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Why is everyone such a fucking asshole to Milos? Everything this guy says, someone is bound to jump down his throat and rebuff any of his advice, suggestions and or opinions...
Now I realize he is outspoken, but that certainly is his RIGHT, given that he not only IS an IFBB Pro, but also has been around in the "game" pretty much all his life... Bodybuilding is his life, he is a Pro, owns a gym where a lot of pro's train and is a trainer to many of the top pros... So? What's the deal?
I've met Milos in person and he was one of the most down to earth people...No ego and was entirely tapped in the "source"... So, really, for all the shit talkers out there, you are either oblivious to the WEALTH of knowledge you could receive from him, you are a plain and simple asshole, or you have never met Milos in person... My guess is, all 3...
FOR REAL
Oh and not for nothing, but his wife is hot as hell, maybe that is why you hate him?
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the only person who hates Milos here is Shawn Ray
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Hi Milos.
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Milos is going to teach me how to utilize my own insulin.
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Luckily Milos has a thick skin and still posts here, others would've left a long time ago....
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Well I'm glad he still posts here... Shawn also... While I don't always agree with the way Shawn acts or things he says, and I realize he and Milos aren't the best of buddies like they used to be lol, it doesn't affect me any...
The more pro's posting on here, the better, I say...
Speaking of pro's, why wasn't Dennis James in the Mr. O? Did he not qualify?
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No one here except shawn really dislikes Milos... he's just one of those guys who is entertaining to pick on.
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Why is everyone such a fucking asshole to Milos? Everything this guy says, someone is bound to jump down his throat and rebuff any of his advice, suggestions and or opinions...
Now I realize he is outspoken, but that certainly is his RIGHT, given that he not only IS an IFBB Pro, but also has been around in the "game" pretty much all his life... Bodybuilding is his life, he is a Pro, owns a gym where a lot of pro's train and is a trainer to many of the top pros... So? What's the deal?
I've met Milos in person and he was one of the most down to earth people...No ego and was entirely tapped in the "source"... So, really, for all the shit talkers out there, you are either oblivious to the WEALTH of knowledge you could receive from him, you are a plain and simple asshole, or you have never met Milos in person... My guess is, all 3...
FOR REAL
Oh and not for nothing, but his wife is hot as hell, maybe that is why you hate him?
I certainly don't hate Milos (hate's a strong and bad word) I just have some disagreements with him reguarding insulin use for bodybuilding.
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I certainly don't hate Milos (hate's a strong and bad word) I just have some disagreements with him reguarding insulin use for bodybuilding.
Like what?
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I hear this crap all the time that someone who is considered to be an asshole is really a "nice guy" "down to earth"..Its called mirroring, its called hustling. I am not saying Milos is an asshole or did this, I dont know him.
I have known male hustlers and the way they get people to like them is to mirror their personality. IF you are down to earth, they are down to earth. If you are professional and business they are professional and all business, if your a partier and outgoing, they are partiers and outgoing. It is the same with female hooker, escorts and especially money hungry sales people. They are experts at mirroring personalities to get what they want. They use this as a tool to manipulate, make "friends" and ultimately use people.
It is my guess that you are the one that is down to earth. Milos being the sales person he is mirrored your personality in order to get you to like him and ultimalety buy his products.
Sorry if this isnt true concerning Milos, like I said I dont know him. I have never met him. He seems nice on this board but there are a lot of people with negative attitudes towards him.
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Milos is a smart ass himself, its not like he doesnt shit on people sometimes too.
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Shawn hates everyone except for Shawn.
epic self love.
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I certainly don't hate Milos (hate's a strong and bad word) I just have some disagreements with him regarding insulin use for bodybuilding.
Then you must have disagreements with 90% of the BB coz they all use insulin,didn't you know that or you're just to naive or maybe you just believe everything you have been told.
1 question to you:
Are you a BB or anything closer to that?
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Shawn hates everyone except for Shawn.
epic self love.
You seem to know him pretty well... cool.
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1 question to you:
Are you a BB or anything closer to that?
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. I know exactly what I'm talking about, just because I disagree with the use of insulin doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. Insulin has ruined BBing..........period!
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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. I know exactly what I'm talking about, just because I disagree with the use of insulin doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. Insulin has ruined BBing..........period!
No Insulin has done fuck all for Bodybuilding.... People taking Insulin have ruined this sport... differences.
Oh and I wish to correct myself here, all these Idiots taking Insulin ruining their health have not ruined MY Sport, I don't care if they all shoot Heroin tomorrow to gain mass, I will continue going to the Gym and enjoying My sport.
And may I ask what you mean with Ruined?
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Shawn hates everyone except for Shawn.
epic self love.
Wasn't it Benjamin Disraeli who once said, "Shawn Ray has no permanent friends and no permanent enemies, only permanent interests"? ;D
I think Henry Kissinger repeted the same quote about Shawn at some point.
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Then you must have disagreements with 90% of the BB coz they all use insulin,didn't you know that or you're just to naive or maybe you just believe everything you have been told.
1 question to you:
Are you a BB or anything closer to that?
Coach is one of the most knowledgeable guy here, after me of course 8)
no one say that insulin doesn't make you put on more muscle, they just say it screw up your lines
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And may I ask what you mean with Ruined?
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Quality of physiques are not even close to what they once were, gone are the days of winning with the right degree of size, symmetry, cuts (and I mean shredded with separation) as one person on here said "carved out of stone" type of conditioning. Too many people are so caught up with size, they sacrifice REAL conditioning for it. One of the main purposes of competing (or it used to be the main purpose) is to come on stage to show the right degree of size but also looking like a walking anatomy chart with also every fiber jumping out with even the slightest move let alone while hitting a pose. Those days are gone.
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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. I know exactly what I'm talking about, just because I disagree with the use of insulin doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. Insulin has ruined BBing..........period!
Then go ahead and post some pictures of yours so that we can all see you non-insulin BB Body.
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no one say that insulin doesn't make you put on more muscle, they just say it screw up your lines
...and conditioning.
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i guess all that milos is trying to get u guys understand is simply ,the right timing and moderate use of insuline wont rouin ur physique
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Then go ahead and post some pictures of yours so that we can all see you non-insulin BB Body.
This was taken 1 1/2 weeks ago, 9 weeks out from my first show in 17 years, I'm 45
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This was 22 years ago.....
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i guess all that milos is trying to get u guys understand is simply ,the right timing and moderate use of insuline wont rouin ur physique
Finlay..somebody with good sence.
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This was taken 1 1/2 weeks ago, 9 weeks out from my first show in 17 years, I'm 45
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This was 22 years ago.....
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DAMMM IT!!!!! we ware all focus on Dennis wolf and Victor Martinez when we had our true Mr.O here all along.
Ho brother please spar me.yeah i can easily see that you're not on insulin(are you even on anything)
and you call yourself a BB?you need to recheck your strategy brother.
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DAMMM IT!!!!! we ware all focus on Dennis wolf and Victor Martinez when we had our true Mr.O here all along.
Ho brother please spar me.yeah i can easily see that you're not on insulin(are you even on anything)
and you call yourself a BB?you need to recheck your strategy brother.
Hahaha....nice try junour ::)
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I forgot one thing...just a little advise...
if you are even thinking on wining that show you better go see Milos and bag for his help
the biggest problem on that is you probably wont have $$ to afford hem ;D
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DAMMM IT!!!!! we ware all focus on Dennis wolf and Victor Martinez when we had our true Mr.O here all along.
Ho brother please spar me.yeah i can easily see that you're not on insulin(are you even on anything)
and you call yourself a BB?you need to recheck your strategy brother.
And your pics are where?
