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Hey guys,
Dexter Jackson was in my country a while back. He was doing an in store promo. A kid asked him how he took L-glutamine.
Dexter didnt have a clue what L-glutamine was and he asked the host "L - Gluta WUD?"
Whats up with this? If some one told me this I wouldnt believe it to be true.
How can a Pro at that level not know what a basic supplement like L-glutamine is.
I read another report from a Pro (No name so it might be lies) who said that he never even used a vitamin.
You would expect Pro's to be clued up on all of this to a degree.
What do you guys think?
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Hahahaha why would he take supplements ?? That sh i t dont work ...
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Hahahaha why would he take supplements ?? That sh i t dont work ...
hahahaha, I bet this guy believes Jay & Gustavo prepare for the olympia on Gakic and animal pack
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I remember when I used to think the pros took creatine and glutamine and vitamins and no2, man those were the good days...
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I remember when I used to think the pros took creatine and glutamine and vitamins and no2, man those were the good days...
is ironage.us down or something ???
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hahahaha, I bet this guy believes Jay & Gustavo prepare for the olympia on Gakic and animal pack
NO WAY! JAY CUTLER SAID IN NEW OLYMPIA SERIES THAT THE 'MUSCLETECH' MUSCLE STACK WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR TEN POUNDS OF MUSCLE GROWTH! ARE U TELLING ME LIED TO SATISFY HIS SPONSOR????
I am so shocked.... i didnt think the illegal powerful hormones were responsible for the extra edge, i thought it was CREAKIC, LEUKIC, GAKIC, AND SHITIC.
Shame on me
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I know that pro's take loads of gear its obvious.
But even gear works well with supplements.
Gear or No gear the guys would get better results if they used basic supplements.
My point is , Dexter doesnt even know what L-glutamine is...
Surely they use basic products?
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I know that pro's take loads of gear its obvious.
But even gear works well with supplements.
Gear or No gear the guys would get better results if they used basic supplements.
My point is , Dexter doesnt even know what L-glutamine is...
Surely they use basic products?
I dont think dexter jackson knows what a potato is ..
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I dont think dexter jackson knows what a potato is ..
Hahahahahaha yeah he was clueliss I lost total respect for him after meeting him.
He looks awesome but thats where it ends.
Is this a general rule though , due pro's have no idea about basic supplements or is it just Dexter?
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Hey guys,
Dexter Jackson was in my country a while back. He was doing an in store promo. A kid asked him how he took L-glutamine.
Dexter didnt have a clue what L-glutamine was and he asked the host "L - Gluta WUD?"
Whats up with this? If some one told me this I wouldnt believe it to be true.
How can a Pro at that level not know what a basic supplement like L-glutamine is.
I read another report from a Pro (No name so it might be lies) who said that he never even used a vitamin.
You would expect Pro's to be clued up on all of this to a degree.
What do you guys think?
That's pretty odd, man ... do you remember Dexter's Tone when he said it ? Perhaps, he was just pulling this guy's chain ... ? If Dexter did in fact sound serious then WOW ... I am baffled, quite honestly.
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I remember when I used to think the pros took creatine and glutamine and vitamins and no2, man those were the good days...
HAHAHAHA yes I rememberthat shit too. Now I don't use anything and I grow just as fast.
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Hey guys,
Dexter Jackson was in my country a while back. He was doing an in store promo. A kid asked him how he took L-glutamine.
Dexter didnt have a clue what L-glutamine was and he asked the host "L - Gluta WUD?"
Whats up with this? If some one told me this I wouldnt believe it to be true.
How can a Pro at that level not know what a basic supplement like L-glutamine is.
I read another report from a Pro (No name so it might be lies) who said that he never even used a vitamin.
You would expect Pro's to be clued up on all of this to a degree.
What do you guys think?
i think you are a tool to think that pros actually use the shit that is sold to the public....they use stuff like slin, gh, dbol, test...ask him about these and i bet he gives you a dissertation on it...too funny..doesn't know what l-glutamine is---it's because he doesn't have to because he doesn't use it meathead...
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hahahaha, I bet this guy believes Jay & Gustavo prepare for the olympia on Gakic and animal pack
They don't? ???
