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Title: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on November 07, 2007, 09:43:44 AM
Phil Heath, guy . . .

http://www.photoreflect.com/pr3/OrderPage.aspx?pi=0R0S000M000223&po=223
Title: Phil heath looking like a major threat.
Post by: Livewire on November 07, 2007, 09:58:26 AM
Some weaknesses are becomming more obvious - the midsection bulges a bit, and we're beginning to see the right side of his body look a bit bigger than the left.  But he's looking insane.
Title: Re: Phil heath looking like a major threat.
Post by: MikeThaMachine on November 07, 2007, 10:00:01 AM
Is this from the show WisconsinBB was judging at, if so he wasn't lying about him looking crazy huge :o
Title: Re: Phil heath looking like a major threat.
Post by: delta9mda on November 07, 2007, 10:00:56 AM
he is off season and "fat". you cant tell anything about him till he diets down. huge arms and kinda narrow like s. ray.  he will be successful for a long time in bb.
Title: Re: Phil heath looking like a major threat.
Post by: Livewire on November 07, 2007, 10:10:37 AM
he is off season and "fat". you cant tell anything about him till he diets down. huge arms and kinda narrow like s. ray.  he will be successful for a long time in bb.

agreed.  ches tlooking a little bunched up, and we're starting to see an imbalance between left and right pecs.  i'd place him above Cutler in most shows tho.  less flaws.
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: MAXX on November 07, 2007, 10:12:11 AM
Phil is on slin  :D

looking humongus. those arms must measure 24 inches  :o
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Livewire on November 07, 2007, 10:13:11 AM
Phil is on slin  :D


is this your first rodeo?
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Man of Steel on November 07, 2007, 10:15:04 AM
Here we go again....the new bb boytoy of the moment is Phil Heath....."Jay beware" LOL!!  3 weeks ago the board was littered with "Wolfe is the king" bullshit threads and only months before that I didn't have enough fingers and toes to count the Mustafa threads praising him as the next Mr. O.


Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: MAXX on November 07, 2007, 10:17:05 AM
Here we go again....the new bb boytoy of the moment is Phil Heath....."Jay beware" LOL!!  3 weeks ago the board was littered with "Wolfe is the king" bullshit threads and only months before that I didn't have enough fingers and toes to count the Mustafa threads praising him as the next Mr. O.



who's saying he's the next mr o. just saying he looks freaky as hell and has made some huge gains.
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: bigbiceps on November 07, 2007, 10:20:41 AM
Here we go again....the new bb boytoy of the moment is Phil Heath....."Jay beware" LOL!!  3 weeks ago the board was littered with "Wolfe is the king" bullshit threads and only months before that I didn't have enough fingers and toes to count the Mustafa threads praising him as the next Mr. O.




Mustafa was last year a few months ago it was Toney Freeman and of course Victor Martinez. 
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Livewire on November 07, 2007, 10:26:20 AM
Here we go again....the new bb boytoy of the moment is Phil Heath....."Jay beware" LOL!!  3 weeks ago the board was littered with "Wolfe is the king" bullshit threads and only months before that I didn't have enough fingers and toes to count the Mustafa threads praising him as the next Mr. O.

yeah, but phil is signed with weider, which means he CAN win.  Just like Freeman, Melvin, JoJ.. the small group of people with a chance.

Blechman pissed all over weider last year, remember?  MD guys get screwed at the O from now on. 
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Rearden Metal on November 07, 2007, 10:54:20 AM
Seriously, he looks unreal big for an aesthetic guy. He'll beat Vic and push Jay very hard.
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 07, 2007, 11:05:34 AM
if it's not photoshopped than my jaw hit the floor...jesus..I'm starting to side with milos on insulin here. On a side note...I'd stop training everything except chest for 1 offseason to try to bring it up somehow...he definetely should put arm training to rest.
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: wisconsinBB on November 07, 2007, 11:07:02 AM
if it's not photoshopped than my jaw hit the floor...jesus..I'm starting to side with milos on insulin here. On a side note...I'd stop training everything except chest for 1 offseason to try to bring it up somehow...he definetely should put arm training to rest.