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I forgot one thing...just a little advise...
if you are even thinking on wining that show you better go see Milos and bag for his help
the biggest problem on that is you probably wont have $$ to afford hem ;D
Hahahaha...yeah, I'll get right on that...hahahah!
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I ordered snake oil, paid 30 bucks, but still after 2 weeks no delivery.
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I forgot one thing...just a little advise...
if you are even thinking on wining that show you better go see Milos and bag for his help
the biggest problem on that is you probably wont have $$ to afford hem ;D
LOL....another Milos ass kisser!
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and you call yourself a BB? you need to recheck your strategy brother.
yes, that pic of 22 years ago is what I call a bodybuilder, far superior to the blobs of mass you find at today's top amateur shows.
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i don't consider my self as a bodybuilder coz i am a humble person but i do considerer myself as a man in a road to become a bodybuilder...
i have stooped training for over a year got back to the gym 4 months ago i lost 20kg and just started my off season prep...i can tell you boy i look much better then you....
just wait 2 minutes....
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The Coach....I told you that I would be more than happy to show you how little you really know about insulin...and WHEN I do...maybe than you could attack me and others who use it....
It is pretty much the same as STEROIDS...
Usage is not the real problem - abusing it and simply NOT KNOWING what you are doing with something that potentially could be dangerous - is the real problem...
I know you want to come to Koloseum on weekend...but I haven't spent SINGLE weekend at home (and I do have a new house for more than 5 weeks now) - so maybe next weekend at Koloseum?
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I ordered snake oil, paid 30 bucks, but still after 2 weeks no delivery.
Snake OilTM costs a lot more than $30.
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i don't consider my self as a bodybuilder coz i am a humble person but i do considerer myself as a man in a road to become a bodybuilder...
i have stooped training for over a year got back to the gym 4 months ago i lost 20kg and just started my off season prep...i can tell you boy i look much better then you....
just wait 2 minutes....
The Getbig hat trick:
1 - the "I'm not a bodybuilder so I can justify looking like shit"
2 - the "I used to weigh 300 lbs at 2% bodyfat but I stopped going to the gym for six days and now I'm 165 at 22% bodyfat"
3 - the "you wait, give me 2 weeks and I'll post pics that'll kill Ronnie Coleman"
Congratulations! You're the Wayne Gretzky of this board.
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The Coach....I told you that I would be more than happy to show you how little you really know about insulin...and WHEN I do...maybe than you could attack me and others who use it....
It is pretty much the same as STEROIDS...
Usage is not the real problem - abusing it and simply NOT KNOWING what you are doing with something that potentially could be dangerous - is the real problem...
I know you want to come to Koloseum on weekend...but I haven't spent SINGLE weekend at home (and I do have a new house for more than 5 weeks now) - so maybe next weekend at Koloseum?
Next weekend would be fine. 1-2:00pm would work for me, I work in the morning.
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Hey coach here you go...just don't forget while you're at the gym doing that thing you do i was sleeping and waithing for you to catch up...
Seams like i slept for nothing.
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Next weekend would be fine. 1-2:00pm would work for me, I work act as a cheerleader for fat, bored, rich housewives benching the pink plastic dumbells in the morning.
fixed.
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The Coach....I told you that I would be more than happy to show you how little you really know about insulin...and WHEN I do...maybe than you could attack me and others who use it....
It is pretty much the same as STEROIDS...
Usage is not the real problem - abusing it and simply NOT KNOWING what you are doing with something that potentially could be dangerous - is the real problem...
I know you want to come to Koloseum on weekend...but I haven't spent SINGLE weekend at home (and I do have a new house for more than 5 weeks now) - so maybe next weekend at Koloseum?
Milos, you cannot denie that the conditioning of today is nothing like it was in the 80's and 90's and that goes for aesthetics as well, it's much worse with too much emphasis on size...for example, you will NEVER see condintioing like this again.....
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Hey coach here you go...just don't forget while you're at the gym doing that thing you do i was sleeping and waithing for you to catch up...
Seams like i slept for nothing.
Damn dude, you're one delusional mofo, congrats, you just embarressed yourself on the biggest BBing board in the world......do us all favor and keep sleeping, maybe you can dream up something even more delusional.
How you walk with balls that big?????
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DAMMM IT!!!!! we ware all focus on Dennis wolf and Victor Martinez when we had our true Mr.O here all along.
Ho brother please spar me.yeah i can easily see that you're not on insulin(are you even on anything)
and you call yourself a BB?you need to recheck your strategy brother.
bro you must be easily the most retarded poster here at getbig... Seriously....what in the name of jesus Christ himself would you call a Bodybuilder?
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Milos, you cannot denie that the conditioning of today is nothing like it was in the 80's and 90's and that goes for aesthetics as well, it's much worse with too much emphasis on size...for example, you will NEVER see condintioing like this again.....
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/al.jpg)
OK Coach i am willing to give you a try...why don't you let us all know what's your knowledge about
insulin usage.I will will start using it next week convince me that i shouldn't do it and if you can then i wont do it...
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i don't consider my self as a bodybuilder coz i am a humble person but i do considerer myself as a man in a road to become a bodybuilder...
i have stooped training for over a year got back to the gym 4 months ago i lost 20kg and just started my off season prep...i can tell you boy i look much better then you....
just wait 2 minutes....
hahahahhaahhahahahah oh brother ::)
I say come back when you have diet down to the BF% of The Coach and we will see what is left of your "mass" ::)...shitty Steroid Carousel is what I call you ::)
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Why is everyone such a fucking asshole to Milos? Everything this guy says, someone is bound to jump down his throat and rebuff any of his advice, suggestions and or opinions...
Now I realize he is outspoken, but that certainly is his RIGHT, given that he not only IS an IFBB Pro, but also has been around in the "game" pretty much all his life... Bodybuilding is his life, he is a Pro, owns a gym where a lot of pro's train and is a trainer to many of the top pros... So? What's the deal?
I've met Milos in person and he was one of the most down to earth people...No ego and was entirely tapped in the "source"... So, really, for all the shit talkers out there, you are either oblivious to the WEALTH of knowledge you could receive from him, you are a plain and simple asshole, or you have never met Milos in person... My guess is, all 3...
FOR REAL
Oh and not for nothing, but his wife is hot as hell, maybe that is why you hate him?
everyone is an expert in bodybuilding. from the guy who signs up for his first membership to the 10th place finisher at every show to mr olympia. somehow everyone knows something someone else doesnt w/o any evidence or proof.
its no wonder you see professional bbers HIRE someone to map out their trianing... nutrition.. EVERYTHING.. YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.. with worse or same results.
Some training and help makes sense, but after 10 years as a pro... cant you sort of do your own prep? Help is fine.. but some of these guys dont know their head from their ass.
Look at king kamali, what has he gone through like 4+ different people by now? now he is with this moron disgusted(magnum) who doesnt know anything about proper insulin use.. or even what the hell glycogenesis.
People who attack guys like Milos do it because they want some sort of credit of being an expert for whatever reason or they are looking to take advantage of someones finances.
Look at what people post on here.. idiot shit like:
" Jay Cutler has the worst arms. he has no veins'
" Insulin will ruin your lines"
" muscletech bought jay cutler 1st place"
" Ha.. bodybuilders..why do they always have to lie? Like they take those supplements.. why dont they admit they are on 1 gram of test 6 iu gh and 20 iu insulin a day? Fucking liars. Makes me sick"
" Stop Snake Oiling your supplement line. We all know 80 dollars a bottle isnt reasonable for Vitargo/Waxy Maize, Amino Acids, Electrolyte." (even though if you were to buy the ingredients yourself it is only MAYBE less expensive by about 20 bucks or even less than that)
" youre not worth that much per hour"
" look a x bodybuilders car.. all flashy and shit why is trying to act like they are rich? look at x bodybuilders car.. what a piece of shit car what a fucking bum."
