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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: TooPowerful4u on September 15, 2007, 02:03:56 PM
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I NEVER post on here... but figured eh what the heck... few nice lifts caught on tape warrant it....
Not too bad for 5.4% bodyfat (measured this morning 39mm clipped 9 point) low carbs and 6 weeks out eh? Weighing in at 209lbs this AM. 24yrs old. Video cuts off early in both since my cell only takes 15second clips, but the first one is 7 reps, second is 5 (ok 4 with a half rep on 5 plus static hold). Probably could have gotten more, but i NEVER let anyone give me a liftoff on BB or a lift out the bottom on DB's. It fucks with my head, set HAS to be on my own.
150s x 7
160s x 4.5
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pretty strong. however, why don't you use full ROM at the bottom of the exercise?
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I NEVER post on here... but figured eh what the heck... few nice lifts caught on tape warrant it....
Not too bad for 5.4% bodyfat (measured this morning 39mm clipped 9 point) low carbs and 6 weeks out eh? Weighing in at 209lbs this AM. 24yrs old. Video cuts off early in both since my cell only takes 15second clips, but the first one is 7 reps, second is 5 (ok 4 with a half rep on 5 plus static hold). Probably could have gotten more, but i NEVER let anyone give me a liftoff on BB or a lift out the bottom on DB's. It fucks with my head, set HAS to be on my own.
150s x 7
160s x 4.5
Out of curiosity, how long you been on roids and what's your stack look like?
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pretty strong. however, why don't you use full ROM at the bottom of the exercise?
Elbows slightly below parallel is enough... gotta criticize eh lol, saw that coming.... any lower is front delts and rotators... whats the point if im hitting chest?
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Out of curiosity, how long you been on roids and what's your stack look like?
im clean... didnt you know that? im the only guy on getbig who isnt 300lbs with 2% bodyfat and benching 405x reps.... guess i suck and better get my head on straight and stop lifting like a pussy ;D
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Most experts will disagree with you. Locking out is not necessary, going down all the way is. Try it and see how your pecs change.
Time for the squadfather to verify these lifts.
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im clean... didnt you know that? im the only guy on getbig who isnt 300lbs with 2% bodyfat and benching 405x reps.... guess i suck and better get my head on straight and stop lifting like a pussy ;D
FWIW I think you're lying about being clean. But if you're not, then you've got some pretty awesome strength for a 24 year old to be handling weights like that for multiple reps (granted your form isn't the best but who the fucck cares?)
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FWIW I think you're lying about being clean. But if you're not, then you've got some pretty awesome strength for a 24 year old to be handling weights like that for multiple reps (granted your form isn't the best but who the fucck cares?)
lol i was joking....i am stronger than ever in my life because iv never been that strong except in the hips.... valuable lesson learned this year... HEALTHY FATS!
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pretty strong. however, why don't you use full ROM at the bottom of the exercise?
Ok willie, why don't you grab a monstrous pair of 70lb dbs and show em how it's done.
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I NEVER post on here... but figured eh what the heck... few nice lifts caught on tape warrant it....
Not too bad for 5.4% bodyfat (measured this morning 39mm clipped 9 point) low carbs and 6 weeks out eh? Weighing in at 209lbs this AM. 24yrs old. Video cuts off early in both since my cell only takes 15second clips, but the first one is 7 reps, second is 5 (ok 4 with a half rep on 5 plus static hold). Probably could have gotten more, but i NEVER let anyone give me a liftoff on BB or a lift out the bottom on DB's. It fucks with my head, set HAS to be on my own.
150s x 7
160s x 4.5
Awesome lifts @209 lbs.
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half reps.
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Elbows slightly below parallel is enough... gotta criticize eh lol, saw that coming.... any lower is front delts and rotators... whats the point if im hitting chest?
wasn't critcising exactly, just commenting and curious. thought there might be a reason
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Ok willie, why don't you grab a monstrous pair of 70lb dbs and show em how it's done.
whatever. he's stronger than me, I suppose, but was just pointing out that his form isn't right. All I can use at my strongest is 110 for 6 reps with good form. He's stronger than me, more power to him I suppose, but I always wonder why people use certain form on some exercises
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If the dumbbells are real that is a heck of a lift!
