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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: OneMoreRep on October 25, 2007, 07:59:11 AM
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...Deep down inside, do you feel betrayed by Shawn Ray?
...Can you truly say that after years of defending him, erasing bad posts about him, letting him have his way with this board, that you don't partially feel betrayed by the fact that he completely jumped ship and then turned his back on everything he stood for, believed in and, most important, you?
...If the man spent years insulting MD and everything they stood for, swearing that he would never go that low, doesn't it surprise you that at the drop of a dime, he flips his wig and starts working for them?
...I know you probably didn't pay Shawn Ray any money RON, but I'm pretty certain that if not for GETBIG, Shawn Ray would have been forgotten a long time ago, because this was his main medium for advertisement, not to mention for humiliation of others. The crap he would pull on Keith and others was downright wrong and no one ever gave him shit about it. Now, because of a few coins in the bag, like that of Judas Iscariot*, he would turn his back on the man (RON) who kept that pulse beating.. Think about it RON, if not for you, why else would anyone in the BB'game care about who Shawn Ray is. If not for him using this venue to keep his name alive, he probably would have never been offered this contract at MD.
Tell us the truth RON, deep down inside, don't you feel that Shawn is a fucking traitor?
*(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/0/04/250px-Judas.jpg)
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Stark, do you think Ron will honestly answer this?
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No sleep lost surely ....... No loss.
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...Deep down inside, do you feel betrayed by Shawn Ray?
Why would he? Ron understands that business is business. It's not like Ron was paying Shawn to post here.
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Stark, do you think Ron will honestly answer this?
i don't think they had any type of agreement or contract (maybe they did) i dont know...
but if the contract was up...and MD put more money on the table (or Ron put nothing at all...)
then it's just business.
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Loyalty over business.
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Shawn didnt get paid for posting here lol,
the MD contracts states as a writer shawn cant post on any other message boards,
MD sucks ass.
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Stark, do you think Ron will honestly answer this?
Ron is a honest man, I have nothing but respect for him, so I say yes he will answer this
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Maybe they think he will injure himself.
Just as Fedor if he signed with UFC couldn't fight anywhere else :-\
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Why would he? Ron understands that business is business. It's not like Ron was paying Shawn to post here.
Goat,
Business is certainly business, but Shawn was given many liberties on this board, a license to ill if you know what I mean, and to just betray Ron and head over to the dark side is quite sad.
Although Ron probably never paid Shawn a cent, he did allow Shawn to advertise for all his events and as you know, advertising can cost you a pretty penny depending on the medium you use and since this is the most viewed bodybuilding website in the universe, it could have technically cost him a shitload to advertise here if Ron felt the need to charge him. Aside from that, I'm sure Shawn got many other goodies behind the scenes that we don't know about.
EDIT:
Events Shawn advertised for FREE on GETBIG, whichw ould have cost him an arm/leg on any MD publication:
Colorado Pro
Those ridiculous Schmoe training camps
The donate money to Flex Wheeler fund
His personal videos (Remember, he would never answer any real questions, but instead resort you to his videos)
His personal training services (G4P included)
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Well, wait for Ron's answer, but knowing Ron I seriously doubt he has any issues with it.
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Bros over hoes. That's why I never registered on MD.
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Bros over hoes. That's why I never registered on MD.
I registered at MD, but the fucckers banned me even though I made no troll posts over there. >:(
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Well, wait for Ron's answer, but knowing Ron I seriously doubt he has any issues with it.
Ron has always been a peaceful diplomat trying to make everyone happy, I just think Shawn's betrayal might have turned a page in Ron's book.
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Let's be honest - if MD contacted you and said "okay, here's the deal - we'll pay you $4k a year to post on our website if you leave Getbig (who pay you nothing by the way)" -would you go?
Course you fucking would - every member on here would do it and anyone who says otherwise is lying out their arses.
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Let's be honest - if MD contacted you and said "okay, here's the deal - we'll pay you $4k a year to post on our website if you leave Getbig (who pay you nothing by the way)" -would you go?
Course you fucking would - every member on here would do it and anyone who says otherwise is lying out their arses.
For a shitty 4K a year are you kidding me? I make more on partypoker.net every month...
In the words of the dishonorable Shawn Ray.....
STRENGTH & HONOR
"1"
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Face it, it hurts. :-* The MD message board just snagged one of two or three worthwhile industry figures who are regular posters at Getbig. Now I wonder what they can do to entice Chick, Dan, etc...
MD is the best magazine in the business, has by far the best and most comprehensive (this is indisputable) contest coverage, and yes it has waaaaaaay too many ads (but who cares?), and the articles by "pros" are all ghost-written (probably necessity when dealing with non-professional writers), but it still kick's Flex's ass.
