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Michael Lockett told me he eats 3 chicken/rice meals per day, and in between them all, he eats whatever he wants. Snickers, ice cream, potato chips, etc. Think that'd be a good diet to follow? If not for precontest, what about offseason? I mean if you're gonna get in all the chicken and rice meals, you can't eat too much of the other or else you're never gonna be able to stomach it. I think I may try this approach for awhile as I get back into my training.
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no.
he is a genetic freak.
you are not.
youw ill get fat, and it might inhibit your muscular gains as well. for many people, eating junk food lowers t-levels considerably.
the more fat you put on while "bulking", the longer you have to diet, so the shorter you have to "bulk", and the more muscle you lose while dieting because you have to lose more fat.
eat clean.
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Candidate knows everything about diets.
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Well I'm not suggesting that I could get ripped on it, but I bet it'd be a good way to make sure you had the calories to grow without an excess that'd cause you to get fat. I mean at the end of the day, if you still have the appetite for chicken and rice then you're probably not overeating. I guess you would just need to make sure your first and last meals of the day were the chicken and rice. Like if you pigged out on something after your 3rd chicken and rice meal at night, then you might not be able to eat chicken and rice first thing the next morning, or not until like noon.
Having these 3 meals as the backbone of your diet would also make it easy to transition into a real diet as you progress, too. Like 2 months into it you could take out some of the snacks and add like oatmeal and egg whites for another couple of meals. Or just one of them (still leaving room for just a little junk snacking), then after another month, switch over to all clean food meals.
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Candidate knows everything about diets.
he sure does ;D
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lee priest eats ice cream, donuts and kfc in the off-season.
king kamali eats a 100% clean bodybuilders diet year round.
king kamali gets fat and ugly. lee preist does too, but not to the extent of kamali.
why? different genetics.
you are not michael lockette. you might have a fast metabolism..which is awesome.. but you dont have his levels of testosterone or ability to pack on muscle.
take the amount of calories you would be eating with the three chicken/rice meals+junk food diet; and make all of those calories from chicken/rice. or as high a proportion as you can. you will gain a whole lot more muscle, and a whole lot less fat... then dieting time comes aroun, and you have to diet for less time, and you lose less muscle while dieting.
the benefits of eating clean in the offseason are exponential..
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lee priest eats ice cream, donuts and kfc in the off-season.
king kamali eats a 100% clean bodybuilders diet year round.
king kamali gets fat and ugly. lee preist does too, but not to the extent of kamali.
why? different genetics.
you are not michael lockette. you might have a fast metabolism..which is awesome.. but you dont have his levels of testosterone or ability to pack on muscle.
take the amount of calories you would be eating with the three chicken/rice meals+junk food diet; and make all of those calories from chicken/rice. or as high a proportion as you can. you will gain a whole lot more muscle, and a whole lot less fat... then dieting time comes aroun, and you have to diet for less time, and you lose less muscle while dieting.
the benefits of eating clean in the offseason are exponential..
Yeah but man I've got issues with satiety. You can stuff yourself with clean food and still have something missing. Just this hole in your gut that's still empty. I'm talking about maintenance of my sanity here. I've tried thinking it should be possible forever now, but dude it just doesn't work for me. Maybe I need to get my muscle mass up to a level that's near maxed out (for me) before I can eat cleaner. But when I start back training, there's just this hunger that come on that cannot be quenched by anything clean and it drives me crazy. I think it's a matter of me trying too much, too soon. Like going from 2 McDonald's meals and 5 doughnuts a day to 2 oatmeal/egg white and 3 chicken/rice meals per day. That is just too big of a switch for me. I can't handle it. I've always had this all or nothing mentality and I think I need to temper that quite a bit.
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lee priest eats ice cream, donuts and kfc in the off-season.
king kamali eats a 100% clean bodybuilders diet year round.
king kamali gets fat and ugly. lee preist does too, but not to the extent of kamali.
why? different genetics.
you are not michael lockette. you might have a fast metabolism..which is awesome.. but you dont have his levels of testosterone or ability to pack on muscle.
take the amount of calories you would be eating with the three chicken/rice meals+junk food diet; and make all of those calories from chicken/rice. or as high a proportion as you can. you will gain a whole lot more muscle, and a whole lot less fat... then dieting time comes aroun, and you have to diet for less time, and you lose less muscle while dieting.
the benefits of eating clean in the offseason are exponential..
can you post a pic to show youre a real bodybuilder, not some 18 year old kid regurgitating FLEX material?
no offense, but McF is pretty experienced at this stuff.