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i think you are a tool to think that pros actually use the shit that is sold to the public....they use stuff like slin, gh, dbol, test...ask him about these and i bet he gives you a dissertation on it...too funny..doesn't know what l-glutamine is---it's because he doesn't have to because he doesn't use it meathead...
Why don’t you try take 10Iu slin with 100g Vitargo , 20g L-glutamine , 10g creatine mono , VS not…. You tell me which works better. It’s a synergy.
I know that they use drugs dip shit , do you think im having a revelation here?
There are commercial supplements with a lot of hype then there are basic products
Creatine
Glutamine
Vitamins
BCAA’s
Your missing my point though. Dexter stated that he has no idea what L glutamine is. He spoke with a friend of mine that evening. He asked him what was up with that? Dexter said the he took and ate what ever he was told to.
What other pro’s are this clueless with regards to nutrition and supplements?
Any one else come across something like this?
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most supplements are a waste of money, for instance let's say that you want to try a product from the ''hardcore''animal line, guess what, in our country, you can get 25 amps of test. enanthate 250 mg/ml for the same amount of money you pay for some shitty animal product................
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Why don’t you try take 10Iu slin with 100g Vitargo , 20g L-glutamine , 10g creatine mono , VS not…. You tell me which works better. It’s a synergy.
I know that they use drugs dip shit , do you think im having a revelation here?
There are commercial supplements with a lot of hype then there are basic products
Creatine
Glutamine
Vitamins
BCAA’s
Your missing my point though. Dexter stated that he has no idea what L glutamine is. He spoke with a friend of mine that evening. He asked him what was up with that? Dexter said the he took and ate what ever he was told to.
What other pro’s are this clueless with regards to nutrition and supplements?
Any one else come across something like this?
Let's stick to the topic:
I've seen several pro's be pretty clueless about both nutrition and training.
Guys who just goes in and do what their trainer/guru/sugardaddy/fill in blank tells them to do, if they're in there on their own, they don't have a clue.
Then there are others, who actually have a clue, who train with a plan. Guys like Cicherillo.
TBH, I think Cicherillo could help a lot of bodybuilders get their physiques together by explaining that they're not in the gym to try to move as much weight as possible, but to bodybuild, and his philosophies centering around that.
Classic old school Arnold stuff.
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Let's stick to the topic:
I've seen several pro's be pretty clueless about both nutrition and training.
Guys who just goes in and do what their trainer/guru/sugardaddy/fill in blank tells them to do, if they're in there on their own, they don't have a clue.
Then there are others, who actually have a clue, who train with a plan. Guys like Cicherillo.
TBH, I think Cicherillo could help a lot of bodybuilders get their physiques together by explaining that they're not in the gym to try to move as much weight as possible, but to bodybuild, and his philosophies centering around that.
Classic old school Arnold stuff.
good stuff on chick..after reading a lot of stuff he put out there about using all forms of machines and free weights and not really worrying about ''what you bench'' i changed my training drastically...i wish i had that thought process when i was in my teens--i wouldn't have been worrying about benching all the time--
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how nice it would have been if some of these Pros were "well informed, educated on their subjects". haha. :)
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Why don’t you try take 10Iu slin with 100g Vitargo , 20g L-glutamine , 10g creatine mono , VS not…. You tell me which works better. It’s a synergy.
I know that they use drugs dip shit , do you think im having a revelation here?
There are commercial supplements with a lot of hype then there are basic products
Creatine
Glutamine
Vitamins
BCAA’s
Your missing my point though. Dexter stated that he has no idea what L glutamine is. He spoke with a friend of mine that evening. He asked him what was up with that? Dexter said the he took and ate what ever he was told to.
What other pro’s are this clueless with regards to nutrition and supplements?
Any one else come across something like this?
Probably because Dexter actually works with a nutritionist somewhere who knows that l-glutamine is one of the all-hype products out there that does nothing. Same with vitamins. Probably the same w/BCAA's if you eat normally.
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I'm pretty sure he knows what it is! Hell, he is getting it for free from
Met-RX MuscleTech. He better know what it is.