MD is also fast becoming the best bodybuilding site on the Web, founded on positive discussion of topics of interest to BODYBUILDERS, and with the participation of leading experts in the industry. It's also a place where you can post almost anything that anyone would reasonably want to post without getting banned (despite a few murky bannings, but that was in the past), notwithstanding the false impression being perpetuated.
The MD radio show is slightly inferior to PBW in terms of production values, but no longer in terms of guests. Sure, PBW had Jay Cutler on (Mr. Exciting himself!), but here's who has been on No Bull Radio in the past six episodes: Dennis Wolf, Shawn Ray, Flex Wheeler, Rich Gaspari, Victor Martinez, Victor Conte, Dexter Jackson, Melvin Anthony, Steve Weinberger, Iris Kyle, Gerard Dente, and more...
Shawn had a decision to make to either (a) stay and play with the teenagers on Getbig and have a laugh... often at his own expense (Getbig is the funniest site on the Web, imo) or (b) align himself with the rising star in the Bodybuilding world. He made the smart choice, as he always does!
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Let's be honest - if MD contacted you and said "okay, here's the deal - we'll pay you $4k a year to post on our website if you leave Getbig (who pay you nothing by the way)" -would you go?
Course you fucking would - every member on here would do it and anyone who says otherwise is lying out their arses.
Exactly - Beats workin for a livin !!
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As long as they don't try to steal Robert Michael Cicherillo, everything will be alright.
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Why are you still debating this?
BROS OVER HOES
What part of the above don't you understand?
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Why are you still debating this?
BROS OVER HOES
What part of the above don't you understand?
Spot on
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For a shitty 4K a year are you kidding me? I make more on partypoker.net every month...
In the words of the dishonorable Shawn Ray.....
STRENGTH & HONOR
"1"
isn't partypoker free?
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Why are you still debating this?
BROS OVER HOES
What part of the above don't you understand?
Quite frankly, I don't understand it at all, UNLESS you are trying to somehow correlate Shawn's actions to the statement "BROS OVER HOES" by insinuating that within the events that transpired the MD folk were considered to be Shawn's true Bros, while Ron was seen by Shawn as a Hoe, then maybe you can say that Shawn indeed left Ron to be with his bros... If I am wrong, correct me, but other than that view, I can't see why BROS OVER HOES would make any sense...
I just want to know if RON is fucking pissed about this betrayal. RON is a fucking god in this industry and one of the most influential people in the sport. RON called Jay Cutler's win a year and a half ago and BOOOOOOM!!!! Jay Cutler wins...
One flip of the eyelens by Ron and Shawn can be a homeless, black man without even enough change to buy a razor for his baldspot-stricken head...
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the MD contracts states as a writer shawn cant post on any other message boards,
not even under any of his gimmick accounts?
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not even under any of his gimmick accounts?
I certainly hope that isn't the case. I've grown quite fond of both Sgt. D & Hank Wood and would truly miss their presence here..
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come on now.
every time he tried to hawk something, there'd be a million posts raggin his ass. him and ron had to work overtime just to delete them all.
once he realised the getbig gallery wasn't buying his bs, he treated the board with contempt and just came on to stir up keith and others.
shawn ray has always only been about shawn ray. nothing else matters to him, not his friends, his compatriots, his wife, not even his mother. anyone is fair game and can be used, abused and sold in a heart beat.
having said that, why on earth would ray give a flying fuck about ron and his stupid site? all ron was to ray was a fat fuck with a website (no disrespect to the ronster. you a lean mean fightin machine to me bro ;D), a business partner who permitted shawn to use his site as a vehicle for his wares in return for the occasional post.
shawn's good bud, flex, is over at md and if blechman pays him, he'll be an even better bud.
this is bbing folks. pro bbers and ex pro bbers are bought and sold by the highest bidder, mr olympia titles aswell, apparently. :-X
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ofcourse he'll gimmick here, he's addicted to the attention and reading his name. LOL
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not even under any of his gimmick accounts?
theyre allowed to use gimmicks, tim. And the gimmicks typically drop anti-AMI stuff and talk up MD.
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It's real simple folks, if I don't care for Pepsi and one day Pepsi offered me money to say, "I like Pepsi" then guess what.....I now like Pepsi. It's not "fvck you Coke" publically....you just drink Coke on your own time and don't tell nobody about it and collect your little Pepsi check.
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Face it, it hurts. :-* The MD message board just snagged one of two or three worthwhile industry figures who are regular posters at Getbig. Now I wonder what they can do to entice Chick, Dan, etc...