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Yeah but man I've got issues with satiety. You can stuff yourself with clean food and still have something missing. Just this hole in your gut that's still empty. I'm talking about maintenance of my sanity here. I've tried thinking it should be possible forever now, but dude it just doesn't work for me. Maybe I need to get my muscle mass up to a level that's near maxed out (for me) before I can eat cleaner. But when I start back training, there's just this hunger that come on that cannot be quenched by anything clean and it drives me crazy. I think it's a matter of me trying too much, too soon. Like going from 2 McDonald's meals and 5 doughnuts a day to 2 oatmeal/egg white and 3 chicken/rice meals per day. That is just too big of a switch for me. I can't handle it. I've always had this all or nothing mentality and I think I need to temper that quite a bit.
i have the sam all or nothing mentality. either i am addicted to something, or i dont do it at all.
what you need to do is have a nutrition realiztion. make yourself understand that eating clean foods=better mass gains and body composition. its not a myth, or a theory, or something that makes an insignificant amount of difference. its substantial.
once you understand this, it should be easy for you to focus your "all or nothing" energies into eating alot of good clean food.
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I'd probably be doing real good just to get in TWO clean meals per day for a while and just make sure I make it into the gym 4 days a week. That's probably where I should start.
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can you post a pic to show youre a real bodybuilder, not some 18 year old kid regurgitating FLEX material?
no offense, but McF is pretty experienced at this stuff.
what makes a real bodybuilder?
i am insanely huge? no. am i overly muscular? well, some females have told me so; but i regards to bodybuilding, no i am not. have i ever competed? no.
but do i live and breath bodybuilding 24/7? yes. am i more dedicated to bodybuilding than anyone ive ever known or met, and just as dedictaed as the pro's CLAIM to be in all of the magazines? yes. do i spend everyday studyign exercise theory and nutrition? yes.
do i read flex magazine? FUCK NO!
muscular development is the only mag worth readin....and my subscription ran out about 6 months ago..
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Don't forget, guys like lockett are on T3/HGH/Clen etc. It is easier for them to cheat.
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lockett isnt natural bullshit cant get that big without juice
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I'd probably be doing real good just to get in TWO clean meals per day for a while and just make sure I make it into the gym 4 days a week. That's probably where I should start.
NO. all or nothing. dont half ass this shit.
eat clean.. every meal every day. if your still hungry, eat more chicken, or more tuna, or more steak.
4 days a week is fine if thats what works best for your body
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what makes a real bodybuilder?
i am insanely huge? no. am i overly muscular? well, some females have told me so; but i regards to bodybuilding, no i am not. have i ever competed? no.
but do i live and breath bodybuilding 24/7? yes. am i more dedicated to bodybuilding than anyone ive ever known or met, and just as dedictaed as the pro's CLAIM to be in all of the magazines? yes. do i spend everyday studyign exercise theory and nutrition? yes.
do i read flex magazine? FUCK NO!
muscular development is the only mag worth readin....and my subscription ran out about 6 months ago..
I think the ability to become extremely conditioned is what makes you a good bodybuilder, and I honestly have never been there. Now complicating matters is my hesitation to let myself get fat/bloated again and I'm convinced that you need "seasons" in bodybuilding to truly get shredded. I've gotta let some things go here.
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I have never had a strict diet. I eat until 3 in the morning. Ice cream... cookies (you should see how many batches of cookies I bake and eat when stoned... I wont go there now) whatever.. As long as I get 150 grams of protein im cool. I'm under ten percent fat. I wokrout hard and work ten hour days. I believe my metabolism is high as fuck though. My dad is 54 and hes still 6'2 175 under 10 percent fat and never works out. Though he is diabetic and watches his diet and eats clean for the most part. I don't know where im going with this...
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NO. all or nothing. dont half ass this shit.
eat clean.. every meal every day. if your still hungry, eat more chicken, or more tuna, or more steak.
4 days a week is fine if thats what works best for your body
There's definitely a brand of hunger that can be present that would allow you to eat a whole chocolate pie but throw up if you had to eat one more can of tuna. Let's not act like it's as simple as you claim.
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Lockett substitutes colt 45 inbetween chicken and rice platters.
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what you are doing is rationalizing. you are making yourself believe something because its what you want to believe. i think underneath your rationilization lies the fear that if you challenged yourself to do what your rationiliziing that you dont have to do(get your diet in order), that you wont meet up to the challenge.
ignorance is bliss....and if you have never gotten ripped or tried dieting, you still believe that you can; its just a matter of when you WANT to do it.
heres the thing. you CAN do anything that you put you mind to. the challenge of eating clean is easy once you stare it in the face and accept it.
you can do it brotha. all or nothing....
make it happen.
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NO. all or nothing. dont half ass this shit.
eat clean.. every meal every day. if your still hungry, eat more chicken, or more tuna, or more steak.
4 days a week is fine if thats what works best for your body
All or nothing is exactly what's thrown me over the edge every time I start something up like this. I'm looking to implement a little healthy moderation here. The whole point of my thread is that your way doesn't work for me. Now in the last 8-12 weeks before a show, yes, all or nothing is the only way it can be, but just starting out, all or nothing can easily put your dick in the dirt. How do you go from 0-100 in zero seconds?
