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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: nycbull on October 19, 2007, 07:34:25 AM
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I am dissappointed in Getbig and I am shaking my head at the strange paradox you mindlessly created for yourselves.
You have longed for a pro bodybuilder to tell you the truth, to shake things up and make changes in the corrupt world of bodybuilding. You sit here day in and day out complaining about how the sport used to be better and how you wished things would change.
Now here comes a champion that is doing exactly what you wished for and what do you do? You discredit him.
Heres the paradox: You want someone on the inside to expose the truth. But the only way for a person get on the inside is to play the game. That's what Nasser did. Now you are holding that against him. wtf?
Who exactly are you waiting for? Mother Teresa is 6 feet under, The Dalia Lama has a few problems of his own and Arnold was just as corrupt as all of them and could care less about the future of bodybuilding.
Nasser may not be a saint but he is doing the right thing now. To discredit him is irrational?
Show some support for a guy who is trying to do some good.
nasser@cts.com
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i met Nasser in 2000 at a show here in Missouri, really nice, funny guy but seems like the type of dude who would be nice to your face and talk shit about you behind your back.
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what's funny are when people with a vested interest in the sport - will say Nasser is LYING.
When nasser said that 95% of pros use small sit injections somewhere, that was pretty accurate. Jay's delts/biceps. Dim's triceps. King's biceps. Darrem's shoulders. Martinez' Calves. The rest are more subtle but veterans can pick it up easily.
yet those around the sport - by orders from above - had to say that was nonsense, that no one really uses injections. If you've been around the sport for any amount of time, you know that a lot of guys shoot shit to fix weaknesses.
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kind of hypocritical for Nasser to call thes eguys out on site injections when he did it himself, THEY ALL DO IT, Ronnie does it, Jay does it, Melvin does it, Dexter does it, Victor does it.
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kind of hypocritical for Nasser to call thes eguys out on site injections when he did it himself, THEY ALL DO IT, Ronnie does it, Jay does it, Melvin does it, Dexter does it, Victor does it.
cue 12 pissed dumbasses to meltdown and go "no way do these guys use oil!!"
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I agree with you....about nasser, not about Southern Cali! ;)
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cue 12 pissed dumbasses to meltdown and go "no way do these guys use oil!!"
yeah i'm not saying synthol but THEY ALL site inject propionate or other test esters directly into the muscle.
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It's kind of hard to take someone seriously who sells used workout trunks on his website :o As much as I used to admire Naz as a competitor, he should of one at least once in the late 90's. I think he has an ax to grind.
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I am dissappointed in getbig and I am shaking my head at the strange paradox you mindlessly created for yourselves.
You have longed for a pro bodybuilder to tell you the truth, to shake things up and make changes in the corrupt world of bodybuilding. You sit here day in and day out complaining about how the sport used to be better and how you wished things would change.
Now here comes a champion that is doing exactly what you wished for and what do you do? You discredit him.
Heres the paradox: You want someone on the inside to expose the truth. But the only way for a person get on the inside is to play the game. That's what Nasser did. Now you are holding that against him. wtf?
Who exactly are you waiting for? Mother Teresa is 6 feet under, The Dalia Lama has a few problems of his own and Arnold was just as corrupt as all of them and could care less about the future of bodybuilding.
Nasser may not be a saint but he is doing the right thing now. To discredit him is irrational?
Show some support for a guy who is trying to do some good.
nasser@cts.com
your complicating the "nasser situation". he told some truths..but he also lied.
you want getbig to be white or black. it has to be gray.
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nasser was an amazing bodybuilder with synthol in his arms and shoulders. he won mr o 1997.
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Those who don't respect Nasser don't respect themselves.
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Those who don't respect Nasser don't respect themselves.
the logical question is why you respect nasser but not yourself.
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Those who don't respect Nasser don't respect themselves.
nobody's saying that they don't respect the guy, you have to respect the dedication and effort he put into building that 1996-1997 version of his physique but he's being hypocritical calling guys out on something he did himself.
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nobody's saying that they don't respect the guy, you have to respect the dedication and effort he put into building that 1996-1997 version of his physique but he's being hypocritical calling guys out on something he did himself.
I don't think his tone was "calling them out," he was basically trying to defend himself by saying that what he did is no different than what other pros did, in terms of site injections that is. In terms of being uneducated drunkards who sell themselves, that he rightly confining to others, without naming them of course.