MD is the best magazine in the business, has by far the best and most comprehensive (this is indisputable) contest coverage, and yes it has waaaaaaay too many ads (but who cares?), and the articles by "pros" are all ghost-written (probably necessity when dealing with non-professional writers), but it still kick's Flex's ass.
MD is also fast becoming the best bodybuilding site on the Web, founded on positive discussion of topics of interest to BODYBUILDERS, and with the participation of leading experts in the industry. It's also a place where you can post almost anything that anyone would reasonably want to post without getting banned (despite a few murky bannings, but that was in the past), notwithstanding the false impression being perpetuated.
The MD radio show is slightly inferior to PBW in terms of production values, but no longer in terms of guests. Sure, PBW had Jay Cutler on (Mr. Exciting himself!), but here's who has been on No Bull Radio in the past six episodes: Dennis Wolf, Shawn Ray, Flex Wheeler, Rich Gaspari, Victor Martinez, Victor Conte, Dexter Jackson, Melvin Anthony, Steve Weinberger, Iris Kyle, Gerard Dente, and more...
Shawn had a decision to make to either (a) stay and play with the teenagers on Getbig and have a laugh... often at his own expense (Getbig is the funniest site on the Web, imo) or (b) align himself with the rising star in the Bodybuilding world. He made the smart choice, as he always does!
Hi Steve!
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It's real simple folks, if I don't care for Pepsi and one day Pepsi offered me money to say, "I like Pepsi" then guess what.....I now like Pepsi. It's not "fvck you Coke" publically....you just drink Coke on your own time and don't tell nobody about it and collect your little Pepsi check.
Sellout.
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Sellout.
Damn right....I'd go to MD too if they offered me a check.
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Damn right....I'd go to MD too if they offered me a check.
Whore.
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Whore.
I'll be a whore all the way to the bank....with a big fuggin smile on my face.
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Speaking of being a whore all the way to the bank, does anyone know what the exact numbers of this deal between Shawn and MD is?
I keep hearing this 4K a month crap and if that's the case, a mere 48K a year, which after taxes is more like 30K is not a whole lot of money to work with...
Maybe Shawn should take up acting like Levrone and be a big time Hollywood star?
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I'll be a whore all the way to the bank....with a big fuggin smile on my face.
Hehe. We're all whores, that's a gimme. Just seems that you're willing to do it for less doremi. :D
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MD paying people to post on their board...think about how pathetic that is. The board sucks so bad, that they have to PAY people to post there. Around here we call that self-pwnage of cataclysmic proportions.
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MD paying people to post on their board...think about how pathetic that is. The board sucks so bad, that they have to PAY people to post there. Around here we call that self-pwnage of cataclysmic proportions.
I was actually makin my way to this exact post.....it is fvckin pathetic.
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MD paying people to post on their board...think about how pathetic that is. The board sucks so bad, that they have to PAY people to post there. Around here we call that self-pwnage of cataclysmic proportions.
Mindspin,
You wouldn't go as low as betraying the RON'ster for a few coins in the sack would ya?
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By the way, for whoever was the mod that changed my thread title from "Ron, tell us the truth" to "Ron, tell us the truth about Shawn Ray", thank you, I think it will receive more hits with the addendum..
Well played,
"1"
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Mindspin,
You wouldn't go as low as betraying the RON'ster for a few coins in the sack would ya?
GetBig is my humor for the day and an occassional outlet for my aggression. I wouldn't trade that for anything less than $100,000k/yr.
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...Deep down inside, do you feel betrayed by Shawn Ray?
No, I don't feel betrayed by Shawn Ray himself. Business is business. MD wants to pay him, that is great, and the only part I feel bad is that MD continues to create bad blood by putting in the contract not to post on Getbig, instead of working together for harmony.
...Can you truly say that after years of defending him, erasing bad posts about him, letting him have his way with this board, that you don't partially feel betrayed by the fact that he completely jumped ship and then turned his back on everything he stood for, believed in and, most important, you?
Shawn here or not on the board doesn't matter. I never had the board for the pros, I had the board for the fans. For honest discussion, good or bad. I went to Shawn's wedding, known him for 12+ years. Just because he is with MD doesn't mean no contact with him. We will still talk, eat lunch, etc.
...If the man spent years insulting MD and everything they stood for, swearing that he would never go that low, doesn't it surprise you that at the drop of a dime, he flips his wig and starts working for them?
A little. But if someone offered you 4 or 5K to post and write, why not? I don't blame him at all.
