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Re: pics of me,natural
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2007, 03:20:04 AM »
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thanks for the compliments!
i'm 5foot 7 and went up to 86kg down to 75kg right now
i squat 3plates and a half(on each side) for 8~10 reps
bench press is kinda weak... military press is warmup set for most getbiggers Embarrassed
i do 1~2hours cardio every day
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Is that kobiashi?
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My personal oppinion is : excellent build , monsta liar . :-\ ( 5'7" , 193 lbs )
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Its definately possible that he is natural.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM MMMMMMMMMM
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could be possible, these asian guys are all so fucking short that they can easely build up something like that.
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could be possible, these asian guys are all so fucking short that they can easely build up something like that.
u don't understand this bb stuff very well do u
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Yeh, could easily be natural.
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u don't understand this bb stuff very well do u
i think you don't, considering how shitty you look after juicing for years.
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Yeh, could easily be natural.
are u serious ?....he has quite a bit of muscle at 7-8 % ...u cannot hold on to that much beef at such a low bodyfat without the help of hormones ?
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u don't understand this bb stuff very well do u
They're not making a generalization as you are. They are saying it's possible given that the guy is so short. Not saying cut-and-dried that he definitely is natural- there is a difference.
When looking at his first photo, I was inclined to say he was natural, at that height; but I can't convert kilos into pounds!!! So then you say he's 193lbs? At 5'7"? A chinaman? THAT is where I disagree that he is natural!
If he were 5'7" and 175, and looked like that I wouldn't hesitate to say yes.
Seva- why even care if he is or is not natural? Either way, he's got better genetics to make you (at your juiced up best even) come in second place. :D
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He's not natural.
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Awesome/Superior Asian Genetics...All Natural. Dragon is the real deal people.
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I would be more inclined to say that he is natural than I would be to say sevastase is not natural. I can look at this guy and say "yeah he could be all natural", but I have a hard time looking at sevastase and thinking that that is all he could achieve with as much as he has admitted to using.
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Awesome/Superior Asian Genetics...All Natural. Dragon is the real deal people.
id rather be skinny then be a muscled dwarf.
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are u serious ?....he has quite a bit of muscle at 7-8 % ...u cannot hold on to that much beef at such a low bodyfat without the help of hormones ?
You can't seem to hold any muscle, with or without the help of hormones. Can you explain that?
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thats a lot of muscle for an asian to hold given their naturally slight build so i would say no, he isnt natural
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thats a lot of muscle for an asian to hold given their naturally slight build so i would say no, he isnt natural
??? ::)
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I would be more inclined to say that he is natural than I would be to say sevastase is not natural. I can look at this guy and say "yeah he could be all natural", but I have a hard time looking at sevastase and thinking that that is all he could achieve with as much as he has admitted to using.
u don't get it do u ?...I admitted to using d-bol for 5 weeks...that's it ! wtf do u think u gonna get out of that dumbo ?.....I'm a guy who trained all clean after 3 years of nothing...lifted for 2 years and at some point did 5 weeks of d bal. Can u understand this u fat fuck ?...5 weeks and I still look better than u even with that little
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thats a lot of muscle for an asian to hold given their naturally slight build so i would say no, he isnt natural
A good friend of mine who is Korean is 200lbs at 5'9 at around 13-14% and is completely natural.
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A good friend of mine who is Korean is 200lbs at 5'9 at around 13-14% and is completely natural.
Yes, but he's a sumo wrestler.
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A good friend of mine who is Korean is 200lbs at 5'9 at around 13-14% and is completely natural.
jae jonna?
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u don't get it do u ?...I admitted to using d-bol for 5 weeks...that's it ! wtf do u think u gonna get out of that dumbo ?.....I'm a guy who trained all clean after 3 years of nothing...lifted for 2 years and at some point did 5 weeks of d bal. Can u understand this u fat fuck ?...5 weeks and I still look better than u even with that little
Look better than me?
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Look better than me?
Is the test making you go bald or what?
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u don't get it do u ?...I admitted to using d-bol for 5 weeks...that's it ! wtf do u think u gonna get out of that dumbo ?.....I'm a guy who trained all clean after 3 years of nothing...lifted for 2 years and at some point did 5 weeks of d bal. Can u understand this u fat fuck ?...5 weeks and I still look better than u even with that little
I remember posts where you stated using more than just 5 weeks of D-bol.
I won't search for them, because you most likely deleted them on your Mr. GetBig crusade, as well as if they are still there, I don't care enough to say any more than I remember you saying you were using more.
Along the lines of what wisconsinBB is saying, you may be strong as shit in the gym (405x3 315x25 etc...) but you don't look anything like you can lift half of that let alone support that weight on your non-existent back. :)
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I remember posts where you stated using more than just 5 weeks of D-bol.
I won't search for them, because you most likely deleted them on your Mr. GetBig crusade, as well as if they are still there, I don't care enough to say any more than I remember you saying you were using more.
Along the lines of what wisconsinBB is saying, you may be strong as shit in the gym (405x3 315x25 etc...) but you don't look anything like you can lift half of that let alone support that weight on your non-existent back. :)
Seveaste has the build of a French tennis player. Nothing more, nothing less.
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I remember posts where you stated using more than just 5 weeks of D-bol.
I won't search for them, because you most likely deleted them on your Mr. GetBig crusade, as well as if they are still there, I don't care enough to say any more than I remember you saying you were using more.
Along the lines of what wisconsinBB is saying, you may be strong as shit in the gym (405x3 315x25 etc...) but you don't look anything like you can lift half of that let alone support that weight on your non-existent back. :)
He does have a good back man, see above .....
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Sevastase does have a good build, but his ego, his need to tell us how good he's built all the time, and his wierd fucking pics he posts makes him very hard to like.
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You can't seem to hold any muscle, with or without the help of hormones. Can you explain that?
If Dragon has a very low mayostatim production than is possible.
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If Dragon has a very low mayostatim production than is possible.
