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Title: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: musclecenter on October 14, 2007, 02:35:15 AM
According to Arizona Daily Star Oct 14 :http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/news/206177.php (http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/news/206177.php)

 Hawaii bodybuilder trains on egg whites, not drugs
HONOLULU (AP) — Chris Faildo, who began lifting weights as a teenager, says it has taken him a bit longer — 26 years — to reach the pinnacle of his amateur bodybuilding career because he has avoided the drugs that are pervasive in the sport.
Instead, he does about two dozen egg whites a day and lots of protein shakes.
The 41-year-old Honolulu resident is captain of the six-member United States team that will compete in the World Amateur Championships in Jeju, South Korea, on Oct. 27-28. All six were the weight division winners at the U.S. qualifier in New York City in July. Faildo became team captain by winning the overall title.
"It is unusual for a middleweight or lower to win, and I looked small compared to the heavyweights," said the 5-foot-4, 165-pound welterweight. "But my package was complete. I had the hardness, definition, symmetry and presentation," which included posing, smiling and interacting with the judges.
Faildo prides himself on being "lifetime drug-free."
"I have never done steroids or growth hormone or diuretics, which are very dangerous," he said. "I am a 100 percent natural athlete. That's why it has taken me so long to get to this point."
After finishing third at the world championships in 1994 and second in 1995, "there is only one place to go. I am looking for the gold medal this year," he said.
After winning nearly every bodybuilding contest in Hawaii and many on the mainland, he is putting everything into that goal.
"Someone asked me if I would rather have a million dollars or the world championship and I said the world championship," he said. "That shows how important it is to me."
But Faildo, who is of Japanese-Chinese-Filipino ancestry, said family comes first. "If a family member needed help, I would drop this in a heartbeat."
The overall title at the U.S. qualifier made Faildo eligible for a pro card. He said he probably will apply for the card that grants professional status after the amateur championships but may not compete in the professional ranks.
"I can't see myself going on stage and finishing last because of my moral stand on drugs," he said. "I won't go that way (doing drugs).
He also admitted he's in his "upper years" in bodybuilding and that also could affect his decision.
Faildo said he will think about the pro status "after I eat a pizza" after returning from Korea.
But pizza is nowhere near his current diet as he prepares for the world contest, formerly known as Mr. Universe. He has a breakfast of a dozen egg whites and three-quarters cup of oatmeal, several protein shakes during the day, lunch and dinner of precisely 12 ounces of chicken or steak — he weighs the meat — and 12 more egg whites an hour before going to bed.
His strict routine began early, carrying his special food to school in a cooler. "I never ate school lunches," he said.
His day, which begins at 4:30 a.m., includes a one-hour workout, 40 minutes of cardio, and meeting with up to 10 clients as a personal trainer at Gold's Gym in Honolulu, giving life to his nickname "The Hawaiian Hurricane."
Faildo gives credit for his work ethic to his parents, who travel with him to all his contests and will be part of a group of 19 supporters accompanying him to Korea.
"Nothing was given to us," he said of his brother and two sisters. "They told us to work hard for what you want.'
He also credits his wife, Debbie, also is a personal trainer at Gold's. "She keeps me in line and is the backbone to my success," he said.
Faildo got interested in the sport from a bodybuilding magazine.
"I saw those big guys and said this is what I want to look like." He started with a weightlifting set in his bedroom and two years later began working out at a Honolulu gym.


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Good luck ,Faildo







Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: mass243 on October 14, 2007, 02:46:33 AM
Respect.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: musclecenter on October 14, 2007, 03:02:35 AM
Pics are top 3 of 2006 light-weight(70kg)  World Men's Championships

&

Malaysia's 3 times World Champion Sazali Abdul Samad (who move up to 70kg this year )
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: Monster81 on October 14, 2007, 03:59:52 AM
how stupid ar we to belive that crap.......
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: Dragon on October 14, 2007, 04:01:00 AM
chris faildo is an inspiration to say the least!
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: Monster81 on October 14, 2007, 04:10:34 AM
chris faildo is an inspiration to say the least!
huhuhuhuhaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: webcake on October 14, 2007, 04:30:00 AM
If thats true then good on him.

But i doubt it.

Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: Monster81 on October 14, 2007, 04:35:29 AM
If thats true then good on him.