...I know you probably didn't pay Shawn Ray any money RON, but I'm pretty certain that if not for GETBIG, Shawn Ray would have been forgotten a long time ago, because this was his main medium for advertisement, not to mention for humiliation of others. The crap he would pull on Keith and others was downright wrong and no one ever gave him shit about it. Now, because of a few coins in the bag, like that of Judas Iscariot*, he would turn his back on the man (RON) who kept that pulse beating.. Think about it RON, if not for you, why else would anyone in the BB'game care about who Shawn Ray is. If not for him using this venue to keep his name alive, he probably would have never been offered this contract at MD.
True. While some say the boards are negative, it is usually someone who wants something to gain with it. Aka, Blechman. Blechman could easily have harmony, but he doesnt want to. Blechman spends tons of money for the website, I am having fun and enjoying the website. The turth is, the people who have posted, for good or bad, usually get the best deals, aka Shawn. Shawn knows that. Of course I promoted his stuff. And if he has another Muscle Camp, would probably promote that. If it does something good for bodybuilding, I still will promote it.
Face it, it hurts. The MD message board just snagged one of two or three worthwhile industry figures who are regular posters at Getbig. Now I wonder what they can do to entice Chick, Dan, etc...
Nuge, such a load of crap. It doesn't hurt. Do you think I lose sleep over it. Jeez. Your fiction is great, but everyone knows the truth. So let it go.
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Good Post Ron - After all its ONLY a posting board and if he chooses to tie himself to a lesser one .... Shawn Who?!
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RON you fucking diplomat, come on over and give me a hug!!
I had a feeling that you would smooth things out with a politically correct response, but at least some tidbits of truth can be seen with your response.
I know your business is one where you build great relationships within the bodybuilding industry and strive to bring the sport to a new dimension, but if STEVE BLEACHMAN takes over this industry, as he apparently is trying to do with getting every freaking name under contract, don't you feel that, once in absolute power, he will try to blackball YOU and all of your efforts to keep the sport moving forward?? (i.e. no more press passes for you, no pros to post on here at all) Steve Bleachman seems like a very vindictive guy who thinks he has to be the only boss.
RON YOU MADE THIS SPORT WHAT IT IS, WITHOUT YOU, IT WOULD BE NOTHING..
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Ron...class act as usual. BTW, when do I get my raise?
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Ron is too nice. Sean back stabs everyone at one point and more if possible. If he hasn't back stabbed you then you haven't met him or done business with him, so consider yourself lucky. Sean has been and always has been a piece of shit. His loyalty is to NO ONE. And I mean NO ONE. Vows mean nothing as does any kind of handshake or dealing. Vyotech lost their ass and will continue to do so as long as they have him onboard. It is better that he is gone. He sucks up over there at MD. The pussy really comes out.
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I know your business is one where you build great relationships within the bodybuilding industry and strive to bring the sport to a new dimension,
You do understand that Getbig is for the fans, and that it is not my business. I do work a full time job., actually 50+ hours a week. Getbig is for fun, for the fans, and as long as we have fun, I will be there, taking pictures, talking, writing about everything, and promoting the sport.
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"Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony
Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh lord, why dont we?"
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Ron...class act as usual. BTW, when do I get my raise?
hahaha ok "yemeni" ::)
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You do understand that Getbig is for the fans, and that it is not my business. I do work a full time job., actually 50+ hours a week. Getbig is for fun, for the fans, and as long as we have fun, I will be there, taking pictures, talking, writing about everything, and promoting the sport.
Ron, I'm sure you do know that your site is the AUTHORITY when it comes to bodybuilding and that if you were to ever decide to maybe set up a supplement store, provide slots for advertisements and maybe even throw a few RON AVIDAN classics throughout the year, you would never again have to worry about working and you'd probably be making millions of dollars every year the likes of bodybuilding.com.
Think about it Ron,
"1"
P.S. I'd like to apply for your Moderator training program.
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I'm in charge of that, you think you got what it takes big guy?
I'm willing to take a stab at it and by taking a stab at it, I mean it in the sense of how Sasha Ogata back"stabbed" Shawn Ray..
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...Deep down inside, do you feel betrayed by Shawn Ray?
...Can you truly say that after years of defending him, erasing bad posts about him, letting him have his way with this board, that you don't partially feel betrayed by the fact that he completely jumped ship and then turned his back on everything he stood for, believed in and, most important, you?
...If the man spent years insulting MD and everything they stood for, swearing that he would never go that low, doesn't it surprise you that at the drop of a dime, he flips his wig and starts working for them?
