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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Riddick on October 17, 2007, 05:48:35 PM
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I remember the O when it used to be in a different city [or country] every year. That for some reason made it more fun to go and it seemed like the fans actually like that better. Just a few I can remember:
1992 - Helsinki (probably not a good spot anymore)
1993, 94, 95 - Atlanta??
1996 - Chicago
1997 - Long Beach, CA
I think they should rotate again. Might make it more interesting.
Discuss.
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If the Olympia couldnt even afford to stay at the Mandalay Bay in Vegas, then I doubt they can afford to rotate cities.
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They should rotate the judges,not the location !!
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They should rotate the judges,not the location !!
I think we have a better chance of seeing that happen with location ....don't you? ;D
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They should rotate the judges,not the location !!
Come on Wes, that's like asking for an act from God.
Lemme try:
God, if you're listening (or reading, whatever you prefer), can you PLEASE rotate the IFBB judges so guys like Dennis Wolf and Victor Martinez will stop getting screwed, fucked, shafted, over-looked?
I doubt he'll answer.
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They should rotate the judges,not the location !!
How about BOTH !?
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Come on Wes, that's like asking for an act from God.
Lemme try:
God, if you're listening (or reading, whatever you prefer), can you PLEASE rotate the IFBB judges so guys like Dennis Wolf and Victor Martinez will stop getting screwed, fucked, shafted, over-looked?
I doubt he'll answer.
I think God has more important things on his plate than who judges an oiled up muscle man contest ;D
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I think God has more important things on his plate than who judges an oiled up muscle man contest ;D
Ok mass04. ::)
I guess you couldn't sense the sarcasm. But, hey some are slower than others.
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Ok mass04. ::)
I guess you couldn't sense the sarcasm. But, hey some are slower than others.
ok "riddick" we all can't be comedic geniuses like you ::)
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I think God has more important things on his plate than who judges an oiled up muscle man contest ;D
Uh-oh. Now you've done it. Mr. Intenseone is inbound.
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depends on the interest. for shows outside the us i doubt the interest is there, my impression from the other pro shows is that it's not crowded.
if mr olympia came to london, barcelona or paris i'd go.
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They should rotate the judges,not the location !!
Definitely,
Bob any suggestion?
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they should get some judges from getbig
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1992 - Helsinki (probably not a good spot anymore)
1993, 94, 95 - Atlanta??
1996 - Chicago
1997 - Long Beach, CA
http://www.musclememory.com/wiki/index.php?title=Date_and_Place_-_IFBB_Mr_Olympia
I've got all the places, but not all the dates. Let me know if you can fill in a few of the blanks
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that is like asking should the olympia rotate Mr. Olympia's
it aint gonna happen
it's in da contract
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Definitely,
Bob any suggestion?
As to rotating judges? I'm all for it....
As to moving the location..there is a good reason they decided to keep it in one location after moving it around...It's difficult for the promoter, put's you in a guessing situation as to what kind of response you'll get, etc....
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing it in NYC, Madison Sq. every other year or so...
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Vegas sucks.
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As to rotating judges? I'm all for it....
As to moving the location..there is a good reason they decided to keep it in one location after moving it around...It's difficult for the promoter, put's you in a guessing situation as to what kind of response you'll get, etc....
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing it in NYC, Madison Sq. every other year or so...
Bob can you start to put together a petition for the judges rotation and have all active members of the IFFB to signed?
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Bob can you start to put together a petition for the judges rotation and have all active members of the IFFB to signed?
It goes deeper than that...the entire judges selection, process, etc. needs to be revamped IMO...I would make it more friendly to get former athletes to become judges..problem is, it's a thankless job with little to no benefits, long hours for little compensation....
There's not exactly a long list of candidates chomping at the bit to become judges....
They did rotate judges to a small degree at the Olympia, round by round..
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YES !!! DO IT IN NYC !!!
it would be awesome and just 5-6 hours from here 8)
hey Bob don't you think there should be only 1 judge per country instead of a lot of people from the USA ?
I think it would help as far as the favoritism goes
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Vegas usually has the cheapest flights and so many other things to do and see. i've been to Ohio for the Arnold a few times and it is a boring city, expensive flights and no where near as convenient to get around.
i'll go to every contest that is in Vegas.
rik
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They should rotate the judges,not the location !!
I agree! I think Vegas is a good venue.
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Vegas is great...not sure there is a better place to hold it.
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As to rotating judges? I'm all for it....
As to moving the location..there is a good reason they decided to keep it in one location after moving it around...It's difficult for the promoter, put's you in a guessing situation as to what kind of response you'll get, etc....
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing it in NYC, Madison Sq. every other year or so...
try a venue with 10,000 capacity and pray for a sell out
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It goes deeper than that...the entire judges selection, process, etc. needs to be revamped IMO...I would make it more friendly to get former athletes to become judges..problem is, it's a thankless job with little to no benefits, long hours for little compensation....
There's not exactly a long list of candidates chomping at the bit to become judges....
They did rotate judges to a small degree at the Olympia, round by round..
I totally agree Bob. As a promoter, I would love to have some ex-champs come over to judge. It would be great for the fans and have a lot of cred with the competitors. I have spoken to plenty of pros about it but no one has wanted to step up.
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I think NY would be GREAT! Lots of people, hardcore fans and relatively easy to get around. I also suggest Miami. It's a bit humid there, but overall the weather is great and always shit to do. Or Boston. hardcore fans there too.
Bob, let's face it....we're better off asking for the Olympia to be rotated versus the judges. Cuz you KNOW that ain't happening anytime soon.
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The location is good, although I think they should get a more prestigious hotel.
At this rate they are going to end up in Circus Circus before you know it.
