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I really wanna ask some questions to any u.s. soldier in here?
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Raises hand..
ok,how do you feel that your country is the most hated country in the world,and that your goverment feeds you with lies?i mean you put your life in the first line!do you actually believe the shit about terrorism?(no hate,just asking)
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we feel just fine. lots of people trying like hell to get into this most hated country in the world. why?
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I dont know if I would say that we are the MOST hated, but Im sure we are up there. And honestly I believe that ALL gov'ts lie to some extent. But dont get me wrong I dont belive in this war, I think we are here for all the wrong reasons. I hate my job (Convoys) with a passion. This will be the last time I come over here though because Im getting out. Its hard to explain I guess, I believe the govt lied about the situation in Iraq prior to the invasion to get the American public behind the cause, but it was all bullshit!
you're not the most hated,israel is number 1 in that list but the u.s. comes second!your answer honours you!i salute you! :)
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we feel just fine. lots of people trying like hell to get into this most hated country in the world. why?
they try to get in cause you're a rich country,iam sorry to tell you but the world hates you(your goverment).americans should do something about it!live your life,love your country.millions of innocents have died in wars without meaning(except money of course).they use you!thats all.thanx!
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I actually agree to a point. Our country is a prideful one. We like to pump our chest out when someone doesnt listen to us. We need to get in line with alot of the European countries on issues ranging from politics to the environment. Europe is a much nicer place to live without worrying about crime and shit like that. Of course you have your bad areas, but for the most part Europe is safe.
true!
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NOt a soldier, but most of the hate is pure jelousy of fantasy lives portrayed on American TV shows.
REAL America has - Lots of poor people living pathetic and hopeless lives.... ;)
Ive travled LOTs. I'll NEVER forget the priceless looks on the faces of a bunch of guys in the Lisbon night club who asked me what Holleywood BLvd is like... I told them there are homeless people sleeping in the bushes of the Ferrari dealership there at night...
It destroyed their dream of a dreamland.
The USA is headed downhill FAST IMO. Frankly a good exit strategy might be a smart idea for them w/ the buck$ to make it real...
I heard GW even bought a big spread down Patagonia way.
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NOt a soldier, but most of the hate is pure jelousy of fantasy lives portrayed on American TV shows.
REAL America has - Lots of poor people living pathetic and hopeless lives.... ;)
Ive travled LOTs. I'll NEVER forget the priceless looks on the faces of a bunch of guys in the Lisbon night club who asked me what Holleywood BLvd is like... I told them there are homeless people sleeping in the bushes of the Ferrari dealership there at night...
It destroyed their dream of a dreamland.
The USA is headed downhill FAST IMO. Frankly a good exit strategy might be a smart idea for them w/ the buck$ to make it real...
I heard GW even bought a big spread down Patagonia way.
Because the population is overrun with immigrants who contribute nothing of value to the society except more mouths for us to feed. I'm not big on telling people what they cannot do but if poor and illegal immigrant families did not have so many or any children here, it would make a big difference in the long run of government spending.
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NOt a soldier, but most of the hate is pure jelousy of fantasy lives portrayed on American TV shows.
REAL America has - Lots of poor people living pathetic and hopeless lives.... ;)
Ive travled LOTs. I'll NEVER forget the priceless looks on the faces of a bunch of guys in the Lisbon night club who asked me what Holleywood BLvd is like... I told them there are homeless people sleeping in the bushes of the Ferrari dealership there at night...
It destroyed their dream of a dreamland.
The USA is headed downhill FAST IMO. Frankly a good exit strategy might be a smart idea for them w/ the buck$ to make it real...
I heard GW even bought a big spread down Patagonia way.
You should also tell them about the countless stories of men and women who made great lives for themselves out of nothing and how virtually everyone has an opportunity to live well in this country.
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You should also tell them about the countless stories of men and women who made great lives for themselves out of nothing and how virtually everyone has an opportunity to live well in this country.
Yes, they could clearly see me; But they also need a dose of reality & truth about those who cant afford to travel.
OUr country is unsustainable as its opperating now, small matter of time.20yrs game over as you know it.
Trade FOREX?
Virtually everyone has a chance to live well compared to what?