But i doubt it.


theres no doubt about it dude.,,.thatli girl is juiced up to his nose............lol
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: bigkahuna on October 14, 2007, 05:26:26 AM
i remember gh15 making a post about this guy......something along the lines of how he relies on alot of orals and the like
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: dknole on October 14, 2007, 05:55:24 AM
he is 165 lbs, please you cant think he is a juice head - not when you view his pics or see him in person. Respect those that just work hard.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 14, 2007, 06:03:34 AM
haha juicing and still small. i guess his gf is hairy.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: musclecenter on October 14, 2007, 06:51:41 AM
Last year 2 competitors of this weightclass(70kg) were disqualified from drugtested:
Shameen Adams  (South Africa,3rd place)
Boontham Sriboontong  (Thailand,5th place)
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: gtbro1 on October 14, 2007, 06:52:18 AM
  all eggs
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: musclecenter on October 14, 2007, 08:22:57 AM
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=159185.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=159185.0)
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: The Squadfather on October 14, 2007, 08:26:43 AM
damn i remember when he was always on the cover of Bill Phillip's old magazine MuscleMedia he was small and skinny, he's put on a lot of size since then, no way he's still clean.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: Mars on October 14, 2007, 08:28:30 AM
he found another training workout that worked for him.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 14, 2007, 08:33:11 AM
A bold faced liar.

he is 165 lbs, please you cant think he is a juice head - not when you view his pics or see him in person. Respect those that just work hard.

Only a newbie looks at bodyweight to determine a juicer.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: LATS on October 14, 2007, 08:34:06 AM
 BEING ONLY 165 POUNDS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER HE JUICES OR NOT.. we all know the lights and tyhe welters ect on the national level who juice their ass off and are only 160 pounds..  as for chris himself, sorry, but he is not relying on egg whites.. ::)
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: pushinweight on October 14, 2007, 08:35:23 AM
obviously he found a way to mix egg whites with deca and primobolan that took him 26 years.  Good for him
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: musclecenter on October 14, 2007, 08:35:45 AM
 Faildo is a very humble guy when I talked with him back to 1995 World Men's in Guam,US

Hopefully he can take the World Men's 2007 title !!
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: Meso_z on October 14, 2007, 08:38:51 AM
chris faildo is an inspiration to say the least!

Youre "lifetime drug-free." too?  ::)
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: BFP on October 14, 2007, 08:41:14 AM
At 70 kg, is he under 5 feet tall?  Juice or not, Im impressed.

Jason
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 14, 2007, 09:07:42 AM
BEING ONLY 165 POUNDS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER HE JUICES OR NOT.. we all know the lights and tyhe welters ect on the national level who juice their ass off and are only 160 pounds..  as for chris himself, sorry, but he is not relying on egg whites.. ::)
It's really amazing isn't it, people staring at bodyweight to determine a juicer.

Look at the quality instead.

If you go to ThermoLife's homepage it says Faildo loved Triacana, which is potent thyroid drug. Obviously not opposed to using drugs to get ripped. Just because it was sold OTC doesn't make it a food supplement. It's a D-R-U-G, a damn potent one at that. So it has always been more than egg whites that got him ripped.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: pushinweight on October 14, 2007, 09:11:14 AM
Didn't I read on here that he was room mates and best friends with a pro BB or something from Hawaii who got caught with roids.  Hard to believe he do anything when they were right there in front of him. 
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: The_Schofeild_Kid on October 14, 2007, 09:32:51 AM
motherfu cking lying asshat. wtf is wrong with these little shits....

you don't have to run around yelling your juiced to the gills but don't flat out LIE to everyone. at least he's not as bad as skip lacour by whoring his books and bogus supps to other "naturals" who want to look like him. ::)
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: pushinweight on October 14, 2007, 10:10:23 AM
motherfu cking lying asshat. wtf is wrong with these little shits....

you don't have to run around yelling your juiced to the gills but don't flat out LIE to everyone. at least he's not as bad as skip lacour by whoring his books and bogus supps to other "naturals" who want to look like him. ::)

Okay settle down Chris. 
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: Captain Slin on October 14, 2007, 12:54:36 PM
hes 5ft 6 and 165... its very believable...didnt he work with Milos? along with another malaysian bber?
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: ATHEIST on October 14, 2007, 01:06:12 PM