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I know that they use drugs dip shit , do you think im having a revelation here?
Careful. 'Round here, this would be considered on the verge of a meltdown. :D
I get what you're saying though, brutha.
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Probably because Dexter actually works with a nutritionist somewhere who knows that l-glutamine is one of the all-hype products out there that does nothing. Same with vitamins. Probably the same w/BCAA's if you eat normally.
You're telling me, that even though he doesn't take the stuff at-at his trainers request- that it's OK to not know what a basic supplement is in his chosen field of profession?
That's like Joe Montana not knowing what the shotgun formation is, because Bill Walsh told him not to use it (ftr, Montana rarely liked using the shotgun anyway). ::)
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Hey guys,
Dexter Jackson was in my country a while back. He was doing an in store promo. A kid asked him how he took L-glutamine.
Dexter didnt have a clue what L-glutamine was and he asked the host "L - Gluta WUD?"
Whats up with this? If some one told me this I wouldnt believe it to be true.
How can a Pro at that level not know what a basic supplement like L-glutamine is.
I read another report from a Pro (No name so it might be lies) who said that he never even used a vitamin.
You would expect Pro's to be clued up on all of this to a degree.
What do you guys think?
he's just joking around with you and pulling your chain the way Nasser used to do to people.
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he's just joking around with you and pulling your chain the way Nasser used to do to people.
I love the fact that when someone 'famous' makes a silly statement...all 'normal' people look into it and disect every letter of what was said... like Jerry Lewis saying 'fag go t' ..
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I love the fact that when someone 'famous' makes a silly statement...all 'normal' people look into it and disect every letter of what was said... like Jerry Lewis saying 'fag go t' ..
hahahhaa, exactly, some of these skinny fanboys are so desperate to be like their favorite IFBB pro that they'd drink gasoline 10 times a day if they told them to.
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You're telling me, that even though he doesn't take the stuff at-at his trainers request- that it's OK to not know what a basic supplement is in his chosen field of profession?
That's like Joe Montana not knowing what the shotgun formation is, because Bill Walsh told him not to use it (ftr, Montana rarely liked using the shotgun anyway). ::)
It's just a basic supplement in the wannabe bodybuilder world. The pros don't give a damn about glutamine and niether should they; it's a complete scam.
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hahaha this guy is probably on jay cutlers "mass stack"
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It's just a basic supplement in the wannabe bodybuilder world. The pros don't give a damn about glutamine and niether should they; it's a complete scam.
Do the pros care about basics? Most likely NOT. Why? Because whatever they're on, that allows them to grow and attain their goal without basic nutrition supplements like glutamine, vitamins or creatine. If they do take any of it, it's because it's a precaution more so than because they feel they'll gain a few extra pounds of muscle by ingesting them.
However, good deflection and turn. Maybe you should go back to White Castle, or the local frozen food aisle and ask for them to restock the supply, cause you're stupid.
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Do the pros care about basics? Most likely NOT. Why? Because whatever they're on, that allows them to grow and attain their goal without basic nutrition supplements like glutamine, vitamins or creatine. If they do take any of it, it's because it's a precaution more so than because they feel they'll gain a few extra pounds of muscle by ingesting them.
However, good deflection and turn. Maybe you should go back to White Castle, or the local frozen food aisle and ask for them to restock the supply, cause you're stupid.
Do the pros care about basics? Most likely NOT. Why? Because whatever they're on, that allows them to grow and attain their goal without basic nutrition supplements like glutamine, vitamins or creatine. If they do take any of it, it's because it's a precaution more so than because they feel they'll gain a few extra pounds of muscle by ingesting them.
However, good deflection and turn. Maybe you should go back to White Castle, or the local frozen food aisle and ask for them to restock the supply, cause you're stupid.
Precaution for what? This is like saying "I take 5 grams of beet root extract as a muscle protection precaution." The truth is, you would be better off taking the beet root extract. Unlike beet root extract, studies have consistently found no effects from oral glutamine supplementation in resistance training athletes. Nobody has looked at beet root extract, but would you rather bet on a sure loser or an unknown?