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Strong dude any way you look at it.
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Elbows slightly below parallel is enough... gotta criticize eh lol, saw that coming.... any lower is front delts and rotators... whats the point if im hitting chest?
you are completely right there. full range of motion...it depends on what your goals are. you were working only chest there, very nice.
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Strong dude any way you look at it.
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I agree
wasn't trying to dis him
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Strong guy for sure and a great physique.
But I bet you'd get better results with a full ROM.
Do you do 1/2 squats for quads? 1/2 curls for biceps? If you were to do a barbell bench press you would be stopping 10-12 inches above your chest...
My point is you are not getting the full stretch, and therefore not optimizing training your pectorals.
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Strong guy for sure and a great physique.
But I bet you'd get better results with a full ROM.
Do you do 1/2 squats for quads? 1/2 curls for biceps? If you were to do a barbell bench press you would be stopping 10-12 inches above your chest...
My point is you are not getting the full stretch, and therefore not optimizing training your pectorals.
optimizing the ego is more important for this kind of dudes.
listen to gh15, leave the ego out of the gym for one hour and you will see great results.
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those were more than half reps let's be honest, they were about 80 percent of full ROM which is still pretty good, give credit where it's due this is a strong guy for sure.
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Strong guy for sure and a great physique.
But I bet you'd get better results with a full ROM.
Do you do 1/2 squats for quads? 1/2 curls for biceps? If you were to do a barbell bench press you would be stopping 10-12 inches above your chest...
My point is you are not getting the full stretch, and therefore not optimizing training your pectorals.
And il say to you.... MAXAMIZE every lift safely. If i go all the way down for the stretch, i still transfer stress to my delts and rotator (dangerous) and put my pecs in a compromised position waiting for injury. I get my stretch on my fly movements or my lighter pressing movements (2nd exercise and on). This was a mass builder, plain and simple....
And ya.. chest sux...
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I think you are lying about being clean.........good lifts none the less
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And il say to you.... MAXAMIZE every lift safely. If i go all the way down for the stretch, i still transfer stress to my delts and rotator (dangerous) and put my pecs in a compromised position waiting for injury. I get my stretch on my fly movements or my lighter pressing movements (2nd exercise and on). This was a mass builder, plain and simple....
And ya.. chest sux...
Oh yeah, your "chest sux" ::) I asked you before: what roid cycle are you currently on? Or are you PCT?
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I think you are lying about being clean.........good lifts none the less
When has he said he is clean?
If he is, great. If not, it's his body. He can do what he wants with it
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Oh yeah, your "chest sux" ::) I asked you before: what roid cycle are you currently on? Or are you PCT?
I was JOKING about being clean sheesh. Show me a clean 24yr old hitting anything close to that at 200lbs and 5%ish bodyfat. Use your heads, its obvious. And panda... its none of your business what i use... and it wouldnt do you any good to copy it since 1. i dont use much 2. my diet is perfect with a balance of high protein moderate healthy fats (but enough to sustain strength, this is very important..and the right sources) and 3. you are not me and i am not you so we will respond differently to different stuff... if iv learned anything in the past 5yrs is that DIET is probably 70% while roids are more like 10-15%. The rest is training and rest. Those who are lazy tend to hold roids in THEIR OWN 50% regards when trying to build a good physique... and its because they never experienced what a long term perfect diet could do for them....
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And il say to you.... MAXAMIZE every lift safely. If i go all the way down for the stretch, i still transfer stress to my delts and rotator (dangerous) and put my pecs in a compromised position waiting for injury. I get my stretch on my fly movements or my lighter pressing movements (2nd exercise and on). This was a mass builder, plain and simple....
And ya.. chest sux...
I agree with this......all the talk about full ROM is completely relative. If you take that heavy rep and stretch way down at the bottom you've transferred stress to the shoulder joints and greatly increase the risk of blowin it out. Better to shorten the ROM slightly.
