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Title: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 27, 2007, 06:41:30 PM
does anyone have this mag?

I am looking for a quote from Ronnie Coleman in the olympia coverage about his condition compared to 98.

I had the mag up until a few years ago.

if someone has it let me know.

thanks.

I want to shut ND the fuck up once and for all 8)
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 27, 2007, 06:50:36 PM
does anyone have this mag?

I am looking for a quote from Ronnie Coleman in the olympia coverage about his condition compared to 98.

I had the mag up until a few years ago.

if someone has it let me know.

thanks.

I want to shut ND the fuck up once and for all 8)


You can only try kid  ;) and it doesn't matter if he did say it back then , he said two weeks ago on Pro Bodybuilding Weekly his best Olympia appearance was 1998 and why? because his conditioning was SPOT ON this echo Peter McGough sentiment on both contests in question

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


Its common knowledge the heavier Ronnie got the more his conditioning suffered hence why his two best condition-wise showings he was UNDER 250 pounds 1998 he was 249 pounds and in 2001 he was as low as 244 pounds and as high as 247 pounds ! you're the only one who doesn't get this because you're stupid .  ;)
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 27, 2007, 06:54:07 PM
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Its common knowledge the heavier Ronnie got the more his conditioning suffered hence why his two best condition-wise showings he was UNDER 250 pounds 1998 he was 249 pounds and in 2001 he was as low as 244 pounds and as high as 247 pounds ! you're the only one who doesn't get this because you're stupid

yes, it suffered so much in 99...

 ::)

ND, when 'assessing' physiques, do you even open your eyes?

 ::)
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 27, 2007, 06:56:34 PM
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and it doesn't matter if he did say it back then ,

oh yes it does.

it matters even more.

he was much more likely to be correct only a year out from 99 than he would be 10 years later looking that far back.

and he WAS correct, as we can see in ALL the comparisons between the two contests..
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 27, 2007, 06:59:59 PM
oh yes it does.

it matters even more.

he was much more likely to be correct only a year out from 99 than he would be 10 years later looking that far back.

and he WAS correct, as we can see in ALL the comparisons between the two contests..


lmfao desperate attempt to salvage a ignorant opinion ! yes his first win wouldn't stick in his mind lol oh and I love the accurate comparisons from 98-99 lol those sure do silence the eyewitnesses you know Ronnie & Peter who were both there LIVE and in PERSON lol again why judge contests in person? lets do it the Hulkster way at home on the pc lol loser
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 27, 2007, 07:11:50 PM
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you don't seem to understand that if visual evidence easily proves someone's opinion is incorrect, NO MATTER WHO GIVES IT, it is just that: incorrect.

Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: kiwiol on September 27, 2007, 07:15:24 PM
Hulkster, Ronnie of 98 was way drier than his 99 version. But I too like his 99 version cause even though he wasn't as dry as the previous year, he was heavier and a lot bigger. Thats also when his upper legs started ballooning up.
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 27, 2007, 07:16:46 PM
Hulkster, Ronnie of 98 was way drier than his 99 version. But I too like his 99 version cause even though he wasn't as dry as the previous year, he was heavier and a lot bigger. Thats also when his upper legs started ballooning up.

Great post ! like I said Ronnie was drier and more lean in 1998 he was fuller in 99 and looked better for it despite not being as dry , he's going to argue with Ronnie Coleman for Christ's sake lol
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 27, 2007, 07:19:03 PM


Your momentary glimpses into a 6 hour event does NOT trump people who are there live and in person , only a retard would claim the contrary . if Ronnie Coleman and Peter McGough say he's better conditioned in 1998 he is period , no amount of crying on your part will change this.
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: kiwiol on September 27, 2007, 07:31:54 PM
Your momentary glimpses into a 6 hour event does NOT trump people who are there live and in person , only a retard would claim the contrary . if Ronnie Coleman and Peter McGough say he's better conditioned in 1998 he is period , no amount of crying on your part will change this.