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There's definitely a brand of hunger that can be present that would allow you to eat a whole chocolate pie but throw up if you had to eat one more can of tuna. Let's not act like it's as simple as you claim.
that is not hunger. that is wanting to eat. theres a big difference. fat people never get nugry...they just eat all the time because they want to. they never have the self disipline to wait untill the are hungry to eat. they eat because they want to. if you have eaten alot of good food. you are no longer hungry. you just want to eat that chocolate pie.
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i heard locket can suck his own dick while fisting sevestases mom
and another story i heard is that he can fly...not very long but for a few seconds he is able to leave the ground
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i have the sam all or nothing mentality. either i am addicted to something, or i dont do it at all.
what you need to do is have a nutrition realiztion. make yourself understand that eating clean foods=better mass gains and body composition. its not a myth, or a theory, or something that makes an insignificant amount of difference. its substantial.
once you understand this, it should be easy for you to focus your "all or nothing" energies into eating alot of good clean food.
What the hell is "clean food" anyway? I do know what you mean, but there's really no such thing.
The main reason so-called junk food makes you fat is because it's easier to eat more calories that way. The converse is true for so-called clean foods.
BTW, junk food won't lower testosterone. The opposite is probably true. Actually lowering fat intake below 20-30% of calories will lower testosterone.
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the most effective way of getting anything done is to.......do it. get it done.
no point in pussy footing around.
in the words of ronnie coleman.."aint nuthin to it but to do it"..
in the words of franklin delano roosevelt "there is nothing to fear but fear itself"..
in the words of harry truman..."the buck stops here"
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candidate, let's see that photo of you with abs. not contest ready, just with abs.
and you should probably try going to the gym and practice bodybuilding instead of studying it.
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why did candid change his screenname?
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What the hell is "clean food" anyway? I do know what you mean, but there's really no such thing.
The main reason so-called junk food makes you fat is because it's easier to eat more calories that way. The converse is true for so-called clean foods.
BTW, junk food won't lower testosterone. The opposite is probably true. Actually lowering fat intake below 20-30% of calories will lower testosterone.
i guess my definition clean food would be lean proteins, low gi carbs, and healthy fats. ...foods that actually serve a bodybuilder with a purpose.
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I know this short black dude, who's probably juicer, eat loads of junk in front of me.. He's always ripped and at low bf, with huge full muscle bellies. Is he clean? Not with his size and epic 185 lb bb rows, but he's got insane genes.
Lockett is the same. Of course I don't think he's natural. But is he a freak in terms of being able to get away with things? Probably.
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Most peope I see getting notably ripped come down from a bloatier build.
For example, I actually think Adonis would be best served for the next Mr. Getbig by allowing himself to go up some more before cutting back down. Like, if he's been under 170 all this time, I'm thinking he'd be best served by at least allowing himself to eat his way up to 180-185 before coming back down.
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i like how mcfarland's pwning all you gurus here by asking for "advice" when he knows damn well no one in the peanut gallery can ever tell him shit he doesn't know and hasn't tried.
ha ha at all of you.
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i guess my definition clean food would be lean proteins, low gi carbs, and healthy fats. ...foods that actually serve a bodybuilder with a purpose.
Okay, let me show you an example since you mentioned the GI. The GI of table sugar is "low". The GI of rice or a baked potato is much higher. Is table sugar a better carb source than the "clean foods" I mentioned IYO?
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i like how mcfarland's pwning all you gurus here by asking for "advice" when he knows damn well no one in the peanut gallery can ever tell him shit he doesn't know and hasn't tried.
ha ha at all of you.
Nah, I'm simply "thinking out loud" here. The input is very appreciated. Dude it's possible to get lost in theory and lose touch with reality thinking too much about this stuff. Yeah I've been exposed to and tried alot of stuff but shit it helps to give other people the opportunity to help get you grounded again. I do wanna see Candidizzle's pics though when he's trying to tell me that cravings for junk food are just mental machinations. The craving for junk is REAL and I'm certain it has a physiological basis. Perhaps when you're first starting out you need incredibly dense calories to serve your growth needs. That's what I'm saying here. Going back into the gym I witness daily, sometimes hourly changes in my physique after having been doing it all this time and I bet your body likes having plenty of nutrition there to allow it to accomplish whatever it's ready to (at least in the beginning.)
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what the fuck are you babbling about are you high or something if you are hungry go fucking eat and stop being a bitch
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What I do is get stuck in a rut thinking that if I can't do everything 100% balls-out that I'd might as well not try anything. That's the mentality I'm trying to break out of.
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what the fuck are you babbling about are you high or something if you are hungry go fucking eat and stop being a bitch
OK I'm going to the gym.
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what the fuck are you babbling about are you high or something if you are hungry go fucking eat and stop being a bitch
settle down powerngloryhole, you're a queer.
