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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: oppositeofthin on October 23, 2007, 06:15:09 PM
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Chic,
Honest question: How is Tom Prince?
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Chic,
Honest question: How is Tom Prince?
'Bout 160 lbs soaking wet!
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'Bout 160 lbs soaking wet!
The guy has some serious health problems. I don't think anyone expects him to be a bodybuilder anymore.
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Chic,
Honest question: How is Tom Prince?
He's doing well...he and his wife run a property managment business which has taken off quite big over the last few years...keeps himself in shape with a few workouts a week...
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Glad things are going well for him. Is he not involved in the fitness industry at all?
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The guy has some serious health problems. I don't think anyone expects him to be a bodybuilder anymore.
His health problems are self-inflicted. And when he posted, his entire self-worth was invested in being "big" and a "pro". His favorite saying was, "if you're not an IFBB pro, you don't know shit".
You just gotta love karma! :D
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He's doing well...he and his wife run a property managment business which has taken off quite big over the last few years...keeps himself in shape with a few workouts a week...
Are you still tight with him?
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He's doing well...he and his wife run a property managment business which has taken off quite big over the last few years...keeps himself in shape with a few workouts a week...
Crank Yanker was a terrific online personality.
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is he still "trying to get smaller"?
He's doing well...he and his wife run a property managment business which has taken off quite big over the last few years...keeps himself in shape with a few workouts a week...
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He almost reminds me of mower there
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Mowers neck is much bigger.
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Goatboy, what kind of a person is happy over someone's health problems, self-inflicted or not? You're a classy guy.
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He's doing well...he and his wife run a property managment business which has taken off quite big over the last few years...keeps himself in shape with a few workouts a week...
glad to hear that bob. i always liked tom. met him at the arnold..real nice guy.
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Did he ever buy a place or is he still renting?
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Did he ever buy a place or is he still renting?
They moved to Long beach recently and bought a 14 rental bldg.
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Thanks for the update Chic. Tom was always a total freak looking bodybuilder I'd always wished that I'd met- glad to see he' still doing well.
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I bet the place is a dump, no offense to Tom, but properties are pretty expensive in California, and I doubt Tom had the money to get anything decent. Long Beach is a really high crime area. But good luck anyway.
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They moved to Long beach recently and bought a 14 rental bldg.
He's worth more now with no kidneys..
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I bet the place is a dump, no offense to Tom, but properties are pretty expensive in California, and I doubt Tom had the money to get anything decent. Long Beach is a really high crime area. But good luck anyway.
as long as the rent roll covers the mortgage and he makes a profit what does it matter?
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I think Mower's got him beat!
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I bet the place is a dump, no offense to Tom, but properties are pretty expensive in California, and I doubt Tom had the money to get anything decent. Long Beach is a really high crime area. But good luck anyway.
Yep...sure is...a 1.5 M dump..!
Keen sense of guessing.....you are truly gifted.
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Yep...sure is...a 1.5 M dump..!
Keen sense of guessing.....you are truly gifted.
You'll have to excuse "JediKnight", Bob, "he" hasn't been the same since "he" had to miss this year's Star Wars convention.
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Yep...sure is...a 1.5 M dump..!
Keen sense of guessing.....you are truly gifted.
You're saying he bought into a 14 rental building or he bought the building? If it was 1.5M for the whole building that does sound like a bit of a dump.
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I think Mower's got him beat!
what ever happend to mower? he was before my time..can we get him to start posting again?
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Mower turned to jesus and will not be back unless he requires another reinvention. He's a lost soul who has found a home. Good luck to him.
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what ever happend to mower? he was before my time..can we get him to start posting again?
Send him a message through his myspace: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=4474457
;D
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1.5 million for a 14 unit complex, that is a dump. Condo's alone go for that.
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1.5 million for a 14 unit complex, that is a dump. Condo's alone go for that.
Condo's also go for 300K....commercial property is different than residential, location, and details I dont know.....
You're assuming you know what you're talking about.....you dont.