...I know you probably didn't pay Shawn Ray any money RON, but I'm pretty certain that if not for GETBIG, Shawn Ray would have been forgotten a long time ago, because this was his main medium for advertisement, not to mention for humiliation of others. The crap he would pull on Keith and others was downright wrong and no one ever gave him shit about it. Now, because of a few coins in the bag, like that of Judas Iscariot*, he would turn his back on the man (RON) who kept that pulse beating.. Think about it RON, if not for you, why else would anyone in the BB'game care about who Shawn Ray is. If not for him using this venue to keep his name alive, he probably would have never been offered this contract at MD.
Tell us the truth RON, deep down inside, don't you feel that Shawn is a fucking traitor?
*(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/0/04/250px-Judas.jpg)
Solid post, but everyone including Ron knows that friendships are often set aside when it comes to business and furthermore, Ron has a firm understanding that MANY people use his forum as a springboard to other things.
Ron gives for the spirit of giving and has been blessed with an abundance of riches as a result.
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...Deep down inside, do you feel betrayed by Shawn Ray?
...Can you truly say that after years of defending him, erasing bad posts about him, letting him have his way with this board, that you don't partially feel betrayed by the fact that he completely jumped ship and then turned his back on everything he stood for, believed in and, most important, you?
...If the man spent years insulting MD and everything they stood for, swearing that he would never go that low, doesn't it surprise you that at the drop of a dime, he flips his wig and starts working for them?
...I know you probably didn't pay Shawn Ray any money RON, but I'm pretty certain that if not for GETBIG, Shawn Ray would have been forgotten a long time ago, because this was his main medium for advertisement, not to mention for humiliation of others. The crap he would pull on Keith and others was downright wrong and no one ever gave him shit about it. Now, because of a few coins in the bag, like that of Judas Iscariot*, he would turn his back on the man (RON) who kept that pulse beating.. Think about it RON, if not for you, why else would anyone in the BB'game care about who Shawn Ray is. If not for him using this venue to keep his name alive, he probably would have never been offered this contract at MD.
Tell us the truth RON, deep down inside, don't you feel that Shawn is a fucking traitor?
*(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/0/04/250px-Judas.jpg)
Excellent post!
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Face it, it hurts. :-* The MD message board just snagged one of two or three worthwhile industry figures who are regular posters at Getbig. Now I wonder what they can do to entice Chick, Dan, etc...
Without a Schmoeconomics expert, that board goes nowhere.
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You do understand that Getbig is for the fans, and that it is not my business. I do work a full time job., actually 50+ hours a week. Getbig is for fun, for the fans, and as long as we have fun, I will be there, taking pictures, talking, writing about everything, and promoting the sport.
Hey Ron
Can I have Shawn's account?
;D
How much do you want for it?
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one more rep, sean rey never contributed anything worth while to the board anyway. good riddence
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Shawn is still here under his multiple gimmiks....
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one more rep, sean rey never contributed anything worth while to the board anyway. good riddence
That's not true... Whenever he wanted to burn Lee Priest, he would PM many members, under his other aliases Sgt. D & Hank Wood, with personal shit regarding his suspension that people would then use to get Lee all riled up.
Just a guess,
"1"
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Shawn is still here under his multiple gimmiks....
lol, any chance you could spill the beans? ;D
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Hey Ron
Can I have Shawn's account?
;D
How much do you want for it?
If he gives you Shawn's account and he doesn't give me Titus' like I asked for, I am gonna be pissed! >:(
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...Deep down inside, do you feel betrayed by Shawn Ray?
...Can you truly say that after years of defending him, erasing bad posts about him, letting him have his way with this board, that you don't partially feel betrayed by the fact that he completely jumped ship and then turned his back on everything he stood for, believed in and, most important, you?
...If the man spent years insulting MD and everything they stood for, swearing that he would never go that low, doesn't it surprise you that at the drop of a dime, he flips his wig and starts working for them?
...I know you probably didn't pay Shawn Ray any money RON, but I'm pretty certain that if not for GETBIG, Shawn Ray would have been forgotten a long time ago, because this was his main medium for advertisement, not to mention for humiliation of others. The crap he would pull on Keith and others was downright wrong and no one ever gave him shit about it. Now, because of a few coins in the bag, like that of Judas Iscariot*, he would turn his back on the man (RON) who kept that pulse beating.. Think about it RON, if not for you, why else would anyone in the BB'game care about who Shawn Ray is. If not for him using this venue to keep his name alive, he probably would have never been offered this contract at MD.
Tell us the truth RON, deep down inside, don't you feel that Shawn is a fucking traitor?
Shawn's just a damn 5'2" living breathing Troll Doll...let him go to MD..who cares?
(http://members.aol.com/studiocollector/images/troll%20raiders%20doll.jpg)