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what the fuck are you babbling about are you high or something if you are hungry go fucking eat and stop being a bitch
All those big words got power gloryhole all angwy!
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i heard locket can suck his own dick while fisting sevestases mom
and another story i heard is that he can fly...not very long but for a few seconds he is able to leave the ground
haha thats more believable than that he is Natural as Mcfarland devoutly believes ;D
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haha thats more believable than that he is Natural as Mcfarland devoutly believes ;D
Well I wanna believe him. ;D
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Michael Lockett told me he eats 3 chicken/rice meals per day, and in between them all, he eats whatever he wants. Snickers, ice cream, potato chips, etc. Think that'd be a good diet to follow? If not for precontest, what about offseason? I mean if you're gonna get in all the chicken and rice meals, you can't eat too much of the other or else you're never gonna be able to stomach it. I think I may try this approach for awhile as I get back into my training.
why are you so insecure mr? after so many years in bodybuilding?
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I was thinking about this. Wether to now start bulking, or try to gain clean muscle over the next year.
Is it really possible to gain the same amount of muscle eating a clean diet rather than bulking up?
The way I see it, bulking is "safer" in terms of knowing that you're gaining muscle because your eating heaps, instead of risking not getting enough calories from clean food.
So I guess it does make sense to take the middle road and eat some junk food in between clean meals, to help with getting sufficient calories and also the cravings of the foods you like.
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Michael Lockett told me he eats 3 chicken/rice meals per day, and in between them all, he eats whatever he wants. Snickers, ice cream, potato chips, etc. Think that'd be a good diet to follow? If not for precontest, what about offseason? I mean if you're gonna get in all the chicken and rice meals, you can't eat too much of the other or else you're never gonna be able to stomach it. I think I may try this approach for awhile as I get back into my training.
Yes it works very well if you are active and wanting to gain muscle... That's what I do all offseason... 3 clean meals of chicken, tuna, or steak and the rest is whatever I want.. usually Baconaters from Wendys and pizza. lol. Try it.. it works. No pros eat "clean" like they say they do all year round. That's bullshit. The ONLY one that I believe eats clean a majority of the time now is Cutler because he's a fucking maniac like that. In his earlier days when he was my age (22) he lived off pizza and protein shakes.. that came straight from his mouth.
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why are you so insecure mr? after so many years in bodybuilding?
That's what you get outta that? ???
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That's what you get outta that? ???
yes. just like that guy who asked thommy boy what he ate back on musclemayhem 4 years ago
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i find it absolutely hilarious that these two guys are the ones giving the most nutritional advice in this thread. ::)
OMG Squad what were they thinking? ;D
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OMG Squad what were they thinking? ;D
hahahahaha, one looks like an obese pakistani Jonh Belushi with a fro and the others "physique" went from fat to skinny/fat in a matter of months and looks his clothes are sitting on a coat hanger when he wears them.
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hahahahaha, one looks like an obese pakistani Jonh Belushi with a fro and the others "physique" went from fat to skinny/fat in a matter of months and looks his clothes are sitting on a coat hanger when he wears them.
hahahhaahhahahhahhhahahaha
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hahahhaahhahahhahhhahahaha
seriously how hard would you fuccking laugh if you overheard one of those shitstains giving someone nutritional advice in real life?
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Haha they will never visit the board again.
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Michael Lockett told me he eats 3 chicken/rice meals per day, and in between them all, he eats whatever he wants. Snickers, ice cream, potato chips, etc. Think that'd be a good diet to follow? If not for precontest, what about offseason? I mean if you're gonna get in all the chicken and rice meals, you can't eat too much of the other or else you're never gonna be able to stomach it. I think I may try this approach for awhile as I get back into my training.
IMO any diet that has alot processed "foods" or empty calories is not good BBing or not......it's like pouring salt into a gas tank, eventually it stops running effeciantly.
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IMO any diet that has alot processed "foods" or empty calories is not good BBing or not......it's like pouring salt into a gas tank, eventually it stops running effeciantly.
tell that to Sergio Oliva.
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tell that to Sergio Oliva.
BBer's back during that day and age really IMO didn't know any better about nutrition.
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BBer's back during that day and age really IMO didn't know any better about nutrition.
then how did he build one of the best physiques of all time on pork and beans, cokes, cheeseburgers, donuts, pancakes, etc.?
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then how did he build one of the best physiques of all time on pork and beans, cokes, cheeseburgers, donuts, pancakes, etc.?
They didn't eat that way when getting ready for a show, and even thought they did eat those things, it wasn't as often as you might think.
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They didn't eat that way when getting ready for a show, and even thought they did eat those things, it wasn't as often as you might think.
how do you know? were you there with him?
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how do you know? were you there with him?
I was there with alot of them when I was kid training at Pearls gym in the mid to late 70's. Bill especially would stay away from junk food, he was a very strict lacto-ovo vegetarian.