I know "Poor" SE Asian villagers who lead much more satisfied lives than many of my customers in $400K - $1M Homes.
Next you'll tell me about "Freedom".... Yada Yada...
Average U$ Joe has freedom to chose Pepsi or Coke and be in debt to Visa or MC.
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Can anyone here remember a time when the world WASN'T about to fall apart?
It's always been teetering, yet we've always perservered. The minute the govt announces "everything is A-ok", something minor happens, and they get voted out for being complacent.
All leaders keep job security by keeping folks a little bit worried. Worried people vote for those who seem informed, and capable of fixing the perceived problem.
USA is hated at the moment in a lot of areas. Dollar is weak. But we have fingers in the snooch of every country in the world. Dollar is basis for oil trading. we're not going anywhere. Our kids and grandkids will be debating this same shit on getbig in 20 or 40 years, as President Chelsea seeks re-election. Relax.
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OUr country is unsustainable as its opperating now, small matter of time.20yrs game over as you know it.
I used to think that. Until recently. I realized the neocons are bad guys, but they're positioning us stronger with bases and pipeline.Think about it... hasn't it ALWAYS been unsustainable?
For every mnfg or tech advantage we've lost, haven't we put in a new military base on USSR's border or new pipeline into iraq?
Maybe our new sustainable competitive advantage ISN'T a product like a car or phd programs. Maybe the new advantage is global position or oil access? ;)
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Yes, they could clearly see me; But they also need a dose of reality & truth about those who cant afford to travel.
OUr country is unsustainable as its opperating now, small matter of time.20yrs game over as you know it.
Trade FOREX?
Virtually everyone has a chance to live well compared to what?
I know "Poor" SE Asian villagers who lead much more satisfied lives than many of my customers in $400K - $1M Homes.
Next you'll tell me about "Freedom".... Yada Yada...
Average U$ Joe has freedom to chose Pepsi or Coke and be in debt to Visa or MC.
Good guess. :) I will indeed tell you about freedom . . . yada yada. What a great country. Best in the history of the world in fact. So great and so free, that we allowed the leader of a country (Iran) whose people want us dead travel freely in our country and make speeches at our universities. I bet we provided protection for this guy at taxpayer expense too. Imagine Bush going to Iran to give a speech. lol.
The opportunities to earn a decent living, buy a home, raise a family, etc. are endless in this country. That's why we lead the world in immigration. That's why people flood our borders, legally and illegally, every year.
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a country (Iran) whose people want us dead
What % of Iranians want us dead, Beach Bum?
Ballpark numbers are fine. You're confident enough to speak for 70 million people you haven't met, so I'm guessing you have some good data to back up this claim.
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What % of Iranians want us dead, Beach Bum?
Ballpark numbers are fine. You're confident enough to speak for 70 million people you haven't met, so I'm guessing you have some good data to back up this claim.
lol. I don't know, 110? lol. Who the heck cares?
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lol. I don't know, 110? lol. Who the heck cares?
you brought them up. Then you made up a fact about them.
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What % of Iranians want us dead, Beach Bum?
Ballpark numbers are fine. You're confident enough to speak for 70 million people you haven't met, so I'm guessing you have some good data to back up this claim.
Are you Iranian?? ;D
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Are you Iranian?? ;D
lol. Probably. :D
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LOL... no, nuyork, i'm not iranian. And i'm fine with invading them if it makes the USA stronger.
I just don't like beach bum making up facts.
What % of Iranians want us dead, Beach Bum?
Ballpark numbers are fine. You're confident enough to speak for 70 million people you haven't met, so I'm guessing you have some good data to back up this claim
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lol. Probably. :D
Iranians are skinny! Look like light skinned ethiopians. Bitches are pretty dope though. Too bad they are haji's and have small dicks!
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LOL... no, nuyork, i'm not iranian. And i'm fine with invading them if it makes the USA stronger.
I just don't like beach bum making up facts.
What % of Iranians want us dead, Beach Bum?
Ballpark numbers are fine. You're confident enough to speak for 70 million people you haven't met, so I'm guessing you have some good data to back up this claim
Ah Perry Mason on the case again. I think I'm about wilt under his blithering cross-examination. I'm tongue-tied. Don't know what to say. . . . He has trapped me again.
