Does Dorian for example still use minimal amounts of synthetic testosterone in order to maintain a normal life?
Certainly Ronnie will never have natural levels back...
What do you say?
i say test levels are about a 12year old girl
like natural freak flex wheeler :D
Is this why you are going to medical school in Korea and not in the USA? ::)
If you ask Milos he will tell you he has no problems with his test production.
Is this why you are going to medical school in Korea and not in the USA? ::)
WTF are you trying to say?
i think its another way of saying: i hate this guy because he has a better physique than i will ever have.
No. Undoubtably he does and has superior genetics and a lifetime of sport has added to that but that has nothing to do with my comment. I don't particularly care about other people's physiques in any event; they are theirs and mine is mine and I work to improve mine. Moving on I wished this thread to be serious and I thought his imput ill placed. Quite apart from that, why would an American citizen, with the vast selection of medical schools available in America, voluntarily come to S. Korea to pursue medical school where the universities generally don't hold a candle to most in the USA? It sounds fishy.
Moreover the demonstrably poor punctuation and spelling of his irritate me no end.
you seem to be a smart guy, but like many smart guys, you overcomplicate stuff....without knowing you .i think thats a big reason as to why you havent gotten the best results out of your training (you blame it on genetics all the time)...
when your in the gym, become an animal, dont think, let your animal instincts take over. (dont pee on the floor tho)
No. Undoubtably he does and has superior genetics and a lifetime of sport has added to that but that has nothing to do with my comment. I don't particularly care about other people's physiques in any event; they are theirs and mine is mine and I work to improve mine. Moving on I wished this thread to be serious and I thought his imput ill placed. Quite apart from that, why would an American citizen, with the vast selection of medical schools available in America, voluntarily come to S. Korea to pursue medical school where the universities generally don't hold a candle to most in the USA? It sounds fishy.1. i'm korean.living in US for a couple of years doesnt make me a citizen.which is why i go to school here.
Moreover the demonstrably poor punctuation and spelling of his irritate me no end.
1. i'm korean.living in US for a couple of years doesnt make me a citizen.which is why i go to school here.
2. my ass you don;t care about others physiques. just look at your posts in my pics thread.your obsessed with it.
3. slaveboy is right. just go train for friggin sakes.
4. your obsession with good looking naturals is getting freaky now
1. Ah... Nanun ee hae hada...I thought you might be Korean.
2. Care? As in jealousy, no. Interested, yes. Obsessed, no.
3. Before I learnt things and gained knowledge I 'just' trained and went nowhere. When one has extremely poor genetics, the only weapon one has is knowledge.
4. A bit of narcissism huh? Not bad. And once again I fail to see how this post or any of its contents for that matter indicate an 'obsession with good looking naturals'.
If you ask Milos he will tell you he has no problems with his test production.
you accuse any decent-looking natural of juicing. or am i the first.
you accuse any decent-looking natural of juicing. or am i the first.
No. Undoubtably he does and has superior genetics and a lifetime of sport has added to that but that has nothing to do with my comment. I don't particularly care about other people's physiques in any event; they are theirs and mine is mine and I work to improve mine. Moving on I wished this thread to be serious and I thought his imput ill placed. Quite apart from that, why would an American citizen, with the vast selection of medical schools available in America, voluntarily come to S. Korea to pursue medical school where the universities generally don't hold a candle to most in the USA? It sounds fishy.LOL. FIFY
Moreover[,]thehis demonstrably poor punctuation and spellingof hisirritate me no end.
LOL. FIFY
How tall are you Dragon?
If you ask Milos he will tell you he has no problems with his test production.
This thread sure degenerated quickly. haha
It's as dead as anyone else's at that stage in life....BBer or not.
i'd like to hear more about what happens to pros when they retire.Arnold looks like a bag full of weed
but after years off aritificially inflating your test level I thought the the body reduced it's own natural production..so all things be equal a pro should have less natural production after coming off compared to a "normal" person at the same age.. correct me if I am wrong
You're wrong.
ONLY if you're a complete maniac with the gear will your test levels shrink to nothing...even at that, your natural production may indeed be suppressed during a cycle, but will bounce back fairly quickly....
Bottom line is, a males natural test production will diminish greatly over time....normally. Whether you do a few cycles or not cannot change that fact.
All of this, of course, is highly subject to individual dosage, response to gear, and duration of usage.....
Does Dorian for example still use minimal amounts of synthetic testosterone in order to maintain a normal life?
Certainly Ronnie will never have natural levels back...
What do you say?
Sorry, your wrong. Even low levels of HRT test. can and will shut down normal testicular test. production. ::)
No he's right. Chick is saying that your levels do indeed go down on a cycle but unless you are completely crazy and stay on for long amounts of time and really fuck things up, you will go right once you come off the gear.
It's funny how no one has mentioned Insulin and the fact that after years of using it, the pancreas stops producing it on its own leading to Diabetes II....I am sure that Ronnie is diabetic by now...
Honestly, how often do bbers like Chick REALLY go off AAS ?
You're wrong.Serious question. How were your test levels when you were off a while back (at least looked like it). Did you do extensive HCG/HMG/Clomid etc, treatments?
ONLY if you're a complete maniac with the gear will your test levels shrink to nothing...even at that, your natural production may indeed be suppressed during a cycle, but will bounce back fairly quickly....
Bottom line is, a males natural test production will diminish greatly over time....normally. Whether you do a few cycles or not cannot change that fact.
All of this, of course, is highly subject to individual dosage, response to gear, and duration of usage.....
Serious question. How were your test levels when you were off a while back (at least looked like it). Did you do extensive HCG/HMG/Clomid etc, treatments?
I don't think the rebound is fast without help from other drugs. Studies show that even after fairly moderate use it can take about 2 years to restore it fully. Even the 200mg/test week contraception studies showed it took like at least 4 months before it starts to climb back IIRC.
I don't know how dosage dependent it is either. Like cswole says (I rarely agree with him) a minute dosage of anavar is enough to shut you down (15mg of anavar will drop your test by 30% in 3 days!). If you are shut down, you are shut down.
It's funny how no one has mentioned Insulin and the fact that after years of using it, the pancreas stops producing it on its own leading to Diabetes II....I am sure that Ronnie is diabetic by now...
So, insulin resistant diabetes, isn't a decreased sensitivity to insulin in the tissues.....but in fact, is an inability of the pancreas to produce insulin?
Please alert the medical community.
Type 2 diabetes mellitus—previously known as non-insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus (NIDDM), adult-onset diabetes or maturity-onset diabetes—is due to insulin resistance or reduced insulin sensitivity, combined with reduced insulin secretion. The defective responsiveness of body tissues to insulin almost certainly involves the insulin receptor in cell membranes. In the early stage the predominant abnormality is reduced insulin sensitivity, characterized by elevated levels of insulin in the blood. At this stage hyperglycemia can be reversed by a variety of measures and medications that improve insulin sensitivity or reduce glucose production by the liver. As the disease progresses the impairment of insulin secretion worsens, and therapeutic replacement of insulin often becomes necessary.
It's funny how no one has mentioned Insulin and the fact that after years of using it, the pancreas stops producing it on its own leading to Diabetes II....I am sure that Ronnie is diabetic by now...You are probably wrong. Exogenous insulin may in fact protect one from getting a sluggish or "burned out" pancreas. I know Milos believes this, as do others like Disgusted.