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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: Geo on October 22, 2007, 01:51:27 PM
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Rich Franklin is overrated and should move up to 205.
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Rich Franklin is overrated and should move up to 205.
Why should he move to 205? Make no sense.
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Why should he move to 205? Make no sense.
Why should he stay at 185? He'll be relegated to gatekeeper status if he stays. He's had his title shots, he won't get them again. He's also a natural 205 and wouldn't have to cut 20+ pounds to make weight. Don't ask me to explain something so trivial to you again.
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Why should he stay at 185? He'll be relegated to gatekeeper status if he stays. He's had his title shots, he won't get them again. He's also a natural 205 and wouldn't have to cut 20+ pounds to make weight. Don't ask me to explain something so trivial to you again.
He won't get title shots at 185, in other words you expect him to get title shots at 205. In other words, you see him as a contender for the 205 title!
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He won't get title shots at 185, in other words you expect him to get title shots at 205. In other words, you see him as a contender for the 205 title!
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What he is saying is if Rich stays at 185 who wants to see him vs. Anderson part 3. NO ONE... He can't beat him and would have a better chacne at winning 2 fights and being a contendet at 205. Do you understand this now. It does make sense..
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It's abundantly clear that he has next to no chance of ever getting the belt back at 185. So instead of losing energy and strength cutting to 185, he should move up to a division where he won't be a gate keeper and stands a chance of being a contender like Sincity said. It's absolutely pathetic that we have to explain this to you. And you want to be moderator. HA. The day.
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What he is saying is if Rich stays at 185 who wants to see him vs. Anderson part 3. NO ONE... He can't beat him and would have a better chacne at winning 2 fights and being a contendet at 205. Do you understand this now. It does make sense..
No that's not what he was saying. Don't make adjustments to someone elses comments that's not true. What he said was he won't have a title shot at 185 meaning he believes he will have at 205 which of course is ridiculous.
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No that's not what he was saying. Don't make adjustments to someone elses comments that's not true. What he said was he won't have a title shot at 185 meaning he believes he will have at 205 which of course is ridiculous.
Actually, I just agreed with Sincity so do me a favor and don't try to put words in my mouth or speak for me again.
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Actually, I just agreed with Sincity so do me a favor and don't try to put words in my mouth or speak for me again.
Sure you can agree with him but your original post is there - and now you're backing away from it.
Want me to post it again so you can put your foot in your mouth once more? I'd be happy to do it.
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Sure you can agree with him but your original post is there - and now you're backing away from it.
Want me to post it again so you can put your foot in your mouth once more? I'd be happy to do it.
Bluto I am pretty sure we both just said the same thing.. I don't know where your reading?
It makes all the sense in the world for Rich to take 6 months off and bulk, get stronger, work on his clinch defense ( he has had his lack of exposed) get back into the game mentally, then come out and eat up a few b class fighters in the 205 division. He could challeange for the title and try to get back to being Ace. I just don't see 185 as a good place for him anymore either. Anderson will always have him in the head. He broke the dudes nose twice both times required surgery and I doubt he want's to fuck with him agian. Plus who wants to see him climb back up and fight a few cans in that weight division. I would rather see him bang it out with the likes of Houston Alexander and Jardine. ;D ;D
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Show me in my post where I said he can fight Rampage for the 205 title? Do it and I'll delete my account. How about if you can't find it, Ron deletes yours?
Bluto I am pretty sure we both just said the same thing.. I don't know where your reading?
It makes all the sense in the world for Rich to take 6 months off and bulk, get stronger, work on his clinch defense ( he has had his lack of exposed) get back into the game mentally, then come out and eat up a few b class fighters in the 205 division. He could challeange for the title and try to get back to being Ace. I just don't see 185 as a good place for him anymore either. Anderson will always have him in the head. He broke the dudes nose twice both times required surgery and I doubt he want's to fuck with him agian. Plus who wants to see him climb back up and fight a few cans in that weight division. I would rather see him bang it out with the likes of Houston Alexander and Jardine. ;D ;D
Great explanation. Too bad it was wasted on that dipshit.
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Bluto I am pretty sure we both just said the same thing.. I don't know where your reading?
It makes all the sense in the world for Rich to take 6 months off and bulk, get stronger, work on his clinch defense ( he has had his lack of exposed) get back into the game mentally, then come out and eat up a few b class fighters in the 205 division. He could challeange for the title and try to get back to being Ace. I just don't see 185 as a good place for him anymore either. Anderson will always have him in the head. He broke the dudes nose twice both times required surgery and I doubt he want's to fuck with him agian. Plus who wants to see him climb back up and fight a few cans in that weight division. I would rather see him bang it out with the likes of Houston Alexander and Jardine. ;D ;D
Fighting in 205 is one thing, being a contender is another. There's far too many fighters in his way that would chew him up.
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Fighting in 205 is one thing, being a contender is another. There's far too many fighters in his way that would chew him up.
Like who? You were sucking his dick months ago. UFC fighters are superior according to you. He should have no problem chewing up the likes of Shogun and Rampage and other Pride fighters.
You know nothing. No one has seem him fight at his natural weight so you can't really say. Either way, it's better than being turned into a gatekeeper and never having a chance at the title. What's so hard to understand, retard?
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He should have no problem chewing up the likes of Shogun and Rampage and other Pride fighters.
Jesus. I can't believe you just said that.
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Jesus. I can't believe you just said that.