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maybe the javits center in nyc but not the garden
oh yeah circus circus is next or the old paddlwheel
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There could be a change in Hotel, we'll keep you posted.
Bottom line is...when it was at the Mandalay, people bitched it was too expensive....can't please everyone.
I'm more concerned with the venue the show is held, rather than the hotel...plenty of hotels in Vegas.
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There could be a change in Hotel, we'll keep you posted.
Bottom line is...when it was at the Mandalay, people bitched it was too expensive....can't please everyone.
I'm more concerned with the venue the show is held, rather than the hotel...plenty of hotels in Vegas.
I understand that, but if this is the biggest show in the sport it should have top of the line accomodations.
You don't see the Super Bowl being held at Crappy Stadiums. They have to be held at the nice places.
Now about the venue...Isn't the problem that you don't want it TOO big because that defeats the purpose of the show.
Better advertisments of the parties and making it more inclusive is a good idea.
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I understand that, but if this is the biggest show in the sport it should have top of the line accomodations.
You don't see the Super Bowl being held at Crappy Stadiums. They have to be held at the nice places.
Now about the venue...Isn't the problem that you don't want it TOO big because that defeats the purpose of the show.
Better advertisments of the parties and making it more inclusive is a good idea.
The Orleans ARENA is a top notch venue..the Orleans HOTEL suck ass. Like I said...If people don't like the hotel...stay somewhere else...I did. No big deal...I took a taxi over to the hotel for whatever we had going, and gambled/ sayed at the MGM....
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Point taken...
So why aren't more former competitors wanting to judge?
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Point taken...
So why aren't more former competitors wanting to judge?
No incentive....minimal pay, long hours, cant win no matter what you do...
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Vegas is great...not sure there is a better place to hold it.
I have to agree on that, I wish they would have the Arnold there as well. Who wants to go to Ohio in February
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I have to agree on that, I wish they would have the Arnold there as well. Who wants to go to Ohio in February
aint that the truth
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No incentive....minimal pay, long hours, cant win no matter what you do...
so IFBB WANTS TOP NOTCH JUDGING BUT DOESN'T WANT TO PAY FOR TOP NOTCH JUDGES...MY QUESTION CHICK, AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE IS : WHY THE F@#$ AREN'T JUDGES FORMER COMPETITORS ?....WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYY ?
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No incentive....minimal pay, long hours, cant win no matter what you do...
whaddaya mean long hours? There's only a dozen or so pro shows each year..
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whaddaya mean long hours? There's only a dozen or so pro shows each year..
Hmmm. I would suppose there would be numerous judges meetings, clinics to keep their skills up etc. Not to mention setting time aside to meet with the Muscletech reps to make sure their story is airtight. ;)
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long hours? when there are few comparisions how is this possible
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Even though I am in favor of having former competitors judge, you'd have to be careful of who you get. I would think the competitor should be retired at least 5 years. Since the competitions are so subjective, I could see someone scoring a competitor lower because he talked shit about him when they were competing.
I'd love to see guys like Haney judging. I think someone like that posesses integrity and would be fair.
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Even though I am in favor of having former competitors judge, you'd have to be careful of who you get. I would think the competitor should be retired at least 5 years. Since the competitions are so subjective, I could see someone scoring a competitor lower because he talked shit about him when they were competing.
I'd love to see guys like Haney judging. I think someone like that posesses integrity and would be fair.
the judging will never change
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I think in order for this event to be truly a global competition, it should be held elsewhere, and overseas ffs.
I reckon it would go nuts in Asia and Europe. It would be better for the IFBB too having their 'top' competitors all overseas.
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the olympia should stay in vegas, it's about as unreal as it gets and the probodybuilding scene is also.
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I also suggest Miami. It's a bit humid there, but overall the weather is great...
The general time frame would put the show in Miami at about the height of hurricane season.
That could be bad.
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I wouldn't mind seeing the Olympia move eventually, but for the time being, it needs to work on getting its legs and the best way to achieve that is to stick with a place that the organizers and fans know, which should allow it to grow.
Since the AMI takeover, the Olympia Weekend has improved each year and I thought they made their biggest step forward from 2006 to this year, so fans should expect an even better event in 2008. Once the O is a consistent big money maker, only then would I consider trying another city again.
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I wouldn't mind seeing the Olympia move eventually, but for the time being, it needs to work on getting its legs and the best way to achieve that is to stick with a place that the organizers and fans know, which should allow it to grow.
Since the AMI takeover, the Olympia Weekend has improved each year and I thought they made their biggest step forward from 2006 to this year, so fans should expect an even better event in 2008. Once the O is a consistent big money maker, only then would I consider trying another city again.
I agree with all of these comments, although I DO think the host hotel needs to change.
But right now the problem is the actual SHOW.
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I would not want the Olympia anywhere else than Vegas!! Bodybuilding fits in just well in the City of Sin!
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I don't mind the Olympia being in Vegas every year - it's a city of excess which suits bodybuilding down to the ground but I think it would be cool if they have the Olympia in London one year just to be different. They've got the New York Giants playing the Dolphins at Wembley next week and they've also got the some NBA teams doing a European tour at the moment - American sport is coming East to attract a worldwide audience and bodybuilding should follow!
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Vegas is great...not sure there is a better place to hold it.
HOLD IT IN NY ! THE BEST CITY IN THE WORLD !!! 8)
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HOLD IT IN NY ! THE BEST CITY IN THE WORLD !!! 8)
It is way too expensive.
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HOLD IT IN NY ! THE BEST CITY IN THE WORLD !!! 8)
fuck you you spitting sob
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HOLD IT IN NY ! THE BEST CITY IN THE WORLD !!! 8)
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Fuck New York.
It's stayin' in Vegas. Vegas is the new New York.