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Title: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: Paul Allen on September 27, 2007, 11:53:50 AM
Two of these companies have dug their way into the GetBig chaos.

Progenex - sponsorship of a getbig contest, new company owned by Dr. Connelly, one of the main guys behind Met-RX, endorsed by Mindspin, a competitive bodybuilder and a guy with many years in the industry.  No marketing yet, no products to offer on the market, donated 5,000 to getbig members.

Muscle Asylum - sponsorship of nothing, owner not known, previous history not known, endorsed by....Ron?

which one do you think will survive getbig's standards?
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: Colossus_1986 on September 27, 2007, 12:01:23 PM
Two of these companies have dug their way into the GetBig chaos.

Progenex - sponsorship of a getbig contest, new company owned by Dr. Connelly, one of the main guys behind Met-RX, endorsed by Mindspin, a competitive bodybuilder and a guy with many years in the industry.  No marketing yet, no products to offer on the market, donated 5,000 to getbig members.

Muscle Asylum - sponsorship of nothing, owner not known, previous history not known, endorsed by....Ron?

which one do you think will survive getbig's standards?

Muscletech  ;)  (trust me...)
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: Paul Allen on September 27, 2007, 12:02:39 PM
Muscletech  ;)  (trust me...)

it makes sense.

is muscletech having some legal problems right now?
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: 2ND COMING on September 27, 2007, 12:05:33 PM
it makes sense.

is muscletech having some legal problems right now?

no legal probs but, a new mr olympia will arise and he will endorse muscle asylum
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: Paul Allen on September 27, 2007, 12:07:22 PM
no legal probs but, a new mr olympia will arise and he will endorse muscle asylum

you're not implying that the judges work for muscle asylum, are you 2nd coming?
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: Colossus_1986 on September 27, 2007, 12:12:09 PM
it makes sense.

is muscletech having some legal problems right now?

no just a spinoff...just like back in the day weider owned ABB

that GNC owns NX-CARE (NX-LABS)

so many companies are connected, same owners etc....

in a business where only few survive, its only normal for those FEW to have multiple companies...

> much like the auto industry.
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: 2ND COMING on September 27, 2007, 12:12:28 PM
yo soy implying that muscle tech owns muscle asylum, and muscle tech runs teh olimpia, you can figure out the rest
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: Colossus_1986 on September 27, 2007, 12:22:29 PM
yo soy implying that muscle tech owns muscle asylum, and muscle tech runs teh olimpia, you can figure out the rest

and the Muscle-Asylum clock runs out on the day of the olympia...its all making sense now!! right?!
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: 2ND COMING on September 27, 2007, 12:24:19 PM
mediocre...sarcasm? i dont know what your asking they're shane
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 27, 2007, 12:26:04 PM
yo soy implying that muscle tech owns muscle asylum, and muscle tech runs teh olimpia, you can figure out the rest

If the product says IOVATE somewhere on the label it's Muscletech. IOVATE is the parent company for MT, Muscle Asylum etc.
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: Colossus_1986 on September 27, 2007, 12:27:33 PM
mediocre...sarcasm? i dont know what your asking they're shane

bit of both...point is these supplement companies are fooling nobody.

months ago word came about of Silvio signing a contract with muscletech (around the milos-photo-situation time)

and then you never see him in a muscletech ad...then muscle-asylum comes along...and bam!

you gotta figure they're connected.

also with the number of pages and advertisement in every major mags...3-4 page Ads...who else has that kind of pull?

it's obvious to many.
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: jaejonna on September 27, 2007, 12:35:00 PM
Muscle Asylum is just an ad campaign for Muscletech ... plain and simple.

Progenex however seems to be the REAL THING!!!!

 A good company with good people on board.  ;D

I can't wait to see thier line of products all of which I will highly endorse.
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 27, 2007, 05:05:41 PM

which one do you think will survive getbig's standards?


Unless they've got crushed-up dbol in the mix, neither one.  ;D
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2007, 05:17:51 PM
I am a strong believer in only creatine for a little water strength, and whey for a meal replacement.  I don't buy into most supplements.  I use free ones when they arrive, sure.  But I don't swear by many.