And I have dislocated my shoulder doing incline presses with a 90lb db stretching deep at the bottom part of the rep.
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Elbows slightly below parallel is enough... gotta criticize eh lol, saw that coming.... any lower is front delts and rotators... whats the point if im hitting chest?
ya for a half developed chest, watch arnie train not the current idiots like cutler and coleman!
full reps you would get no more then 5 reps at 100 lbs
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;D
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Thats not too impressive, I do 6 sets (4 @ 45 degree angle, and 2 at 30 degree angle) with the 110s at 10 reps a set, and I do not use roids.
so 160s in a juicer is not really impressive...to me at least. if you were natural, sure, great lifts.
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Thats not too impressive, I do 6 sets (4 @ 45 degree angle, and 2 at 30 degree angle) with the 110s at 10 reps a set, and I do not use roids.
so 160s in a juicer is not really impressive...to me at least. if you were natural, sure, great lifts.
One of my training partners(when we train, i usually train alone)is natural and does this..... at 160lbs... so ya your not so great for a natural either bud...sorry to break it to ya haha its all good tho, keep tryin maybe one day youl be... ok... hows your physique? my training partner is also sub 10% bodyfat
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ya for a half developed chest, watch arnie train not the current idiots like cutler and coleman!
full reps you would get no more then 5 reps at 100 lbs
yes half developed chest, just like Johnny O and his half developed chest, Branch Warren and his, yea Ronnie Coleman has NO chest ::) ..... oh and Arnie's chest stood out so much because it was a genetically gifted bodypart and all the others were weak IN COMPARISON to it... nowadays bodybuilders hold more balance so you dont notice shit like that much..
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Thats not too impressive, I do 6 sets (4 @ 45 degree angle, and 2 at 30 degree angle) with the 110s at 10 reps a set, and I do not use roids.
so 160s in a juicer is not really impressive...to me at least. if you were natural, sure, great lifts.
fyi,
110's and 160's are worlds apart...if you think you can naturally smell a 160 db incline press at that weight you are insane
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Those are good lifts with good ROM...you guys are fucking ridiculous
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Thats not too impressive, I do 6 sets (4 @ 45 degree angle, and 2 at 30 degree angle) with the 110s at 10 reps a set, and I do not use roids.
so 160s in a juicer is not really impressive...to me at least. if you were natural, sure, great lifts.
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fyi,
110's and 160's are worlds apart...if you think you can naturally smell a 160 db incline press at that weight you are insane
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Those are good lifts with good ROM...you guys are fucking ridiculous
"Yes, it's heavy weight, but your ROM is incomplete. If you lightened the weight and got a full stretch you'd better develop your chest." This always coming from some 175lb guy with a 35" chest that can barely press a watermelon talking to the 240lb guy with the 50" chest who lifts twice as heavy and is twice the size.
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the dude is pretty strong... nothing more... looks like a decent wrestler too if you watch his other vids
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"Yes, it's heavy weight, but your ROM is incomplete. If you lightened the weight and got a full stretch you'd better develop your chest." This always coming from some 175lb guy with a 35" chest that can barely press a watermelon talking to the 240lb guy with the 50" chest who lifts twice as heavy and is twice the size.
Ahh cmon, youv never visited a health club where a 140lb soaking wet trainer has come up to you in front of a client trying to impress them and tries to critique your form and what you are doing wrong and SHOULD be doing for a better physique? I cant lie... half the time i take the SquadFather technique... but i ALWAYS use the same line...."so if i do it like that, i will look like you?" (then look at his client and smile big and sarcastically) haha... boy do they get mad
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Ahh cmon, youv never visited a health club where a 140lb soaking wet trainer has come up to you in front of a client trying to impress them and tries to critique your form and what you are doing wrong and SHOULD be doing for a better physique? I cant lie... half the time i take the SquadFather technique... but i ALWAYS use the same line...."so if i do it like that, i will look like you?" (then look at his client and smile big and sarcastically) haha... boy do they get mad
don't listen to these clowns man, that was very impressive no doubt about it, i've given you shit about your attitude before but you're a strong guy for sure, what is the Squadfather technique BTW?