" Bodybuilders have no talent, theyre gay, theyre broke, theyre druggies... but I have 12thousand posts on a bodybuilding forum that celebrates bodybuilding"
" Living the dream.... what a bum.... look at him he lives in his car but he is doing what he likes to do." ( while i live with my mom and dad and post on a forum about what THEY are doing all day"
" Im a homosexual and I like bodybuilding...... ALL BODYBUILDERS AND PEOPLE INTERESTED IN IT HAVE TO BE GAY. Look see.. someone READ my gay post... they must be interesed in being gay"
" im 5ft 10 280 lbs around 10-15% bodyfat. but I dont have ANY pictures of me and ive never competed"
" I was standing in the supermarket... and this guy behind me...."( enter bullshit story)=my dick being 5 inches longer
" I was in the gym once. and this scrawny "( old man/young kid) ( enter bullshit story)= my dick being longer than my leg"
" I cant believe this piece of shit is Mr Olympia.. he looks like a blob... at 270lbs at ft 9 ripped... what an idiot he fucked himself up he should have went back to getting 12th place."
" The judging is SOOO fucked up.. yeah.. 9/10 shows judged perfect wit ONE call out not done right... EVERYTHING HAS TO BE CORRUPTED!"
etc etc. all bullshit from these people.
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everyone is an expert in bodybuilding. from the guy who signs up for his first membership to the 10th place finisher at every show to mr olympia. somehow everyone knows something someone else doesnt w/o any evidence or proof.
its no wonder you see professional bbers HIRE someone to map out their trianing... nutrition.. EVERYTHING.. YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.. with worse or same results.
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Tooooooo long bro :)
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Tooooooo long bro :)
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you have something better to do? if you are on here obviously you have the time. :)
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Damn dude, you're one delusional mofo, congrats, you just embarressed yourself on the biggest BBing board in the world......do us all favor and keep sleeping, maybe you can dream up something even more delusional.
How you walk with balls that big?????
Stark....Well for sombody that was off of the gym for over a year i am that good...why dont you do thyte same and then 1 year from now post some pics so that i can see you shity look you will have.......
have you seen this guy picture....or you are just as bad as hem and you´re trying to make yourself look good too.~
well why dont you 2 just get over with it and have a damm baby.....
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Next weekend would be fine. 1-2:00pm would work for me, I work in the morning.
I'm there: Oct 13 @ 1pm.
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I'm there: Oct 13 @ 1pm.
Take Joe for a spin on your Segway, fatass. ;D
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bro you must be easily the most retarded poster here at getbig... Seriously....what in the name of jesus Christ himself would you call a Bodybuilder?
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I don't know about you but i will call myself a bodybuilder once i get on stage and participate on a
Bodybuilding contest I'm trying to be a bodybuilder not a bodybuilder wannabee
which of of them you are.
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I'm there: Oct 13 @ 1pm.
garraeth, milos.. please tell me how this insulin discussion goes. i would love to be there.
coach im not going to insult, im just going to say please take this oppurtunity to learn something and have a very open mind.
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Take Joe for a spin on your Segway, fatass. ;D
haha, you remember that, eh?
We can scoot down to Jack in the Box for our pre and post workout meals and shakes.
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hahahahhaahhahahahah oh brother ::)
I say come back when you have diet down to the BF% of The Coach and we will see what is left of your "mass" ::)...shitty Steroid Carousel is what I call you ::)
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A i told you i was 1 year off the gym and i just got back and started a bulk season...but maybe i must take some pictures under some light as Coach did and then you can review your post.
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Milos, could you explain the purpose of using exogenous insulin as opposed to your own? If insulin is release as needed to balance blood sugar what is the point of using exogenous insulin?
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I don't know about you but i will call myself a bodybuilder once i get on stage and participate on a
Bodybuilding contest I'm trying to be a bodybuilder not a bodybuilder wannabee
which of of them you are.
So let me get this straight, unless I have competed? I cannot call myself a Bodybuilder?
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Coach i am still waithing for you insulin usage knowledge...if you have any...
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So let me get this straight, unless I have competed? I cannot call myself a Bodybuilder?
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You are correct other wise any joe with 12 inch guns could call himself one ;D . Does putting a bandaid on my cut make me a doctor?
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You are correct other wise any joe with 12 inch guns could call himself one ;D . Does putting a bandaid on my cut make me a doctor?
So i cannot play Bodybuilding anymore? :'( :'( :'(
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So let me get this straight, unless I have competed? I cannot call myself a Bodybuilder?
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OK let me make it crystal clear to you once again..
i told you that i will consider myself a bodybuilder when i step ON stage and try to get a BB title.
That was what i answered to you when you asked what was my ideal of a BB.
You are free to considerer yourself wtf you want.
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You are correct other wise any joe with 12 inch guns could call himself one ;D . Does putting a bandaid on my cut make me a doctor?
Okay, then what would you call someone who lifts weights and diets for the purpose of improving his physique and who looks like a bodybuilder, yet considers putting on a thong and standing on a stage flexing to be really ghey?
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Milos, could you explain the purpose of using exogenous insulin as opposed to your own? If insulin is release as needed to balance blood sugar what is the point of using exogenous insulin?
whats the point of using exogenous test? whats the point of using exogenous gh?
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Okay, then what would you call someone who lifts weights and diets for the purpose of improving his physique and who looks like a bodybuilder, yet considers putting on a thong and standing on a stage flexing to be really ghey?
A fitness enthusiast with blood conistency of 30% piss and 60% vinegar.
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whats the point of using exogenus test? whats the point of using exogenus gh?
Are you an idiot or did you not read the question? You use steroids because you can't produce that much testosterone. Your body from my understanding will use as much insulin as needed to balance blood sugar. So if this is the case why inject it when you can use high gi carbs?
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A fitness enthusiast with blood conistency of 30% piss and 60% vinegar.
and 10% test cyp
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Okay, then what would you call someone who lifts weights and diets for the purpose of improving his physique and who looks like a bodybuilder, yet considers putting on a thong and standing on a stage flexing to be really ghey?
man i don't know but if you want to get an answer for that you better as that person what does he considerer himself as....
I am talking in my behalf i don't know and also don't care what people think about themselves
they can even considerer themselves as being Pamela Anderson but that wont make be which for them to get down on their knees and say their prayers....
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and 10% test cyp
10% injectible semen.
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10% injectible semen.
No... that would be the "competitive bodybuilders". ;D
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Hey Coach were are you now??I cant hear you...and i am still waithing for you knowlodge about insulin usage..seams like its much more Damm easy to run your mouth and flame people about shit that you don't know and even worst don't want to learn...
you need to come out from the closet and free you mind.
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The Getbig hat trick:
1 - the "I'm not a bodybuilder so I can justify looking like shit"
2 - the "I used to weigh 300 lbs at 2% bodyfat but I stopped going to the gym for six days and now I'm 165 at 22% bodyfat"
3 - the "you wait, give me 2 weeks and I'll post pics that'll kill Ronnie Coleman"
Congratulations! You're the Wayne Gretzky of this board.
You better take a learn before you run you mouth....
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coach im not going to insult, im just going to say please take this oppurtunity to learn something and have a very open mind.
Hey, I'm very open minded and of course I'll listen and probably learn....I'm not debating on what Milos knows, he obviously knows his shit, what I'm debating is what insulin has done to the industry.....it's taken a step backwards, again, aesthetics, symmetry and ripped conditioning has been taken out the equation when it comes to judging, but when you have 90% of the competitive field using insulin, the standard basically is the same until someone comes along and changes it.