In 1999, Peter McGough and Ronnie may have admitted that he was drier in the previous year (98), but on the flip side, Dorian Yates said that 'Ronnie looks like a cartoon character'. I'm sure Ronnie could live with that 8)

Ronnie was only 257, but he filled out so much that he had more muscle volume and therefore, looked bigger than the much heavier Nasser.
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 27, 2007, 09:31:32 PM
lmfao desperate attempt to salvage a ignorant opinion ! yes his first win wouldn't stick in his mind lol oh and I love the accurate comparisons from 98-99 lol those sure do silence the eyewitnesses you know Ronnie & Peter who were both there LIVE and in PERSON lol again why judge contests in person? lets do it the Hulkster way at home on the pc lol loser

your just bitter because everyone and their uncle can see that dorian lost the truce thread really really badly.. :P
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 01:37:37 AM
your just bitter because everyone and their uncle can see that dorian lost the truce thread really really badly.. :P

You're just bitter because you lost the truce thread because you're fucking stupid .  ;)
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 01:42:16 AM
In 1999, Peter McGough and Ronnie may have admitted that he was drier in the previous year (98), but on the flip side, Dorian Yates said that 'Ronnie looks like a cartoon character'. I'm sure Ronnie could live with that 8)

Ronnie was only 257, but he filled out so much that he had more muscle volume and therefore, looked bigger than the much heavier Nasser.

Density kills volume they judges ask for density specifically , this kid thinks he's right and everyone else is wrong , do you know he actually had the balls to say he's just as qualified to judge a contest as professional judges AT HOME WITH PICTURES lol
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Pollux on September 28, 2007, 04:24:41 AM
You two knuckleheads are at it again?  ::)
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 28, 2007, 04:39:50 AM
You're just bitter because you lost the truce thread because you're fucking stupid .  ;)

LOL this coming from someone who insists that all visual comparisons in the sport are wrong...just because dorian gets his ass kicked by prime time Ronnie..

how fucking convienient.. ::)

"since I can't win based on the merits of dorian's physique, I'll just say the comparisons are all wrong and close my eyes and pretend they don't exist"

 ::)

Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: kiwiol on September 28, 2007, 05:13:33 AM
Density kills volume they judges ask for density specifically , this kid thinks he's right and everyone else is wrong , do you know he actually had the balls to say he's just as qualified to judge a contest as professional judges AT HOME WITH PICTURES lol

I love Dorian to death, but can't you agree that Ronnie at his peak had a better physique and put an end to the misery, ND? ;D
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Trev on September 28, 2007, 05:37:42 AM
Hey Narc & Hulkster - Are you guys married??!!! You sound like me and my wife !!!!
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 28, 2007, 09:11:39 AM
I love Dorian to death, but can't you agree that Ronnie at his peak had a better physique and put an end to the misery, ND? ;D

no he can't agree because that would take intelligence.

thank God ND is not the typical bodybuilding fan.

the rest of us are so much smarter than he is.

We can all see plain as day that dorian was not up to the standard set by Ronnie at his peak.

dorian was a bricklayer among bodybuilders 8):
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 01:05:09 PM
no he can't agree because that would take intelligence.

thank God ND is not the typical bodybuilding fan.

the rest of us are so much smarter than he is.

We can all see plain as day that dorian was not up to the standard set by Ronnie at his peak.

dorian was a bricklayer among bodybuilders 8):

You're damn right I'm not the typical bodybduilding fan I know how the game is played and YOU don't  ;) I'm savy and you're NOT you don't even know the criteria for fucks sake , you're the ' typical ' bodybuilding fan who said Dorian should have lost in 1993 LMFAO you're the ' typical ' bodybuilding fan who sai you're just as qualified to judge a contest as professional are AT HOME with pictures , enough said .

Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 01:08:43 PM
I love Dorian to death, but can't you agree that Ronnie at his peak had a better physique and put an end to the misery, ND? ;D

No he doesn't have a better physique not from the standpoint of balance & proportion , not from the standpoint of conditioning & density or bulk or posing , peak Ronnie doesn't meet the judging criteria as good as Dorian !
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: jaejonna on September 28, 2007, 01:14:38 PM
Not to get into a fight with anyone but Muscletime has a gallery from the 1993 Mr. O ...and Dorian looked disgusting, totally wiping out everyone there.
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 28, 2007, 01:15:23 PM
No he doesn't have a better physique not from the standpoint of balance & proportion , not from the standpoint of conditioning & density or bulk or posing , peak Ronnie doesn't meet the judging criteria as good as Dorian !