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One of my training partners(when we train, i usually train alone)is natural and does this..... at 160lbs... so ya your not so great for a natural either bud...sorry to break it to ya haha its all good tho, keep tryin maybe one day youl be... ok... hows your physique? my training partner is also sub 10% bodyfat
well, thats not saying much if you need to juice to do the 160s and your "partner' can do them naturally.
6 sets doing 10 reps of 110s (thats all my gym has), i am sure i can do the 120s, maybe 130s for no issue (at least for "4.5 reps").
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the dude is pretty strong... nothing more... looks like a decent wrestler too if you watch his other vids
lol i didnt realize you guys could see my other videos posted from my links. Check out my lil bro, hes 15, not too bad haha lifting 2 months... and he broke all my HS wrestling records as a freshman that lil bastad
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Ahh cmon, youv never visited a health club where a 140lb soaking wet trainer has come up to you in front of a client trying to impress them and tries to critique your form and what you are doing wrong and SHOULD be doing for a better physique? I cant lie... half the time i take the SquadFather technique... but i ALWAYS use the same line...."so if i do it like that, i will look like you?" (then look at his client and smile big and sarcastically) haha... boy do they get mad
As a matter of fact, yes I have been in that situation. A trainer was walking a man and woman around showing them machines and movements and I was incline pressing and I heard him say, "and see him, those are incline presses for upper chest development; although, he should probably bring that bar down to his clavicles for a better stretch." I stood up and said, "sure, but then I'd look like you and I'd rather not take a step backwards." Now, I knew the trainer so it was all in fun, but I know what you mean.
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don't listen to these clowns man, that was very impressive no doubt about it, i've given you shit about your attitude before but you're a strong guy for sure, what is the Squadfather technique BTW?
That would be putting a jackass in his place instead of taking the high road and letting him feel high and mighty haha. Sometimes i guess.... they deserve it and should just keep their mouths shut
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That would be putting a jackass in his place instead of taking the high road and letting him feel high and mighty haha. Sometimes i guess.... they deserve it and should just keep their mouths shut
honestly the way i look at it is if you're minding your own business and someone says something to you it's open season to criticize them.
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well, thats not saying much if you need to juice to do the 160s and your "partner' can do them naturally.
6 sets doing 10 reps of 110s (thats all my gym has), i am sure i can do the 120s, maybe 130s for no issue (at least for "4.5 reps").
No im saying he does the 110s for 10-12 (like you) but probably weighs much less and is lower bodyfat with a better physique. Just telling you that you are not special for a natural. BTW... i was pressing 90s for shoulder press (before i hurt my shoulder) at 20yrs old naturally for 8 reps.... thats with 1yr of lifting. Bite me ;) :-* oh and i took off 6 months 2yrs ago when i was 22 after a show i was burnt out... came back in to the gym and my 2nd week back hit 110s on incline for an easy 8. Sorry to burst your bubble... i can do those 6 months clean with no training.... ever have a hurtz doughnut? say it slowly.... ;)
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My dad could beat up your dad!!
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well, thats not saying much if you need to juice to do the 160s and your "partner' can do them naturally.
6 sets doing 10 reps of 110s (thats all my gym has), i am sure i can do the 120s, maybe 130s for no issue (at least for "4.5 reps").
Im not claiming to be GREAT... just sayin i had a nice lift at a low bodyweight close to a show on low carbs (alot harder than offseason). There are some naturals who can hang with me or better...but it sure as hell aint you! Heres one.....