Dexter could easily not know what it is because he probably consults a nutritionist for his entire diet plan or uses what has worked for him for years now. He claims to never do cardio, which is where most people use it (am fasted). You could have asked him how he takes his arginine too and he might say the same thing. Both have been around for about the same time length.
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Hahahahahaha yeah he was clueliss I lost total respect for him after meeting him.
He looks awesome but thats where it ends.
Is this a general rule though , due pro's have no idea about basic supplements or is it just Dexter?
your probably gonna wanna go ahead and stop now.....
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Glutamine drips(IV) work great for burn victims to recover faster...Everyone knows that
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You would expect Pro's to be clued up on all of this to a degree.
None of us think this.
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Hey guys,
Dexter Jackson was in my country a while back. He was doing an in store promo. A kid asked him how he took L-glutamine.
Dexter didnt have a clue what L-glutamine was and he asked the host "L - Gluta WUD?"
Whats up with this? If some one told me this I wouldnt believe it to be true.
How can a Pro at that level not know what a basic supplement like L-glutamine is.
I read another report from a Pro (No name so it might be lies) who said that he never even used a vitamin.
You would expect Pro's to be clued up on all of this to a degree.
What do you guys think?
AHAHHAAHAHAH!!! Pros don't use supplementation. Occassionally a few of em will sign a contract to promote a supplement brand to make a few grand in between cocksucking sessions with elder gentlemen. They just help peddle these placebos to the stupid masses.
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Hey guys,
Dexter Jackson was in my country a while back. He was doing an in store promo. A kid asked him how he took L-glutamine.
Dexter didnt have a clue what L-glutamine was and he asked the host "L - Gluta WUD?"
Whats up with this? If some one told me this I wouldnt believe it to be true.
How can a Pro at that level not know what a basic supplement like L-glutamine is.
I read another report from a Pro (No name so it might be lies) who said that he never even used a vitamin.
You would expect Pro's to be clued up on all of this to a degree.
What do you guys think?
NEWSFLASH: Glutamine doesn't do shiit except make supplement companies richer. See below:
Scientific American Magazine
August 02, 2007
Glutamine unlikely to boost athletic performance
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - There is little evidence that supplements containing the amino acid glutamine can enhance athletes' performance, according to a research review.
Glutamine is a non-essential amino acid, which means that the body synthesizes its own supply. However, glutamine is also found in a range of foods -- from meat and cheese to yogurt and spinach -- and in dietary supplements marketed as performance enhancers, according to Dr. George C. Phillips of the University of Iowa Children's Hospital in Iowa City.
Amino acids are the building blocks for proteins in the body, and one of the functions of glutamine is to help produce energy. Research shows that a person's blood levels of glutamine decline after exercise, but that long-term training boosts athletes' resting glutamine levels.
Glutamine aids in the synthesis of white blood cells of the immune system, which theoretically could counter the drain on the immune system that can occur with intense training.
All of this suggests that increasing glutamine levels with supplements could enhance athletic performance, Phillips notes. However, studies have not borne this out, he writes in the journal Current Sports Medicine Reports.
Phillips looked at a number of studies that tested whether glutamine supplements can increase muscle strength, speed up post-workout recovery or prevent colds by boosting immune function in hard-training athletes.
There was no consistent evidence of any of these benefits. This, coupled with the fact that glutamine supplements may raise cholesterol, "calls into serious question the appropriateness of glutamine as a dietary supplement," he writes.
"Unfortunately," Phillips concludes, "this appears to be another example of commercial marketing trumping scientific evidence that in this case demonstrates how nonessential glutamine supplementation is to athletic performance."
There was never anything to "know".
Hope this helps.
Warm regards,
N4J
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I wasted alot of money on glutamine back in the day; stuff is expensive too.
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I wasted alot of money on glutamine back in the day; stuff is expensive too.
All I ever use are multivitamin/mineral and some protein powder from Sam's for quick breakfasts.....everythin g else is a waste and I've tried a bunch of crap over the years. I've made better gains taken a fuggin Flintstone vitamin each day.