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Let me guess Chick, he gave you the upper left corner condo for under 300k.
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Let me guess Chick, he gave you the upper left corner condo for under 300k.
I own a house...
Their not condo's, they're apartments...
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You're saying he bought into a 14 rental building or he bought the building? If it was 1.5M for the whole building that does sound like a bit of a dump.
you got that right.
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hahah
you see mower's "fightware" company
http://www.zazzle.com/overcomefitfightwear (http://www.zazzle.com/overcomefitfightwear)
hahah I just spit my drink all over my computer when the web page opened up ;D
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Everyone woul dlve Tom to be " down and out" fact is he is climbing to the top one building at a time.
Good luck Tom.
Thanks Bob.
The Beef
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1.5 million for a 14 unit complex, that is a dump. Condo's alone go for that.
Not in Long Beach. Should actually be a pretty nice building.
What do you know about commercial real estate, which in this case, it is?
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Not in Long Beach. Should actually be a pretty nice building.
What do you know about commercial real estate, which in this case, it is?
I am in real estate and have dealt with properties in Long Beach. A 14 unit complex for $1.5 million is an average unit value of under $110,000 per apartment. Long Beach has undergone a decade long gentrification, and you could not possibly get an apartment (1 BR) there for under $110,000 unless it was in one of the parts of the Long Beach that is still a combat zone. Now, tell me if I'm lying Bob.
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Actually, in various places, you can get a 14 unit complex for around that much. It is all relevant. May not be in the best part of town, but you can find many deals out there, especially in the climate you have now.
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I am in real estate and have dealt with properties in Long Beach. A 14 unit complex for $1.5 million is an average unit value of under $110,000 per apartment. Long Beach has undergone a decade long gentrification, and you could not possibly get an apartment (1 BR) there for under $110,000 unless it was in one of the parts of the Long Beach that is still a combat zone. Now, tell me if I'm lying Bob.
Have to agree....plus to even buy a $1.5 million commercial property would need about 20% ($300k) cash...plus the bank would want to see substantial cash reserves to support it...
Are you sure, Bob?....Unless of course his wifes father paid for it, right Bob?
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Actually, in various places, you can get a 14 unit complex for around that much. It is all relevant. May not be in the best part of town, but you can find many deals out there, especially in the climate you have now.
Commercial real estate is a completely different story....as rents are going up because less people are buying and more are renting, residential drops....but commercial will go up, as commercial real estate is valued by the income it produces, not how nice the drapes are.
The 'climate' for commercial is strong right now
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hahah
you see mower's "fightware" company
http://www.zazzle.com/overcomefitfightwear (http://www.zazzle.com/overcomefitfightwear)
hahah I just spit my drink all over my computer when the web page opened up ;D
BWAHGAGHAHAHAHAH ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?! WHat the fuck is the M shirt?
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Actually, in various places, you can get a 14 unit complex for around that much. It is all relevant. May not be in the best part of town, but you can find many deals out there, especially in the climate you have now.
I love ya Ron, but you're out of your element here. $110,000 will not get you anything inhabitable in Long Beach. If you think I'm full of shit, do some homework. Tom "Advilboy" Prince is either lying (as usual), or he owns a crack den in a warzone. Take your pic.
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after what Tom prince went thru, I give him a lot of credit for realizing that Pro bodybuilding is not everything.
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'Bout 160 lbs soaking wet!
LOL. I bet 240 is still kicking himself for not committing to that 10K/Prince weighs 215lbs at 'this moment' bet. He got bluffed by a poor bluffer. :'(
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Why all the hatred on the TP?
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I love ya Ron, but you're out of your element here. $110,000 will not get you anything inhabitable in Long Beach. If you think I'm full of shit, do some homework. Tom "Advilboy" Prince is either lying (as usual), or he owns a crack den in a warzone. Take your pic.
who cares if its a crack den if it brings in money for tom
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:o :o
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after what Tom prince went thru, I give him a lot of credit for realizing that Pro bodybuilding is not everything.