Go ahead and take that out of context. I'm quoting you and your belief that all Pride fighters suck. :D
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Go ahead and take that out of context. I'm quoting you and your belief that all Pride fighters suck. :D
What the hell you talking about? Is this another of those threads where you just make up stories along the way?
You think Franklin is title material in 205.
That's bullshit. Plain and simple.
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Why should he move to 205? Make no sense.
actually that is a more natural weight for him. he has to cut alot sometimes to to get down to 185
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Damn, this thread is backfiring pretty badly in ol' Blutsky's face.
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He should get sloppy fat and join the rest of the pathetic heavyweight line up...
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no it's not,franklin might bring something different to that division for one...
and for two,he has nowhere to go @185 as long as anderson's there,rich's style was made to order for the guy holding the belt,it only makes sense to look for greener pastures
What would that "something different" be?
If Anderson is in the way of the belt in 185, you think he would have an easier task against Rampage.
And that's just insane. Sorry to break it to you.
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I'm pretty certain after the beatin he took, the only way franklins gonna generate any interest is if he moves up....
i'd be interested in a ton of matchups with him at 205
Like I said the jardine, Houston Alexander route would be good, I wouldn't mind seeing Tito either, and you have Forrest. I think Rich could put a show with all these guys, Rashad Evans, bisbing, Matt Hammil. I think he would sell tickets vs. any of these guys. Plus he has a good chance at winning I think.
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I'm pretty certain after the beatin he took, the only way franklins gonna generate any interest is if he moves up....
i'd be interested in a ton of matchups with him at 205
Exactly. As of right now, he's going to be nothing more than a gatekeeper at 205. He's had his shots at that belt, he won't deserve nor get another. What's the point in staying there when he's got the potential to do some damage at 205?
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I was about to reply to BF but he just said he would delete his account so there's no use :-\
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Oh, so from original comments that he's TITLE material we're now talking about "what the crowd wants to see"
oookeeey... ::)
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I was about to reply to BF but he just said he would delete his account so there's no use :-\
Well, I put my account on the line because I know for a fact that I didn't mention Rampage in my first post about this but you seem intent on saying it. If you're so intent put your account on the line, twat.
He'll be a contender, plain and simple. NO WHERE does that imply that he'll beat Rampage. Stop making a fool of yourself. This is already boring.
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Well, I put my account on the line because I know for a fact that I didn't mention Rampage in my first post about this but you seem intent on saying it. If you're so intent put your account on the line, twat.
He'll be a contender, plain and simple. NO WHERE does that imply that he'll beat Rampage. Stop making a fool of yourself. This is already boring.
You said you would delete your account if I could prove you said he would fight for the title in 205. i did so delete your account. winning against rampage is not part of the discussion. fighting him is.
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You said you would delete your account if I could prove you said he would fight for the title in 205. i did so delete your account. winning against rampage is not part of the discussion. fighting him is.
Fortunately, being a contender doesn't mean you get a title fight. It means you're deserving of one and better than the majority of the other fighters. Keep pushing it, it's going to be funny seeing you lose your account the day you "became Getbig's #1 poster". ::)
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Fortunately, being a contender doesn't mean you get a title fight. It means you're deserving of one and better than the majority of the other fighters. Keep pushing it, it's going to be funny seeing you lose your account the day you "became Getbig's #1 poster". ::)
It's not about the contender comment, it's about this:
"Why should he stay at 185? He's had his title shots, he won't get them again."
your reason for him going up to 205 is he will get what he wont at 185 - title shots!
it's all there quoted! and then you deny this and claim you never said he will have a title shot ::)
well you just got owned.
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This would all be fine and dandy if it wasn't me saying it, and I and even Sincity apparently know what I was implying. So, shut the hell up and stop trying to put words in my mouth. But I don't mind if you go on, these two threads contain every thing needed to make sure you never see moderator on this forum again. And is also grounds for condensing every information post you make into one Bluto thread afterwards, because no one is interested in hearing from someone that has no idea what he's talking about.
Fury - 1000
Bluto - 0
How many years are you going to spend getting embarrassed by me?
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Anyone that claim Rich is title fight material in 205 is a fool. I don't care who says it. So far only you have. Which makes you the fool.
Hope this helps.
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Franklin lost to Silva twice, in brutal fashion, and it wasn't even close either time. Silva is the champ, and will be for a while, why would Rich persue that again? Rich should either move up to 205lbs, or maybe the UFC should send him to WEC to fight Filho. I think it makes more sense for him financially to move up to 205lbs though, there is alot more big names in the UFC 205lb division that would match up well with Rich. I don't see any where in BF's post that directly alludes to him fighting for the title. No one is saying he's title fight material at 205lbs, they are just saying Anderson has his number and it would just make more sense for him to move up to 205lbs, maybe he can fight Lyoto again.
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I would pay for a Rich vs. Forrest. HELLS YEAH!
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Anyone that claim Rich is title fight material in 205 is a fool. I don't care who says it. So far only you have. Which makes you the fool.
Hope this helps.
pretty sure Franklin started his career @ 205 and someone mentioned on another board that he still cut's from 215 or 220
he fought saturday night lookin like cuttin the weight killed him....
probably too classy to use it as an excuse
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if he did go up to 205, i'd love to see a Franklin/Liddell brawl. Could be a HUGE payday for UFC.
or yes, a Ortiz/Franklin match. Either way, I see Rich getting beaten though
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There is none