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Precaution for what? This is like saying "I take 5 grams of beet root extract as a muscle protection precaution." The truth is, you would be better off taking the beet root extract. Unlike beet root extract, studies have consistently found no effects from oral glutamine supplementation in resistance training athletes. Nobody has looked at beet root extract, but would you rather bet on a sure loser or an unknown?
Dexter could easily not know what it is because he probably consults a nutritionist for his entire diet plan or uses what has worked for him for years now. He claims to never do cardio, which is where most people use it (am fasted). You could have asked him how he takes his arginine too and he might say the same thing. Both have been around for about the same time length.
If you think Dexter does no cardio, look at these:
Before
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/data/2/medium/Dexter_Jackson_066.jpg)
After
(http://www.europasports.com/flextime/galleries/arnold-expo2k5/jackson.jpg)
A "precaution for what?" you ask? Chad Nicholls once let Tom Prince know that his wife (Kim C. former Ms. Olympia) was taking glucosamine & chondroitin. Why? She didn't have any joint problems...but Chad and Kim use it so if joint problems are to ever occur, they can possibly be minimized or at the very least held off for a longer period of time. What does that have to do with the vitamins and such? ::) Think about it, and notice I said think...
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You're telling me, that even though he doesn't take the stuff at-at his trainers request- that it's OK to not know what a basic supplement is in his chosen field of profession?
That's like Joe Montana not knowing what the shotgun formation is, because Bill Walsh told him not to use it (ftr, Montana rarely liked using the shotgun anyway). ::)
Thats really what I was getting at...
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Of course he didn't know.duhhhhhhhhh. Should have asked about test, gh, insulin, anadrol, d-bol, or any other steroid. Then you would have got an answer
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NEWSFLASH: Glutamine doesn't do shiit except make supplement companies richer. See below:
Scientific American Magazine
August 02, 2007
Glutamine unlikely to boost athletic performance
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - There is little evidence that supplements containing the amino acid glutamine can enhance athletes' performance, according to a research review.
Glutamine is a non-essential amino acid, which means that the body synthesizes its own supply. However, glutamine is also found in a range of foods -- from meat and cheese to yogurt and spinach -- and in dietary supplements marketed as performance enhancers, according to Dr. George C. Phillips of the University of Iowa Children's Hospital in Iowa City.
Amino acids are the building blocks for proteins in the body, and one of the functions of glutamine is to help produce energy. Research shows that a person's blood levels of glutamine decline after exercise, but that long-term training boosts athletes' resting glutamine levels.
Glutamine aids in the synthesis of white blood cells of the immune system, which theoretically could counter the drain on the immune system that can occur with intense training.
All of this suggests that increasing glutamine levels with supplements could enhance athletic performance, Phillips notes. However, studies have not borne this out, he writes in the journal Current Sports Medicine Reports.
Phillips looked at a number of studies that tested whether glutamine supplements can increase muscle strength, speed up post-workout recovery or prevent colds by boosting immune function in hard-training athletes.
There was no consistent evidence of any of these benefits. This, coupled with the fact that glutamine supplements may raise cholesterol, "calls into serious question the appropriateness of glutamine as a dietary supplement," he writes.
"Unfortunately," Phillips concludes, "this appears to be another example of commercial marketing trumping scientific evidence that in this case demonstrates how nonessential glutamine supplementation is to athletic performance."
There was never anything to "know".
Hope this helps.
Warm regards,
N4J
There is always two sides to every thing.
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They all support the use of L-glutamine.
Who's right?
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glutamine is one of the best suplements ever. when i used to work 12 hours a day in a store room,and also in periods of a lot of stress, i allways took glutamine and my weight was maintained and also over all these years my inmune sistem is allways great,only had a cold in 2 years or so.
and i can tell this because in those years i was off of gear.so it has to work.
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glutamine is one of the best suplements ever. when i used to work 12 hours a day in a store room,and also in periods of a lot of stress, i allways took glutamine and my weight was maintained and also over all these years my inmune sistem is allways great,only had a cold in 2 years or so.
and i can tell this because in those years i was off of gear.so it has to work.
Hey, are you the Spanish Bodybuilder Marcos Chacon? When is your next competition?