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I am not saying Nasser did not do site injections or synthol, what I am saying is that no one on the inside of bodybuilding that knows what really goes on is completley innocent, otherwise they would not know what was going on. We are not going to get any better whistleblower than him. So why not support him?
Without guys like Nasser telling the truth the lies will just continue. Its like the mafia guys that turn states evidence. Without these guys you will not get to the root of the problem. Thats why I think getbig should support him in his whistleblowing (no gay jokes please), you dont have to like him as a bodybuilder.
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Where did Nasser say all this?
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Mindlessly believing everything the guy says would be foolish, but the bull has a point. Although I haven't followed this too closely, his statements which I've read were basically echoes of the most common complaints made on this board.
Has he posted anything directly on Getbig? He'd get some flames but I think he'd be well received overall.
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nobody's saying that they don't respect the guy, you have to respect the dedication and effort he put into building that 1996-1997 version of his physique but he's being hypocritical calling guys out on something he did himself.
exactly. people dont realize you can be alot of things at the same time.
take chris faildo for example..he is an humble liar.
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I am not saying Nasser did not do site injections or synthol, what I am saying is that no one on the inside of bodybuilding that knows what really goes on is completley innocent, otherwise they would not know what was going on. We are not going to get any better whistleblower than him. So why not support him?
Without guys like Nasser telling the truth the lies will just continue. Its like the mafia guys that turn states evidence. Without these guys you will not get to the root of the problem. Thats why I think getbig should support him in his whistleblowing (no gay jokes please), you dont have to like him as a bodybuilder.
the things nasser says aint nothing we didnt already know..he just gave us some details. what nasser says will change nothing.
and yes i think nasser was a great bodybuilder. im not a nasser hater.
nasser is already posting on getbig...would be cool if he and ron got him an official account tho.
nasser>cutler
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Respect to Nasser.....a very very good bodybuilder, educated, clever....fight for our sport Nasser.
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Nasser was awesome in 96 and arguably beat Dorian in 97. Shame he's still struggling on - should have quit a long time ago.
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TEAM NASSER BABY
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TEAM NASSER BABY
thats right baby!
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Respect to Nasser.....a very very good bodybuilder, educated, clever....fight for our sport Nasser.
Not to mention someone who being described as a class act with fans would be an understatement. What other pro will you meet at an expo for 2 minutes who will remember your name after not seeing you for over a year? Only Nasser baby!
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I am dissappointed in Getbig and I am shaking my head at the strange paradox you mindlessly created for yourselves.
You have longed for a pro bodybuilder to tell you the truth, to shake things up and make changes in the corrupt world of bodybuilding. You sit here day in and day out complaining about how the sport used to be better and how you wished things would change.
Now here comes a champion that is doing exactly what you wished for and what do you do? You discredit him.
Heres the paradox: You want someone on the inside to expose the truth. But the only way for a person get on the inside is to play the game. That's what Nasser did. Now you are holding that against him. wtf?
Who exactly are you waiting for? Mother Teresa is 6 feet under, The Dalia Lama has a few problems of his own and Arnold was just as corrupt as all of them and could care less about the future of bodybuilding.
Nasser may not be a saint but he is doing the right thing now. To discredit him is irrational?
Show some support for a guy who is trying to do some good.
nasser@cts.com
Hmm, do you "defend" Milos or Lee the same you are Nasser? Or is it more of a matter of who you're a bigger fan of? And you're not so into Milos so don't really care what he contributes, that he's contributed a zillion times over a period of years (including a free seminar), and how many times he's been shot down and bulldozed for telling the truth.
I don't see anyone who has "longed for a pro bodybuilder to tell you the truth" since Milos or Lee started posting. Did Nasser get suspended for standing up for what he believes in to "shake things up and make changes in the corrupt world of bodybuilding"?
He should do it for himself and the love of bbing, not for us. And do it in spite of us.
Just an observation.
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Hmm, do you "defend" Milos or Lee the same you are Nasser? Or is it more of a matter of who you're a bigger fan of? And you're not so into Milos so don't really care what he contributes, that he's contributed a zillion times over a period of years (including a free seminar), and how many times he's been shot down and bulldozed for telling the truth.
I don't see anyone who has "longed for a pro bodybuilder to tell you the truth" since Milos or Lee started posting. Did Nasser get suspended for standing up for what he believes in to "shake things up and make changes in the corrupt world of bodybuilding"?
He should do it for himself and the love of bbing, not for us. And do it in spite of us.
Just an observation.