  Chris is a humble, personable guy. Good luck to him. Obviously he is doing what he loves for a living.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 14, 2007, 01:48:45 PM
motherfu cking lying asshat. wtf is wrong with these little shits....

you don't have to run around yelling your juiced to the gills but don't flat out LIE to everyone. at least he's not as bad as skip lacour by whoring his books and bogus supps to other "naturals" who want to look like him. ::)

competitive bb is all lies, steroids and gaping anuses. as i said before.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: musclecenter on October 15, 2007, 07:33:15 AM
MD interviewed Chris Faildo at the 2007 Team Universe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJiVzkgNez0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJiVzkgNez0)
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: musclecenter on October 18, 2007, 08:52:51 AM
Faildo to end incredible career
Honolulu Advertiser October 18, 2007
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Oct/18/sp/hawaii710180365.html (http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Oct/18/sp/hawaii710180365.html)


( Photos by JEFF WIDENER | The Honolulu Advertiser)
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on October 18, 2007, 08:55:53 AM

HONOLULU (AP) — Chris Faildo, who began lifting weights as a teenager, says it has taken him a bit longer — 26 years — to reach the pinnacle of his amateur bodybuilding career because he has avoided the drugs that are pervasive in the sport.


 ::)

Not only are these clowns morons, but they expect everyone else to be too...
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: mwbbuilder on October 18, 2007, 09:03:42 AM
  Chris is a humble, personable guy. Good luck to him. Obviously he is doing what he loves for a living.

Why is being humble so important to the guys on this board?
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: ATHEIST on October 18, 2007, 02:32:29 PM

 never said it was important to everyone on this board, thats just your assertion. perhaps... humility is a respectful trait that most people admire.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: HowieW on October 18, 2007, 03:26:36 PM
he is 165 lbs, please you cant think he is a juice head - not when you view his pics or see him in person. Respect those that just work hard.

Ya gotta remember that most of the naysayers wish they had a 15" arm and weighed 165 lbs SMOOTH, never mind ripped. Perhaps the worst thing about the extensive use of drugs is our sport is that it provides for a ready made excuse for all those that lack size due to GENETICS and/or training and diet.

Chris Faildo has an extensive history of drug free contests and lifestyle. He is a class act and has an impressive physique without drugs. That just pisses the naysayers off and they have to attack him to keep the "drugs are the only way" myth alive.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2007, 03:36:25 PM
Ya gotta remember that most of the naysayers wish they had a 15" arm and weighed 165 lbs SMOOTH, never mind ripped. Perhaps the worst thing about the extensive use of drugs is our sport is that it provides for a ready made excuse for all those that lack size due to GENETICS and/or training and diet.

Chris Faildo has an extensive history of drug free contests and lifestyle. He is a class act and has an impressive physique without drugs. That just pisses the naysayers off and they have to attack him to keep the "drugs are the only way" myth alive.
Faildo has admitted to using DRUGS for attaining his conditioning. See my earlier post.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: HowieW on October 18, 2007, 03:45:44 PM
It's really amazing isn't it, people staring at bodyweight to determine a juicer.

Look at the quality instead.

If you go to ThermoLife's homepage it says Faildo loved Triacana, which is potent thyroid drug. Obviously not opposed to using drugs to get ripped. Just because it was sold OTC doesn't make it a food supplement. It's a D-R-U-G, a damn potent one at that. So it has always been more than egg whites that got him ripped.

