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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: BayGBM on September 03, 2007, 11:52:54 AM
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Whatever happened to that suit Robby filed against Joe Weider for Weider using Robby’s body in his Weider icon? I remember reading about the suit in the LA times more than a year ago.
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Great question, Bay! I'll be seeing Jeff Everson prior to or during the Olympia and I'll do my best to get an answer unless someone posts the accurate details here before then.
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Does anyone here have the two pix side by side of Robby and Weider striking that same pose? I remember seeing it, either in that LA Times article or posted here a long while ago.
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That is Robinson? I was sure that was Weider all along ;D
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That is Robinson? I was sure that was Weider all along ;D
I thought it was Chuck Norris.
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The logo appears to be a drawing, not a photograph. That means it could be anybody... Robinson's suit didn't stand a snowball's chance in hell. He probably ran out of money and his lawyers bailed, since there's no way they would take on that loser of a case on contingency.
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Funny thing about Robbies claim, is that you can see pics of Joe Weider striking that pose back in the 40's....long before RR ever came along...what a joke.
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Funny thing about Robbies claim, is that you can see pics of Joe Weider striking that pose back in the 40's....long before RR ever came along...what a joke.
THEN POST SOME PICS BOB
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THEN POST SOME PICS BOB
giddyup...
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giddyup...
That's an illustrated picture... How is that proof that Weider struck that pose?
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here's another from 1950...
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here's another from 1950...
I can't tell without the mustache
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here's another from 1950...
That's true but Robby was asked to pose for the sculptor (from what I recall reading a while back).
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That's true but Robby was asked to pose for the sculptor (from what I recall reading a while back).
Even if that's true...he was used as a model, nothing more.
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Even if that's true...he was used as a model, nothing more.
Bob I think we all would have done what he did, I know if my face or body was a symbol of on a multimillion business I would like to have a piece of the cake as well, humans are chancers ;)
I reccon the thing was settled out of court.
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If you ask me RR got off easy. Joe has USED many other pro's bodies in far more degrading fashion.
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Even if that's true...he was used as a model, nothing more.
How do you know Joe Weider didn't build a time machine in the 50's that could travel to the 70's and base his image on Robbie 20 years before his time?
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sorry RR but the original claim was preposterous
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Funny thing about Robbies claim, is that you can see pics of Joe Weider striking that pose back in the 40's....long before RR ever came along...what a joke.
What's your opinion on this:
http://www.louschuler.com/archives/2005/10/disturbing_tren.html
Joe: First the sculptor did me. He did my head and body. I weighed 215 then. But he wasn't a good sculptor, and didn't know anatomy. Even though he had a picture he just couldn't get the definition right. How many sculptors know definition? They don't know an anterior deltoid from a pec. He made my body smooth. Now, granted, I wasn't in hard training, not on drugs, not doing any of that stuff. I was just an in-shape, busy man. You gonna pose for definition under those circumstances, especially with an inept sculptor? The easiest thing for me to do was get Robbie to pose and show him how to add some definition that I didn't have because I wasn't in rock-hard shape. With Robbie, he was able to see the definition and contours, and was able to add to the sculpture.
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What's your opinion on this:
http://www.louschuler.com/archives/2005/10/disturbing_tren.html
Joe: First the sculptor did me. He did my head and body. I weighed 215 then. But he wasn't a good sculptor, and didn't know anatomy. Even though he had a picture he just couldn't get the definition right. How many sculptors know definition? They don't know an anterior deltoid from a pec. He made my body smooth. Now, granted, I wasn't in hard training, not on drugs, not doing any of that stuff. I was just an in-shape, busy man. You gonna pose for definition under those circumstances, especially with an inept sculptor? The easiest thing for me to do was get Robbie to pose and show him how to add some definition that I didn't have because I wasn't in rock-hard shape. With Robbie, he was able to see the definition and contours, and was able to add to the sculpture.
thanks for finding this. models pose for sculptors all the time. models don't pwn the results. RR probably received compensation for his time and should be satisfied with that.
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giddyup...
the haters have been
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The logo appears to be a drawing, not a photograph. That means it could be anybody... Robinson's suit didn't stand a snowball's chance in hell. He probably ran out of money and his lawyers bailed, since there's no way they would take on that loser of a case on contingency.
Even if it is a photo, it is always the photographer that owns the rights of the pics, unless he signs off the rights.
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here they are :
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is this STILL an active case?