Oh boy, another mysotatin expert ;D
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If Dragon has a very low mayostatim production than is possible.
English mutherfucker! Do you speak it?!
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Look better than me?
wow!
WisconsinBB just bitch-slapped Sevastard like a pimp slaps a hoe when he finds out she's been holding out on his $. ;D
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No, I remember his posts. The fact that people like to add the tag line---Natural, makes it the more suspicious. Just don't say nothing.
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Seveaste has the build of a French tennis player. Nothing more, nothing less.
SEV's strength claims are also bullshit by the way.
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wow!
WisconsinBB just bitch-slapped Sevastard like a pimp slaps a hoe when he finds out she's been holding out on his $. ;D
I would like to see a benchpress and squat contest betwen WisconsinBB and Sevastard, I put $ 500 on Sevastard, the contest has to be poud by pound.
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I would like to see a benchpress and squat contest betwen WisconsinBB and Sevastard, I put $ 500 on Sevastard, the contest has to be poud by pound.
It would have to be a reps contest, as I NEVER max out. Maxing out is for legit powerlifters and ego lifting retards.
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SEV's strength claims are also bullshit by the way.
Seveaste is a steaming pile of monkey crap.
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Seveaste is a steaming pile of monkey crap.
I saw a video of sevastase squatting, he looked pretty strong. Like I said, his physique isnt bad, it is the way he carries himself and his fucked up pics that makes people not like him.
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Who ever said 193lb is a stupid moran that throw an unneccessary twist to the thread. of course the guy can be natural he said 75k in those pics, that is only 165lb, just a china man with better genetics then most of you.
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Who ever said 193lb is a stupid moran that throw an unneccessary twist to the thread. of course the guy can be natural he said 75k in those pics, that is only 165lb, just a china man with better genetics then most of you.
If that guy weighs 165, it is definately attainable naturally.
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I saw a video of sevastase squatting, he looked pretty strong. Like I said, his physique isnt bad, it is the way he carries himself and his fucked up pics that makes people not like him.
Considering he juiced to look that small I would say his physique is terrible. His face is ugly too.
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I saw a video of sevastase squatting, he looked pretty strong. Like I said, his physique isnt bad, it is the way he carries himself and his fucked up pics that makes people not like him.
The plates weren't 45's they were some weird European type that weigh 30 lbs or something like that
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The plates weren't 45's they were some weird European type that weigh 30 lbs or something like that
Maybe it was a post competition photo shoot, they always use fake plates there ::)
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The plates weren't 45's they were some weird European type that weigh 30 lbs or something like that
The weights are 44 lbs = 20 kg the bar is 44lbs=20kg.
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Maybe it was a post competition photo shoot, they always use fake plates there ::)
That is possible.
If I recall Sementaste recently competed in (and dominated) a "How many cucumbers can you stick up your ass"
contest in Romania
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Who ever said 193lb is a stupid moran that throw an unneccessary twist to the thread. of course the guy can be natural he said 75k in those pics, that is only 165lb, just a china man with better genetics then most of you.
165 is attainable. Just look at Big Wiggs friend who is in the military and is a ripped 155, but looks 190.
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That is possible.
If I recall Sementaste recently competed in (and dominated) a "How many cucumbers can you stick up your ass"
contest in Romania
Is that where the pics of him in his tighty whities with a bunch of guys undressing was taken?
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165 is attainable. Just look at Big Wiggs friend who is in the military and is a ripped 155, but looks 190.
I wrestled in hish school and there were a few guys that I know that wrestled 160 and 171 that looked very impressive who were also all natural.
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It would have to be a reps contest, as I NEVER max out. Maxing out is for legit powerlifters and ego lifting retards.
here's a rep contest for u...please tape yourself and get back at me
...if u can beat these 2...u are teh man...pound for pound is a no contest. A LOT OF U TALK SHIT BUT FAIL TO NOTICE THAT i CAN DOUBLE MY BODYWEIGHT IN BENCH AND ALMOST TRIPLE IT IN SQUAT . ;)
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I would like to see a benchpress and squat contest betwen WisconsinBB and Sevastard, I put $ 500 on Sevastard, the contest has to be poud by pound.
POUND FOR POUND ?....U GOTTA BE JOKING RIGHT ?...I'LL EMBARRASS HIM STRAIGHT UP .
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POUND FOR POUND ?....U GOTTA BE JOKING RIGHT ?...I'LL EMBARRASS HIM STRAIGHT UP .
Dude wisconsin owns the shit out of you. He destroys you. Just being real sevestes. Get over yourself.
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POUND FOR POUND ?....U GOTTA BE JOKING RIGHT ?...I'LL EMBARRASS HIM STRAIGHT UP .
who cares...this is not a powerlifting forum, its bodybuilding.
it's nice that you push more weight, but in the end, it's how you look.
and if there's anyone being embarrassed, it's the guy who takes
pictures of himself naked then paint-brushes his ass on the Jpeg photo...only to post on getbig 10,000 times
also takes pictures in his underwear while licking his lips at what
appears to be a giant euro-whore gang-bang convention. that's embarrassing...
know who i'm talking about? ;D ;D
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Dude wisconsin owns the shit out of you. He destroys you. Just being real sevestes. Get over yourself.
HE DEF OWN ME WITH A MUCH THICKER MIDSECTION
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POUND FOR POUND ?....U GOTTA BE JOKING RIGHT ?...I'LL EMBARRASS HIM STRAIGHT UP .
Im going to cry myself to sleep tonight
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here's a rep contest for u...please tape yourself and get back at me
...if u can beat these 2...u are teh man...pound for pound is a no contest. A LOT OF U TALK SHIT BUT FAIL TO NOTICE THAT i CAN DOUBLE MY BODYWEIGHT IN BENCH AND ALMOST TRIPLE IT IN SQUAT . ;)
How much do those plates weigh in the bench vid and the last squat vid?