TP had his moments for sure.
However, I think if he hadn't gone through his personal experience, he would still be 312lb TP with the most gargantuan hammies ever...and still a dick to the non-pros.
The guy could write some great posts when he wanted though. :)
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I am in real estate and have dealt with properties in Long Beach. A 14 unit complex for $1.5 million is an average unit value of under $110,000 per apartment. Long Beach has undergone a decade long gentrification, and you could not possibly get an apartment (1 BR) there for under $110,000 unless it was in one of the parts of the Long Beach that is still a combat zone. Now, tell me if I'm lying Bob.
Here is just one, good insight.....hopefully you're into some other type of work now.
Raymond
Property ID: 15365874
Raymond
1228 Raymond Avenue
Long Beach, CA 90804
County: Los Angeles
For more information, click to email:
Tim Black
(909) 463-6708 Ext: 3
American Dream Homes Realty
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For Sale Active
Primary Type: Multifamily
Garden/Low-Rise
No. Units: 12 Building Size: 4,082 SF
Lot Size: 0.14 Acres
Occupancy: 100.00%
Price: $1,299,000 Price/Unit: $108,250.00
GRM: 11.83
Cap Rate: 6.00%
Date Last Verified: 10/9/2007
Property ID: 15365874
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Property Description:
12 units. All 1bed/1bath. Completely remodeled about 3 years ago. New windows,doors,cabinets,counter tops,ceramic tile,flooring,stoves and keyless security gate. Updated electrical including new meters, cooper plumbing, sewer & gas lines and new stucco and paint. Propoerty is in graet condition. Actual expenses are very low. Laundry Room for extra cash income. Laundry Equipment is owned and being sold "AS-IS" and included in the price.
Location Description:
Excellent rental neighborhood. Close to ocean and downtown shopping. Commission Split: 2%
Financial Summary Actual
Net Operating Income: $77,940
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1.5 million for a 14 unit complex, that is a dump. Condo's alone go for that.
You're a dick
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GRM: 11.83
Cap Rate: 6.00%
Date Last Verified: 10/9/2007
Property ID: 15365874
Sucker deal.
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Oh, hey...look at that another one...
16 units apt.
Property ID: 15012920
16 units apt.
1614 cherry ave
Long Beach, CA 90813
County: Los Angeles
For more information, click to email:
Choeun Kem
(562) 599-7376
pacific delta realty,inc
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For Sale Active
Primary Type: Multifamily
Garden/Low-Rise
No. Units: 16
Building Size: 9,328 SF
Lot Size: 8,499 SF
Price: $1,505,000 Price/Unit: $94,062.50
Cap Rate: 8.50%
Year Built: 1962
Date Last Verified: 10/15/2007
Property ID: 15012920
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Property Description:
two storie one building 14-1/1 and 2-2/1 and 8garages.total actual rent
$11780/m units mix 2-2/1/14-1/1..
Location Description:
easy torent close to retail stores.
Financial Summary Actual
Net Operating Income: $130,560
Unit Mix Information
No Unit Mix Information Provided
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No Debt & Equity Information Provided
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Here is just one, good insight.....hopefully you're into some other type of work now.
Raymond
Property ID: 15365874
Raymond
1228 Raymond Avenue
Long Beach, CA 90804
County: Los Angeles
For more information, click to email:
Tim Black
(909) 463-6708 Ext: 3
American Dream Homes Realty
Photos
Image 1 of 1
Front view - Click to Enlarge (1 MB)
For Sale Active
Primary Type: Multifamily
Garden/Low-Rise
No. Units: 12 Building Size: 4,082 SF
Lot Size: 0.14 Acres
Occupancy: 100.00%
Price: $1,299,000 Price/Unit: $108,250.00
GRM: 11.83
Cap Rate: 6.00%
Date Last Verified: 10/9/2007
Property ID: 15365874
Find Out More...