In order to be natural and move this kind of weight, you need to be doing it a long time and pay close attention to EVERY aspect of bodybuilding, from the smallest macronutrient per meal to that extra hour of sleep per night... but if you are dedicated and driven enough (like Layne) it CAN be done
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No im saying he does the 110s for 10-12 (like you) but probably weighs much less and is lower bodyfat with a better physique. Just telling you that you are not special for a natural. BTW... i was pressing 90s for shoulder press (before i hurt my shoulder) at 20yrs old naturally for 8 reps.... thats with 1yr of lifting. Bite me ;) :-* oh and i took off 6 months 2yrs ago when i was 22 after a show i was burnt out... came back in to the gym and my 2nd week back hit 110s on incline for an easy 8. Sorry to burst your bubble... i can do those 6 months clean with no training.... ever have a hurtz doughnut? say it slowly.... ;)
well, shit anyone can do 110s with half reps.
anyway, that does not mean shit, you do 160s and look like you never lifted, and someone like Vince Taylor uses 80 pounds and LOOKS huge. go figure.
my point: 160s in a juicer is not impressive at all.
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well, shit anyone can do 110s with half reps.
anyway, that does not mean shit, you do 160s and look like you never lifted, and someone like Vince Taylor uses 80 pounds and LOOKS huge. go figure.
my point: 160s in a juicer is not impressive at all.
if this guy looks like he never lifted you must look like the next coming of Cutler. ::)
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with a shirt on, he looks like he never lifted. come on squad, this was the point of your other thread about sami lookin small in a shirt.
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with a shirt on, he looks like he never lifted. come on squad, this was the point of your other thread about sami lookin small in a shirt.
you can't even really tell his size from that grainy rough cell phone footage.
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if this guy looks like he never lifted you must look like the next coming of Cutler. ::)
bahahahaha
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bahhahaha bah
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if this guy looks like he never lifted you must look like the next coming of Cutler. ::)
appreciate it, but dont pay worm much mind. I hurt his feelings by pressing something hed never touch even if he did juice, hit the same weight as him when i DONT train or juice, and my training partner owns him at a much lower bodyweight and bodyfat with a better physique..... sometimes reality hurts ;D
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oh yeah, you got me. hhahahaha. ok "tough guy"
shit, i can do 130s no issue, natural. if i were to juice and do half presses, 160s would be a joke. you are a douche who has to use drugs to feel better about himself... whats wrong? insecure? need to be liked? need attention from pathetic getbig members?
hahaha. loser, "too powerful"
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oh yeah, you got me. hhahahaha. ok "tough guy"
shit, i can do 130s no issue, natural. if i were to juice and do half presses, 160s would be a joke. you are a douche who has to use drugs to feel better about himself... whats wrong? insecure? need to be liked? need attention from pathetic getbig members?
hahaha. loser, "too powerful"
such a neucence... please leave my thread you are bothersome ;D haterade can really quench your thirst.. you are probably drinking a gallon right now eh
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all these damn people who juice for nothing are fukin losers. whats wrong? no work ethic.
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please leave my thread you are bothersome ;D
i am sorry if I hurt your feelings. maybe u need more steroids to make you feel stronger (mentally and physically).
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all these damn people who juice for nothing are fukin losers. whats wrong? no work ethic.
id bury you in the gym, il bet you 1000 you dont survive a leg workout... when you wanna go?
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lol. you win, i guess you are "too powerfull 4 me"
hahaha.
too easy. ok, i am done with you kids, i got shit to do today.
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i can do 130s no issue, natural.
I don't believe you...........and you have no proof. When you provide the proof, then I start believing. No, I believe the guy that provides proof.
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lol. you win, i guess you are "too powerfull 4 me"
hahaha.
too easy. ok, i am done with you kids, i got shit to do today.
Settle down troll, btw....The worm, is that what your boyfriend calls you dick? ;D
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i love how these clowns say, "i'm a natural, 155 pounds and i press the 65's, if i was a heavy juicer like you and dedicated myself to bodybuilding i would be pressing the 300's and would be 420 pounds totally ripped".
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2p4u, did you get a shoulder problem/pain when bringing the elbows below parallel?
did doing them like you do now stop the pain or mearly ease it slightly?
i'm having some real shoulder pain all the time when db pressing, decline seems to be the most painful.
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TP thats a hell of a lift...Im 205 right now and I aint comin close to that...You should be dense as hell in 6 weeks....