The 405 for 8 is the only legit vid and nothing special, half the guys in my gym rep 4 plates on squats
PS If a NATURAL guy posted those it would be impressive, we all know steroids make you stronger, and you take steroids
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I have money on the fact that Sev. can swallow more cock than a captured platoon being held by Al Queda's gay faction.
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HE DEF OWN ME WITH A MUCH THICKER MIDSECTION
After some dieting, I doubt that.
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How much do those plates weigh in the bench vid and the last squat vid?
The 405 for 8 is the only legit vid and nothing special, half the guys in my gym rep 4 plates on squats
i ONLY DID 8 AS A WARMUP FOR 500 ...IF I'D HAVE COMPLETED 15 REPS YOU WOULD HAVE CRIED " FAKE !'...GO KILL YOURSELF .
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After some dieting, I doubt that.
Hahahah WisconsoW3dBB....... Sevatease...erase your account
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i ONLY DID 8 AS A WARMUP FOR 500 ...IF I'D HAVE COMPLETED 15 REPS YOU WOULD HAVE CRIED " FAKE !'...GO KILL YOURSELF .
You are the one killing yourself with the Anabolic Steroids.
You are a steroid user trying to pass himself off as a natural guy with excellent strength, when the reality is what strength you do have comes from the drugs in your system
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Sevestes you are out of your mind man. Seriously. Theres really no more reason to discuss this.
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Look better than me?
sevatase owned,The guy looks ten times better than you.And by the way you are a runt.
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Sev, due to his starting of this thread, portrays MONSTER, EPIC ENVY of Dragon.
Dude is natural and has every right to be proud of his physique.
I'm natural Sev, AND am thicker than your DBol ass........just get it thru your bald dome that some have better genetics and drive than your pasty ass.
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Hard to say, he have some acne in the chest area, unusual
for nattys to have.
I suspect drugs but he is short with low bf making him look big,
that size can be attained naturally as well, depends on his age and how many years it took him
to get there.
I am natty, I don't look as freaky as him but I look better than him in some shots
Pic of me:
(http://www.host-images.com/u/files/7tfps66l1zym9yja9ose_thumb.jpg)
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Who ever said 193lb is a stupid moran that throw an unneccessary twist to the thread. of course the guy can be natural he said 75k in those pics, that is only 165lb, just a china man with better genetics then most of you.
That would be Sementaste.
If that guy weighs 165, it is definately attainable naturally.
Again, I agree. :)
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Hard to say, he have some acne in the chest area, unusual
for nattys to have.
I suspect drugs but he is short with low bf making him look big,
that size can be attained naturally as well, depends on his age and how many years it took him
to get there.
I am natty, I don't look as freaky as him but I look better than him in some shots
Pic of me:
(http://www.host-images.com/u/files/7tfps66l1zym9yja9ose_thumb.jpg)
Looking very good from what I can see. Another getbigger whose physique completely owns sevastase.
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After some dieting, I doubt that.
gay wigger cap aside you are, as they say "looking swole bro"
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gay wigger cap aside you are, as they say "looking swole bro"
Jordan went to north carolina, so I have a bunch of NC stuff, and I like the baby blue. Trust me, Im about as far away from a wigger as they come! I DJ at a club where I live and I cant stand those kids.
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That would be Sementaste.
Again, I agree. :)
CLASSIC....hahahahahaha
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Anyone else notice that the plates Semeneater used for squats are different than the ones he posted in his 405 bench vid?
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Anyone else notice that the plates Semeneater used for squats are different than the ones he posted in his 405 bench vid?
yeah, we've noticed they're fake.
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Anyone else notice that the plates Semeneater used for squats are different than the ones he posted in his 405 bench vid?
Maybe Semenstain is carb depleted and goibg for the health look these days...
But, back to the topic at hand...Dragon does have the face of someone who has used anabolic/androgenic substances...his 165 Lbs physique can def be attained naturally.
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You are the one killing yourself with the Anabolic Steroids.
You are a steroid user trying to pass himself off as a natural guy with excellent strength, when the reality is what strength you do have comes from the drugs in your system
partly true but true
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Jordan went to north carolina, so I have a bunch of NC stuff, and I like the baby blue. Trust me, Im about as far away from a wigger as they come! I DJ at a club where I live and I cant stand those kids.
I'm a jordan fan as well..what I can't stand is blocky bodybuilders
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here's a rep contest for u...please tape yourself and get back at me
...if u can beat these 2...u are teh man...pound for pound is a no contest. A LOT OF U TALK SHIT BUT FAIL TO NOTICE THAT i CAN DOUBLE MY BODYWEIGHT IN BENCH AND ALMOST TRIPLE IT IN SQUAT . ;)
Why do you wear a belt? You don't even have it tightened up in the video. Good lift but it was pretty sloppy and you almost lost it there. . .
Anyone that thinks you take gear needs to have their head examined.
The asian guy. .. possible to be natural no probs. . . .I would like to see a pic of him from about 5 ft away and full body.. . close up pics are deceiving.
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If I recall Stevastase was taking D-bol only for 5 weeks,and that`s nothing. Wee can have a maximum rep and a multi repetition contest betwen Sevastase and WisconsionBB at the Colorado Pro, I would take care Sevatase`s travel expensions and I would put $500 on Savastase. This way we can save the Colorado Pro Show.
I would by 20 tickets in advance.
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I'm a jordan fan as well..what I can't stand is blocky bodybuilders
Dude ...winsconsinBB owns you, and as he said if you would stop making a fool out of yourself everyday and acting like a fukin retard people would give you props! You look good enough ,afterall nobody gives a shit if you're juicing or not, but for the love of God stop trying to MAKE YOURSELF LOOK GOOD, let other people judge the quality of your physique (if you feel confindent enough) and stop putting down people that look way better than you just because they disagree with your opinions... :-\
ps, yes the guy could totally be natural but we all know how this thing is going ...so he's the only one that knows for sure... :P
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If I recall Stevastase was taking D-bol only for 5 weeks,and that`s nothing. Wee can have a maximum rep and a multi repetition contest betwen Sevastase and WisconsionBB at the Colorado Pro, I would take care Sevatase`s travel expensions and I would put $500 on Savastase. This way we can save the Colorado Pro Show.