But I'll be here all night . . . working again. :-\
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Iranians are skinny! Look like light skinned ethiopians. Bitches are pretty dope though. Too bad they are haji's and have small dicks!
LOL. ;D Quit dogging 240 man. You haven't been around here long enough. Pay your dues first. :D
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What % of Iranians want us dead, Beach Bum?
Ballpark numbers are fine. You're confident enough to speak for 70 million people you haven't met, so I'm guessing you have some good data to back up this claim.
Answer is --- NOt as many as want Amadjeh!@&*#! DEAD (Their asshole leader)
Yes I know a Iranian and their family (Got Out when Shaw was deposed, they are loaded) MOST Iranians would LOVE to have our standard of living.
Beach Bum - Your the kind of blind Parrot patriot that will get run over. Hope you've some undeveloped land on the Islands
there for the future inflation. Oh, make that developable land in our "Free" country ::) What is ours is not ours anymore in the land of the "Free". esp undeveloped land owned by a little guy.
I'd love to see your passport stamps guy, you aint seen that much I bet. Maybe Millitary tours that create a distorted viewpoint. Not knockin MIll Profs, but it gives the average GI a very distored world view of lands fucked up by US policy.
(Trust me I know plenty of Mill/ExMill ::) boys in some very wierd jobs ;))
Plenty of them chicken head & snake soup eaters cant stand to live in the USA anymore when they retire.
For those w/ wealth the USA is getting 2-Be a good place to be FROM. For those with nothing (SA Latinos etc) a good place to come to.
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I'm a soldier fire away.....but i must warn u first, I love my country...really don't give a rats ass about anybody but my fellow countrymen, realize that invading Iraq was first and foremost about OIL and whats in our stategic best interest. I have traveled everywhere and realize we are the best country despite our shortcomings and am in no way brainwashed. Flame on dude.
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Answer is --- NOt as many as want Amadjeh!@&*#! DEAD (Their asshole leader)
Yes I know a Iranian and their family (Got Out when Shaw was deposed, they are loaded) MOST Iranians would LOVE to have our standard of living.
Beach Bum - Your the kind of blind Parrot patriot that will get run over. Hope you've some undeveloped land on the Islands
there for the future inflation. Oh, make that developable land in our "Free" country ::) What is ours is not ours anymore in the land of the "Free". esp undeveloped land owned by a little guy.
I'd love to see your passport stamps guy, you aint seen that much I bet. Maybe Millitary tours that create a distorted viewpoint. Not knockin MIll Profs, but it gives the average GI a very distored world view of lands fucked up by US policy.
(Trust me I know plenty of Mill/ExMill ::) boys in some very wierd jobs ;))
Plenty of them chicken head & snake soup eaters cant stand to live in the USA anymore when they retire.
For those w/ wealth the USA is getting 2-Be a good place to be FROM. For those with nothing (SA Latinos etc) a good place to come to.
What exactly would seeing my passport prove? I've been to Tijuana. We live much better than those guys.
Whatever so-called worldwide hatred of America exists is trumped by the millions of people migrating to this country. Land of the free, home of the brave mang. How's that for parroting?
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They can hate us all they want as long as they buyt our crap and invest. This is all BS anyway. People are dying to come here. We have a great standard of living as compared to anybody OUR size. We can't duplicte a Norway or Sweden because of their size but they also get taxed to death. As far as freedon, what can't u do? What freedoms are being crushed. World wide we're all slaves to consumerism, who isn't. I'm headed to Japan in December, ur going to tell me they're not slaves to the latest technology.
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I'm a soldier fire away.....but i must warn u first, I love my country...really don't give a rats ass about anybody but my fellow countrymen, realize that invading Iraq was first and foremost about OIL and whats in our stategic best interest. I have traveled everywhere and realize we are the best country despite our shortcomings and am in no way brainwashed. Flame on dude.
No flame friend, I'm a conservative and patriot, but IM GONE in the future.
There's greener pastures. Writings on the wall. Ill drink with some of your Bros who don't want to go back either.
After spending 20yrs in SE Asia, some just don't fit in the states anymore is the way they feel.