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Hey Coach were are you now??I cant hear you...
Im at work..is that Ok with you?
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Usage is not the real problem - abusing it and simply NOT KNOWING what you are doing with something that potentially could be dangerous - is the real problem...
I agree with that 100%
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Are you an idiot or did you not read the question? You use steroids because you can't produce that much testosterone. Your body from my understanding will use as much insulin as needed to balance blood sugar. So if this is the case why inject it when you can use high gi carbs?
and ur calling me the idiot. go look it up instead of repeatedly asking the question that no one will answer because if you did one ounce of research you would understand why.
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OK let me make it crystal clear to you once again..
i told you that i will consider myself a bodybuilder when i step ON stage and try to get a BB title.
That was what i answered to you when you asked what was my ideal of a BB.
You are free to considerer yourself wtf you want.
Calm down Gloria
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The Coach....I told you that I would be more than happy to show you how little you really know about insulin...and WHEN I do...maybe than you could attack me and others who use it....
It is pretty much the same as STEROIDS...
Usage is not the real problem - abusing it and simply NOT KNOWING what you are doing with something that potentially could be dangerous - is the real problem...
I know you want to come to Koloseum on weekend...but I haven't spent SINGLE weekend at home (and I do have a new house for more than 5 weeks now) - so maybe next weekend at Koloseum?
You don't live in Temecula anymore?
We used to be neighbors
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Then go ahead and post some pictures of yours so that we can all see you non-insulin BB Body.
you haven't been around for long, have you? now stfu
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and ur calling me the idiot. go look it up instead of repeatedly asking the question that no one will answer because if you did one ounce of research you would understand why.
Wow.. you are using your head today aren't you hahahah. Do you honestly think they are going to test humans to see if insulin is anabolic. Think about it. What normal person would inject something into them that could possibly kill them.
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Wow.. you are using your head today aren't you hahahah. Do you honestly think they are going to test humans to see if insulin is anabolic. Think about it. What normal person would inject something into them that could possibly kill them.
god do you know how to use google? just stop talking about this subject until you read about it for 24hrs then come back and post.
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yes, that pic of 22 years ago is what I call a bodybuilder, far superior to the blobs of mass you find at today's top amateur shows.
Seriously Tim, coming from you that means alot, thank you!
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Take Joe for a spin on your Segway, fatass. ;D
WTF are you talking about??
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I think Milos is right on a lot of things: Such as his critisism of IFBB politics and judging. The interview he did at the Expo was awesome.
I also disagree with him on some issues: He's never been able to explain why the amino acids in his products are better than other, cheaper brands.
Finally, I would like to hear Milos' version on the Tim Montgomery steroid affair. He trained Montgomery, and it would be interesting to know how much Milos was aware of.
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I think Milos is right on a lot of things: Such as his critisism of IFBB politics and judging. The interview he did at the Expo was awesome.
I also disagree with him on some issues: He's never been able to explain why the amino acids in his products are better than other, cheaper brands.
Finally, I would like to hear Milos' version on the Tim Montgomery steroid affair. He trained Montgomery, and it would be interesting to know how much Milos was aware of.
Victor Conte probably knows more about his drug regimine than Milos. Milos is just a trainer. Training is pretty much the same off or on drugs.
Ajinomotto supplies for more than 60% of the global market for amino acids for a reason. They are not HIS amino acids, he gets them from Ajinomotto and he decided they were the best quality. For whatever reason they supply most of the global market for amino acids with their products.. they are pharmaceutical grade aminos.
So MIlos is buying those aminos and they are not cheaper for him, they would cost the MOST out of any amino acids he can buy and then that translates to his product price.
If he was using twinlabs aminos and then bumping up the price, it would be snake oiling it, but he is using quality aminos that cost money.
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Victor Conte probably knows more about his drug regimine than Milos. Milos is just a trainer. Training is pretty much the same off or on drugs.
Ajinomotto supplies for more than 60% of the global market for amino acids for a reason. They are not HIS amino acids, he gets them from Ajinomotto and he decided they were the best quality. For whatever reason they supply most of the global market for amino acids with their products.. they are pharmaceutical grade aminos.
So MIlos is buying those aminos and they are not cheaper for him, they would cost the MOST out of any amino acids he can buy and then that translates to his product price.
If he was using twinlabs aminos and then bumping up the price, it would be snake oiling it, but he is using quality aminos that cost money.
The real question is have you finally come to your senses and gotten off the 100 units of slin per day regime.
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The real question is have you finally come to your senses and gotten off the 100 units of slin per day regime.
Its really sad that you have to MAKE STUFF UP all the time bro. If you spent as much time learning as you do pretending and creating stories you would be much better off.
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Its really sad that you have to MAKE STUFF UP all the time bro. If you spent as much time learning as you do pretending and creating stories you would be much better off.
I tawy. :'(
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I tawy. :'(
Disgusted, please explain to me insulin ;D
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Disgusted, please explain to me insulin ;D
People take it to counteract the effects glypolosis on the beta 3 receptors which specifically come into play during stressfull exercise, but only on fast twitch muscle.
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Wow.. you are using your head today aren't you hahahah. Do you honestly think they are going to test humans to see if insulin is anabolic. Think about it. What normal person would inject something into them that could possibly kill them.
They have in fact tested this. It is NOT anabolic at physiological concentrations or any concentrations you could achieve by injecting insulin (without dying). At several thousand times the physiological concentration it's anabolic, presumably by activating igf-1 receptors. This is not relevant to us since this can not be achieved.
Insulin is anti-proteolytic ("anti-catabolic").
I don't see any physiological reason why injectable insulin, in the doses most use it at (which are very physiological doses, not supraphysiological), would ruin a physique any more than eating a high carb diet.
If guys are coming in too smooth I think it's simply because they don't want to sacrifice size for cuts, not the insulin per se.
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People take it to counteract the effects glypolosis on the beta 3 receptors which specifically come into play during stressfull exercise, but only on fast twitch muscle.
Ahhh intresting point... so this is why milos emphasizes the high rep stuff? What is the benefit of taking it as opposed to using your own though?
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They have in fact tested this. It is NOT anabolic at physiological concentrations or any concentrations you could achieve by injecting insulin (without dying). At several thousand times the physiological concentration it's anabolic, presumably by activating igf-1 receptors. This is not relevant to us since this can not be achieved.
Insulin is anti-proteolytic ("anti-catabolic").
I don't see any physiological reason why injectable insulin, in the doses most use it at (which are very physiological doses, not supraphysiological), would ruin a physique any more than eating a high carb diet.
If guys are coming in too smooth I think it's simply because they don't want to sacrifice size for cuts, not the insulin per se.
I think that there is more going on than it just being anti-catabolic. You can only stop the catabolic process and go no further and I would not assume that if you did you would have unlimited growth, but there seems to be "almost" no limit as to how you can stimulate you muscles anabolically. I am sure, although not well versed that there are many different examples as to how your body can become catabolic. Would there be different drugs to deal with each process?
Years ago there seemed to be a bunch of hoopla going round about steroids not really being anabolic but anti-catabolic. I personally don't think so and I don't really put any merit into this way of thinking as far as growing muscle.
I have seen many people develope huge guts similar to those who take insulin while never taking it, but eating a diet very high in carbs. We obviously don't get the same effect as far as musle growth from just carbs alone as to when we take unsulin with it, but again we do see the same type of visceral fat storage with a diet very high in carbs for long periods of time. As far as using it for a contst as opposed to offseason I think that you are just fighting the fat loos process needlessly since insulin promotes the stoage of fat.
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Ahhh intresting point... so this is why milos emphasizes the high rep stuff? What is the benefit of taking it as opposed to using your own though?