I would by 20 tickets in advance.
:D
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as far as the first page first picture, yes most natural guys have acne on their chest and forearms ::)
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totally possible,
i have a friend (asian) that looks way more jacked than that and has never touched a drug. I think he's myostatin deficient.
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u don't get it do u ?...I admitted to using d-bol for 5 weeks...that's it ! wtf do u think u gonna get out of that dumbo ?.....I'm a guy who trained all clean after 3 years of nothing...lifted for 2 years and at some point did 5 weeks of d bal. Can u understand this u fat fuck ?...5 weeks and I still look better than u even with that little
I thought I read posts where you talked about loving sustanon. :D
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as far as the first page first picture, yes most natural guys have acne on their chest and forearms ::)
Also Gyno on the left nip.
Looks too full to be a natty
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=176821.0;attach=205854;image)
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I believe he is a Natty. The South Korean guys are bigger than most think. They are not like typical asians. Chinese probably are the shortest (a few anomolies aside) and slightest boned. Jap's are a little thicker. But this new generation of Koreans, I don't know if it was the Siberian or Mongolian influence from years past but they seem to have heavier bones like caucasians but with the traditional Asian taper. I'd say Koreans are the superior asian for BB purposes, Japs for TV's and Cars.
Sevastase is just hating because even on juice he doesn't look as good as a Natty.
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I WEAR A CROWN IN THE GYM
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If I recall Stevastase was taking D-bol only for 5 weeks,and that`s nothing. Wee can have a maximum rep and a multi repetition contest betwen Sevastase and WisconsionBB at the Colorado Pro, I would take care Sevatase`s travel expensions and I would put $500 on Savastase. This way we can save the Colorado Pro Show.
I would by 20 tickets in advance.
Yeah he was only taking a 100mgs of d-bol a day ::)
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I WEAR A CROWN IN THE GYM
And a tiara the rest of the time...
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Also Gyno on the left nip.
Looks too full to be a natty
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=176821.0;attach=205854;image)
That isn't gyno, do you know what gyno looks like?
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sevestase is the ultimate guymaster he can handle 10 wangs in one squatting
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sevestase is the ultimate guymaster he can handle 10 wangs in one squatting
He was initially drawn to leg work because he thought the men said "squat whack". I imagine the leg work helps being on his knees all the time.
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He's not "huge" hes just really ripped. Easily possible for natural
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Dude ...winsconsinBB owns you, and as he said if you would stop making a fool out of yourself everyday and acting like a fukin retard people would give you props! You look good enough ,afterall nobody gives a shit if you're juicing or not, but for the love of God stop trying to MAKE YOURSELF LOOK GOOD, let other people judge the quality of your physique (if you feel confindent enough) and stop putting down people that look way better than you just because they disagree with your opinions... :-\
ps, yes the guy could totally be natural but we all know how this thing is going ...so he's the only one that knows for sure... :P
Good post...
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If I recall Stevastase was taking D-bol only for 5 weeks,and that`s nothing. Wee can have a maximum rep and a multi repetition contest betwen Sevastase and WisconsionBB at the Colorado Pro, I would take care Sevatase`s travel expensions and I would put $500 on Savastase. This way we can save the Colorado Pro Show.
I would by 20 tickets in advance.
I am not joking about the contest, I suggest a drag test before the contest and will go pound by pound. Any challenger? and I will sponsor Sevastase.
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I thought I read posts where you talked about loving sustanon. :D
It was all fake... ;D (or at least he says it was....)LOL
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are u serious ?....he has quite a bit of muscle at 7-8 % ...u cannot hold on to that much beef at such a low bodyfat without the help of hormones ?
You either have terrible genetics, don't train hard or eat like crap (or all 3) if you believe that.
I guess since YOU can't do it that NO ONE can, right?
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every one in the pictures here is hormonized ,,its callled recreational use and you can find the guys on various boards on the internet ,,1980 you go to pharma and buy,,1990 you go to gym dealer and buy ,,2000 you go to prohormones and get steroids with pro hormones with out knowing,,2007 you go to internet and buy the real hormones yourself
asian guy in particular is hormonized and still look small! looks lots smaller than 190lb look like 175lb and naturally would be at 145lb
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every one in the pictures here is hormonized ,,its callled recreational use and you can find the guys on various boards on the internet ,,1980 you go to pharma and buy,,1990 you go to gym dealer and buy ,,2000 you go to prohormones and get steroids with pro hormones with out knowing,,2007 you go to internet and buy the real hormones yourself
asian guy in particular is hormonized and still look small! looks lots smaller than 190lb look like 175lb and naturally would be at 145lb
THANK U JESUS ! :D I believe this calls for " nuff said and lets remember that if u wanna get ripped naturally u won't be able to hold on to anything musclewise . I AM NOT HATING : JUST CALLING OUT AN OBVIOUS LIAR .
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I am not joking about the contest, I suggest a drag test before the contest and will go pound by pound. Any challenger? and I will sponsor Sevastase.
hi sevastase ;D ;D
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just saw this post ABOUT ME
wiscinsinBB- damn you look freaky
gh15-your joking right? limit for 5'7natty is 65kg you say? your joking right? i was 65kg when kickboxing 10years ago and early 70kgs when training judo 6~7 years ago.
and the 'acne' on chest doesnt mean you juice. my damn sister has 3 on her back. are you retarded?
i'll post some pics taken the same week(as these pics) RIGHT NOW. (didnt post them before cause pics sucked.)
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(http://a428.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/27/l_67614bd694656be88a0f97fbe3ef5c7b.jpg)
(http://a428.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/67/l_1132301d1f2493879c111b7f1965ff43.jpg)
(http://a104.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/13/l_79e21da8cf4a56c694bdc08c4d4f55bf.jpg)
(http://a719.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/48/l_d8e68e07a5bbe86cea09646d1f359c86.jpg)
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my training partner(chinese) is 5'8 and around 72~75kg. all natural. no T3 no ephdra no GH no insulin no testosterone no everything. no DBOL.