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Panda, you Hi-Jacked HurricaneBeef's avatar. Try google images and get one of your own. ;)
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2p4u, did you get a shoulder problem/pain when bringing the elbows below parallel?
did doing them like you do now stop the pain or mearly ease it slightly?
i'm having some real shoulder pain all the time when db pressing, decline seems to be the most painful.
Incident changed my lifting for the better. Last year gettin ready for a show i was doin dips with a 125 DB around my waist x 3 sets 12... problem was i was going chest to the handles (WAY too deep and STUPID). So anyway, had no idea what it was doing to me, grabbed the 125s first set incline DB figuring it wasnt a problem, lowered them and BAM whole shitload of snapping and crackling sounds. Dropped them and jumped up FAST. My shoulder joint and chest swelled up and hurt like HELL and tight for 3 full weeks. I slowly worked back into chest using machines doing half reps. Then 3/4 reps. Never could bring the bar or DBs ALL the way down mentally, but low and behold.... got stronger, and for the first time my chest didnt seem so weak looking. It got thicker and thicker. Lesson learned by mistake.... but it worked, its been working, and i expect it to continue to work. I still go deep on some presses' but its always 2nd or 3rd exercise and lighter and higher reps 12+. Gota stay safe, doesnt do you no good to get hurt.
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TP thats a hell of a lift...Im 205 right now and I aint comin close to that...You should be dense as hell in 6 weeks....
Dont compare yourself to me... when i win an overall at my state show and place in a national show... then maybe il warrant it... right now.... you hold much higher status than i do... that lift dont win me a show or up my placings....and your conditioning was sick... you need to jump in on my new thread on promuscle and help a brotha out!
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Dont compare yourself to me... when i win an overall at my state show and place in a national show... then maybe il warrant it... right now.... you hold much higher status than i do... that lift dont win me a show or up my placings....and your conditioning was sick... you need to jump in on my new thread on promuscle and help a brotha out!
is it a new LBA thread...LOL...that shyt had me rolling...Phil exposed AGAIN!!!...Ill check it out...
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is it a new LBA thread...LOL...that shyt had me rolling...Phil exposed AGAIN!!!...Ill check it out...
no the ham glute tiein thread haha
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TPFU
very strong and good control of the bells and, yes, i agree with the poster who said there's a world of difference between 110s and 160s.
i do wonder about the dbs though? i totally agree with your reasoning on the rom and i have mentioned this in other threads. my question is, why dbs? obviously it's not a rom issue (as already pointed out) and if you used that rom with bench press you would be doing the equivalent rom of board presses (granted, much more difficult way you're doing it).
do you use the dbs so the muscles get more work from balancing the weights or is there some other reason?
no diss. as i said, very strong. curious is all. :-\
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Panda, you Hi-Jacked HurricaneBeef's avatar. Try google images and get one of your own. ;)
i prefer to think of it as he was mearly keeping it warm for the true hulk to step forward and claim it for his own ;)Incident changed my lifting for the better. Last year gettin ready for a show i was doin dips with a 125 DB around my waist x 3 sets 12... problem was i was going chest to the handles (WAY too deep and STUPID). So anyway, had no idea what it was doing to me, grabbed the 125s first set incline DB figuring it wasnt a problem, lowered them and BAM whole shitload of snapping and crackling sounds. Dropped them and jumped up FAST. My shoulder joint and chest swelled up and hurt like HELL and tight for 3 full weeks. I slowly worked back into chest using machines doing half reps. Then 3/4 reps. Never could bring the bar or DBs ALL the way down mentally, but low and behold.... got stronger, and for the first time my chest didnt seem so weak looking. It got thicker and thicker. Lesson learned by mistake.... but it worked, its been working, and i expect it to continue to work. I still go deep on some presses' but its always 2nd or 3rd exercise and lighter and higher reps 12+. Gota stay safe, doesnt do you no good to get hurt.
thanks, it certainly hasn't done you any harm, in size or strength, i will give it a go. your right about it not hurting when its lighter/warmups, just the main sets.
cheers. 8)
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i do wonder about the dbs though? i totally agree with your reasoning on the rom and i have mentioned this in other threads. my question is, why dbs? obviously it's not a rom issue (as already pointed out) and if you used that rom with bench press you would be doing the equivalent rom of board presses (granted, much more difficult way you're doing it).
do you use the dbs so the muscles get more work from balancing the weights or is there some other reason?