The drug/strong supplement line is quite grey in areas like this, so technically one might consider him to have used a NON natural supplement. To me drugs are any banned substances that pose a clear advantage and are against the rules. The main point is to follow the rules and be able to be open about what you did to prepare your body for a show. When the typical pro operates outside the actual drug laws to merely compete it makes one wonder what is up???? (*BTW, I am against the drug laws!) In other words, ANYBODY can obtain the supplement he used via open , legal means. Much of the typical roid use reauires one the break the law.
 With everything from sunbeds and pro tan to whey protein , the sport is hardly 100% "natural", I mean c'mon we don't lift rocks and eat raw meat  ;D
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2007, 04:15:33 PM
The drug/strong supplement line is quite grey in areas like this, so technically one might consider him to have used a NON natural supplement. To me drugs are any banned substances that pose a clear advantage and are against the rules. The main point is to follow the rules and be able to be open about what you did to prepare your body for a show. When the typical pro operates outside the actual drug laws to merely compete it makes one wonder what is up???? (*BTW, I am against the drug laws!) In other words, ANYBODY can obtain the supplement he used via open , legal means. Much of the typical roid use reauires one the break the law.
 With everything from sunbeds and pro tan to whey protein , the sport is hardly 100% "natural", I mean c'mon we don't lift rocks and eat raw meat  ;D
Yes, and that's why he could just as well have used dimethyltestosterone, Halodrol, M1T, Formestane, desoxymethyltestosterone, ATD and etc, etc. None of these are/were any less legal than Triacana. None of these are any less steroids than Testosterone and Dianabol. If legality is the only deciding factor here, what you have is a heavily juiced athlete.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: ATHEIST on October 18, 2007, 04:28:36 PM
Yes, and that's why he could just as well have used dimethyltestosterone, Halodrol, M1T, Formestane, desoxymethyltestosterone, ATD and etc, etc. None of these are/were any less legal than Triacana. None of these are any less steroids than Testosterone and Dianabol. If legality is the only deciding factor here, what you have is a heavily juiced athlete.

 Yeah youre totally right! they also should also not claim to be natural if they take sudafed or ephedrine..damn liars!!!!!!!!!!!! how dare they.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: HowieW on October 18, 2007, 06:37:58 PM
Yes, and that's why he could just as well have used dimethyltestosterone, Halodrol, M1T, Formestane, desoxymethyltestosterone, ATD and etc, etc. None of these are/were any less legal than Triacana. None of these are any less steroids than Testosterone and Dianabol. If legality is the only deciding factor here, what you have is a heavily juiced athlete.

To me the LEGAL issue is the main issue and in my humble opinion Van B, you are missing my key pt here.
I could care less what Chris uses to prepare for a show. However, the products you named are pretty mild compared to real hardcore drugs. Plus, the BIG issue is that when a bodybuilder uses the hardcore stuff, they risk breaking the law. The legal stuff may be in some gray area in terms of being a drug, but NOBODY gets busted by useing them, with the roids one can get busted.

Once again, the current hardcore drug use, un-checked , essentially REQUIRES a bodybuilder who wants to be pro to use those drugs and thus be forced to break the drug laws.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2007, 06:46:03 PM
To me the LEGAL issue is the main issue and in my humble opinion Van B, you are missing my key pt here.
I could care less what Chris uses to prepare for a show. However, the products you named are pretty mild compared to real hardcore drugs. Plus, the BIG issue is that when a bodybuilder uses the hardcore stuff, they risk breaking the law. The legal stuff may be in some gray area in terms of being a drug, but NOBODY gets busted by useing them, with the roids one can get busted.

Once again, the current hardcore drug use, un-checked , essentially REQUIRES a bodybuilder who wants to be pro to use those drugs and thus be forced to break the drug laws.
First of all, no, they are not weaker than "real hardcore drugs". Ask Disgusted about M1T. Shit is like Anadrol. They are very "real", and in fact were never really legal either. Triacana was the same, now taken off the market.

For you the legal aspect may be the most important.  Faildo doesn't talk about legality when he condemns "drugs". He is saying getting in his type of shape is possible without chemicals, meanwhile taking potent thyroid drugs. There are reports in scientific journals of this "supplement" causing long term thyroid problems. That's selling a false dream to kids, saying you are doing it "the healthy way".
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: Dorian01 on October 18, 2007, 06:50:48 PM
Why is being humble so important to the guys on this board?
Because they're unhappy with themselves and insecure. Like the million threads on what they need to be for women to like them.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: ribonucleic on October 18, 2007, 07:07:30 PM
Eggs are made out of chemicals too. They just come pre-assembled, that's all.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: americanbulldog on October 18, 2007, 09:55:30 PM
Lots of Faildo hate here.  Chris is a nice guy, trains hard year round, weighs his food pre cooked, and cooked, supplements year round.  He should be praised, not reviled.  Very disciplined individual who burns out training partners like crazy because of his intensity. 
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: musclecenter on October 18, 2007, 10:09:55 PM
Lots of Faildo hate here.  Chris is a nice guy, trains hard year round, weighs his food pre cooked, and cooked, supplements year round.  He should be praised, not reviled.  Very disciplined individual who burns out training partners like crazy because of his intensity. 
most haters suspicion and envy natural bodybuilders, because they with weak-will and no discipline.
Haters post under their "user name" certainly have the advantage of speaking whatever you want .
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on October 18, 2007, 11:24:29 PM
Hang on, he got caught for diuretics in the 1990's. FLEX magazine crusified him for it due to his 'natural' stance.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: HowieW on October 19, 2007, 06:28:18 AM
First of all, no, they are not weaker than "real hardcore drugs". Ask Disgusted about M1T. Shit is like Anadrol. They are very "real", and in fact were never really legal either. Triacana was the same, now taken off the market.