I was just messing with that post, but you ask a very good question. The benefit in simple terms is that you grow larger muscles. There is no denying that it works and is taking a lot of guys to new levels of size if that is the look that you want to achieve. As I said before you may be OK in using it in the offseason at a low bodyfat level, but I personally do not like it to carb up on.
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hows tamali doing?
I was just messing with that post, but you ask a very good question. The benefit in simple terms is that you grow larger muscles. There is no denying that it works and is taking a lot of guys to new levels of size if that is the look that you want to achieve. As I said before you may be OK in using it in the offseason at a low bodyfat level, but I personally do not like it to carb up on.
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hows tamali doing?
Hi sean ;)
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Victor Conte probably knows more about his drug regimine than Milos. Milos is just a trainer. Training is pretty much the same off or on drugs.
Ajinomotto supplies for more than 60% of the global market for amino acids for a reason. They are not HIS amino acids, he gets them from Ajinomotto and he decided they were the best quality. For whatever reason they supply most of the global market for amino acids with their products.. they are pharmaceutical grade aminos.
So MIlos is buying those aminos and they are not cheaper for him, they would cost the MOST out of any amino acids he can buy and then that translates to his product price.
If he was using twinlabs aminos and then bumping up the price, it would be snake oiling it, but he is using quality aminos that cost money.
I know he is using Ajinomotto amino acids. I also know they're pharmaceutical grade.
I would like to know why he thinks those are better than cheaper amino acids.
He once answered me something along: "You don't put cheap gas in an expensive car".
But never a real explanation.
As far as your claim that training is the same whether on or off drugs: Show me one natural lifter who could get good results from following Ronnie Coleman's routine to the letter.
I'm not talking about poundages, but percentages.
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Hi sean ;)
Does Shawn have another gimmick besides Hank and Sgt d?
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Does Shawn have another gimmick besides Hank and Sgt d?
U tell me :D
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Shawn is the biggest MIlos Lee Priest hater on this Board, Why ? Because he is now the Weider boy.
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you haven't been around for long, have you? now stfu
So whats about it and with the retarded humor??Who are you just Rosie O'Donnell all of a sudden,triple_pickle?
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Calm down Gloria
(http://www.goddudes.com/1.gif)
I am calm Bob.
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So whats about it and with the retarded humor??Who are you just Rosie O'Donnell all of a sudden,triple_pickle?
Rosie O'Donnell isn't funny, she's a communist and should executed for treason.........
HOPE THIS HELPS
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Rosie O'Donnell isn't funny, she's a communist and should executed for treason.........
HOPE THIS HELPS
Serious question here. Why are conservatives so emotional and base all arguments on emotion?
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Serious question here. Why are conservatives so emotional and base all arguments on emotion?
We don't, we base it on fact, you can argue that she treasonist, but her actions show otherwise.
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We don't, we base it on fact, you can argue that she treasonist, but her actions show otherwise.
you should be arrested for doing illegal drugs
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you should be arrested for doing illegal drugs
hahahahha pwned!!!!
one could argue doing illegal drugs supplies terrorists that in turn would be treason, right Coach? :)
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We don't, we base it on fact, you can argue that she treasonist, but her actions show otherwise.
I notice alot of republicans have alot of traits in common. They always are very violent in arguments. They always get red faced and explode when they are proven wrong.... just an observation.
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you should be arrested for doing illegal drugs
Why? Nothing I have done or used has been illegal, all legit and prescribed!
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hahahahha pwned!!!!
one could argue doing illegal drugs supplies terrorists that in turn would be treason, right Coach? :)
haha The Coach and OJ Simpson laws don't apply to them!
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haha The Coach and OJ Simpson laws don't apply to them!
haha, again nothing illegal....I'm not an idiot, I would have too much to lose!
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coach be a wise man and STFU about the process
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coach be a wise man and STFU about the process
What "process"? I have nothing to hide.
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coach be a wise man and STFU about the process
you would think :-\
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haha, again nothing illegal....I'm not an idiot, I would have too much to lose!
Are you saying you are on HRT?
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Are you saying you are on HRT?
Dude said he was on d-bol a couple of weeks ago. D-bol is NOT a prescription drug in the USA!
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Dude said he was on d-bol a couple of weeks ago. D-bol is NOT a prescription drug in the USA!
Okay ::)
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Okay ::)
Honestly what doctor would prescribe dbol. It is liver toxic and you lose the gains as quick as you get them.
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DAMMM IT!!!!! we ware all focus on Dennis wolf and Victor Martinez when we had our true Mr.O here all along.
Ho brother please spar me.yeah i can easily see that you're not on insulin(are you even on anything)
and you call yourself a BB?you need to recheck your strategy brother.
I don't know nor care about insulin quite frankly, but am poking my nose in here as IMO it really is hard to deny that Coach looks really good in this pic. I am not trying to say he looks perfect, but to say 'you call yourself a bb' is just flaming, in fact most the general public would think he looks far better than certain top bloated gut mass monster pros. I personally think he looks great...
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/Joe_Marino_28129.jpg)
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I don't know nor care about insulin quite frankly, but am poking my nose in here as IMO it really is hard to deny that Coach looks really good in this pic. I am not trying to say he looks perfect, but to say 'you call yourself a bb' is just flaming, in fact most the general public would think he looks far better than certain top bloated gut mass monster pros. I personally think he looks great...
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/Joe_Marino_28129.jpg)
that's he LOOKED great, it was 30 years ago :)
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Honestly what doctor would prescribe dbol. It is liver toxic and you lose the gains as quick as you get them.
That's NOT the reason a doctor would not prescribe it. Dbol is not very liver toxic anyway. The reason a doctor would not prescribe it is because it's not an approved med anymore. It's not in the PDR. There is no pharma dbol in any pharmacy in the US. Dbol was thought of as a purely performance enhancing drug so it was removed a looong time ago.
Dbol is called the breakfast of champions for a reason. It's a wonderful drug.
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Okay ::)
I know you are covering your ass but since you put it online I think it's fair game for me to point out.
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Seriously Tim, coming from you that means alot, thank you!
me? a bleeding heart liberal?
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Usage is not the real problem - abusing it and simply NOT KNOWING what you are doing with something that potentially could be dangerous - is the real problem...
can you point out anyone who has used insulin with GH for any length of time and was able to retain a tiny waist or any sense of symmetry and proportionality ? For example 山岸秀匡 (http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Yamagishi,+Hidetada) circa 2002 had a tiny waist and had lots of symmetry. Today not so much.
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me? a bleeding heart liberal?
...all politics aside of course ;)!!
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I don't know nor care about insulin quite frankly, but am poking my nose in here as IMO it really is hard to deny that Coach looks really good in this pic. I am not trying to say he looks perfect, but to say 'you call yourself a bb' is just flaming, in fact most the general public would think he looks far better than certain top bloated gut mass monster pros. I personally think he looks great...
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/Joe_Marino_28129.jpg)
I don't know if you got the picture bro but i was talking about the recent pic not that one...
if i am not mistaken its 30 years old or something...he does look "ok" in that old one.
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for example, you will NEVER see conditioning like this again.....
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/al.jpg)
As you will never see a "conditioning" like that win a Mr. Olympia for example...
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Rosie O'Donnell isn't funny, she's a communist and should executed for treason.........
HOPE THIS HELPS
Some more info for your "lets kill some communist" list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_O'Donnell
She seams pretty much funny to me...
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As you will never see a "conditioning" like that win an Mr. Olympia for example...
god all these midgets
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As you will never see a "conditioning" like that win a Mr. Olympia for example...
No shit, Jay aleady proved that!
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I don't know if you got the picture bro but i was talking about the recent pic not that one...
if i am not mistaken its 30 years old or something...he does look "ok" in that old one.