65kg is limit for 5'7? LOL lets ask every pro who posts here there opinion. what about it. LOL
i'm out
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this is 5'7 and 5'8 at 65kg~70kg. ( friends at my gym) - all fuckin natural.
where i train, : we have maybe 10? 15? guys who look like this. GH15 and sevastase you are a fucking joke hahahaha thanks for the good laugh we're laughing our asses off at this post and retarded comments.
(http://a54.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/120/l_67c0b376bfef8e47158616e41609f1ed.jpg)
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hahaha i cant belive sevaste actually thinks hes in the same league as wisconsinbb.
the dickhead even makes a gimmic account to support himself (biceps)
sad man. very sad..
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damn i cant believe im posting shitty smaller looking pics of me
just to prove i dont use prohormones or steroids.
and i thought USA was the home of BBing? damn,, me and my friends would be IFBB PROS if we juiced seeing that americans are SO baffled that i'm natural. ???
well, GH15 the 'expert' says 5'7 75kg single digit BF natty is impossible// make your choice who's lying.
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haha, you guys really beat me.
that spring roll doesn't look anywhere near juiced. (Well, spermastasy doesn't either, but that's a different story...)
acne on chest and arms? He just has a tan on forearms and a rash on his chest from working out.
You're too funny, thinking his physique can't be achieved naturally.
It's all peking duck and sichuan pepper!!
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haha, they all look like little bolo yeungs
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haha, they all look like little bolo yeungs
No they don't. Congrats on attempted pop culture reference though.
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He has great arms, good build. I think he is natural. It's called working out, maybe you should try it sometime :D
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He has great arms, good build. I think he is natural. It's called working out, maybe you should try it sometime :D
Most guys here are to busy planning their next cycle to actually work out. ::) ::)
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hey dragon do the korean girls dig muscle?
hoping to tap some korean ass soon got any tips you can give me?
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hey dragon do the korean girls dig muscle?
hoping to tap some korean ass soon got any tips you can give me?
koreans love pubic hair, the more you have the more sexy you are. this goes for males and females. In korea, females actually implant more hair around the pussy to get more sexy.. ewww
have fun...
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Also Gyno on the left nip.
Looks too full to be a natty
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=176821.0;attach=205854;image)
good spot
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hahaha i cant belive sevaste actually thinks hes in the same league as wisconsinbb.
the dickhead even makes a gimmic account to support himself (biceps)
sad man. very sad..
biceps is Emerich Delgzeg's training partener . Hopes this helps . He actually made fun of my ina post . No need for gimmicks...I'll say what I gotta say under my real name .
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damn i cant believe im posting shitty smaller looking pics of me
just to prove i dont use prohormones or steroids.
and i thought USA was the home of BBing? damn,, me and my friends would be IFBB PROS if we juiced seeing that americans are SO baffled that i'm natural. ???
well, GH15 the 'expert' says 5'7 75kg single digit BF natty is impossible// make your choice who's lying.
Sevatease and GH15 arent American
hope this helps
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If I recall Stevastase was taking D-bol only for 5 weeks,and that`s nothing. Wee can have a maximum rep and a multi repetition contest betwen Sevastase and WisconsionBB at the Colorado Pro, I would take care Sevatase`s travel expensions and I would put $500 on Savastase. This way we can save the Colorado Pro Show.
I would by 20 tickets in advance.
I'm in Romania as of now....travel expenses would be expensive ...but thanks for the vote of confidence . If I'd be wisconsinbb a 280 lbs behemoth and have my ass handed to me by a 185 lb bodybuilder wannabe such as myself I'd just keep quiet and train harder . I have a 175 guy at my gym who beat's me strength wise easily...he is a phenom...always has been ( known him for 16 years ) . Funny thing is he is too poor to afford hormones now and used in the past. :-\ ....
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koreans love pubic hair, the more you have the more sexy you are. this goes for males and females. In korea, females actually implant more hair around the pussy to get more sexy.. ewww
have fun...
for real?? was thinking of asking this korean out.....i also trimmed my pubes the other day so maybe i should wait til they grow a bit haha
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for real?? was thinking of asking this korean out.....i also trimmed my pubes the other day so maybe i should wait til they grow a bit haha
well, if she was brought up in the US that might change views a bit. but original korean seem to like it.
http://www.hairscientists.org/pubic-hair-restoration-(women).htm
Korean men of all ages consider it unlucky to have sexual intercourse with a women without pubic hair. This is of considerable concern to females as their problem becomes public knowledge due to the customary communal bathing.
Pubic hair restoration surgery is therefore a consideration.
:-X :-X
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-chat/975245/posts
http://www.seoulstyle.com/tales_naked2.htm
Pubic atrichosis or hypotrichosis' is defined as the agenesis or the insufficient amount of pubic hair nevertheless the presence of other secondary sexual characteristics are normal. Such females may suffer from low self-esteem and psychological problem in addition to the aesthetic problem.
haha, any western woman would be lucky to have less pubic hair...
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He has great arms, good build. I think he is natural. It's called working out, maybe you should try it sometime :D
As I look at it yeah, I agree. My brother is 5'8 and when he started working out, he looked similar... The bad thing is that he stopped lifting and is still ripped the hell up!!
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I'm in Romania as of now....travel expenses would be expensive ...but thanks for the vote of confidence . If I'd be wisconsinbb a 280 lbs behemoth and have my ass handed to me by a 185 lb bodybuilder wannabe such as myself I'd just keep quiet and train harder . I have a 175 guy at my gym who beat's me strength wise easily...he is a phenom...always has been ( known him for 16 years ) . Funny thing is he is too poor to afford hormones now and used in the past. :-\ ....