Those milk pills though - there might be something to them.  Connely sent them to me 2 years ago, and I raved about them back then.  They took away soreness.  I have no clue what's in them, and I have no clue if the same things I took are the two new products.  All I know is, the ten milk pills I took each day took away soreness.  And I'd buy them again. 

I run www.mrgetbig.com and I'm sure some will just accuse me of saying whatever because it's the sponsor, but I went on and on about Dr C's supplement back then before any of this came to be.
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: I ETA PI on September 27, 2007, 05:21:41 PM
I am a strong believer in only creatine for a little water strength, and whey for a meal replacement.  I don't buy into most supplements.  I use free ones when they arrive, sure.  But I don't swear by many.

Those milk pills though - there might be something to them.  Connely sent them to me 2 years ago, and I raved about them back then.  They took away soreness.  I have no clue what's in them, and I have no clue if the same things I took are the two new products.  All I know is, the ten milk pills I took each day took away soreness.  And I'd buy them again. 

I run www.mrgetbig.com and I'm sure some will just accuse me of saying whatever because it's the sponsor, but I went on and on about Dr C's supplement back then before any of this came to be.

Well those strategies sure have paid off for you!

Iovate has a shit load of different fat burners in all the women's magazines.  I know, because I read them all to get some tips before I head out to a house party. 
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 27, 2007, 05:24:16 PM
Two of these companies have dug their way into the GetBig chaos.

Progenex - sponsorship of a getbig contest, new company owned by Dr. Connelly, one of the main guys behind Met-RX, endorsed by Mindspin, a competitive bodybuilder and a guy with many years in the industry.  No marketing yet, no products to offer on the market, donated 5,000 to getbig members.

Muscle Asylum - sponsorship of nothing, owner not known, previous history not known, endorsed by....Ron?


Mindspin made his millions of working for Met-RX in sales when it was in its golden years.  Now it makes perfect sense and I knew there was something up with this company.  It stinks to high heaven

which one do you think will survive getbig's standards?
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2007, 05:30:40 PM
Well those strategies sure have paid off for you!

I don't have a clue what the new products are.  I got sent the product free.  I tried it.  I didn't get sore from lifting anymore.  This isn't a sales strategy that worked on me.  Simply something that took away soreness that I got for free.  I don't even know if the new stuff is the same thing. 
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: the choad on September 27, 2007, 05:35:49 PM
I tried altered state, it's spiked with halotestin and cheque drops... :)
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: I ETA PI on September 27, 2007, 05:36:10 PM
I don't have a clue what the new products are.  I got sent the product free.  I tried it.  I didn't get sore from lifting anymore.  This isn't a sales strategy that worked on me.  Simply something that took away soreness that I got for free.  I don't even know if the new stuff is the same thing. 

When did you start working out?  Sometimes beginners don't have the proper nerve innervation to create enough trauma for DOMS.  
That could be the reason.
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2007, 05:44:17 PM
When did you start working out?  Sometimes beginners don't have the proper nerve innervation to create enough trauma for DOMS.  
That could be the reason.

it was probably the amino/protein/whatever that I was missing in my diet.  Those ten pills provided it, I guess.  Perhaps a well-balanced diet would make the pills less effective.  Or more.  Who knows.  I ate crap and I was sore a lot.  I did nothing but add the pills and was very happy with them.  I tired to get more, offering to buy, but they weren't ready yet.  That was Oct 2005 I think. 
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: MindSpin on November 12, 2008, 11:02:43 AM
Two of these companies have dug their way into the GetBig chaos.

Progenex - sponsorship of a getbig contest, new company owned by Dr. Connelly, one of the main guys behind Met-RX, endorsed by Mindspin, a competitive bodybuilder and a guy with many years in the industry.  No marketing yet, no products to offer on the market, donated 5,000 to getbig members.

Muscle Asylum - sponsorship of nothing, owner not known, previous history not known, endorsed by....Ron?

which one do you think will survive getbig's standards?