Options
Email Listing
Map
Demographics
Print Summary
Print ALL
Additional Information
Property Description:
12 units. All 1bed/1bath. Completely remodeled about 3 years ago. New windows,doors,cabinets,counter tops,ceramic tile,flooring,stoves and keyless security gate. Updated electrical including new meters, cooper plumbing, sewer & gas lines and new stucco and paint. Propoerty is in graet condition. Actual expenses are very low. Laundry Room for extra cash income. Laundry Equipment is owned and being sold "AS-IS" and included in the price.
Location Description:
Excellent rental neighborhood. Close to ocean and downtown shopping. Commission Split: 2%
Chick,
Tom's 14 unit $1.5 million dollar complex just shrunk to a 12 unit $1.2 million dollar complex! You better hurry up and invest before the place totally disappears off the face of the map!
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Wow....now everyone on here is not only 280 Lbs with 3% bodyfat....they are also real estate moguls and MBA's.............
PS. If you can get a consistent rental income in a depressed area, your profit margin can actually be HIGHER due to lower property taxes.
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Wow....now everyone on here is not only 280 Lbs with 3% bodyfat....they are also real estate moguls and MBA's.............
PS. If you can get a consistent rental income in a depressed area, your profit margin can actually be HIGHER due to lower property taxes.
i agree. i think everyone on here just likes to get bob going. i think its great that tom's making a good living. more power to him
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Wow....now everyone on here is not only 280 Lbs with 3% bodyfat....they are also real estate moguls and MBA's.............
PS. If you can get a consistent rental income in a depressed area, your profit margin can actually be HIGHER due to lower property taxes.
The problem with that is if the area is likely to decline further, the property value will go to shit and the deal will be a loser overall.
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Goatboy.....depends on your purchase price.....and if you are buying property to flip it or as a long term rental income investment....hey brother, even "slumlords" got $$$$ ;)
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PS. That cockroach from one of the apartments???? LOL
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He almost died for you bitches!
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Chick,,,,,Long Beach is a shitty area..very high crime area.
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Chick,,,,,Long Beach is a shitty area..very high crime area.
Not my preferred spot to live, but they do very well with rental property...to each their own.
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Good luck to him and his family then.
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Not my preferred spot to live, but they do very well with rental property...to each their own.
Not if they're buying at a 6 cap rate. Hell, at that they actualy reduce the cash-on-cash by putting debt on it, which is the exact opposite of how it is suposed to work. ::) What did they do, put together a bullshit proforma to fool the investors, put little or no money of their own in, and rake in management fees and GP fees?
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Ha, that's rich.
I live in RHODE ISLAND and a 110,000 condo unit is a slum..
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BWAHGAGHAHAHAHAH ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?! WHat the fuck is the M shirt?
It's the Team Mower shirt.
No kidding.
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Why all the hatred on the TP?
Gather round kids, its time for some onlyme style getbig history...
TP was erratic and extremely unfair on the boards. This wasn't even on getbig where being hideously defensive might make sense. This was on mayhem where they were all stepping lightly around the pro's so as not to offend them. People would get banned and shot down by TP all the time for nothing. It wasn't like was here, we're not talking about off the topic discussion, we're talking about fans who are just interested in things. I really don't know and am only speculating but he was very prone to moodswings and to me either drugs or dieting are to blame. I'm sure he's an ok guy now that he's away from that.
In height of his douchebaggianocity he posted a thread where he claimed that he would back titus up against a UFC fighter. Most of the people who read it, read it on mayhem but Tom quickly came down from whatever "mood swing" he was on and cannibalised the thread, claiming that getbig made up the post. Now maybe getbig deserves a bit of flack at times but in this particular case it was a stone cold lie that getbig made it up. There are former mayhem members here who will back up the fact that they all read it on mayhem.
The worst part is/was where he lied to Chick saying he didn't post it. I've got nothing against Chick so listening to him defend TP is an irritant and I think we've said our piece on that matter. I guess there is a possibility that TP literally didn't remember doing it. :-\
Anyway, despite that, it is in the past and I hope TP is doing fine. Its getbig history so if you ask for it you shall receive.