Not true, Milos and Lee already have a very big following and many supporters, I only "defended" Nasser because I was suprised to see such a collective negative reaction to him on this board when I thought honesty and transparency was what getbiggers wanted. Maybe Nasser needs a better way of going about it, It may have been too much info at one time. People are resistant to any stirring of the pot, for good or bad. I think it comes out of fear of the unknown.
BTW I actually like Milos personality wise and his standing up against corruption. He has contirubted a lot of knowledge to this board and has a great sense of humor. But like many people here, I dont care for the 'false' advertising of products that dont deliver what they imply they do. That goes for all supp companies.
as far as "longing for the truth"...that is just my impression of this board. I may be wrong. But there is certainly a lot of complalining about unfairness in judging, rec drugs, prostitiution, lack of opportunities for pros, current aesthetics and the overall public image of bodybuilding.. Its seem to be pretty pervasive, even in gyms, but maybe I am only hearing one side of the story. I should visit Mayhem more often to hear the positives.
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Fcuk Nasser. he's no saint, just another Hypocrite
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I should visit Mayhem more often to hear the positives.
:D :D
i love mishko too,,how can you not love him,,was phenominal bodybuilder
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I should visit Mayhem more often to hear the positives.
:D :D
i love mishko too,,how can you not love him,,was phenominal bodybuilder
you'd never last over there GH, they hate the TRUTH on gayhem.
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sorry sorry i meant IS phenominal bodybuilder,,i can already see mr g coming on saying why did i use past tense,,englize and me dont go well together.. :D
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nasser should of won many times real no bullshit type dude
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Fcuk Nasser. he's no saint, just another Hypocrite
exactly the problem...who is going to be good enough to make change?, how is new leadership going to emerge if everyone is a 'hypocrite'?
It is interesting that the public is very forgiving of bad behaving politicians and even movie stars, but when it comes to bodybuiders their merciless.
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I was a huge fan of Nasser but he does come across as a hypocrite. i don't think people would have such a negative view of him if he was honest about himself as well a other professional bodybuilders.
"A problem in bodybuilding is that on-stage as a amateur or a pro or offstage as a regular guy I have realized that in a lot of cases that when people take anabolic steroids or any kind of substance like synthol, which I have seen being used but never used myself, one application too many can make the body look ridiculous. People lose perspective that this is how they look." Nasser
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He picks apart the the physiques and behaviours of other bodybuilder sounds as if he sees himself better than the rest. I didn't read him say anything negative about himself.
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FWIW, Nasser has the history of giving false, potentially lethal information, about plasma expanders to Sarcev.
A few stories have been told about how he's been bullshitting fans, giving them fake cycle advice and shit like that. Those stories came from several sources.
So SonBatys credibility may not be the highest.
Still, you always have to look at every situation and judge the information independently, ie just because Sonbaty was a lying bitch in the past didn't tell the truth previously, doesn't mean that he withholds the truth at all times.
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FWIW, Nasser has the history of giving false, potentially lethal information, about plasma expanders to Sarcev.
A few stories have been told about how he's been bullshitting fans, giving them fake cycle advice and shit like that. Those stories came from several sources.
So SonBatys credibility may not be the highest.
Still, you always have to look at every situation and judge the information independently, ie just because Sonbaty was a lying bitch in the past didn't tell the truth previously, doesn't mean that he withholds the truth at all times.
He would only "lie" if he felt people were asking him stupid questions.
I doubt he would tell anything other than the truth in an actual publicized professional interview.
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He would only "lie" if he felt people were asking him stupid questions.
I doubt he would tell anything other than the truth in an actual publicized professional interview.
Regardless of what he did in the past, his story is always interesting IMO.
But I have to say, the thing he did to Sarcev seemed very dangerous.
Giving false advice on plasma expanders.
What's your take on that?
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Regardless of what he did in the past, his story is always interesting IMO.
But I have to say, the thing he did to Sarcev seemed very dangerous.
Giving false advice on plasma expanders.
What's your take on that?
I actually have no idea on the plasma expander story....what happened exactly, if you dont mind me asking?
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so, has Nasser admitted he's gh15 yet?
I've been on a pre-deployment exercise all week so I'm out of the loop . . .
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I don`t think anybody that knows just a little about the sport needs Nasser to tell them that pros do anabolic/androgenic site injections.............. ..synthol is a completely different animal altogether.
I doubt if every pro injects synthol though,and it`s plain to see Nasser did.
These guys inject so often that they have to do site injects as they run out of spots to shoot.