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It's just a basic supplement in the wannabe bodybuilder world. The pros don't give a damn about glutamine and niether should they; it's a complete scam.
even the wanna be dont take it because if you wanna be anything you spend your money on real food and you spend your time in the gym
best supplement in the world is dianabol and winstrol taken together in a combo,,cant beat that
so no need for l glutamine glutamine peptides glutamine acids glutamine enanthat,,this dont work and never will because your body needs it like it needs horse shit,,
what your body as a bodybuilder does need is the knowledge of how to use hormones right,,the moment you learn that dianabol by itself will make you puffy and adding winstrol to that dianabol will change the whole look and make this pufinnes into buffiness,,only then you learned something!
all those 4 weeks on 4 weeks off are also bullshit of internet wariors,,you can be on orals 3 months in a row with ZERO sides im right now on anadrol winstrol and halotestin as my main orals for coming o and checked my blood pressure last night it was 117 on 76,,,been on combo of 2-3 orals for last 2-3 months,,,most "toxic" ones...
liver enzymes didnt even move,,and heart beat is 66 at rest,,
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even the wanna be dont take it because if you wanna be anything you spend your money on real food and you spend your time in the gym
best supplement in the world is dianabol and winstrol taken together in a combo,,cant beat that
so no need for l glutamine glutamine peptides glutamine acids glutamine enanthat,,this dont work and never will because your body needs it like it needs horse shit,,
what your body as a bodybuilder does need is the knowledge of how to use hormones right,,the moment you learn that dianabol by itself will make you puffy and adding winstrol to that dianabol will change the whole look and make this pufinnes into buffiness,,only then you learned something!
all those 4 weeks on 4 weeks off are also bullshit of internet wariors,,you can be on orals 3 months in a row with ZERO sides im right now on anadrol winstrol and halotestin as my main orals for coming o and checked my blood pressure last night it was 117 on 76,,,been on combo of 2-3 orals for last 2-3 months,,,most "toxic" ones...
liver enzymes didnt even move,,and heart beat is 66 at rest,,
U said before to do dianabol 4 weeks straight and then lay off for 4 weeks....does it mean it's better to be on it 3 months straight ?...or u CAN be on it 3 months straight...and you won't get sides...?
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The same thing happened years ago at the Arnold when my friend asked Ronnie Coleman what he thought about Andro/baseball PH scandel and Ronnie had no fucking clue what Andro was. You could tell by the look on Ronnie's face that he really had no clue what my friend was talking about. I wanted to give him my free sample of Pinnacle Andro Poppers but I figured he wouldn't take it.
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dianabol 4-5 weeks then change to something else then something else.,,
i find for myself that combo of orals work a lot better,,since when you want to grow lean you got to add the winstrol to the dianabol in a oral combo otherwize you will get puffed,,its very individual but i recomend a mix of orals as in 2 orals same time in addition to any ae/ai taken if taken
ofcourse low bodyfat is very important when you start this because only when bodyfat is low enough you will be able to notice changes on a daily basis,,moment physiqe is covered with fat changes will be minimal and wont be noticable to the eye
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dianabol 4-5 weeks then change to something else then something else.,,
i find for myself that combo of orals work a lot better,,since when you want to grow lean you got to add the winstrol to the dianabol in a oral combo otherwize you will get puffed,,its very individual but i recomend a mix of orals as in 2 orals same time in addition to any ae/ai taken if taken
ofcourse low bodyfat is very important when you start this because only when bodyfat is low enough you will be able to notice changes on a daily basis,,moment physiqe is covered with fat changes will be minimal and wont be noticable to the eye
gotcha
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with all my respects gh15,remenber that not everyone in this boards is juiced,so i think that the people that have good expirience with natural suplements should explain them here.
pro bodybuilding is another world,but there is more bodybuildings besides pro levels.