Yes that's right, I was 15 in that pic ::). I swear you newbe's to BBing think you just know it all!!
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we do...now DEAL with it! :)
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we do...now DEAL with it! :)
You're not a newbe.......your old like me :P
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everyone is an expert in bodybuilding. from the guy who signs up for his first membership to the 10th place finisher at every show to mr olympia. somehow everyone knows something someone else doesnt w/o any evidence or proof.
its no wonder you see professional bbers HIRE someone to map out their trianing... nutrition.. EVERYTHING.. YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.. with worse or same results.
Some training and help makes sense, but after 10 years as a pro... cant you sort of do your own prep? Help is fine.. but some of these guys dont know their head from their ass.
Look at king kamali, what has he gone through like 4+ different people by now? now he is with this moron disgusted(magnum) who doesnt know anything about proper insulin use.. or even what the hell glycogenesis.
People who attack guys like Milos do it because they want some sort of credit of being an expert for whatever reason or they are looking to take advantage of someones finances.
Look at what people post on here.. idiot shit like:
" Jay Cutler has the worst arms. he has no veins'
" Insulin will ruin your lines"
" muscletech bought jay cutler 1st place"
" Ha.. bodybuilders..why do they always have to lie? Like they take those supplements.. why dont they admit they are on 1 gram of test 6 iu gh and 20 iu insulin a day? Fucking liars. Makes me sick"
" Stop Snake Oiling your supplement line. We all know 80 dollars a bottle isnt reasonable for Vitargo/Waxy Maize, Amino Acids, Electrolyte." (even though if you were to buy the ingredients yourself it is only MAYBE less expensive by about 20 bucks or even less than that)
" youre not worth that much per hour"
" look a x bodybuilders car.. all flashy and shit why is trying to act like they are rich? look at x bodybuilders car.. what a piece of shit car what a fucking bum."
" Bodybuilders have no talent, theyre gay, theyre broke, theyre druggies... but I have 12thousand posts on a bodybuilding forum that celebrates bodybuilding"
" Living the dream.... what a bum.... look at him he lives in his car but he is doing what he likes to do." ( while i live with my mom and dad and post on a forum about what THEY are doing all day"
" Im a homosexual and I like bodybuilding...... ALL BODYBUILDERS AND PEOPLE INTERESTED IN IT HAVE TO BE GAY. Look see.. someone READ my gay post... they must be interesed in being gay"
" im 5ft 10 280 lbs around 10-15% bodyfat. but I dont have ANY pictures of me and ive never competed"
" I was standing in the supermarket... and this guy behind me...."( enter bullshit story)=my dick being 5 inches longer
" I was in the gym once. and this scrawny "( old man/young kid) ( enter bullshit story)= my dick being longer than my leg"
" I cant believe this piece of shit is Mr Olympia.. he looks like a blob... at 270lbs at ft 9 ripped... what an idiot he fucked himself up he should have went back to getting 12th place."
" The judging is SOOO fucked up.. yeah.. 9/10 shows judged perfect wit ONE call out not done right... EVERYTHING HAS TO BE CORRUPTED!"
etc etc. all bullshit from these people.
epic spending 30 minutes to type one post
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"Frank T" is getting absolutely shitcanned by Coach in this thread. ;D
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epic spending 30 minutes to type one post
Maybe he should change his name to "Captain Meth" :)
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Maybe he should change his name to "Captain Meth" :)
Why pay any attention to these dogshit noobs? Maybe up the carbs a little? ;D
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I don't know if you got the picture bro but i was talking about the recent pic not that one...
if i am not mistaken its 30 years old or something...he does look "ok" in that old one.
Oh brother, I thought the gender confusion days had ended by now ;D
Coach will look good in his upcoming show too I am sure. The other pic he posted was 9 weeks out, not competition shape.
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Why pay any attention to these dogshit noobs? Maybe up the carbs a little? ;D
I did, I had a cheat day (well, just carbs) today.
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I did, I had a cheat day (well, just carbs) today.
you dont purchase carbs from dave palumbo, do you? just asking :D
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you dont purchase carbs from dave palumbo, do you? just asking :D
Huh?
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Huh?
Don't mind "haider". Half of what this clown says makes no sense. Pakis aren't known for being bright.
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Huh?
nevermind (come on, dave plaumbo?). And don't mind this "panda" guy either, he's my getbig stalker and quite the aryan musclebear :D
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nevermind (come on, dave plaumbo?). And don't mind this "panda" guy either, he's my getbig stalker and quite the aryan musclebear :D
Your killing me right now.....what the hell are you talking about? Maybe I'm just having a carb high and it's not registering :(
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you fucking idiots, dave plaumbo is known for selling fake shit :D
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you fucking idiots, dave plaumbo is known for selling fake shit :D
AAaaahhhhh......I get it now :D
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you should get some gh from him coach. haha.
do you prefer it to be an arrowhead kit or a dasani?
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you should get some gh from him coach. haha.
do you prefer it to be an arrowhead kit or a dasani?
Did you start your prep yet, you've got 7 1/2 weeks to beat me and prove yourself. Just use some "slin" I'm sure you'll get right into shape.
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Did you start your prep yet, you've got 7 1/2 weeks to beat me and prove yourself. Just use some "slin" I'm sure you'll get right into shape.
I havent competed since 2005 my friend im not going to jump into a contest because of an internet challenge haha.
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I havent competed since 2005 my friend im not going to jump into a contest because of an internet challenge haha.
Then I guess you should open your big mouth then unless you're willing to back it up.
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Then I guess you should open your big mouth then unless you're willing to back it up.
are you sure you didn't low carb today, Coach ;D
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Then I guess you should open your big mouth then unless you're willing to back it up.
wth are you talking about? why do i have a big mouth all of a sudden? you need chill man that diet is gettin to u haha
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are you sure you didn't low carb today, Coach ;D
I've got carb buzz and I'm sweating like a pig right now :D
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wth are you talking about? why do i have a big mouth all of a sudden? you need chill man that diet is gettin to u haha
Sorry, I take that back :(
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Sorry, I take that back :(
its all good man no problems.
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Sorry, I take that back :(
apologies are for pussies, take that back >:(
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apologies are for pussies, take that back >:(
this is where the carbs kick in.. DAMN IT! >:(
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this is where the carbs kick in.. DAMN IT! >:(
yeah, man up....... >:(
at the very least delete the "sorry" part and claim someone modified it ;)
Sorry, I take that back :(
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truly thats the gayest shit I've ever seen coming from joe
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its all good man no problems.
How is your diabetes these days?
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How is your diabetes these days?
he has it all under control with 100iu's a day, he appreciates your concern ;D
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Yes that's right, I was 15 in that pic ::). I swear you newbe's to BBing think you just know it all!!
well i don't know if you considerer my 26 years old as a newbe but you do remind me those old pop's from my gym that are still competing for over 20 years and just look as bad as they looked when they first started...reason:
very close minded and doing same shit today they ware doing 20 years ago don't have the capacity to evolute and even worst don't have the humility to hear what other have to say either if they are younger or older...
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No shit, Jay aleady proved that!
Jay has got nothing to do with phisics..its all about politics his condition would never win the Olympia if it was not for Muscletech..
i have been through this already...
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Oh brother, I thought the gender confusion days had ended by now ;D
Coach will look good in his upcoming show too I am sure. The other pic he posted was 9 weeks out, not competition shape.
Well i don't know whats his aspirations as a "BB" and the quality level of this show he is going to participate but 1 have only 2 things to say about that.
1.for only 9 weeks out he dont look good
2.He will not look good for the show...maybe he will look "ok" but not good
Look at this guy here he participated in a BB constest i organised with few more people and he also claims to be a BB....
off course he is free to considerer himself as we want...
