown the teens are buying it with their allowance money and thats all he really cares about. Imagine the generation of mass monsters he is creating with his powdered magic formula. If only to be young again.
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Hahahahaahaha!!
All kidding aside Milos, what gains have been made by your clients since using this protocol?
They made incredible gains in size - 0.1 nanogram of lean tissue in only 62 weeks...74.71% better than pizza and a regular coke.
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Pre Workout:
3-10g Creatine
3-10g Glutamine
15-20g Essential Amino Acids
15g BCAA
30-50 Vitargo
1tsp electrolyte drink powder
During Workout:
3-5g Creatine
3-10g Glutamine
15-20g Essential Amino Acids
15g BCAA
50 Vitargo
1tsp electrolyte drink powder
Post Workout
3-5g Creatine
3-10g Glutamine
40-50g Whey
50-75 Vitargo
1tsp electrolyte drink powder
There you go
and you are recommending this for a natty trying to stay lean?
you have to be kidding right? assuming around 400 calories per drink that is 1,200 cals...plus regular meals?
lol..you probably burn about 200 cal per work out..great way to bulk and get fat...also that is way too much creatine
I read one of Lane's paper where he stated that creatine that is used during a work out is what you injested yesterday, I am not sure about the validity but it was interesting reading.
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Forget the shake and adhere to the following formula: more drugs = more results.
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dbol tastes also bitter.
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You will not get a straight answer from him. He has been deflecting all criticism with humour, nice tactic, but it won't fool everyone.
His marketing reports have shown the teens are buying it with their allowance money and thats all he really cares about. Imagine the generation of mass monsters he is creating with his powdered magic formula. If only to be young again.
Well...IF you attended the seminar I organized FOR FREE for all my getbig friends that WOULD LIKE TO ASK ME but can't afford my fees - I bored everyone to tears insisting to EXPLAIN every little detail...But, I guess I need to do this AGAIN and AGAIN every time someone here asks me - as IF I have nothing to hide - why don't I just tell them the difference between my product and everything else?
I said about million times - do I need to do it once again?
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Pre Workout:
3-10g Creatine
3-10g Glutamine
15-20g Essential Amino Acids
15g BCAA
30-50 Vitargo
1tsp electrolyte drink powder
During Workout:
3-5g Creatine
3-10g Glutamine
15-20g Essential Amino Acids
15g BCAA
50 Vitargo
1tsp electrolyte drink powder
Post Workout
3-5g Creatine
3-10g Glutamine
40-50g Whey
50-75 Vitargo
1tsp electrolyte drink powder
There you go
Double or even triple the amounts of everything.....more equals good.
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dbol tastes also bitter.
Not if you mix it with orange juice...
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and you are recommending this for a natty trying to stay lean?
you have to be kidding right? assuming around 400 calories per drink that is 1,200 cals...plus regular meals?
lol..you probably burn about 200 cal per work out..great way to bulk and get fat...also that is way too much creatine
I read one of Lane's paper where he stated that creatine that is used during a work out is what you injested yesterday, I am not sure about the validity but it was interesting reading.
Im not recommending it, am i? Someone asked if it worked, i said its been good for me, and someone else requested the info, so i just copy pasted it. Milos can clear all your doubts since this is supposed to come from flex magazine, written by him.
You can read the original post at http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=111207.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=111207.0)
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They made incredible gains in size - 0.1 nanogram of lean tissue in only 62 weeks...74.71% better than pizza and a regular coke.
Thanks for the quick reply, that tells me all i need to know.
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Here is an article i found in FLEX magazine February 2003,by Milos Sarcev
and it talks about the ingrediants.,
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Im not recommending it, am i? Someone asked if it worked, i said its been good for me, and someone else requested the info, so i just copy pasted it. Milos can clear all your doubts since this is supposed to come from flex magazine, written by him.
You can read the original post at http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=111207.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=111207.0)
I can't afford the $1,500 per session that he charges to ask a question
besides he has trained naturally since the Carter administration (one of the funniest lines on getbig ever, I had to steal it)
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Here is the recomended post workout shake,.
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I can't afford the $1,500 per session that he charges to ask a question
besides he has trained naturally since the Carter administration (one of the funniest lines on getbig ever, I had to steal it)
AAHAHAHAHA!!! "Carter administration".....I once a had roided up sauce monkey tell me, "actually I'm all natural....this whole drugs versus natural is dumb.....all of us are natural. All the chemicals, supplements, food, vitamins and everything come from Earth. That means I'm natural.....I just use drugs."
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Here is an article i found in FLEX magazine February 2003,by Milos Sarcev
and it talks about the ingredients.,
Just reading those ingredients gives me gas. Colosseum Gym must be brimming with flatulence.