Here you go again. Dude, if you read the posts Im the only one on here saying you actually look decent. You just need to shut the fuck up. In my offseason, yes, I get heavy, but never to the point were im a fat slob. I've shown pictures of what I look like when I diet and clearly I can get lean and when I do I have a pretty small waist for my size. Yet with all this, you keep saying that you own me, which I could really care less about, but it's going to keep getting you alot of heat. On top of all that.................... ..................I have hair!
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Here you go again. Dude, if you read the posts Im the only one on here saying you actually look decent. You just need to shut the fuck up. In my offseason, yes, I get heavy, but never to the point were im a fat slob. I've shown pictures of what I look like when I diet and clearly I can get lean and when I do I have a pretty small waist for my size. Yet with all this, you keep saying that you own me, which I could really care less about, but it's going to keep getting you alot of heat. On top of all that.................... ..................I have hair!
i ENVY U FOR THE HAIR :D ...I said I own u strength wise easily...size wize not even by a mile but I'd compare with u given enough time to prep ...I just likt my build better . U are a nice guy but u blocky. I hold aestethics in high regard and u just lack big time there . Other than that u seem a genuine good guy . Best of luck .
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i ENVY U FOR THE HAIR :D ...I said I own u strength wise easily...size wize not even by a mile but I'd compare with u given enough time to prep ...I just likt my build better . U are a nice guy but u blocky. I hold aestethics in high regard and u just lack big time there . Other than that u seem a genuine good guy . Best of luck .
Well there you have it, everyone has their own preferences. When the time comes that I decide to quit competing, I plan on staying around a lean 215 or so year round, as there is no purpose for me to walk around at 280. Like I said before, you have a good build, you just need to focus your energies on criticizing people who REALLY deserve it, like Goodrum.
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Well there you have it, everyone has their own preferences. When the time comes that I decide to quit competing, I plan on staying around a lean 215 or so year round, as there is no purpose for me to walk around at 280. Like I said before, you have a good build, you just need to focus your energies on criticizing people who REALLY deserve it, like Goodrum.
well...I generally hate shittalker who never post pics but claim big numbers ...aka groink
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i ENVY U FOR THE HAIR :D ...I said I own u strength wise easily...size wize not even by a mile but I'd compare with u given enough time to prep ...I just likt my build better . U are a nice guy but u blocky. I hold aestethics in high regard and u just lack big time there . Other than that u seem a genuine good guy . Best of luck .
no offence but... i dont belive those plates are really 45 lbs(20kg) on the clips you posted.
if the where real you would be a world class bench presser @ your weightclass which i doubt...
i think you are a liar plain and simple.
next time when you post a video of you lifting zoom in on the plates. prove the getbiggers wrong ;)
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Great build, could most definitely be natural.
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no offence but... i dont belive those plates are really 45 lbs(20kg) on the clips you posted.
if the where real you would be a world class bench presser @ your weightclass which i doubt...
i think you are a liar plain and simple.
next time when you post a video of you lifting zoom in on the plates. prove the getbiggers wrong ;)
none taken . U are like a guy who sucks dick , licks it clean and then wants seconds . Not Only am I one of the very few who post pics and tapes lifts but I am by no shape or means world class...240 kg squat at 90 kg and 190 kg bench world class ??? U obviously don't know much and asume plenty so I sugest to take what I post for what it is or just plain disregard it . :)
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sevasfag,whats it like to take 3500 mgs of dbol in 5 weeks and look like most highschool athletes?You fucking pathetic queer,who cares what you can lift when you dont look like you can lift it,id much rather look like i can lift it.asshole.
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sevasfag,whats it like to take 3500 mgs of dbol in 5 weeks and look like most highschool athletes?You fucking pathetic queer,who cares what you can lift when you dont look like you can lift it,id much rather look like i can lift it.asshole.
WOW! meeltdown.
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WOW! meeltdown.
WOW! homo.
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well...I generally hate shittalker who never post pics but claim big numbers ...aka groink
I posted a pic, sorry if I'm not shirtless and oiled up for your viewing pleasure. but you can easily see I am what I say I am. As far as big numbers, what the fuck are you talking about?
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I believe he is a Natty. The South Korean guys are bigger than most think. They are not like typical asians. Chinese probably are the shortest (a few anomolies aside) and slightest boned. Jap's are a little thicker. But this new generation of Koreans, I don't know if it was the Siberian or Mongolian influence from years past but they seem to have heavier bones like caucasians but with the traditional Asian taper. I'd say Koreans are the superior asian for BB purposes, Japs for TV's and Cars.
Abstract
Context: The reproductive endocrinology in Asians and Caucasians is of great interest in view of large differences in prostate cancer rate and sensitivity to pharmacological male contraception. In addition, interpretation of certain antidoping tests is confounded by interethnic variation in androgen disposition. Uridine diphosphoglucuronosyl transferases have a key role in the homeostasis and metabolism of androgens. Recently a deletion polymorphism was detected in the UGT2B17 gene.
Objective: The objective of the study was to evaluate the contribution of the UGT2B17 deletion polymorphism to the interindividual and interethnic variation of androgen metabolism and excretion.
Methods and Results: Urine from 122 Swedish and 74 Korean healthy men was analyzed for several androgen glucuronides including testosterone. The distribution of the natural logarithms of urinary testosterone concentrations showed a distinct bimodal pattern in both groups, suggesting a monogenic inheritance. When the UGT2B17 genotypes were compared with urinary testosterone levels, all of the individuals of the UGT2B17 homozygous deletion/deletion genotype had no or negligible amounts of urinary testosterone. The deletion/deletion genotype was seven times more common in the Korean (66.7%) than the Swedish population (9.3%). In addition, the Swedes had significantly higher levels of serum testosterone, compared with the Koreans.
Conclusions: Our results show that the UGT2B17 polymorphism is strongly associated with the bimodal distribution of the testosterone excretion and also with the large differences in testosterone excretion between Koreans and Swedes.
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/91/2/687
Having said that, I still believe Dragon is natural.
Edit. Looking thick Dragon!