I wish hedgehog would archive a post like this so he can just repost it when people ask - he seems to have some mower stuff ready to paste in ;D
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rocket he also had an argument with mcjeff about the Golds gym sign, and actually started shit with him in golds, because of something Jeff posted on mayhem.
Good times.
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but he was very prone to moodswings and to me either drugs or dieting are to blame. I'm sure he's an ok guy now that he's away from that.
That's an understatement. He was moodier than a pregnant bitch on meth.
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+ 8 garages? nice garages here rent 4 $325. a month
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rocket he also had an argument with mcjeff about the Golds gym sign, and actually started shit with him in golds, because of something Jeff posted on mayhem.
Good times.
Hah, I don't remember that one, I hope McFarland drops in. History is far more interesting than the current state of affairs.
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Not my preferred spot to live, but they do very well with rental property...to each their own.
Rentals in depressed areas even with what looks like good numbers on paper equates to the type of tenants that want to live in such an area...problem tenants, which is what makes it a bad area in the first place.....not to mention to tie up all that capital in an area which will take decades to see a decent appreciation....but still, where did TP get that downpayment, Bob? No 100% financing in commercial real estate......
Are rich wives/in laws that prevalent in bodybuilding?
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the first property listed I think works out to like a little over 333 sq ft. per unit.
I am on the east coast, do people really live in such tight quarters like that to be in the heart of california culture?
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hahaha, 6 cap in an area anchored by subsidized housing. I bet that block's FAR is already at max, lol.
Chick is so stupid, love it.
green card - leverage
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Average condo price in our area (Sunset Beach/Huntington Harbour) is about $1.2-1.6mil.
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Rentals in depressed areas even with what looks like good numbers on paper equates to the type of tenants that want to live in such an area...problem tenants, which is what makes it a bad area in the first place.....not to mention to tie up all that capital in an area which will take decades to see a decent appreciation....but still, where did TP get that downpayment, Bob? No 100% financing in commercial real estate......
Are rich wives/in laws that prevalent in bodybuilding?
First off...I dont know the details of their business transactions...someone asked a question, I answered it based on what I know.
As for where they got the money for a downpayment...where does anyone get it? WORKING. They have many properties they manage...most of them are not owned by them, others are....
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tom prince
former mass monster, now turned slumlord
hope he doesn't end up dying for those bitches.
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rocket he also had an argument with mcjeff about the Golds gym sign, and actually started shit with him in golds, because of something Jeff posted on mayhem.
Good times.
What about complaining that Golds Venice didn't have a standing calf raise machine? I think it was Diamond City Gym that did, so he said he was leaving to train there (unsure of the name of the latter gym).
Or his constant negative attitude especially regarding pros and their supplement use.
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I live here in SoCal and finance apartment buildings for a living. I can assure you of three things:
1. His building is most likely fully rented;
2. You can make money in junk real estate;
3. Every real estate empire starts somewhere.
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I live here in SoCal and finance apartment buildings for a living. I can assure you of three things:
1. His building is most likely fully rented;
2. You can make money in junk real estate;
3. Every real estate empire starts somewhere.
Thank you, for lending a little professional insight to all of these self-made millionaires....
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Thank you, for lending a little professional insight to all of these self-made millionaires....
Hi Robert, when are you coming up to Rochester?
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Hi Robert, when are you coming up to Rochester?
When it's warm and sunny......might be a while.
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tom prince
former mass monster, now turned slumlord
hope he doesn't end up dying for those bitches.
some of my best friends are slum lords lol
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some of my best friends are slum lords lol
LOL, me too, it just sounded funny as shit. I own a bit of real estate but only a bit more upscale as far as location and neighborhoods, came my way unexpectedly, but shit more power to prince, capitalize on anything that may come your way, someones got to do it.
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some of my best friends are slum lords lol
What a coincidence... some of Bob's best friends are slum dwellers!
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