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for example,rigth now im out of the game due to surgery in my shoulder and in my abs(hernia) since febreruary i havent used anything and the only suplement i take is glutamine,my weight barely has gone down,of course i lost the roundes ,but muscle is still there.maybe glutamine works.
www.marcoschacon.com
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for example,rigth now im out of the game due to surgery in my shoulder and in my abs(hernia) since febreruary i havent used anything and the only suplement i take is glutamine,my weight barely has gone down,of course i lost the roundes ,but muscle is still there.maybe glutamine works.
www.marcoschacon.com
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for example,rigth now im out of the game due to surgery in my shoulder and in my abs(hernia) since febreruary i havent used anything and the only suplement i take is glutamine,my weight barely has gone down,of course i lost the roundes ,but muscle is still there.maybe glutamine works.
www.marcoschacon.com
Probably has more to do with your diet than the glutascheme.
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my diet? is a complete shit right now i can tllu that.i eat anything and not to much.wanna rest my body from all stress ,so when i start again,i can 100% with everything.
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Hey guys,
Dexter Jackson was in my country a while back. He was doing an in store promo. A kid asked him how he took L-glutamine.
Dexter didnt have a clue what L-glutamine was and he asked the host "L - Gluta WUD?"
Whats up with this? If some one told me this I wouldnt believe it to be true.
How can a Pro at that level not know what a basic supplement like L-glutamine is.
I read another report from a Pro (No name so it might be lies) who said that he never even used a vitamin.
You would expect Pro's to be clued up on all of this to a degree.
What do you guys think?
first of all i dont believe this...as i think dexter certainly knows what glutamine is...
secondly, glutamine doesnt do jack shit for a bodybuilder. specially not when taken as a powder (orally).
thirdly, most pros dont know that much about training theory or nutritition.....but they know what works:
lots of drugs and obsessive training for years while stuffing their piehole (often eating to often when they could eat fewer and bigger meals...thus enabling them to have more free time..which scares em as they dont have a life outside bodybuilding...aka jay cutler).
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glutamine is one of the best suplements ever. when i used to work 12 hours a day in a store room,and also in periods of a lot of stress, i allways took glutamine and my weight was maintained and also over all these years my inmune sistem is allways great,only had a cold in 2 years or so.
and i can tell this because in those years i was off of gear.so it has to work.
::).....why are always bodybuilders stressed when they have to work like normal people? and thats not a very good argument for glutamine ( "so it has to work")...the fact you didnt loose any weight sure as hell doesnt have to do with you taking glutamine....
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hi slave boy,i worked all my life and still do, not every can live from bb, why stress? well try working 12 hours a day monday to saturday,in a place that your dad builded up from nothing,and that when he passed away ,u try to do the job that he did and a bit more,train,diet,and have a life besides bb.
well any way i think that glutamine works and there are loads of people that back that.
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Hey guys,
Dexter Jackson was in my country a while back. He was doing an in store promo. A kid asked him how he took L-glutamine.
Dexter didnt have a clue what L-glutamine was and he asked the host "L - Gluta WUD?"
Whats up with this? If some one told me this I wouldnt believe it to be true.
How can a Pro at that level not know what a basic supplement like L-glutamine is.
I read another report from a Pro (No name so it might be lies) who said that he never even used a vitamin.
You would expect Pro's to be clued up on all of this to a degree.
What do you guys think?
Not too unbelievable. I went to lunch with an IFBB Pro who we all know. 1st tier pro. As big as a house. Used to be from WI but is now in TX.
At lunch we were talking about the industry, supplements, gear etc... As I suspected he told me th emost he uses is whey protein post workout. The very most. Never used creatine or anything he used to sell. Ever. Nothing his 'sponsor' made either. Just came down to food. Lots of food at the right times of the day.
Special 'Secret AGENT Man' Ed who represented Kevin Levrone for a spell confirmed to me the same was true with Kevin. He never onced used any supplement. Not even protein powder. Nothing. Ever.
Very very few pro's do. Not a PRO, yet but Getbig's very own Justin 'Trop' Harris is one of the few top level BB's that do and believe in them.
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I use 20g Glutamine post work out. Ive just stopped because I ran out. Im broken and taking much longer to recover. thats enough proof for me that it works.
I think the application of basic supplements is a must for natural bodybuilders as well as guys that aren’t geared to the gills.
Dexter Jackson really didn’t know what L-glutamine was because he said so afterwards in confidence , saying that he only used what he was told to.
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I use 20g Glutamine post work out. Ive just stopped because I ran out. Im broken and taking much longer to recover. thats enough proof for me that it works.