For you the legal aspect may be the most important.  Faildo doesn't talk about legality when he condemns "drugs". He is saying getting in his type of shape is possible without chemicals, meanwhile taking potent thyroid drugs. There are reports in scientific journals of this "supplement" causing long term thyroid problems. That's selling a false dream to kids, saying you are doing it "the healthy way".

I think you would agree that if the over the counter the stuff worked like the "real stuff", the pros would use it.
Faildo is useing some cutting edge supplements and avoiding hardcore steroids.
The hardcore faithful don't want anyone to be able to develop a decent physique by legit means as that ends the drug myth and keeps the "ya gotta have drugs and lots of 'em" myth alive.
Plus, Chris Faildo is not massive and his appeal comes from his shape, symmetry and ripped ascpets of his physique.
The typical hardcore guy worships size above all else. To make a guy like Faildo as the ideal at a ripped 165lbs is NOT what the hardcore bunch advocates.
Look, Van B, if we want to split hairs and get technical , some of the gray area suppplements do merge into "drugs".
I think we both know that they are no way near as effective as roids or HGH, etc
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: Hedgehog on October 19, 2007, 06:31:23 AM
chris faildo is an inspiration to say the least!

I thought Faildo was a bone smuggler?
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 19, 2007, 06:42:00 AM
Why is being humble so important to the guys on this board?

they (competitive bbs) are humble, lying drug addicts   ::)
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 19, 2007, 06:52:56 AM
I think you would agree that if the over the counter the stuff worked like the "real stuff", the pros would use it.
Faildo is useing some cutting edge supplements and avoiding hardcore steroids.
The hardcore faithful don't want anyone to be able to develop a decent physique by legit means as that ends the drug myth and keeps the "ya gotta have drugs and lots of 'em" myth alive.
Plus, Chris Faildo is not massive and his appeal comes from his shape, symmetry and ripped ascpets of his physique.
The typical hardcore guy worships size above all else. To make a guy like Faildo as the ideal at a ripped 165lbs is NOT what the hardcore bunch advocates.
Look, Van B, if we want to split hairs and get technical , some of the gray area suppplements do merge into "drugs".
I think we both know that they are no way near as effective as roids or HGH, etc

your naive and wrong. faildo is using potent bb drugs, wether they are legal or not. he is not natural.

saying a guy is natural just because he isnt breaking the law is being very naive.
besides im sure he is using illegal drugs too.

using legality of drugs to classify a person as natural or not natural is idiotic. and its this loophole alot of guys like to use to pass themselves of as naturals. and its guys like you howie who believe em.


further you said "I think you would agree that if the over the counter the stuff worked like the "real stuff", the pros would use it."

is totally flawed argumentation..as the discussion was about guys who claim natural status yet use drugs that are almost as strong as the illegal drugs. also im sure most of the faildo type of guys also use illegal stuff.

they (the faildo type) are liars and certainly not natural.

Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 19, 2007, 07:14:58 AM
Look, Van B, if we want to split hairs and get technical , some of the gray area suppplements do merge into "drugs".
I think we both know that they are no way near as effective as roids or HGH, etc
No, there have been a few OTC designer steroids every bit as effective as an illegal steroid. Like I said, ask Disgusted about M1T. He has said that "it's just too strong". Some of the steroids sold OTC have been used by Olympic athletes, like the DMT, which was sold as "Phera-Plex" and is still available to my knowledge. THG which was the steroid in the Balco scandal could have been sold OTC through the same loophole as these other ones. In fact, the Gaspari Halodrol was analyzed by someone in WADA and was found to contain 3 different steroids including THG. Patrick Arnold has said that this steroid is one of the strongest steroids ever developed.