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You're not a newbe.......your old like me :P
ha almost but not quite :D
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Why is everyone such a fucking asshole to Milos? Everything this guy says, someone is bound to jump down his throat and rebuff any of his advice, suggestions and or opinions...
Now I realize he is outspoken, but that certainly is his RIGHT, given that he not only IS an IFBB Pro, but also has been around in the "game" pretty much all his life... Bodybuilding is his life, he is a Pro, owns a gym where a lot of pro's train and is a trainer to many of the top pros... So? What's the deal?
I've met Milos in person and he was one of the most down to earth people...No ego and was entirely tapped in the "source"... So, really, for all the shit talkers out there, you are either oblivious to the WEALTH of knowledge you could receive from him, you are a plain and simple asshole, or you have never met Milos in person... My guess is, all 3...
FOR REAL
Oh and not for nothing, but his wife is hot as hell, maybe that is why you hate him?
he spreads alot of pseudo bs about training and nutrition. (inner chest, eating 500g of protein per day, useless supplements etc etc)
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This is the winner and i think he looks "good"
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Hey coach...
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=173970.0
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Hey coach...
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=173970.0
What?
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What?
Are you both going to the same contest ???
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Are you both going to the same contest ???
No....I'm doing the MASTERS Nationals next July. That kids about 20 years younger than me.
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No....I'm doing the MASTERS Nationals next July. That kids about 20 years younger than me.
thats what i tough but you can see the difference between his 7 weeks and your 9 weeks out...
but i wont flame you no more i replayed to this post and your openion on insulin usage and Milos methods so i will just do my prep and then
we will see if insulin usage its that bad as you say.
i am leaving something for you here very educational i think,about steroids and hormones....
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Milos is a smart ass himself, its not like he doesnt shit on people sometimes too.
100% RIGHT
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Then I guess you should open your big mouth then unless you're willing to back it up.
:D excellent point. Also the frank t clown here should just crawl under a rock. Coach looks superb in those pics and I'm positive he'll present a better package come showtime. He works with one of the best nutritionists in the biz IMO and I'd give anything to have the whole process ( dieting that is ) explained to me. I'm a big fan of Jim's methods.
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thats what i tough but you can see the difference between his 7 weeks and your 9 weeks out...
but i wont flame you no more i replayed to this post and your openion on insulin usage and Milos methods so i will just do my prep and then
we will see if insulin usage its that bad as you say.
i am leaving something for you here very educational i think,about steroids and hormones....
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THIS EXACT POST SHOWS HOW LITTLE OR NADA U KNOW ABOUT DIETING FOR A SHOW. U SHOULD QUIT YOUR REMARKS BECAUSE U ARE NOT IN THE KNOW. HOPE THIS HELPS.
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THIS EXACT POST SHOWS HOW LITTLE OR NADA U KNOW ABOUT DIETING FOR A SHOW. U SHOULD QUIT YOUR REMARKS BECAUSE U ARE NOT IN THE KNOW. HOPE THIS HELPS.
HOMBRE THAT POST OF YOUR SHOWS HOW YOU MUST PAY ATENTION BEFORE YOU RUN YOUR MOUTH...
THIS TOPIC IS ABOUT MILOS SARCEV WAY OF STEROIDS USAGE NOBODY IS ARGUYIN ABOUT SUPLEMNETS OR DIETING SO STICK YOUR FOOT ON YOUR MOUTH AND PAY SOME MORE ATENTION.
THIS IS A 7 PAGES TOPIC ALREADY YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND READ THEM ALL...IF YOU CAN
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:D excellent point. Also the frank t clown here should just crawl under a rock. Coach looks superb in those pics and I'm positive he'll present a better package come showtime. He works with one of the best nutritionists in the biz IMO and I'd give anything to have the whole process ( dieting that is ) explained to me. I'm a big fan of Jim's methods.
Seams like you also need to go to the learning tree before you come out here and run your mouth....as i said before,in that 30 years old pic he looks "ok"
in that 9 weeks pic he don't...or maybe i just need to see the quality level of this show he is going to participate...
all the other stuff you wrote is nothing but monkey crap so i will not replay to that.
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DOESN'T MATTER HOW HE LOOKS 9 WEEKS OUT...MATTERS HOW HE LOOKS ON STAGE. HE IS MORE THAN FINE. I STICK TO MY PREVIOUS STATEMENT AND TO ILLUSTRATE MY POINT HERE'S ME BEFAORE AND AFTER 3 1/2 WEEKS OF DIETING :
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OR BEFORE AND AFTER 8 WEEKS OF DIETING :
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DOESN'T MATTER HOW HE LOOKS 9 WEEKS OUT...MATTERS HOW HE LOOKS ON STAGE. HE IS MORE THAN FINE. I STICK TO MY PREVIOUS STATEMENT AND TO ILLUSTRATE MY POINT HERE'S ME BEFAORE AND AFTER 3 1/2 WEEKS OF DIETING :
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That looks like your dad looking for u to pop out :D
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That looks like your dad looking for u to pop out :D
i think you had enough said to you already here:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=173677.0
just so you know i am going to follow a advise and i wont replay to u no more...
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100% RIGHT
Leave now..
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thats what i tough but you can see the difference between his 7 weeks and your 9 weeks out...
but i wont flame you no more i replayed to this post and your openion on insulin usage and Milos methods so i will just do my prep and then
we will see if insulin usage its that bad as you say.
i am leaving something for you here very educational i think,about steroids and hormones....
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Thanks for those clips. Now let me give you some real research with real case studies. I also have case studies from JAMA, you can find them yourself if your will to pay a couple of hundred dollars for the subscription..
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/533461
I have learned in the past (about 20 years ago) that authors on BBing sites just mainly print the positives for obvious reasons, I prefer to come to my own conclusions by studying research from actual scientists and doctors who do actual case studies....I don't go by here say or what some 'guru" said. Those clips are nothing new.
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Thanks for those clips. Now let me give you some real research with real case studies. I also have case studies from JAMA, you can find them yourself if your will to pay a couple of hundred dollars for the subscription..
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/533461
I have learned in the past (about 20 years ago) that authors on BBing sites just mainly print the positives for obvious reasons, I prefer to come to my own conclusions by studying research from actual scientists and doctors who do actual case studies....I don't go by here say or what some 'guru" said. Those clips are nothing new.
ha, he also believes in Noah's Ark so please take that into consideration when he states he doesn't believe in hear say LOL
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Thanks for those clips. Now let me give you some real research with real case studies. I also have case studies from JAMA, you can find them yourself if your will to pay a couple of hundred dollars for the subscription..
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/533461
I have learned in the past (about 20 years ago) that authors on BBing sites just mainly print the positives for obvious reasons, I prefer to come to my own conclusions by studying research from actual scientists and doctors who do actual case studies....I don't go by here say or what some 'guru" said. Those clips are nothing new.
من هنا يأتي الدور الأساسي للتوعية في القضاء على هذه الظاهرة السلبية، هذا الدور الذي يجب أن تتحمله المدرسة والبيت على حد سواء.
من ذلك مثلاً إفهام النشء أن الرغبة في إثبات الذات أمر محمود ومرغوب، ولكنه لا ينبغي أن يتم إلا على الوجه الصحيح سواء في المدرسة من خلال التفوق والحصول على أعلى الدرجات، أو في المنزل عن طريق طاعة الوالدين والأخلاق الحميدة، أو في الحي من خلال الأدب مع الآخرين أو تقديم المساعدة لمن يحتاج إليها، وما إلى ذلك من السلوكيات الحضارية.