IMO our country is Fucked by the bureaucrats beyond repair. Illegals aliens, everything regulated beyond belief, no regard for small private landowners rights. It aint gonna get better tahts for sure.
20yrs from now Govt spending on public health alone will exceed GDP. that's JAO's own figures.
The Smart Money will be long gone before that.
There's SO much Bureacracy that the system is hobbled. Its breaking down.
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We've survived far worse then any of this. As far as vets go...many become disillusioned with life period. America has very little to do with it. Regulation has gotten out of control..but its like that everywhere. A conservative repub is the only hope to change that.
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We've survived far worse then any of this. As far as vets go...many become disillusioned with life period. America has very little to do with it. Regulation has gotten out of control..but its like that everywhere. A conservative repub is the only hope to change that.
Youre delusional if you think a conserv rep will change anything. They will keep our country in the stagnant state it is in now. Conserv rep's ruined our economy and our military the last 6 years!
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Bush is in no way a Conservative and is barely a Republican. Our economy has its ups and downs but i'm not an economist and generally don't debate that crap here. The military on the other hand....the Clinton admin did far worse damage to our military..far worse. We'll rebuild after Iraq. It will take time...but if a flaming dem gets in, it will be that much harder.
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Bush is in no way a Conservative and is barely a Republican. Our economy has its ups and downs but i'm not an economist and generally don't debate that crap here. The military on the other hand....the Clinton admin did far worse damage to our military..far worse. We'll rebuild after Iraq. It will take time...but if a flaming dem gets in, it will be that much harder.
So I suppose getting 3000+ of MY brothers and sisters in arms killed for nothing is better than what Clinton has done...last I knew Cliniton didnt get us into a un-winnable war... ::)
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They can hate us all they want as long as they buyt our crap and invest. This is all BS anyway. People are dying to come here. We have a great standard of living as compared to anybody OUR size. We can't duplicte a Norway or Sweden because of their size but they also get taxed to death. As far as freedon, what can't u do? What freedoms are being crushed. World wide we're all slaves to consumerism, who isn't. I'm headed to Japan in December, ur going to tell me they're not slaves to the latest technology.
I simply prefer less developed countries with less law/regulations and more personal freedom.
No I wouldn't want to be a poor person there, but I cant even build a garden shed here anymore with out a major
political battle and I'm locally well connected.
Medical care in the USA is a JOKE. Bangkok has superior care. I'm dead serious.
My life is mine, Ive had enough restrictions placed and freedoms lost in the last years.
Being in Biz for yourself and making money is one of the only things the USA has going for it and thats pretty much been regulated to death also.
Yes theres plenty of poor folks that want to come here, but theres plenty of wealthy that live very well that dont.
Theres a much bigger disparity but I aint exactly gona be eatin out of a dumpster.
History has shown that them that get while the gettin's good were smart.
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Bush is in no way a Conservative and is barely a Republican. Our economy has its ups and downs but i'm not an economist and generally don't debate that crap here. The military on the other hand....the Clinton admin did far worse damage to our military..far worse. We'll rebuild after Iraq. It will take time...but if a flaming dem gets in, it will be that much harder.
Just curious what Billy Bob Clinton did that was bad.
Im not millitary, so Ill take your word.... I know he was not popular
with what I'd call "Real Soilders" seemed a understatment.
But Im seeing a lot of pain for nothing in Iraq IMO, but I aint been there nor am I making it a stop.
The USA is not hated in my destination BTW. We'z prolly the favorite tourist flavor there.
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Just curious what Billy Bob Clinton did that was bad.
Im not millitary, so Ill take your word.... I know he was not popular
with what I'd call "Real Soilders" seemed a understatment.
But Im seeing a lot of pain for nothing in Iraq IMO, but I aint been there nor am I making it a stop.
The USA is not hated in my destination BTW. We'z prolly the favorite tourist flavor there.
Im not sure what he did that is so bad either. He wasnt popular with the military retards that dont know how to think for themsleves. Those of us that can liked him. There is enirely too much pain here in Iraq for NOTHING!
