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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: gh15 on October 23, 2007, 09:36:01 PM
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gh15,
i recall you saying that sodium has to be very very low when dieting for a contest all throughout... as in the ENTIRE 12,16 weeks. why?
ALSO, why do so many guys keep sodium HIGH all the way until the last day or two and seem to have no water retention problems.
THANK YOU.
first paragraph answer = true naturals,,they try to keep low sodium during final prep while cycling the sodium intake
second paragraph answer = heavy hormonized bodybuilders who use duretics and thus sodium is kept high and help retain muscle size,,those same also use dianabol for cutting and anapolon for cutting,,they pay attention less to diet and more to pharmacuticals and sometimes it looks bad bad bad see last o and current champ,,but he is not alone at fault ,,it is everyone from me to him to any competitor in the 2000s
in any case it is good to cycle the sodium even if on hormones
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first paragraph answer = true naturals,,they try to keep low sodium during final prep while cycling the sodium intake
second paragraph answer = heavy hormonized bodybuilders who use duretics and thus sodium is kept high and help retain muscle size,,those same also use dianabol for cutting and anapolon for cutting,,they pay attention less to diet and more to pharmacuticals and sometimes it looks bad bad bad see last o and current champ,,but he is not alone at fault ,,it is everyone from me to him to any competitor in the 2000s
in any case it is good to cycle the sodium even if on hormones
you dont know shit about sodium, if you cut sodium you wont be able to workout or function handjob15
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I kept sodium high through out my entire prep. I think its easiest this way.
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I kept sodium high through out my entire prep. I think its easiest this way.
yep thats what im doing right now, its easy to wash out your electrolytes on a typical bodybuilding diet especially when you dont get enough sodium , you will feel like shit. natural sea salt is alkalizing (this means your body doesnt have to switch it to alkaline and use up chemical reserves as apposed to consuming something acidic)
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I kept sodium high through out my entire prep. I think its easiest this way.
Amen brother......seriously. My last prep I had it up to 3000 - 3500mg a day.
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Amen brother......seriously. My last prep I had it up to 3000 - 3500mg a day.
What did you stack it with?
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you dont know shit about sodium, if you cut sodium you wont be able to workout or function handjob15
i laughed at handjob15 lol
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first paragraph answer = true naturals,,they try to keep low sodium during final prep while cycling the sodium intake
second paragraph answer = heavy hormonized bodybuilders who use duretics and thus sodium is kept high and help retain muscle size,,those same also use dianabol for cutting and anapolon for cutting,,they pay attention less to diet and more to pharmacuticals and sometimes it looks bad bad bad see last o and current champ,,but he is not alone at fault ,,it is everyone from me to him to any competitor in the 2000s
in any case it is good to cycle the sodium even if on hormones
sorry i don't understand. cycle sodium???? how so?
plus if you are referring to Jay cutler his sodium is near zero the entire diet.
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Cut sodium too low and you lose muscle fullness due to the body dumping potassium to keep the two in balance. I keep sodium very high the last 3 weeks before a contest. Keeps you nice and full and there is no water retention.
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gh15,
I don't know a lot about drugs...you could be full of shit about drugs and I wouldn't know it
but...
One this, you don't know shit.
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you dont know shit about sodium, if you cut sodium you wont be able to workout or function handjob15
genious i said CYCLE SODIUM INTAKE IF COMPLETELY NATURAL AS IN CYCLE IT NOT ALL TIME LOW AND NOT ALL TIME HIGH ,,CYCLE
IF HORMONIZED YOU CAN KEEP IT UP MOST OF THE TIME
3500MG OF SODIUM IS NOTHING THERE ARE TIMES IM ON 6000MG SODIUM,,WHEN I SAY LOW SODIUM I DONT MEAN 300MG SODIUM GENIOUS EVEN IF NATURAL 300MG WILL MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE THE RUG YOU STEP ON AT THE ENTERENCE TO YOUR GYMNAZIUM
YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND WADY IS DISAPOINTED WITH HIS PLACINGS IN THE COMPETITION YOU HAD ON THIS BOARD SO IHE TAKE IT OUT ON HANDJOB15 ;)
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gh15,
I don't know a lot about drugs...you could be full of shit about drugs and I wouldn't know it
but...