Besides, like slaveboy says, it doesn't matter if they were weaker. Faildo is promoting chemical free bodybuilding - legality should have nothing to do with it. If he needs thyroid drugs to get that ripped then how can he say it has all to do with discipline and strict diet year round?

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Plus, Chris Faildo is not massive and his appeal comes from his shape, symmetry and ripped ascpets of his physique.
The typical hardcore guy worships size above all else. To make a guy like Faildo as the ideal at a ripped 165lbs is NOT what the hardcore bunch advocates.
Some of the biggest juicers I have known have been little 150-160 pounders, very good bodybuilders but not mass monsters, shooting 4+ grams of gear a week.

I just remembered that onlyme has said Faildo was a juicer. Both live in Hawai so maybe he does know for sure.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: musclecenter on October 19, 2007, 07:30:48 AM
Thanks for clearing up the darkness and letting me in on the real truth. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: onlyme on October 19, 2007, 10:36:43 AM
No, there have been a few OTC designer steroids every bit as effective as an illegal steroid. Like I said, ask Disgusted about M1T. He has said that "it's just too strong". Some of the steroids sold OTC have been used by Olympic athletes, like the DMT, which was sold as "Phera-Plex" and is still available to my knowledge. THG which was the steroid in the Balco scandal could have been sold OTC through the same loophole as these other ones. In fact, the Gaspari Halodrol was analyzed by someone in WADA and was found to contain 3 different steroids including THG. Patrick Arnold has said that this steroid is one of the strongest steroids ever developed.

Besides, like slaveboy says, it doesn't matter if they were weaker. Faildo is promoting chemical free bodybuilding - legality should have nothing to do with it. If he needs thyroid drugs to get that ripped then how can he say it has all to do with discipline and strict diet year round?
Some of the biggest juicers I have known have been little 150-160 pounders, very good bodybuilders but not mass monsters, shooting 4+ grams of gear a week.

I just remembered that onlyme has said Faildo was a juicer. Both live in Hawai so maybe he does know for sure.

I don't want to get into this again.  Just to say I never have seen him take steroids................ .........BUT, he did live with the one of the biggest users and dealers in Hawaii who got busted and someone very very very close has told me they personally injected him on several several several occassions.  So take that however you want.  He might not do them anymore or whatever.  He looks great and he has won some good titles.  He isn't really any different than any other BB who has won shows.  Another thing is he cahrges over $100 per hour to train people and had them take his nutrition products he sells.  He would go to my friends supplement store next to Gold's and asked him many questions on nutrition and write down the answers.  My friend is super knowledgeable in nutrition and especially protein.  And then Chris would go over and tell his client and make it look like he had the answers and then sell them on his products.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: ATHEIST on October 19, 2007, 06:53:45 PM
No, there have been a few OTC designer steroids every bit as effective as an illegal steroid. Like I said, ask Disgusted about M1T. He has said that "it's just too strong". Some of the steroids sold OTC have been used by Olympic athletes, like the DMT, which was sold as "Phera-Plex" and is still available to my knowledge.

  your argument is similar to saying "well they sell aspirin over the counter and thats a drug" so therefore.........

sorry about what happened to Disgusted but if he is your only reference well then..

and legality has everything to do with it.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: americanbulldog on October 20, 2007, 01:46:29 AM
I don't want to get into this again.  Just to say I never have seen him take steroids................ .........BUT, he did live with the one of the biggest users and dealers in Hawaii who got busted and someone very very very close has told me they personally injected him on several several several occassions.  So take that however you want.  He might not do them anymore or whatever.  He looks great and he has won some good titles.  He isn't really any different than any other BB who has won shows.  Another thing is he cahrges over $100 per hour to train people and had them take his nutrition products he sells.  He would go to my friends supplement store next to Gold's and asked him many questions on nutrition and write down the answers.  My friend is super knowledgeable in nutrition and especially protein.  And then Chris would go over and tell his client and make it look like he had the answers and then sell them on his products.

You're wrong, Keith.  I don't think Chris as charged 100 an hour in five years.  Maybe you can get one of his trainers to train you for that amount, but not him.  And Chris would never sell anything that Rich had anyway.   ;)
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 20, 2007, 08:07:09 AM
  your argument is similar to saying "well they sell aspirin over the counter and thats a drug" so therefore.........

sorry about what happened to Disgusted but if he is your only reference well then..

and legality has everything to do with it.
Read the newspaper article - where does he say he doesn't use steroids because they're illegal?