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Fact #1
Asian dudes physique is easily attainable naturally. These days, anyone that looks bigger than the average lifter is accused of gear use, and who really cares if they do use it.
Fact #2
The majority would prefer the more muscular physique of WisconsinBB, than the average looking physique that moves heavy poundages displayed by sementaste
Fact #3
Out of Sementaste, Dragon & WisconsinBB, Sementaste ranks 3rd.. regardless of his poundages, and most on here would agree he ranks 3rd.
Fact #4
Sementaste started this thread partly because of Fact #3. Sementaste has a huge chip on his shoulder.
Fact #5
If you want to progress in bodybuilding, place more emphasis on training, nutrition etc like WisconsinBB and Dragon, rather than get nowhere and stir meaningless negative crap on the internet like Sementaste
Hope this helps
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im too busy to answer each particular pm about this subject so stop refering me to this post,,ill say it only once and that will conclude it
asian guys,,beside koreans,,majority of them have a limit of around 140-150lb at 5'7 naturally at single bodyfat%,,koreans you can add 10l-15lb over that while remaining single digit bodyfat%,,
any asaian guy that get over 160-165lb with single bodyfat% have been introduced to hormones and been very busy dedicating himself to lifting and the use of products some controlled and some,, though hormones and fat burners,, still undcontrolled because the goverments around the world didnt have to time to get to them inorder to make them prescribed/controlled,,also in asia in general hormones are considered natural because they are available in any pharma over the counter in most asian countries
now,,to the point of this thread,,the asian guy presented,, from what i gathered was suppose to be 190lb,,
inorder for this shrimp to be 190lb he needs to get on him another 30-40lb,,he looks somewhere arouind 160lb in a good wet day at single digit body fat% which he is,,he also have very good skin tecture like 99% of asians so that contributes to his good build though small guy,,
now,,!even though he claims to be true natural i would point him as a liar if he is anything over 160lb which we both know hes not,,with out reading much of the posts i would put him at 150lb not an ounce more,,that is indeed possible naturally at 5'7 single digit,,any number over 160lb at single digit and this guy touched the hormones and related products
this guy is simply too small to be on anything according to my opinion and if he is on hormones then its quite sad,,because on hormones you gotta be able to maintain 170-180lb at 5'7 at low single digit even if asian
that is it period no need to argue with me on something im expert at
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Fact #1
Asian dudes physique is easily attainable naturally. These days, anyone that looks bigger than the average lifter is accused of gear use, and who really cares if they do use it.
Fact #2
The majority would prefer the more muscular physique of WisconsinBB, than the average looking physique that moves heavy poundages displayed by sementaste
Fact #3
Out of Sementaste, Dragon & WisconsinBB, Sementaste ranks 3rd.. regardless of his poundages, and most on here would agree he ranks 3rd.
Fact #4
Sementaste started this thread partly because of Fact #3. Sementaste has a huge chip on his shoulder.
Fact #5
If you want to progress in bodybuilding, place more emphasis on training, nutrition etc like WisconsinBB and Dragon, rather than get nowhere and stir meaningless negative crap on the internet like Sementaste
Hope this helps
say what :D
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i think that the kid bought a couple boxes of 1-AD before the ban a few years ago... :o
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Sevaste nice camel toe in the 3rd pic = gay ::)
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Sevaste nice camel toe in the 3rd pic = gay ::)
u noticed..u droolin' ?
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im too busy to answer each particular pm about this subject so stop refering me to this post,,ill say it only once and that will conclude it
asian guys,,beside koreans,,majority of them have a limit of around 140-150lb at 5'7 naturally at single bodyfat%,,koreans you can add 10l-15lb over that while remaining single digit bodyfat%,,
any asaian guy that get over 160-165lb with single bodyfat% have been introduced to hormones and been very busy dedicating himself to lifting and the use of products some controlled and some,, though hormones and fat burners,, still undcontrolled because the goverments around the world didnt have to time to get to them inorder to make them prescribed/controlled,,also in asia in general hormones are considered natural because they are available in any pharma over the counter in most asian countries
now,,to the point of this thread,,the asian guy presented,, from what i gathered was suppose to be 190lb,,
inorder for this shrimp to be 190lb he needs to get on him another 30-40lb,,he looks somewhere arouind 160lb in a good wet day at single digit body fat% which he is,,he also have very good skin tecture like 99% of asians so that contributes to his good build though small guy,,
now,,!even though he claims to be true natural i would point him as a liar if he is anything over 160lb which we both know hes not,,with out reading much of the posts i would put him at 150lb not an ounce more,,that is indeed possible naturally at 5'7 single digit,,any number over 160lb at single digit and this guy touched the hormones and related products
this guy is simply too small to be on anything according to my opinion and if he is on hormones then its quite sad,,because on hormones you gotta be able to maintain 170-180lb at 5'7 at low single digit even if asian
that is it period no need to argue with me on something im expert at
STFU gh 15 ,I don't know if that kid is natural or not ,but, I'm a lifetime natural ,over 165 lbs single digits bf. so much for your expertise ;D ;D ;D
around 175lbs first pic, around 165 lbs second pic
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STFU gh 15 ,I don't know if that kid is natural or not ,but, I'm a lifetime natural ,over 165 lbs single digits bf. so much for your expertise ;D ;D ;D
around 175lbs first pic, around 165 lbs second pic
Great physique.
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here's a rep contest for u...please tape yourself and get back at me
...if u can beat these 2...u are teh man...pound for pound is a no contest. A LOT OF U TALK SHIT BUT FAIL TO NOTICE THAT i CAN DOUBLE MY BODYWEIGHT IN BENCH AND ALMOST TRIPLE IT IN SQUAT . ;)
Something is "off" about those videos. I hear a whole lot of clanging but don't see the plates wobbling on the bar that would warrant that kind of noise. In fact, in all my years of training, I've never quite heard such a racket when squatting...even without using collars. I don't know. Something just isn't right about those vids. I'm just saying...