 ::)
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 28, 2007, 01:17:57 PM
Not to get into a fight with anyone but Muscletime has a gallery from the 1993 Mr. O ...and Dorian looked disgusting, totally wiping out everyone there.

yup. some shots from it:

dorian looked good in 93.

of course it helps when your nearest competition is 30 pounds lighter than you are. Not to mention 100x more narrow.

in Ronnie 99, dorian would not have either advantage.
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 01:19:43 PM
::)

Thats all you have fan-boy your silence speaks volumes.  ;)

Dorian has better balance & proportion compared to Ronnie
Dorian has better conditioning than Ronnie
Dorian has better density than Ronnie
Dorian while being NO Labrada is a better poser than Ronnie

this you can't counter NO matter how many 99 screencaps you post.  ;)
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: jaejonna on September 28, 2007, 01:20:38 PM
I never saw so many pics from the shows they have galleries for....

PS Dorians Calves are mind blowing!!
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 01:22:58 PM
yup. some shots from it:

dorian looked good in 93.

of course it helps when your nearest competition is 30 pounds lighter than you are. Not to mention 100x more narrow.

in Ronnie 99, dorian would not have either advantage.

Ronnie 99 weighs the same as Yates , who cares he's NOT I repeat NOT a bone dry & rock hard 257 pounds and so what Flex was narrower he beat Ronnie 9 times despite being narrower lol so much for those edges , Ronnie 99 is incomplete his conditioning isn't as good as Dorian , his density isn't his balance & proportion aren't , cling to imaginary advantages such as taper  ;)
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 01:24:34 PM
I never saw so many pics from the shows they have galleries for....

PS Dorians Calves are mind blowing!!

And Ronnie's aren't hence exactly why Ronnie's balance & proportion suck compared to Dorian among other reasons .
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 28, 2007, 01:25:47 PM
Ronnie 99 weighs the same as Yates , who cares he's NOT I repeat NOT a bone dry & rock hard 257 pounds and so what Flex was narrower he beat Ronnie 9 times despite being narrower lol so much for those edges , Ronnie 99 is incomplete his conditioning isn't as good as Dorian , his density isn't his balance & proportion aren't , cling to imaginary advantages such as taper  ;)

blah blah blah blah blah

the bricklayer stands tall:

Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 28, 2007, 01:26:54 PM
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cling to imaginary advantages such as taper 

and this idiot claims he knows more than everyone about judging... ::)
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 01:28:30 PM
and this idiot claims he knows more than everyone about judging... ::)

I know more than YOU  ;) and you're the idiot who claimed you're just as qualified to judge a contest from HOME looking at pictures  as a professional live and in person lol I own you kid
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 28, 2007, 01:29:05 PM
LMAO:
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 01:31:01 PM
blah blah blah blah blah

the bricklayer stands tall:



I love when you get cornered you revert back to posting pictures lol your silence speaks volumes  ;)

remember you cried photoshopped in this pic? because it crushes your hero.
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 01:34:12 PM
LMAO:

Ah not laughing anymore are you fan-boy ? you think if you post a direct shot it means anything WOW look at Ronnie and his big arms , turn Yates to the side and Coleman doesn't look so impressive next to 260 pounds of density even in this pose kid Dorian still has the edge in balance & proportion , density & conditioning . what now? countdown to the excuses ........3.........2..... .1..................go Hulkster .
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 28, 2007, 01:42:16 PM
what is scary is you actually think that dorian's most muscular as you posted displaying NO detail in the arms, delts and quads is "impressive"

 ::)

you really have no clue.

Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 28, 2007, 01:44:14 PM
honestly, ND, you really don't understand bodybuilding, do you?

 ::)
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 28, 2007, 01:46:20 PM
note the disappointing smoothness not to mention lack of pleasing shape of dorian's arm/delts compared to the "unbeatable" physique of Ronnie 2001 AC as correctly pointed out by Peter McGough, dorian's friend no less.

hahaha
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 28, 2007, 01:48:19 PM
And Ronnie's aren't hence exactly why Ronnie's balance & proportion suck compared to Dorian among other reasons .

lol so dorian's crappy as hell arms quads and taper are all fine and dandy?