I use a LOT of variety, which i learned makes a world of difference, keep the muscle guessing. I NEVER do the same exercises 2 workouts in a row. And i wont start a workout with an exercise for maybe 3 workouts.
With the DB's, i still focus on feeling it where it needs to be, on my chest. As you can see, my reps are WIDER than a lot of DB press' you will see. That is how i best feel it in my chest. The harder a muscle has to work on balance, the more fibers are contracted to complete the movement. Plain and simple. DBs are best, but again.... use sparingly. I will be back to DBs in 3 workouts 1.5wks, so if i hit the 160s x 8-10, il give the 180s a shot hehe
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I use a LOT of variety, which i learned makes a world of difference, keep the muscle guessing. I NEVER do the same exercises 2 workouts in a row. And i wont start a workout with an exercise for maybe 3 workouts.
With the DB's, i still focus on feeling it where it needs to be, on my chest. As you can see, my reps are WIDER than a lot of DB press' you will see. That is how i best feel it in my chest. The harder a muscle has to work on balance, the more fibers are contracted to complete the movement. Plain and simple. DBs are best, but again.... use sparingly. I will be back to DBs in 3 workouts 1.5wks, so if i hit the 160s x 8-10, il give the 180s a shot hehe
cheers :)
i thought it might be the balance thing. makes sense.
what you're doing is obviously working.
good luck with the pre-contest.
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I was JOKING about being clean sheesh. Show me a clean 24yr old hitting anything close to that at 200lbs and 5%ish bodyfat. Use your heads, its obvious. And panda... its none of your business what i use... and it wouldnt do you any good to copy it since 1. i dont use much 2. my diet is perfect with a balance of high protein moderate healthy fats (but enough to sustain strength, this is very important..and the right sources) and 3. you are not me and i am not you so we will respond differently to different stuff... if iv learned anything in the past 5yrs is that DIET is probably 70% while roids are more like 10-15%. The rest is training and rest. Those who are lazy tend to hold roids in THEIR OWN 50% regards when trying to build a good physique... and its because they never experienced what a long term perfect diet could do for them....
Hey Slim, I wasn't asking you what your cycle was because I wanted to be on it. ::) This was my backhanded way of ridiculing you for turning to roids when you're not even 25 years old yet. It's posers like you, who are impatient to put years of "natural" hard work in, that give steroid users a bad name.
Moron.
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Hey Slim, I wasn't asking you what your cycle was because I wanted to be on it. ::) This was my backhanded way of ridiculing you for turning to roids when you're not even 25 years old yet. It's posers like you, who are impatient to put years of "natural" hard work in, that give steroid users a bad name.
Moron.
please teach me how i can be as marvelous as you. im sure your physique and lifts are light years ahead of mine.... please preach oh yoda of the iron game ::)
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please teach me how i can be as marvelous as you. im sure your physique and lifts are light years ahead of mine.... please preach oh yoda of the iron game ::)
First of all, MELTDOWN. Second of all, why are you fucking up your body's hormone levels when you're in your early 20s? Are you too lazy/impatient to put in years of "natural" work to build a solid foundation?
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Great lifts
just do what works for you....
i personally take the weight all the way down and to my pecs.. but i never fully lock out... to save my elbows and also that i dont rest on the top..
dont list to what the majority are sayin.. do what works for you.. if you were pressing 60lb dumbells.. you wouldnt get half the comments about range of motion.. ,.. but because you are pressing a weight most probably couldnt lift from the floor much less to partially shrug it.... thats why your gettin all the hate..
great lifts...man
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Great lifts
just do what works for you....
i personally take the weight all the way down and to my pecs.. but i never fully lock out... to save my elbows and also that i dont rest on the top..
dont list to what the majority are sayin.. do what works for you.. if you were pressing 60lb dumbells.. you wouldnt get half the comments about range of motion.. ,.. but because you are pressing a weight most probably couldnt lift from the floor much less to partially shrug it.... thats why your gettin all the hate..
great lifts...man
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jhaha very good opints thanx!