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I guess u were in then..are u still in. How many tours etc..rank. I just need a base with which to continue the debate. Trab..he treated the military like a social experiment
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I guess u were in then..are u still in. How many tours etc..rank. I just need a base with which to continue the debate. Trab..he treated the military like a social experiment
Yes I was in when Clinton was in office and yes I am still in. I have been deployed all over the world including 3 tours in Iraq (currently here). And I will tell you we might not have gotten as big of raises while Clinton was in office, but since this damn war started we havent gotten shit either so who gives a shit about that.
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I guess u were in then..are u still in. How many tours etc..rank. I just need a base with which to continue the debate. Trab..he treated the military like a social experiment
The Spec OP boys I met in the SE Asia bars hated him. Bitterly. ;)
What a bar full of fun.
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The Spec OP boys I met in the SE Asia bars hated him. Bitterly. ;)
What a bar full of fun.
Funny how everyone says they are SFS when they are in bars...my oh my!
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Yes I was in when Clinton was in office and yes I am still in. I have been deployed all over the world including 3 tours in Iraq (currently here). And I will tell you we might not have gotten as big of raises while Clinton was in office, but since this damn war started we havent gotten shit either so who gives a shit about that.
I was just at a reserve Buddys welcome home party and I was surprised at all the tax free bonus his wife told me they got. Seemed pretty nice realy. Cant put a price on risk, but Im surprised he got as much as he did.
Only fair, and even a little more wouldnt hurt a thing IMO.
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Funny how everyone says they are SFS when they are in bars...my oh my!
Ummm... I dont think 12 mill boys all dressed up and got matching rings to go party in Chaing Mai...
Oh, the girls knew them all well from prior.
What you up to?
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Wll I've done two tours and been in going on 15 years, in two services. I disagree about Clinton. He sucked. I did the Bosnia thing and am still wondering about that one. I was also pretty sour about eveything as regards the war when I was deployed so I kinda know how u feel. I'll be headed back within two years. Nobody cares about us, I don't expect much outa anybody at this point. What Service?
Trab..like NY said..eveybody is SF. I love running into these guys. U can't start interrogating them right away..I just start off slow. What base etc....what MOS..how long..where were u at...then if they get past all that..what group or Batt. I know enough folks to cover all the SF groups and a few Ranger Batts....Most don't get that far ::). U can tell right away anyway. Most guys will never say a word about it anyway.
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Ummm... I dont think 12 mill boys all dressed up and got matching rings to go party in Chaing Mai...
Oh, the girls knew them all well from prior.
What you up to?
Im not saying they were lying, but I just hear s many tools talk about how they are SFS and they are fucking clerks or some shit. ;D
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I give u that some guys are still rolling around SE Asia but ..... there is plenty of work for guys like that over there so. I'd belive it more there then in a bar in the States anyway.
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How come nobody was a Bulk Fuel specialist.
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I give u that some guys are still rolling around SE Asia but ..... there is plenty of work for guys like that over there so. I'd belive it more there then in a bar in the States anyway.
Word!
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I give u that some guys are still rolling around SE Asia but ..... there is plenty of work for guys like that over there so. I'd belive it more there then in a bar in the States anyway.
That was before 9/11, they prolly all dead.
Philipines and S thailand has Islamic insurgency. Philipines in particular cant be ignored.
I doubt its been totally cleaned out. Some of The spooks up north Thailand stick out kind of bad too.
Guess Thats called semi-retirment. I think it pays better.
Lots allways going on there. That border cant be ignored.
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I have a buddy who did the Phillipines in 2001..nobody remembers that part of OEF. They got alot done because of that.
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Those mercinaries are some crazy/stupid mother fuckers!
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They are a dying breed..its all "contractor's' now adays and they aren't going away anytime soon.
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They are a dying breed..its all "contractor's' now adays and they aren't going away anytime soon.
Wouldnt be so sure of that. BW is catching hell, and Im sure others arent far behind them
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Blackwater has gotten in some trouble but the bottom line is that they have never lost a principle. This phenomenon is here to stay is ome form or another. The corp structure is the best way for these guys to stay viable. The problem with Blackwater is that they're SEAL based while Triple Canopy is SF based. Seals are cowboys
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Plus they arent held accountable like we are to the UCMJ for what they do. And are great at covering shit up! :o
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Yeah....