 ::)
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 01:52:54 PM
note the disappointing smoothness not to mention lack of pleasing shape of dorian's arm/delts compared to the "unbeatable" physique of Ronnie 2001 AC as correctly pointed out by Peter McGough, dorian's friend no less.

hahaha

See this is where you're exposed as the hypocrite and moron you are , you'll cling to a McGough quote on a very subjective topic yet dismiss his when it pro Dorian , like the criteria you cherry pick the parts you like and dismiss the others

Again Dorian has in the most muscular and every other mandatory poses a clear advantage in density & conditioning , balance & proportion , and compared to Ronnie 2001 he has a clear size advantage , wow Ronnie has big arms and better tie-ins lol that doesn't win a pose and recall ALL rounds are physique rounds  so my friend cling on for dear life for advantages YOU THINK wins poses , I'll crush you with what the judges are looking for  ;)

Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 02:00:08 PM
lol so dorian's crappy as hell arms quads and taper are all fine and dandy?

 ::)

I love when you type strawmen I love it because its so easy to expose you for what you are a biased idiot who thinks he's accomplished something by posting a single picture and you haven't my friend , lets see his arms from another angle and opppppppssssssssssss Oh damn his arms in 93 are fucking HUGE and only a biased moron would claim Dorian's arms are crappy ( oh wait thats you lol ) Dorian has good biceps , great triceps and a fuck-of-lot-better forearms than Ronnie , couple that with better proportion and any comment you make to the contrary is exposed for the bullshit it is , and Dorian's taper in 1993 is great even for a man with a naturally wide waist & hips , now keep this in mind idiot when his midsection is held tight his taper is great period. end of sentence , not the greatest by any means but damn great for a man his size.
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 02:02:08 PM
How's this for taper fan-boy? lol
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 28, 2007, 02:09:43 PM
LOL 'for a man his size"

guess what? Ronnie is the same weight as dorian (257 in 99) and his taper blew dorian's off the map with a wasp waist to boot.

sure, you can 'settle' for dorian's taper.

hell, thats what they did back in 93.

but ronnie took the sport to the next level, presenting a package that not only had dorian's size, but much better aesthetics and a wasp waist to boot.

ND, you are living in the ironage .
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 02:15:24 PM
LOL 'for a man his size"

guess what? Ronnie is the same weight as dorian (257 in 99) and his taper blew dorian's off the map with a wasp waist to boot.

sure, you can 'settle' for dorian's taper.

hell, thats what they did back in 93.

but ronnie took the sport to the next level, presenting a package that not only had dorian's size, but much better aesthetics and a wasp waist to boot.

ND, you are living in the ironage .

For a man of his size plus having natually wider waist & hips and Hulkster Dorian beat almost HALF of the most aesthetic bodybuilders on Flex magazine's list lol and guess what Ronnie wasn't on that list , Ronnie's taper is NOT an advantage , Ronnie's ( lmfao ) aesthetics are NOT an advantage

and Ronnie didn't have Dorian's size no , no slick Dorian was a bone dry & rock hard 257 pounds Ronnie wasn't big difference  ;) learn this kid , Dorian is the criteria .
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 02:17:28 PM
The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


This is the criteria kid and it leans heavily on Dorian's side .
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: Hulkster on September 28, 2007, 02:33:21 PM
LOL aesthetics and taper not an advantage?

well guess what genius: put aesthetics and taper on a big guy (not a 210 pounder) and guess what happens?

dorian loses.

just ask Lee Haney
LMAO
Title: Re: Muscle and Fitness 99 olympia coverage
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2007, 02:48:29 PM
LOL aesthetics and taper not an advantage?

well guess what genius: put aesthetics and taper on a big guy (not a 210 pounder) and guess what happens?

dorian loses.

just ask Lee Haney
LMAO

I love when you think you have something Dorian was 239 pounds when he lost to Haney and he still managed to beat him in the muscularity rounds lol was he 257 pounds? NO Dorian 1993 would crush Haney , and Dorian beat Flex Wheeler and his aesthetics oh and he beat Paul Dillett who was 275 pounds aesthetic and had small waist and hips and a fantastic taper , oh snap you accomplished ZERO lol loser

Again Hulkster pay attention , Dorian doesn't have to be like Ronnie to beat Ronnie ever wonder why? because Dorian is the criteria , man you just got owned