I was there judging, so I was right up front.  There is NO photoshopping there.  Even that pic doesnt do him justice.  He was waaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger than I thought he would be.
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Livewire on November 07, 2007, 11:11:52 AM
if it's not photoshopped than my jaw hit the floor...jesus..I'm starting to side with milos on insulin here. On a side note...I'd stop training everything except chest for 1 offseason to try to bring it up somehow...he definetely should put arm training to rest.

i'm not sure what he can do for that chest.  It's already filled out.  The problem is the borders - the tie-ins with the shoulder, etc.  He's a narrow man.  The thicker it gets, the more bunched up they'll become.  He will never have a vic martinez or cutler-ish "wide" greek ideal chest.  It'll always be bunched.

Arms are out of this world though.
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on November 07, 2007, 11:15:28 AM
omg is this real? wow!!!  :o :o
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 07, 2007, 11:16:25 AM
I was there judging, so I was right up front.  There is NO photoshopping there.  Even that pic doesnt do him justice.  He was waaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger than I thought he would be.
it's not just bigger....he's cartoonish now. I'm trying to be objective here even though I admire his build.
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: JasonH on November 07, 2007, 11:17:02 AM
Wow - Heath looking awesome! Will be intereseting to see what he's gonna look like in contest shape.
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: MindSpin on November 07, 2007, 11:17:12 AM
From the looks of those pics, it looks like he has "fully" committed to doing what it takes.  Hope it's worth it.
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Meso_z on November 07, 2007, 11:20:46 AM
looks insane....
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Livewire on November 07, 2007, 11:23:09 AM
From the looks of those pics, it looks like he has "fully" committed to doing what it takes.  Hope it's worth it.

Dude, I'd kill to hear your educated guess on what he's on right now.  You know your stuff (and what pros do) way more than most people.  Please share your guess!
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: dragonheart on November 07, 2007, 11:27:53 AM
you guys are forgetting phil is too scared to compete at the olympia.
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Livewire on November 07, 2007, 11:30:19 AM
you guys are forgetting phil is too scared to compete at the olympia.

oh he did not.


thegift, you been called out son!

 :o
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on November 07, 2007, 11:32:03 AM
Dude, I'd kill to hear your educated guess on what he's on right now.  You know your stuff (and what pros do) way more than most people.  Please share your guess!
phil's on fast lane to the top
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Tigerman on November 07, 2007, 11:39:07 AM
Holy shit! Forget the aesthetic guy thing, this is a legit mass monster. His obliques have exploded and that is not a surprise, they were protruding already when he was smaller.
Arms look almost like Lee Priest's  :o
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Man of Steel on November 07, 2007, 11:55:45 AM
who's saying he's the next mr o. just saying he looks freaky as hell and has made some huge gains.

Refer to the title of the thread.....thanks.
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Pollux on November 07, 2007, 11:58:05 AM
I for one vote for Phil Heath over Jay Cutler!
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Man of Steel on November 07, 2007, 12:04:47 PM
Fvck Phil Heath....how bout that.
Title: Re: Phil heath looking like a major threat.
Post by: dorkeroo on November 07, 2007, 12:05:37 PM
Some weaknesses are becomming more obvious - the midsection bulges a bit, and we're beginning to see the right side of his body look a bit bigger than the left.  But he's looking insane.

His arms are looking kind of small. Maybe he should consider ditching the natural route for a more chemically enhanced physique?
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Ron on November 08, 2007, 11:26:11 AM


Phil Heath looks like he is just under 270 pounds, and is still being trained by Hany Rambod. As with Phil training with Jay... I think he has worked out with Jay when he comes out to Las Vegas, but not on a regular basis.

Phil has flown a number of times to Northern California to see Hany.  He actually has been seen at Santana Row doing some shopping. I wonder if it is for him or his wife...
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: wisconsinBB on November 08, 2007, 11:27:45 AM

Phil Heath looks like he is just under 270 pounds, and is still being trained by Hany Rambod. As with Phil training with Jay... I think he has worked out with Jay when he comes out to Las Vegas, but not on a regular basis.

Phil has flown a number of times to Northern California to see Hany.  He actually has been seen at Santana Row doing some shopping. I wonder if it is for him or his wife...