I think the application of basic supplements is a must for natural bodybuilders as well as guys that aren’t geared to the gills.
Dexter Jackson really didn’t know what L-glutamine was because he said so afterwards in confidence , saying that he only used what he was told to.
sorry man i'm sure you're a nice guy but i'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit.
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Hey guys,
Dexter Jackson was in my country a while back. He was doing an in store promo. A kid asked him how he took L-glutamine.
Dexter didnt have a clue what L-glutamine was and he asked the host "L - Gluta WUD?"
Whats up with this? If some one told me this I wouldnt believe it to be true.
How can a Pro at that level not know what a basic supplement like L-glutamine is.
I read another report from a Pro (No name so it might be lies) who said that he never even used a vitamin.
You would expect Pro's to be clued up on all of this to a degree.
What do you guys think?
I'll take it that you are young and not attuned to reality...Because some one is a bodybuilder does NOT mean that they are an EXPERT in supplements. The supplement industry has been around for ages and so has bodybuilding. Glutamine is a relatively NEW product that people have come to know. Go back to the days of Lee Haney, Gaspari, Ferrigno etc etc and Glutamine was an unknown product yet BBs had awesome bodies which should tell you something about these supplements...(money makers for the companies that make them and the suckers that buy them). If Dexter eats steak or beef in general he will be getting more than enough Glutamine so he won't need supplementation. If the BB that said he needs no vitamins eats enough raw foods: vegetables and fruits, then he too will not need vitamins. As a matter of fact the natural sources of vitamins, minerals, enzymes etc are more bioavailable than vitamins/supplements....
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so no need for l glutamine glutamine peptides glutamine acids glutamine enanthat,,this dont work and never will because your body needs it like it needs horse shit,,
LMAO ;D
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hi slave boy,i worked all my life and still do, not every can live from bb, why stress? well try working 12 hours a day monday to saturday,in a place that your dad builded up from nothing,and that when he passed away ,u try to do the job that he did and a bit more,train,diet,and have a life besides bb.
well any way i think that glutamine works and there are loads of people that back that.
Tell Ron to give you your damn stars so everyone knows right away your are an IFBB Pro.
p.s. Paco Bautista owns you!
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yeah paco owns every one in spain hahahah! and a few in the world but judges dont think the same.
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Yeah, I think he should have placed much higher at the last show (Europa). He was ripped and huge. When are you going to compete in U.S. events? You are injured right now I know but it would be cool to have another Spanish competitor along with Paco. I was just messing with you by the way since you are injured. It's hard to beat that monster though, have beaten Paco before?
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sorry man i'm sure you're a nice guy but i'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit.
Yeah im just going to drop it , Dexter either lied to a bunch of guys over dinner and was trying to make us all look stupid. He also said the Africans have shit genetics compared to Americans. His reason was that slave traders took only the strongest from Africa ::)
Anyways myself and marcos must be the only guys on here who us glutamine. :-\
And Squad what's up? I was expecting an onslaught of criticism from you , are you getting soft on us?
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Yeah, I think he should have placed much higher at the last show (Europa). He was ripped and huge. When are you going to compete in U.S. events? You are injured right now I know but it would be cool to have another Spanish competitor along with Paco. I was just messing with you by the way since you are injured. It's hard to beat that monster though, have beaten Paco before?
he also has the aesthetics of an ox
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hi slave boy,i worked all my life and still do, not every can live from bb, why stress? well try working 12 hours a day monday to saturday,in a place that your dad builded up from nothing,and that when he passed away ,u try to do the job that he did and a bit more,train,diet,and have a life besides bb.
well any way i think that glutamine works and there are loads of people that back that.
all respect to you for working, and taking over your late fathers family business.
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we competed together in santa susana last year,but i wasbt in top shape and paco was his all time best.he also is a great friend of mine and we have done a few seminars together,maybe he is not the most aesthetic but ,he is the bigest guy on stage,ripped,lean,sharp and whatever word u use for shreded,also he is a very hard working guy,never see nobody train like he does,with the weigths he does and for 3 or 4 hours like he trains.