Where does he say he would do steroids and other drugs if only they were legal?

Here:
Quote
"I have never done steroids or growth hormone or diuretics, which are very dangerous,"
Thyroid hormones are a hell of a lot more dangerous than any steroid.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: onlyme on October 20, 2007, 08:34:12 AM
You're wrong, Keith.  I don't think Chris as charged 100 an hour in five years.  Maybe you can get one of his trainers to train you for that amount, but not him.  And Chris would never sell anything that Rich had anyway.   ;)

No it wasn't that he sold what Rich had he went over there to ask Wayne everything about nutrition and what to take then go over and tell his clients.  He would push those products he sold.  I heard he would tell his clients he couldn't guarantee results unless they were taking his products.  Rich is an asshole.  And maybe you are right since it was about 5 years ago when I was on Oahu.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championships
Post by: Jerryme7 on October 20, 2007, 12:04:53 PM
Hey Onlyme...when I was in Hawaii, Faildo was pushing Met-rx.....he was saying that Met-rx had a lot to do with his conditioning and physique. Wasnt he one of the distributors of met-rx in Hawaii during the early years with this guy named Jeff (dont know his last name)? But yeah, I heard he charged that much ($100 an hour) same with Eugene and some other personal trainers in Hawaii.

But one thing about Faildo is he isnt tall at all. I saw him many times especially when he wore a suit at a Dr Scott Connelly's (creator of Met-rx) seminar at Kapiolani Gold's gym/24 Hr Fitness...Faildo isnt a big dude at all and you couldnt even tell he had that kind of musculature until you saw him in a tank top....
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: americanbulldog on October 20, 2007, 12:52:45 PM
No it wasn't that he sold what Rich had he went over there to ask Wayne everything about nutrition and what to take then go over and tell his clients.  He would push those products he sold.  I heard he would tell his clients he couldn't guarantee results unless they were taking his products.  Rich is an asshole.  And maybe you are right since it was about 5 years ago when I was on Oahu.

Chris got along with Rich as well as you did.  Wayne is pretty knowledgable, and I can see him gleeing information from him.  Chris was a Met RX distributor and a sponsored athlete before Met RX was sold to Rexall.  Alan was the original Hawaii Met RX distributor. 
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: onlyme on October 20, 2007, 01:12:21 PM
Chris got along with Rich as well as you did.  Wayne is pretty knowledgable, and I can see him gleeing information from him.  Chris was a Met RX distributor and a sponsored athlete before Met RX was sold to Rexall.  Alan was the original Hawaii Met RX distributor. 

Actually I think Lynn Seilbert was the first.  But the most successful was Jeff Watkins.  I have no idea how Rich stays in business.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: americanbulldog on October 20, 2007, 05:11:41 PM
Actually I think Lynn Seilbert was the first.  But the most successful was Jeff Watkins.  I have no idea how Rich stays in business.

He is uber successful at buying and selling used cars.  Really, no bs.  He makes bank doing so, and was able to parlay this into multiple properties. 
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: onlyme on October 20, 2007, 07:26:31 PM
He is uber successful at buying and selling used cars.  Really, no bs.  He makes bank doing so, and was able to parlay this into multiple properties. 

Yes that is right he sells cars.  Its how he funds everything else.  I think he tried real estate to.  He is your typical used car salesman.  He had that little gym setup behind his store in Aiea.  I can't remember the exact circumstances but I know he got that equipment without paying for it or something like that.
Title: Re: Chris Faildo trains on egg whites, not drugs for 2007 World Men's Championsh
Post by: americanbulldog on October 21, 2007, 02:19:25 AM
Yes that is right he sells cars.  Its how he funds everything else.  I think he tried real estate to.  He is your typical used car salesman.  He had that little gym setup behind his store in Aiea.  I can't remember the exact circumstances but I know he got that equipment without paying for it or something like that.

Actually, he got most of it from a non succesful gym opening at Queen Emma.  He literally stole that stuff for .25 on the dollar.  Flex, hammer where willing to let it go to a cash buyer because the previous owner was behind six lease payments.  People can say what they want about Rich, but he rarely loses money.