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I was there with alot of them when I was kid training at Pearls gym in the mid to late 70's. Bill especially would stay away from junk food, he was a very strict lacto-ovo vegetarian.
wise man
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yeah i think gh plays a large role in how they are able to eat junk and stay lean
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I have never had a strict diet. I eat until 3 in the morning. Ice cream... cookies (you should see how many batches of cookies I bake and eat when stoned... I wont go there now) whatever.. As long as I get 150 grams of protein im cool. I'm under ten percent fat. I wokrout hard and work ten hour days. I believe my metabolism is high as fuck though. My dad is 54 and hes still 6'2 175 under 10 percent fat and never works out. Though he is diabetic and watches his diet and eats clean for the most part. I don't know where im going with this...
U can always post a pic to edify everyone
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I was there with alot of them when I was kid training at Pearls gym in the mid to late 70's. Bill especially would stay away from junk food, he was a very strict lacto-ovo vegetarian.
that wasn't what i asked you, i asked you if you were there to see what SERGIO OLIVA ate?
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that wasn't what i asked you, i asked you if you were there to see what SERGIO OLIVA ate?
forgive speedy gonzales SF he has an inferiority complex
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sergio olivia was a genetic freak with muscle mass equivelant to todays pros. and he wasnt using half the shit todays guys are using.
there are people in the world who eat as much as they want of whatever they want and they will never gain a pound of body fat. there bodies just wont store it. and then there are people who will store every thing over daily maintanence caloric needs as body fat. everyBODY is different. what works for michael lockette isnt going to work for an average bb'r. the coach is 100% dead on. you have to eat clean. if you want to grow big, just eat big AND clean.
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sergio olivia was a genetic freak with muscle mass equivelant to todays pros. and he wasnt using half the shit todays guys are using.
there are people in the world who eat as much as they want of whatever they want and they will never gain a pound of body fat. there bodies just wont store it. and then there are people who will store every thing over daily maintanence caloric needs as body fat. everyBODY is different. what works for michael lockette isnt going to work for an average bb'r. the coach is 100% dead on. you have to eat clean. if you want to grow big, just eat big AND clean.
hahahahahha, big and ripped like you right?
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yeah exactly. big and ripped like me. :)
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that wasn't what i asked you, i asked you if you were there to see what SERGIO OLIVA ate?
No, I wish. The closest I got to Sergio was seeing him guest post at the Orange County Muscle Classic in the 80's.......geez what a freak!!
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you can not grow on only clean food no matter if hormonized or not,,even if genetic respond to hormones is phenominal you can not grow on a 100% clean diet,,now one ever done it and no one ever will
i sit in sushi buffets when im in usa and back in europe 3 times a day sometimes eating so much sushi nd rice and salmons and tuna and any fish you can imagine with ell souce and some spicey mayo it is enough for a family of 4 ,,
if you always eat clean you will never be big you will maintain your 190lb 8% gym rat hormonized physiqe for ever
the problem of you guys is that you dont take every post i ever made here and write it on your walls because what i say on getbig is THE ONLY AND SINGLE WAY TO A NATIONAL REGIONAL BODYBUILDING STAGE
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you can not grow on only clean food no matter if hormonized or not,,even if genetic respond to hormones is phenominal you can not grow on a 100% clean diet,,now one ever done it and no one ever will
i sit in sushi buffets when im in usa and back in europe 3 times a day sometimes eating so much sushi nd rice and salmons and tuna and any fish you can imagine with ell souce and some spicey mayo it is enough for a family of 4 ,,
if you always eat clean you will never be big you will maintain your 190lb 8% gym rat hormonized physiqe for ever
the problem of you guys is that you dont take every post i ever made here and write it on your walls because what i say on getbig is THE ONLY AND SINGLE WAY TO A NATIONAL REGIONAL BODYBUILDING STAGE
bullshit. absolute bullshit. take the amount of calories you eat in one day from junk food, and replace it with an equal amount of calories from good bodybuilding foods and you will grow faster, and stay leaner.
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only way to do what you say is to drink 75% of your meals ,,you dont sit and eat 5000 calories a day of clean food,,no one does it no one will do it,,you cant get those 5000calories from completely clean food you will need dirt in it inorder to get it as high as 5000+ calories which are needed for growth if you have a work and active during typical day,,,you can grow on clean food if you sit home all day doing nothing but sleep train and hormonizing yuorself but even that will have limit
when you are new to bodybuilding you will grow on clean food ,,when your body max itself you can eat good clean clories from the mornining to evening but if you dont change your diet to include dirt in it and add on hormones you will NEVER SEE THE NUMBER 200LB AT SINGLE DIGIT BODY FAT AT NORMAL HEIGHT
now,,i understand you all exited about bodybuilding and all but the truth is you wont grow period you will remain within 10lb of your best shape with body composition change and that is it! you wont grow on 100% clean diet
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there are people in the world who eat as much as they want of whatever they want and they will never gain a pound of body fat. there bodies just wont store it. and then there are people who will store every thing over daily maintanence caloric needs as body fat.