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Bob to joe's rescue ::) ::)
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here they are :
That's it. Thanks.
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Robinson just sounds desperate, he has always had a chip on his shoulder
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Bob to joe's rescue ::) ::)
moron.....it's not to tough to figure it out (for anyone else).
IF Robinson was used to model the physique they used, then that's what it is....modeling....let alone, it's a sculpture, which thousands of models have been used in the same manner for artists for years.
If he was under contract at the time, then he was paid for his services.
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moron.....it's not to tough to figure it out (for anyone else).
IF Robinson was used to model the physique they used, then that's what it is....modeling....let alone, it's a sculpture, which thousands of models have been used in the same manner for artists for years.
If he was under contract at the time, then he was paid for his services.
So you are saying, Bob, that if Weider contracts to take your picture, then he has the rights to use them however he sees fit, even as going as far as taking his head and morphing it onto your body? I think it really depends on what type of contract Robby had with Weider and/or with the photographers who took his photos. The contract may or may not be broad enough to allow Weider to do what he did and Robbie may be contesting that point.
Per http://www.ergogenics.org/robbinson.html (http://www.ergogenics.org/robbinson.html): Robinson "never signed a release form that would have permitted his upper body to have been used as it has been by the defendant."
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So you are saying, Bob, that if Weider contracts to take your picture, then he has the rights to use them however he sees fit, even as going as far as taking his head and morphing it onto your body? I think it really depends on what type of contract Robby had with Weider and/or with the photographers who took his photos. The contract may or may not be broad enough to allow Weider to do what he did and Robbie may be contesting that point.
Per http://www.ergogenics.org/robbinson.html (http://www.ergogenics.org/robbinson.html): Robinson "never signed a release form that would have permitted his upper body to have been used as it has been by the defendant."
Bob is says anything and everything to defend the weiders/ifbb regardless of circumstance
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moron.....
why do you have to call names? aren't you the bigger man here? (no pun)
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The real story here is that Joe Weider, the master blaster, the ultimate guru, the father of modern body building, the hawker of muscle building machines and supplements, was using a body double the entire time. Laughable. Talk about a bait and switch. No wonder this sport has no credibility. :-[
Robby will likely lose his suit, if he hasn't already, but by simply outing Joe as a fraud he has won a larger victory.
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where was this claim filed?
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he has won a larger victory.
black, broke and paranoid.
That's 3 great things right there!
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Its to be expected of Joe Weider to do this....he took all the bodybuilders' training principles and made it his own and marketed it and made a fortune labeling it as the Weider Principles.
When I was little and read Joe Weider's Mags, I actually thought Joe Weider looked that way but old age set in and that was the reason why he doesnt look like that anymore. Come to find out, he never looked like any of his fantasy photos or paintings. Yet he calls himself the trainer of champions!
His empire was built using other peoples' ideas, bodies, ect...
It was all a lie to add mistique to Joe Weider and to sell his magazines and Weider products...mega mass, life essence, etc...
I mean Joe brought bodybuilding to the mainstream with the help of Arnold but he wasnt what he claimed to be ....I personally dont believe he is the Trainer of Champions...he placed that moniker on himself to make it appear that he has credibility. No one could have stood in his way anyways....he owned the mags and the orginization....screw with him and your career is screwed...
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where was this claim filed?
LA Superior Court
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Funny thing about Robbies claim, is that you can see pics of Joe Weider striking that pose back in the 40's....long before RR ever came along...what a joke.
stop dissing Robbie! what's your problem? that robby is much more famous and succesfull bodybuilder than you?
i mean you are great bodybuilder and all but just give the man what he deserves! what that takes away from you? Weider brobably paid Robbie to give up the suit...all done in quiet
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moron.....it's not to tough to figure it out (for anyone else).
IF Robinson was used to model the physique they used, then that's what it is....modeling....let alone, it's a sculpture, which thousands of models have been used in the same manner for artists for years.
If he was under contract at the time, then he was paid for his services.
For once I agree with Bob... Robinson's suit is crap. A complete waste of a court's time.
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stop dissing Robbie! what's your problem? that robby is much more famous and succesfull bodybuilder than you?
i mean you are great bodybuilder and all but just give the man what he deserves! what that takes away from you? Weider brobably paid Robbie to give up the suit...all done in quiet
I stated a fact..how is that dissing Robbie?
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RR has a right to file, weider should throw some cash at him because that's what this is about.