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i think what gh15 says about asians is generally true.......there are many at my gym who will never break 160lbs due to poor genetics. However I think guys like dragon and whateva are in the minority of asians who have the ability to actually build some muscle
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biceps is Emerich Delgzeg's training partener . Hopes this helps . He actually made fun of my ina post . No need for gimmicks...I'll say what I gotta say under my real name .
He told me he IS Emeric?
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STFU gh 15 ,I don't know if that kid is natural or not ,but, I'm a lifetime natural ,over 165 lbs single digits bf. so much for your expertise ;D ;D ;D
around 175lbs first pic, around 165 lbs second pic
are you asian? dont know and dont matter
are you natural? id say clean and when not clean on ;) again we are talking minute man use ,,you are no big user most likley tab form and also once in a blue moon but its good enough and counts!
where you ever 3-4%? doubt it
5'7 175lb 6% bf = HORMONIZED OR CLEAN LIFTER,,5'7 155-160lb true 5-6% i may buy your bull and accept your naturality..
trust me i am never wrong when it comes to this
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are you asian? dont know and dont matter
are you natural? id say clean and when not clean on ;) again we are talking minute man use ,,you are no big user most likley tab form and also once in a blue moon but its good enough and counts!
where you ever 3-4%? doubt it
5'7 175lb 6% bf = HORMONIZED OR CLEAN LIFTER,,5'7 155-160lb true 5-6% i may buy your bull and accept your naturality..
trust me i am never wrong when it comes to this
you think you are the guymaster but you just dont have a clue gh15
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I can't believe how stupid/naive some of you are.
Do you all honestly think that someone can't maintain a bodyfat % of under 8% all year at a height below 6 feet and a weight over 200 pounds?
WHERE do you all train at? HOW to you train? You people never cease to amaze me.
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Its pretty obvious he is natural. Not everyone who is a natty is tiny you know, some of us have GREAT genetics. :D
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I can't believe how stupid/naive some of you are.
Do you all honestly think that someone can't maintain a bodyfat % of under 8% all year at a height below 6 feet and a weight over 200 pounds?
WHERE do you all train at? HOW to you train? You people never cease to amaze me.
ofcourse you can keep 200lb at sub 8% at 5'10 ,,but the way to it is via hormone use and a lot higher numbers on the scale before and after,,,those lifters who keep the status you mentioned have been 230 before and 240 before and been 12 and 15 % before ,,they have time on their belt and when they get to keep the 200lb at low singl digit they do it either with minimal use of hormones or clean BUT NEVER I REPEAT NEVER! NATURAL
again 5'10 165 4-6% i approve naturally,,
5'10 200lb even 190lb 4-6% is hormonized ,,doesnt mean big time user,,but 100% been on or clean as in on and off in cycles
rare are the bodybuilders who are naturals,,hormones in america today is like fake boobs on american women,,it is all over the place,,,wait till you see the list which i have seen already,,your eyes will turn black red and blue
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Its pretty obvious he is natural. Not everyone who is a natty is tiny you know, some of us have GREAT genetics. :D
there is one thing to be big,,naturals can be big,,many are very big even huge,,but also hold high double digit bf% or a lot worse ,,see mike arvilla before he went on stage in the past....he was huge btu was is good big? i ask you,,many more exmaples and he actually is a good example of holding to lots of his muscle while dieting,,some lose enourmous amount of muscle mass while dieting thus never go on stage and are what i call virtual bodybuilders
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are you asian? dont know and dont matter
are you natural? id say clean and when not clean on ;) again we are talking minute man use ,,you are no big user most likley tab form and also once in a blue moon but its good enough and counts!
where you ever 3-4%? doubt it
5'7 175lb 6% bf = HORMONIZED OR CLEAN LIFTER,,5'7 155-160lb true 5-6% i may buy your bull and accept your naturality..
trust me i am never wrong when it comes to this
Gh , I won't try to convince you, that ,I'm a lifetime natural (no tabs ,injections, nothing..)and I don't expect you to believe me either , all I have to say is ,in my case you are wrong :)
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I can't believe how stupid/naive some of you are.
Do you all honestly think that someone can't maintain a bodyfat % of under 8% all year at a height below 6 feet and a weight over 200 pounds?
WHERE do you all train at? HOW to you train? You people never cease to amaze me.
EXACTLY
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EXACTLY
Funny that you agree cause you are a perfect example of an easily attainable natural body, yet you've taken massive amounts of drugs and trained with fake plates to achieve it..... irony at its finest
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there is one thing to be big,,naturals can be big,,many are very big even huge,,but also hold high double digit bf% or a lot worse ,,see mike arvilla before he went on stage in the past....he was huge btu was is good big? i ask you,,many more exmaples and he actually is a good example of holding to lots of his muscle while dieting,,some lose enourmous amount of muscle mass while dieting thus never go on stage and are what i call virtual bodybuilders
i agree with what you are saying here but i dont think arvilla is natural
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ofcourse you can keep 200lb at sub 8% at 5'10 ,,but the way to it is via hormone use and a lot higher numbers on the scale before and after,,,those lifters who keep the status you mentioned have been 230 before and 240 before and been 12 and 15 % before ,,they have time on their belt and when they get to keep the 200lb at low singl digit they do it either with minimal use of hormones or clean BUT NEVER I REPEAT NEVER! NATURAL
again 5'10 165 4-6% i approve naturally,,
5'10 200lb even 190lb 4-6% is hormonized ,,doesnt mean big time user,,but 100% been on or clean as in on and off in cycles
rare are the bodybuilders who are naturals,,hormones in america today is like fake boobs on american women,,it is all over the place,,,wait till you see the list which i have seen already,,your eyes will turn black red and blue
You are DEAD WRONG, gh.
According to you, I'm an anamoly...an impossibility...
I can't believe you think that amount of muscle mass at that BF % isn't attainable without hormones. Unreal.
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BS.
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say what :D
Just stating the facts pal.
Dont you have something better to do than start a thread attempting to sabotage someones reputation of being a natural bber.