Utter and total bullshit. Metabolisms do not vary that much. Some do stay leaner than others, yes. But ANYONE will put on bodyfat if you eat over maintenance, which does not vary THAT much. ANYONE.
Some people can eat whatever they want because their APPETITE regulates it in such a way that the total calorie consumption is comparatively low. We all know people who subsist on pizza and other "crap" without putting on bodyweight or fat. What these "freaks" forget to tell you is that they can go without eating anything at all half the next day so it all balances out.
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bullshit. absolute bullshit. take the amount of calories you eat in one day from junk food, and replace it with an equal amount of calories from good bodybuilding foods and you will grow faster, and stay leaner.
Define junk food.
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only way to do what you say is to drink 75% of your meals ,,you dont sit and eat 5000 calories a day of clean food,,no one does it no one will do it,,you cant get those 5000calories from completely clean food you will need dirt in it inorder to get it as high as 5000+ calories which are needed for growth if you have a work and active during typical day,,,you can grow on clean food if you sit home all day doing nothing but sleep train and hormonizing yuorself but even that will have limit
when you are new to bodybuilding you will grow on clean food ,,when your body max itself you can eat good clean clories from the mornining to evening but if you dont change your diet to include dirt in it and add on hormones you will NEVER SEE THE NUMBER 200LB AT SINGLE DIGIT BODY FAT AT NORMAL HEIGHT
now,,i understand you all exited about bodybuilding and all but the truth is you wont grow period you will remain within 10lb of your best shape with body composition change and that is it! you wont grow on 100% clean diet
then you just dont have a big appetite, there pal. 5000 cals is not alot of food.
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then you just dont have a big appetite, there pal. 5000 cals is not alot of food.
oh, brother. ::)
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Utter and total bullshit. Metabolisms do not vary that much. Some do stay leaner than others, yes. But ANYONE will put on bodyfat if you eat over maintenance, which does not vary THAT much. ANYONE.
Some people can eat whatever they want because their APPETITE regulates it in such a way that the total calorie consumption is comparatively low. We all know people who subsist on pizza and other "crap" without putting on bodyweight or fat. What these "freaks" forget to tell you is that they can go without eating anything at all half the next day so it all balances out.
have you ever seen "supersize me"? heinterviews a guy who eats at least three big macs everyday. its like his hobby. and the guy doesnt do shit physically, yet he is a twig. he has been eating big macs everyday of his life since he was 16. the guy is like 50 years old and as skinny as can be.
some people just do not store fat.
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have you ever seen "supersize me"? heinterviews a guy who eats at least three big macs everyday. its like his hobby. and the guy doesnt do shit physically, yet he is a twig. he has been eating big macs everyday of his life since he was 16. the guy is like 50 years old and as skinny as can be.
some people just do not store fat.
You need to learn some simple physiology. First of all, never ever trust a person to correctly self-report food consumption. This goes for both obese and thin people. Like onlyme saying he "doesn't eat that much". Like the skinny dude claiming he can't put on weight despite eating an all-junkfood diet. The skinny dude will "forget" to eat some days. The obese dude will forget to mention the snickers bars under his pillow. Afterall, they don't count as "meals".
The guy who ate 3 big mac's was eating at maintenance if he didn't gain. 3 burgers is not that many calories if he didn't eat anything else.
ANYONE will gain fat/weight if he eats a lot of food consistently. Consistently is the key word.
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then you just dont have a big appetite, there pal. 5000 cals is not alot of food.
sit down..one day...just one day
and record EVERY SINGLE macro nutrient you put on your mouth. I bet it'll barely be 3500 calories. You'll be surprised at just how much food 5000 calories is
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oh, brother. ::)
if your trying to eat big, it really isnt. you can get 1500 clean calories quite easily..for example, have scramble twelve whole eggs and eat three packs of weight smart oatmeal. thats about 1500 calories. and that is not alot of food to get down. you could easily get more in by toasting a piece of whoel wheat bread, spreading natural peanut butter on it.... instant breakfast mixed in whole milk...the options are endless.
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sit down..one day...just one day
and record EVERY SINGLE macro nutrient you put on your mouth. I bet it'll barely be 3500 calories. You'll be surprised at just how much food 5000 calories is
Exactly. People have a big problem with counting calories correctly.
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This discussion is ridiculous.
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sit down..one day...just one day
and record EVERY SINGLE macro nutrient you put on your mouth. I bet it'll barely be 3500 calories. You'll be surprised at just how much food 5000 calories is
well right now its going to be at 1900-2100 cals 'cuz im dieting. catch me on a cheat day or when im bulking and i could easily surpass any calorie count you want to throw at me. i have what is called B.S.D. ...or better known as 'bottomless stomach disorder"..hahah. which is why i used to be such a fat-ass. (about 45%bf a year and a half ago)
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if your trying to eat big, it really isnt. you can get 1500 clean calories quite easily..for example, have scramble twelve whole eggs and eat three packs of weight smart oatmeal. thats about 1500 calories. and that is not alot of food to get down. you could easily get more in by toasting a piece of whoel wheat bread, spreading natural peanut butter on it.... instant breakfast mixed in whole milk...the options are endless.