One this, you don't know shit.
mw i love you too even though you hate handjob15.. :D
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i agree with GH on the sodium, very important for drawing water into the muscles and looking bigger, i heard Skip LaCour salts the living shit out of his food a lot.
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i agree with GH on the sodium, very important for drawing water into the muscles and looking bigger, i heard Skip LaCour salts the living shit out of his food a lot.
gh15's favorite person.......let's hear this supposed IFBB pro go on and on and on about this amatuer. :)
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15 seconds and nothing gh15....I'm shocked! :)
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gh15's favorite person.......let's hear this supposed IFBB pro go on and on and on about this amatuer. :)
Skip is juiced to the gills, anyone who thinks he's not is just isn't being realistic.
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I heard this guy was
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=177297.0;attach=206381;image)
ha ha...just kidding..he obviuosly not
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I heard this guy was
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=177297.0;attach=206381;image)
ha ha...just kidding..he obviuosly not
and you are? let me guess your camera is broken right? ::)
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and you are? let me guess your camera is broken right? ::)
I would take a picture..but my home has too much light...I need to go to a dungeon like your place.
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Theres def right and wrong ways to handle sodium in pre-contest but everybody is different trust me. I have looked drier eating a ton of sodium and drinking gallons of water without diuretics. I have also just not added any salt and kept my water intake at a norm while using diuretics and dried out nicely as well. One thing is for sure what GH15 said is true if your a nati you should cycle it. Our bodies use different amounts of sodium each day so to try to maintain the same amount by adding the same amount wont work.
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I would take a picture..but my home has too much light...I need to go to a dungeon like your place.
hahahahhaa, just what i thought, another pusssy. :D
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I would take a picture..but my home has too much light...I need to go to a dungeon like your place.
Excuses excuses. Bullshit
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"pusssy"? oh okay......I'm sure there's a reason why you take the time to take a picture in the dark. :) Do you only let the boys you sleep with do you in the dark because you are ashamed of your body too?
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Excuses excuses. Bullshit
It's called sarcasm.....look it up. I have no need to get into a pissing match with you boys. I see what I'm up against......not impressed. :)
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let me refrase again what i said since i want it to be completely understood,,when i refer to hormones i refer to any chemical product you get into your body ,,synthetic and related products,,
naturals should cycle sodium and depending on specific physiqe adjust sodium intake some find that high intake of sodium help you as natural to retain muscle fulness and its very true so they keep it high all along the prep,,some physiqes naturally retain more water due to higher estrogen level so they need less sodium as in cycling it
hormonized bodybuilder can keep sodium intake low or high depending on what hormones they are on for example....a drug like dianabol will make the body retain sodium and water so you can keep low-medium sodium while on it ,,,
now the reason i ever touch 6000mg+ sodium and many do as well is because we use duretics to adjust water problem in last stages of prep,,you need to know how to work with duretics because they can screw you up so it takes time and knowledge and knowing your own specific physiqe and its respond to the specific duretic,,never the less duretics is the reason i allow myself to go high on sodium while on dianabol for example,,duretics are part of the chemicals
it all depends wether you are hormonized or true natural,,and it factor in when preping and considering sodium intake
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Theres def right and wrong ways to handle sodium in pre-contest but everybody is different trust me. I have looked drier eating a ton of sodium and drinking gallons of water without diuretics. I have also just not added any salt and kept my water intake at a norm while using diuretics and dried out nicely as well. One thing is for sure what GH15 said is true if your a nati you should cycle it. Our bodies use different amounts of sodium each day so to try to maintain the same amount by adding the same amount wont work.
now what kind of sense does that make? Would you cycle water intake too?