الشباب والفراغ
أحد أهم وسائل التوعية الأخرى تكمن في مساعدة الشباب من أجل قضاء أوقات فراغهم بما يفيد الجميع، وتنبيههم بأن رفقاء السوء لن يأتي من ورائهم إلا كل ضار وخطير، فضلاً عن تعليم هؤلاء الشباب الوسائل الراقية في التعبير عن تأييد فريق رياضي معين في الوقت نفسه الذي يساء فيه إلى الآخرين.
ومن المؤكد أن علاج مثل هذه الظاهرة السلبية وغيرها من الظواهر المشابهة يبدأ من المنزل، فالأبوان والأخوة الكبار تقع عليهم مسؤولية أساسية في لفت انتباه الصغار للآثار السلبية المتعددة التي ليس أقلها التسبب في أذى الآخرين. وللمدرس دور مهم أيضاً ومكمل لدور الأسرة، ثم يأتي المجتمع الصغير «الحي» وعلى رأسه المساجد لما لها من تأثير عظيم في توجيه المجتمع نحو كل ما هو صالح ومفيد، وتجنيبهم كل خبيث من قول أو عمل.
وأنا اجزم أنه لو تحدث إمام مسجد في يوم جمعة مرة واحدة فقط في هذه النقطة لن يجرؤ طفل أن يحمل الـ " بخاخ " ليفرغ بغضه او فرحه في جدران الآخرين بل سيحاولون إبتكار طريقة جديدة للـتعبير ... ;D
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من هنا يأتي الدور الأساسي للتوعية في القضاء على هذه الظاهرة السلبية، هذا الدور الذي يجب أن تتحمله المدرسة والبيت على حد سواء.
من ذلك مثلاً إفهام النشء أن الرغبة في إثبات الذات أمر محمود ومرغوب، ولكنه لا ينبغي أن يتم إلا على الوجه الصحيح سواء في المدرسة من خلال التفوق والحصول على أعلى الدرجات، أو في المنزل عن طريق طاعة الوالدين والأخلاق الحميدة، أو في الحي من خلال الأدب مع الآخرين أو تقديم المساعدة لمن يحتاج إليها، وما إلى ذلك من السلوكيات الحضارية.
الشباب والفراغ
أحد أهم وسائل التوعية الأخرى تكمن في مساعدة الشباب من أجل قضاء أوقات فراغهم بما يفيد الجميع، وتنبيههم بأن رفقاء السوء لن يأتي من ورائهم إلا كل ضار وخطير، فضلاً عن تعليم هؤلاء الشباب الوسائل الراقية في التعبير عن تأييد فريق رياضي معين في الوقت نفسه الذي يساء فيه إلى الآخرين.
ومن المؤكد أن علاج مثل هذه الظاهرة السلبية وغيرها من الظواهر المشابهة يبدأ من المنزل، فالأبوان والأخوة الكبار تقع عليهم مسؤولية أساسية في لفت انتباه الصغار للآثار السلبية المتعددة التي ليس أقلها التسبب في أذى الآخرين. وللمدرس دور مهم أيضاً ومكمل لدور الأسرة، ثم يأتي المجتمع الصغير «الحي» وعلى رأسه المساجد لما لها من تأثير عظيم في توجيه المجتمع نحو كل ما هو صالح ومفيد، وتجنيبهم كل خبيث من قول أو عمل.
وأنا اجزم أنه لو تحدث إمام مسجد في يوم جمعة مرة واحدة فقط في هذه النقطة لن يجرؤ طفل أن يحمل الـ " بخاخ " ليفرغ بغضه او فرحه في جدران الآخرين بل سيحاولون إبتكار طريقة جديدة للـتعبير ... ;D
You're not going to blow me up with a bomb strapped to you are you :-X?
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You're not going to blow me up with a bomb strapped to you are you :-X?
Just more liberal propaganda
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THAT WAS NOT COOL THE COACH!!!!! >:(
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oh The Coach, he's SO law and order ::)
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Thanks for those clips. Now let me give you some real research with real case studies. I also have case studies from JAMA, you can find them yourself if your will to pay a couple of hundred dollars for the subscription..
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/533461
I have learned in the past (about 20 years ago) that authors on BBing sites just mainly print the positives for obvious reasons, I prefer to come to my own conclusions by studying research from actual scientists and doctors who do actual case studies....I don't go by here say or what some 'guru" said. Those clips are nothing new.
Coach the way i see it you just talk talk talk talk talk and you say nothing...
or maybe i am just to ignorant to understand your Theory of conspiracy.
We juts came from the Milos Flaming then your diet expertise then you turned to Rosie O'Donnell with all that Treasons & Executions crap and now he have a Theory of conspiracy??
Were are you leading us to??are you in some propaganda program or something like that?
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من هنا يأتي الدور الأساسي للتوعية في القضاء على هذه الظاهرة السلبية، هذا الدور الذي يجب أن تتحمله المدرسة والبيت على حد سواء.
من ذلك مثلاً إفهام النشء أن الرغبة في إثبات الذات أمر محمود ومرغوب، ولكنه لا ينبغي أن يتم إلا على الوجه الصحيح سواء في المدرسة من خلال التفوق والحصول على أعلى الدرجات، أو في المنزل عن طريق طاعة الوالدين والأخلاق الحميدة، أو في الحي من خلال الأدب مع الآخرين أو تقديم المساعدة لمن يحتاج إليها، وما إلى ذلك من السلوكيات الحضارية.
الشباب والفراغ
أحد أهم وسائل التوعية الأخرى تكمن في مساعدة الشباب من أجل قضاء أوقات فراغهم بما يفيد الجميع، وتنبيههم بأن رفقاء السوء لن يأتي من ورائهم إلا كل ضار وخطير، فضلاً عن تعليم هؤلاء الشباب الوسائل الراقية في التعبير عن تأييد فريق رياضي معين في الوقت نفسه الذي يساء فيه إلى الآخرين.
ومن المؤكد أن علاج مثل هذه الظاهرة السلبية وغيرها من الظواهر المشابهة يبدأ من المنزل، فالأبوان والأخوة الكبار تقع عليهم مسؤولية أساسية في لفت انتباه الصغار للآثار السلبية المتعددة التي ليس أقلها التسبب في أذى الآخرين. وللمدرس دور مهم أيضاً ومكمل لدور الأسرة، ثم يأتي المجتمع الصغير «الحي» وعلى رأسه المساجد لما لها من تأثير عظيم في توجيه المجتمع نحو كل ما هو صالح ومفيد، وتجنيبهم كل خبيث من قول أو عمل.
وأنا اجزم أنه لو تحدث إمام مسجد في يوم جمعة مرة واحدة فقط في هذه النقطة لن يجرؤ طفل أن يحمل الـ " بخاخ " ليفرغ بغضه او فرحه في جدران الآخرين بل سيحاولون إبتكار طريقة جديدة للـتعبير ... ;D
LOLOL that was some funny Sh*t
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You're not going to blow me up with a bomb strapped to you are you :-X?
hahahahah "haider" has been threatening to blow himself up for weeks, he doesn't have the intestinal fortitude....... :)
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Just more liberal propaganda
So you're saying they don't really blow themselves up?
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So you're saying they don't really blow themselves up?
Im saying Dick Cheney has a remote control missile system that he plays with in his spare time.
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Im saying Dick Cheney has a remote control missile system that he plays with in his spare time.
hahhaha, no Im sure "The Coach" takes care of all the "remote controlling" on cheney's part.
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So Coach, you getting pretty excited about our new plans to invade Iran?
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This was taken 1 1/2 weeks ago, 9 weeks out from my first show in 17 years, I'm 45
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0130.jpg)
This was 22 years ago.....
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/Joe_Marino_28129.jpg)
Nice physique man!!! Best of luck on your next one!