So what is your idea of clean and junk food? A lot of people would count peanut BUTTER as junk food. Eggs are high in fat and cholesterol too. Whole milk? Well, that's a bad food according to some clean food fanatics.
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I kept an excel spreadsheet on my daily calorie consumption... Even on days I partied, let loose and didn't care, ate whatever I wanted.. I hardly reached 4,000 calories.
5,000 calories is A LOT of food.
When I was making gains, I ate around 3,500. I ate clean, and 3,500 calories spead out over 6 meals wasn't easy.
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if you are eating junk food then 4000 calories would be an extremely easy target. large fries have anywhhere from 800 to 900 alories depending on the fast food place. the six dollar Double Western Bacon Cheeseburger has 1000 calories. three nacho cheese chalupa's with extra nacho cheese and extra beef come out to 1500 calories..
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Yesterday I got stoned and ate a box of oreos. A pint of ben and jerrys chocolate fudge brownie :( that alone was a zillion calories. A pissload of milkwith the oreos. And a large bag of cheeto twists. And that was all before 12 pm, then at about 1pm I made a batch of cookies. . Calories are easy to put away.. I don't typically eat much junk at all but it was all right there and I just didn't stop ;D AHahah it was the weekend.
BTW I have no idea what the point of this discussion is but I thought I'd throw 2 cents in.
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Yesterday I got stoned and ate a box of oreos. A pint of ben and jerrys chocolate fudge brownie :( that alone was a zillion calories. A pissload of milkwith the oreos. And a large bag of cheeto twists. And that was all before 12 pm, then at about 1pm I made a batch of cookies. . Calories are easy to put away.. I don't typically eat much junk at all but it was all right there and I just didn't stop ;D AHahah it was the weekend.
BTW I have no idea what the point of this discussion is but I thought I'd throw 2 cents in.
one box of oreo's= 2400 calories. one pint ben & jerrys chocolate fidge= 1040 calories. large bag cheetos twists= 1600 calories.
without the milk and the batch of cookies, your daily total as of 12 noon was at 5040 calories.
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one box of oreo's= 2400 calories. one pint ben & jerrys chocolate fidge= 1040 calories. large bag cheetos twists= 1600 calories.
without the milk and the batch of cookies, your daily total as of 12 noon was at 5040 calories.
Yes seems as though i'm going strict for the rest of the week.. I didn't think it was that much.
I'm going to be fat before long ;D
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bastard! >:(
lol. :)
fuck..life gave me the short end of the metabolism-stick forsure.
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Candidizzle you're headed for a meltdown.
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Candidizzle you're headed for a meltdown.
He's having an anxiety attack from Michael Lockett's supposed diet. :-X
Maybe he ought to do like Munzer and have a few valiums.
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He's having an anxiety attack from Michael Lockett's supposed diet. :-X
Maybe he ought to do like Munzer and have a few valiums.
No I'm serious he's due, like soon. ;D
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No I'm serious he's due, like soon. ;D
Isn't this the same guy who's admitted to stealing like thousands from his parents' checking account in order to buy coke? And I AM SERIOUS. :P
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Isn't this the same guy who's admitted to stealing like thousands from his parents' checking account in order to buy coke? And I AM SERIOUS. :P
Oh now I get it.
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Isn't this the same guy who's admitted to stealing like thousands from his parents' checking account in order to buy coke? And I AM SERIOUS. :P
Damn, his chick better leave quick, she might be found at the bottom of a lake with her bank account cleaned out due to him buying steroids and "clean food".
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Damn, his chick better leave quick, she might be found at the bottom of a lake with her bank account cleaned out due to him buying steroids and "clean food".
that guy nordicbeast posted the quotes.. Where is he when you need him?
I believe he made them when he still used the candidate nick. There were a number of other alarming statements, most of which I do not remember.
Someone who frequents the alphabet boards should be able to help me here.
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that guy nordicbeast posted the quotes.. Where is he when you need him?
I believe he made them when he still used the candidate nick. There were a number of other alarming statements, most of which I do not remember.
Someone who frequents the alphabet boards should be able to help me here.
haha someone called...
here are all the meltdowns you'll ever need-----------notice how 90% of them are canidate's ;D
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=162681.0
there are many gems like this there
from: candidate2025 on August 08, 2007, 01:26:31 PM
hey if you really want to pick a fight with me i willbe at the flex wheller classic. ill be at the golds gym working out, and at the pre-judging, expo, finals and after party.
ill even come on and let you guys know what time ill be at each place.
kick me off a bench huh? bitch.. i will tear your limbs from your body with my bare hands and then proceed to rotisserie cook and eat you for a post workout protein boost. cuz i dont give a fuck.
cops are too stupid to catch me, and you are to weak to stop me
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hahahaha! Thanks, dude!