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let me refrase again what i said since i want it to be completely understood,,when i refer to hormones i refer to any chemical product you get into your body ,,synthetic and related products,,
naturals should cycle sodium and depending on specific physiqe adjust sodium intake some find that high intake of sodium help you as natural to retain muscle fulness and its very true so they keep it high all along the prep,,some physiqes naturally retain more water due to higher estrogen level so they need less sodium as in cycling it
hormonized bodybuilder can keep sodium intake low or high depending on what hormones they are on for example....a drug like dianabol will make the body retain sodium and water so you can keep low-medium sodium while on it ,,,
now the reason i ever touch 6000mg+ sodium and many do as well is because we use duretics to adjust water problem in last stages of prep,,you need to know how to work with duretics because they can screw you up so it takes time and knowledge and knowing your own specific physiqe and its respond to the specific duretic,,never the less duretics is the reason i allow myself to go high on sodium while on dianabol for example,,duretics are part of the chemicals
it all depends wether you are hormonized or true natural,,and it factor in when preping and considering sodium intake
Serious question for you.
have you competed naturally AND with drugs?
How long did you train and how many shows did you do drug free?
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i never competed drug free as in no drugs during 12-16 weeks leading to show,,i was at the beggining stages of my amatuer career doing some show drug free on couple days pre competition but i suffered for it and had harder times winning it because i went cold turky couple days prior,,was when i was a young full of cum bull
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i never competed drug free as in no drugs during 12-16 weeks leading to show,,i was at the beggining stages of my amatuer career doing some show drug free on couple days pre competition but i suffered for it and had harder times winning it because i went cold turky couple days prior,,was when i was a young full of cum bull
I appreciate you answering that question and your honesty.
Your beliefs on what can be achieved without drugs is merely theory. I'm not saying that someone can be an IFBB pro without drugs but I don't know if you are the guy who is an expert on what a person can do without drugs either.
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i dont even know why i say its drugs because all it is is testosterone enanthate and sustanon dianabol and halotestin,,its only controlled in usa and couple other places,,it is legal everywhere including usa,,you just need prescribtion in usa and most places around the world you can do with no prescriptions get in pharma and buy it,,in usa you need a doc to write you this or get it descrete which is stupid because half the police departments in usa are on it and the goverment knows it but for now this is the way it is untill goverment decide to change it in usa
this should not be considered drugs anywhere,,it give you physical advantage and thats it,,sport enhancing supplements that work,,
now narcotics....i would thrrow you to jail for months if not years because they really KILL you,,so do pain killers,,those are the products who should be controlled and the goverment in usa will probably fix it in the future to be this way but not these times,,first goverment wanna screw the famous athletes and it will and ofcourse the goverment already scrwed the garbage underground labs that poisioned you with and made huge profit on you whjile selling narcotics also under the same illegal open house boards with trailersand dirty kitchens being used on usa ground!! to make those garbage products,,so i dont blame the goverment for that i actually support it
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now what kind of sense does that make? Would you cycle water intake too?
My point is you need to listen to your body and not go by something your read. Pre-contest or not there will be days when your body is telling you it wants more water or less water. Same with sodium and anything else you put in it. Nothing is set in stone and you wont find what works best for you until you try a number of different strategies. Yes i do cycle my water on low carb days i drink as much as i can take on high carb days i drink much less. If i drink a lot on high carb days i just bloat and make my body work harder to get rid of it.
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What about (hormonized as you put it) keeping your sodium fairly low the last week but adding the evening prior to competition ? This has worked well for me to dry out and then fill out the morning of the show.
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Gh15,
It is safe to say that you do not make living from the legitimate sources of bodybuilding income (sponsorships, prize money, appearances). Given your vast knowledge of drugs, is it really much of a leap to assume that you are a dealer?
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Gh15,
It is safe to say that you do not make living from the legitimate sources of bodybuilding income (sponsorships, prize money, appearances). Given your vast knowledge of drugs, is it really much of a leap to assume that you are a dealer?
gh15 ONLY lives off bodybuilding contracts and bodybuilding competition,,thats the only single thing i live off PROFESSIONAL BODYBUILDING
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gh15 what is your opinion on t-bol?
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and you are? let me guess your camera is broken right? ::)
The fact that you have a pic of some fat guy in a mumu with his face shadowed and half blocked means nothing sf. In fact it could easily NOT be you. If you put up a pic of your body in decent lighting with face blurred out and holding a sign that says "yo getbig me SF" or something I migth believe it, but not otherwise. You're on here 24 hours a fucking day no way do you workout or have a job. You cannot be older than 16 I would almost NOT believe it no matter what you do.