Right on Ron, he said he was 268 on saturday!
Title: Re: Phil heath looking like a major threat.
Post by: Matt C on November 08, 2007, 12:20:15 PM
he is off season and "fat". you cant tell anything about him till he diets down. huge arms and kinda narrow like s. ray.  he will be successful for a long time in bb.

Even "fat" he is under 10%.
Title: Re: Phil heath looking like a major threat.
Post by: wisconsinBB on November 08, 2007, 12:49:00 PM
Even "fat" he is under 10%.

As impressive as he is, i doubt he's under 10 % there.
Title: Re: Phil heath looking like a major threat.
Post by: candidizzle on November 08, 2007, 01:46:57 PM
As impressive as he is, i doubt he's under 10 % there.
honestly? to me he looks to be about 8 or at the most 9 %....but im hardly an expert
Title: Re: Phil heath looking like a major threat.
Post by: punk_rockerX on November 08, 2007, 02:19:06 PM
Even "fat" he is under 10%.
damn, matty didn;t excel in math.  i'll help 268 - 26.8 (10%) = 241.2 lean body mass... 27.2lbs increase since 07 ASC.  trueth is who cares... phil looks freaky and is taking care of biz.  hell yeah!!
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Bobby on November 09, 2007, 03:59:26 AM
He's not fat at all, just holding a ton of water. i would guess single digit BF 8-10%ish
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Mazda323 on November 09, 2007, 04:09:40 AM
He is huge but full of water as Bobby said.
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 09, 2007, 04:28:24 AM
what company is phil heath with?
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: alejandro_torres on November 09, 2007, 05:13:00 AM
metrx
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Cold on November 09, 2007, 05:16:33 AM
Oh lord. I suspect he will make a serious run at the Sandow this year, then after that his body will take a beating. He has put on size faster than the past Mr. O's, which makes me a little worried.
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Nordic Beast on November 09, 2007, 12:32:40 PM
WOW!!!

he looks huge----------------even his face grew tremendously ;)

mindspin is right---it does appear he is going all the way with what it takes to make it in pro BBing



Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Alex23 on November 09, 2007, 12:43:59 PM

Phil Heath looks like he is just under 270 pounds, and is still being trained by Hany Rambod. As with Phil training with Jay... I think he has worked out with Jay when he comes out to Las Vegas, but not on a regular basis.

Phil has flown a number of times to Northern California to see Hany.  He actually has been seen at Santana Row doing some shopping. I wonder if it is for him or his wife...


Hahah good old San jose's Santana Row.. used to live a couple blocks from there...

Maybe he was shopping for Hany.


Pretty amazing offseason packup. However, still needs: back, width and ticker chest.
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Jerryme7 on November 09, 2007, 12:44:59 PM
Phil Heath= the Future Mr Olympia
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Alex23 on November 09, 2007, 12:46:31 PM
Phil Heath= the Future Mr Olympia

Jerryme7 = inspirational natural. Still amazed how good and esthetic you looked bro. ;D
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: AntonioC on November 09, 2007, 06:08:59 PM
Phil vs Dennis for 2010 Olympia
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Alex23 on November 09, 2007, 06:09:43 PM
Phil vs Dennis for 2010 Olympia

Who is Dennis?
Title: Re: Phil heath looking like a major threat.
Post by: Purge_WTF on November 09, 2007, 06:11:18 PM
Some weaknesses are becomming more obvious - the midsection bulges a bit, and we're beginning to see the right side of his body look a bit bigger than the left.  But he's looking insane.

  Palumboism imminent.
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 09, 2007, 06:14:02 PM
He's not fat at all, just holding a ton of water. i would guess single digit BF 8-10%ish

I'm still amazed at how someone can look at a picture and accurately break down a bbers muscle/fat/water ratio. you guys are amazing
Title: Re: Goodbye Jay Cutler, Hello Phil Heath for 2008!
Post by: Alex23 on November 09, 2007, 06:16:04 PM
I'm still amazed at how someone can look at a picture and accurately break down a bbers muscle/fat/water ratio. you guys are amazing

Groink, these guys are all mobile labs/human fat calipers.

I'm actually surprised you haven't caught up on it yet...

Are you getting naive big guy? ;D