Now everyone can see what I was talking about.. This candidate/candizzle cat is just plain weird and obcessive.
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candydate is an ok guy, jsut very opinionated and has a weird sense of humor that people often don't catch.
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aaawwwww now i feel all warm inside, haider. some GETS ME, really GETS ME!!
hahahaha.
yes i did do some really fucked up things in mypast....like steal over 10 thousand dollars form my parents and buy almost a kilo of coke with it..
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aaawwwww now i feel all warm inside, haider. some GETS ME, really GETS ME!!
hahahaha.
yes i did do some really fucked up things in mypast....like steal over 10 thousand dollars form my parents and buy almost a kilo of coke with it..
wtf did you do with a kilo of coke
please don't tell me you sold it in the hood..hahaha
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that wasn't what i asked you, i asked you if you were there to see what SERGIO OLIVA ate?
were you?
then stfu.
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i have decided i believe the michael lockett hype of him being "natural" and 2 cans of cokes and 4 twizzlers a day diet.
its not like his skip lacour and his profiting from this in any way (by claiming he is natural). just the opposite actually he's turnign people off because they think he is a liar.... whats the point then... to make up a big lie that doesn't benefit you in any way? it doesn't
he's just a brotha that has genetis the rest of us genetic averages out there will never comprehend.
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Michael Lockett told me he eats 3 chicken/rice meals per day, and in between them all, he eats whatever he wants. Snickers, ice cream, potato chips, etc. Think that'd be a good diet to follow? If not for precontest, what about offseason? I mean if you're gonna get in all the chicken and rice meals, you can't eat too much of the other or else you're never gonna be able to stomach it. I think I may try this approach for awhile as I get back into my training.
i just gained 6lbs reading that
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i have decided i believe the michael lockett hype of him being "natural" and 2 cans of cokes and 4 twizzlers a day diet.
its not like his skip lacour and his profiting from this in any way (by claiming he is natural). just the opposite actually he's turnign people off because they think he is a liar.... whats the point then... to make up a big lie that doesn't benefit you in any way? it doesn't
he doesn't want to be in the sights of the DEA like all the other pro BBers are probably in-------------its also probably an embarrassment to his family etc if they knew what he had to do just to be able to compete in BBing
people outside of BBing think steroids are cheating----but in pro BBing its like using a basketball in basketball ;)------
another possible reason might be that he's just plain dumb and doesn't realize how condescending it sounds to fans and other BBers
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candidate...show us the body that all of your nutritional knowledge has yielded, after all you said that you live the bodybuilding life stylle 24/7 ::)
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AHHAHAA OH MY FUCKING GOD DID CANDIDATE REALLY SAY THIS?
"what makes a real bodybuilder?
i am insanely huge? no. am i overly muscular? well, some females have told me so; but i regards to bodybuilding, no i am not. have i ever competed? no."
What the fuck female told you that? Some 8 year old you were stalking at the playground? High school wrestlers have more muscle than you bro and that is truth.
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wtf did you do with a kilo of coke
please don't tell me you sold it in the hood..hahaha
no i wasnt even smart enough to sell half at street price in order to re-cop..just chopped up and sniffed every boulder of the shit i bought.
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hahahaha! Thanks, dude!
Now everyone can see what I was talking about.. This candidate/candizzle cat is just plain weird and obcessive.
:D
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What I do is get stuck in a rut thinking that if I can't do everything 100% balls-out that I'd might as well not try anything. That's the mentality I'm trying to break out of.
Yes, thats exactly what I'd like to achieve as well. I find a strict bodybuilding lifestyle to retrictive on my social life and it takes away much of what makes life good. The trick is to find a balance.
CD
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AHHAHAA OH MY FUCKING GOD DID CANDIDATE REALLY SAY THIS?
"what makes a real bodybuilder?
i am insanely huge? no. am i overly muscular? well, some females have told me so; but i regards to bodybuilding, no i am not. have i ever competed? no."
What the fuck female told you that? Some 8 year old you were stalking at the playground? High school wrestlers have more muscle than you bro and that is truth.
what are you talking about man, this guy is a fuccking BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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wow candijizzerella is a goof. I like the post up above about him tearing someone apart limb by limb.... lol... he probably couldn't even tear his boyfriends condom wrapper
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He's a nice kid and makes an effort to learn and change his lifestyle. If u got a good tip u want to contribute with do it. If not stop insulting him.
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He's a nice kid and makes an effort to learn and change his lifestyle. If u got a good tip u want to contribute with do it. If not stop insulting him.
i'm not up on the kid so what's he up to? turning to jesus?