I can tell you that unlike most of the other sports nutrition companies, this is not another marketing gimmick.  You are not going to see a print ad campaign.  there is not going to be a roster of fake athlete endorsements. And, you will not find it on the shelves of any retailer.

Dr. Connelly will not profit from the sales of this product.  All profits will go to a charity foundation.  Also, the amount of research that has gone into this protein is more than all other Sports Nutrition companies combined. 

I've been using it for over a year.  I can honestly tell you that in spite of the fact that my training & nutrition has been absolutely shitty because of my workload this year, I have managed to stay lean and actually put on a good 8-10 lbs of lean muscle.  I love the the stuff...   
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 12, 2008, 11:41:10 AM
I would like to give an update on my opinion of Progenex:


My previous comments regarding Progenex was made prior to me meeting face to face with Mr Connelly.  We chatted for about 15 minutes mainly on the sponsorship but I did discuss the product with him as well as came to the conclusion that he was on to something pretty big. 

His product may be one of the first true supplement that uses bioactive nutrients....something very difficult to produce and manufacture on a large scale.

I would have to try the product first, but he did create Met-Rx MRP which put an end to athletes choking down nasty drinks. A previous resume of approval does help in his cause 
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: danielson on November 12, 2008, 01:03:56 PM
Dr. Connelly is a generous man. After Avesher wins the contest and flies out to meet him, we will find out much more about him and his products.
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: 240 is Back on November 12, 2008, 01:06:13 PM
Dr. Connelly is a generous man. After Avesher wins the contest and flies out to meet him, we will find out much more about him and his products.

Avesher is very gracious for entering our show.  He could be winning much bigger shows, but he chooses to keep it real, competing here.  I give him props for that, he never forgot his roots.
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: wavelength on November 12, 2008, 01:07:41 PM
Avesher is very gracious for entering our show.  He could be winning much bigger shows, but he chooses to keep it real, competing here.  I give him props for that, he never forgot his roots.

Agreed, plus he makes sure it's a big man's show. What a top-notch bodybuilding show should be. Like the Olympia.
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: Bluto on November 12, 2008, 01:14:42 PM
thread will be moved to the nutrition board. feel free to continue discussing this issue there. its an interesting topic
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: MindSpin on November 12, 2008, 02:51:27 PM
  I'm fortunate that I get to spend time with Dr. Connelly and his wife regularly.  I learn something new every time.  It's going to be pretty cool to have a get bigger get that same opportunity.
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: AVBG on November 12, 2008, 02:52:23 PM
  I'm fortunate that I get to spend time with Dr. Connelly and his wife regularly.  I learn something new every time.  It's going to be pretty cool to have a get bigger get that same opportunity.

Find out if his progenex line will be available in Australia?
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: MindSpin on November 12, 2008, 02:54:40 PM
Find out if his progenex line will be available in Australia?
  It already is under a different brand.  The Progenex brand itself will make it's way there soon...
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: AVBG on November 12, 2008, 03:16:21 PM
  It already is under a different brand.  The Progenex brand itself will make it's way there soon...

what is the brand name?
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: Ron on November 12, 2008, 03:37:52 PM

Muscle Asylum is doing very well lately with their products, at least here in the United States.  Yes, Iovate is the main company, which has Muscletech, Muscle Asylum, Cytogenix (Xenadrene), and Six Star.  But the brand Muscle Asylum itself, people seem to like.

Progenex is so new, not too many people know about it. I think there are three products, as I have been to Dr. Scott Connelly's house, and did an interview with him on many topics.  It isnt being marketed to everyone, and it is a high end product.

Progenex is also sponsoring the Mr. Getbig contest, which is cool, and has been for the last few years.
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: danielson on November 12, 2008, 03:40:17 PM

Progenex is so new, not too many people know about it. I think there are three products, as I have been to Dr. Scott Connelly's house,


Did you win an online bodybuilding show ???  Also, how do you think Avesher will find the accommodations there?
Title: Re: Progenex vs. Muscle Asylum debate
Post by: Bluto on November 12, 2008, 03:51:55 PM
Ron when you say "Dr. Scott Connelly's house" don't you mean mansion?