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And il say to you.... MAXAMIZE every lift safely. If i go all the way down for the stretch, i still transfer stress to my delts and rotator (dangerous) and put my pecs in a compromised position waiting for injury. I get my stretch on my fly movements or my lighter pressing movements (2nd exercise and on). This was a mass builder, plain and simple....
And ya.. chest sux...
I envy your chest ! and I'm positive you are stronger than me . I did 405 x3 at 210-215 with 100 mg d-bol in me. I don't know how much is 160's but I'm pretty positive I cannot do it. props bro and good luck with your show. I like hard workers .
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I envy your chest ! and I'm positive you are stronger than me . I did 405 x3 at 210-215 with 100 mg d-bol in me. I don't know how much is 160's but I'm pretty positive I cannot do it. props bro and good luck with your show. I like hard workers .
Pretty damn strong. I dont do flat bench. Something like 90% of pec tears come from flat so ya... im scared... call me a pussy haha. Iv done 405x1 incline BB but usually its 315x8ish. I go really slow and controlled because im paranoid, im positive it hurts my strength. But id rather lift a little less, than end up with a nasty looking unrepairable debilitating pec tear.
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Hey Slim, I wasn't asking you what your cycle was because I wanted to be on it. ::) This was my backhanded way of ridiculing you for turning to roids when you're not even 25 years old yet. It's posers like you, who are impatient to put years of "natural" hard work in, that give steroid users a bad name.
Moron.
hahahahaha what you meant to say was, oh my god, i cant belive you are so strong and look so good. i'm so jealous, i hate you because your everything i want to be. i know i'll just slam you for using gear instead of working hard myself.
your a disgrace to panda's !!!!
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hahahahaha what you meant to say was, oh my god, i cant belive you are so strong and look so good. i'm so jealous, i hate you because your everything i want to be. i know i'll just slam you for using gear instead of working hard myself.
your a disgrace to panda's !!!!
lol ;D
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Pretty damn strong. I dont do flat bench. Something like 90% of pec tears come from flat so ya... im scared... call me a pussy haha. Iv done 405x1 incline BB but usually its 315x8ish. I go really slow and controlled because im paranoid, im positive it hurts my strength. But id rather lift a little less, than end up with a nasty looking unrepairable debilitating pec tear.
there's a great deal to be learnt from p/lifters when it comes to benching heavy as obviously they bench press the heaviest weight (in real terms as opposed to fantasy claims by bbers like trey brewer).
imo, the main reason why you don't tend to get pec tears with dbs is because you are forced to use less total tension ie weight of dbs you use is total of 300, when you are capable of significantly more load in that rom (315 x 8). in fact, if you actually bring the bar all the way down to the sternum in the bench you would be using a greater rom in that exercise.
my theory on the pec tears is: too heavy a weight (more than lifter is capable of) x too much rom = pec tear.
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there's a great deal to be learnt from p/lifters when it comes to benching heavy as obviously they bench press the heaviest weight (in real terms as opposed to fantasy claims by bbers like trey brewer).
imo, the main reason why you don't tend to get pec tears with dbs is because you are forced to use less total tension ie weight of dbs you use is total of 300, when you are capable of significantly more load in that rom (315 x 8). in fact, if you actually bring the bar all the way down to the sternum in the bench you would be using a greater rom in that exercise.
my theory on the pec tears is: too heavy a weight (more than lifter is capable of) x too much rom = pec tear.
true... my left shoulder joint is KILLING me the last 2 days. On elastijoint, which is a great product for it. Im skipping shoulders today because of it, maybe my strenth was ready for it, but my body was not.... sux