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and you are recommending this for a natty trying to stay lean?
you have to be kidding right? assuming around 400 calories per drink that is 1,200 cals...plus regular meals?
lol..you probably burn about 200 cal per work out..great way to bulk and get fat...also that is way too much creatine
I read one of Lane's paper where he stated that creatine that is used during a work out is what you injested yesterday, I am not sure about the validity but it was interesting reading.
His product actually doesn't have any Waxi Maiz or Vitargo. He only adds 10 grams of maltodextrin. He dropped the calories in his shake big time.
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His product actually doesn't have any Waxi Maiz or Vitargo. He only adds 10 grams of maltodextrin. He dropped the calories in his shake big time.
I dropped CARB calories as CARB CRAZE would make many people avoid otherwise nutritional bom of the supplement (my line that is).
I add GATORADE to my PRE and DURING...and also advice additional carbs with both drinks - IF NEEDED!
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I dropped CARB calories as CARB CRAZE would make many people avoid otherwise nutritional bom of the supplement (my line that is).
I add GATORADE to my PRE and DURING...and also advice additional carbs with both drinks - IF NEEDED!
Why did you replace Vitargo with Maltodextrine? You'd get better absorbtion with such a small amount of Vitargo than you would with corn sugar. That corn sugar will just spike your Insulin and create hunger cravings while you workout. If you workout longer than 45 minutes that spike will crash and you'll feel like shit.
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and you are recommending this for a natty trying to stay lean?
you have to be kidding right? assuming around 400 calories per drink that is 1,200 cals...plus regular meals?
lol..you probably burn about 200 cal per work out..great way to bulk and get fat...also that is way too much creatine
I read one of Lane's paper where he stated that creatine that is used during a work out is what you injested yesterday, I am not sure about the validity but it was interesting reading.
Probably burn about 200 cal per workout?
If you just stand up from the bench and pick up the weight to load the bar often enough within one hour of training you'll burn that much...
Imagine how much you could burn if you actually train?
Now imagine how much IF you train with me (giant sets)?
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Whats wrong with the 55's lardo :P?
Nothing if you're a 13 yr old boyscout.
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Probably burn about 200 cal per workout?
If you just stand up from the bench and pick up the weight to load the bar often enough within one hour of training you'll burn that much...
Imagine how much you could burn if you actually train?
Now imagine how much IF you train with me (giant sets)?
Milos makes a good point here. You gotta put gas in the tank, man.
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I tried the original recipe that he stated in FLEX and on here a couple months ago.
i use 2 scoops vitargo cgl, 1 scoop ON whey, 10+ grams ON BCAA'S, water. never had a problem. no cramps, ever.
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I never understood the rational of taking supplements while working out
by the time that it is digested it is time for the post work out shake
and for most "average" getbigger I can't see it making that much of a difference
*on a side note in one of Squadfather's post he mentioned Univeral Nutrition EAA. I gave it a shot, that shit makes any PWO shakes taste horrible..but after a while you get use to it
the way it was explained was that you get 20 times the blood flow than normal to a specific area while training. seems to be the optimum time to supply that area you are working and stimulating. using vitargo for a reason, it doesnt sit in the stomach and digest. it gets absorbed straight away and carried to where it needs to be.
try optimum nutrition bcaa (eaa). no flavor.
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You guys are forgetting the difference anabolics and insulin will make. The average lifter drinking this stuff will gain some muscle, some fat but a Mr. O competitor can gain like 20 pounds of muscle in a few months given genetics and all the shit they're on. Don't believe me check ronnie from 96-97-98. I'm sure he wasn't just "training harder and sleeping more."
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I bored everyone to tears insisting to EXPLAIN every little detail...But, I guess I need to do this AGAIN and AGAIN every time someone here asks me - as IF I have nothing to hide - why don't I just tell them the difference between my product and everything else?
I said about million times - do I need to do it once again?
Milos, a question: you said non-essential amino acids compete with the essential amino acids and reduce the anabolic effect. Why did you add arginine, ornithine and glutamine to the drinks then?
And what evidence do you have for non-essential aminos "competing" with the EAAs? Layne Norton who is a protein researcher challenged this claim but you never answered him.
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Whats wrong with the 55's lardo :P?
translation=you use the 55's for your last work set on inclines.
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55's? Sheeeitt.
Tape a twinkie to the end of one of 'em and SF will curl that bitch until that twinkie is GONE!
THAT'S hardcore.
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I usually only drink water during my workout but this time I tried the milos shake. I mixed some Nutrex Vitargo, some powder BCAAS and added Twin Lab liquid Aminos. I started sipping before I started flat bench and by the last set I got a little stomach cramp. but I moved on Then I was doing inclines and felt the shits coming on. By the time I finished I did my first set of dumbell fly's , I had to drop the weights and run to the bathroom to take a crap. Last time I try to ingest anything while I am working out. No wonder all those fools on that Milos training video vomitted during their workouts.
I'll stick with water during my workouts and ingest this stuff afterwards.
The digestion process takes about 10 to 30 hours.