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Title: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 08:41:31 AM
I read in md that aspirin has effects which limit muscle growth.  Is this true?
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: ManBearPig... on November 11, 2007, 08:48:31 AM
ha ha, we got a live one here.

oh brother, just go ahead and take the damn aspirin pill to ease your headaches from the skull fucking you received from your Columbian top bear Rico.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 08:56:18 AM
ha ha, we got a live one here.

oh brother, just go ahead and take the damn aspirin pill to ease your headaches from the skull fucking you received from your Columbian top bear Rico.

stop it dad.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: MAXX on November 11, 2007, 08:57:59 AM
I read in md that aspirin has effects which limit muscle growth.  Is this true?
yes its true. you must live on that stuff no?
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 09:11:46 AM
yes its true. you must live on that stuff no?

i take an 81 mg every day, yes.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: tomgreynolds on November 11, 2007, 09:33:34 AM
Yes, it is true. All NSAID's (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug) prevent muscle growth. Tylenol, Advil, Aspirin, Ibuprofen, etc. This is because they stop protein synthesis and inflammation, which is what sparks the muscle growth.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 09:35:58 AM
Yes, it is true. All NSAID's (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug) prevent muscle growth. Tylenol, Advil, Aspirin, Ibuprofen, etc. This is because they stop protein synthesis and inflammation, which is what sparks the muscle growth.

are you serious?  That's awesome info right there.

Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 09:37:04 AM
Yes, it is true. All NSAID's (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug) prevent muscle growth. Tylenol, Advil, Aspirin, Ibuprofen, etc. This is because they stop protein synthesis and inflammation, which is what sparks the muscle growth.

what about sudafed?  (Sinus medicine)

It contains phenylephrine - does that prevent muscle gain?
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: biceps on November 11, 2007, 09:47:30 AM
i take an 81 mg every day, yes.

81 mg is to low doz to do any harm.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 10:08:31 AM
Yes, it is true. All NSAID's (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug) prevent muscle growth. Tylenol, Advil, Aspirin, Ibuprofen, etc. This is because they stop protein synthesis and inflammation, which is what sparks the muscle growth.

I really appreciate your answer.

Can you address if any of these prevent muscle growth:

Sudafed
EFAs
Enchinea (keeps you from getting sick).

thanks!
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: tomgreynolds on November 11, 2007, 10:09:15 AM
I don't think Sudafed prevents muscle growth, I only know that Acetaminophen and Ibuprofen (which are the active ingredients in the drugs i mentioned before) prevent growth.


Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Bast000 on November 11, 2007, 10:10:47 AM
didn't stop Tom Prince
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 10:12:21 AM
I don't think Sudafed prevents muscle growth, I only know that Acetaminophen and Ibuprofen (which are the active ingredients in the drugs i mentioned before) prevent growth.

Thanks.  I have been taking advil too much, being sinus season.

Finally - do you know anything about caffeine?  I read it had a thermogenic effect.  Does that limit muscle growth?  thank you!!
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: The Coach on November 11, 2007, 10:14:57 AM
I read in md that aspirin has effects which limit muscle growth.  Is this true?

Everything I read or study or research usually has references at the end of the artical or case study or study.....does MD do that??
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 10:15:58 AM
Everything I read or study or research usually has references at the end of the artical or case study or study.....does MD do that??

yep.  i'll grab that article next time i'm in the can.  I don't bring MD out of my bathroom lol...
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: tomgreynolds on November 11, 2007, 10:16:59 AM

Echinacea should be ok, it's great for your immune system and will keep you healthy.

EFA's are both good and not so good. Fats like Omega-3 are great for your heart, but it is also anti-inflammatory, which means that it has the same effect as NSAID's. It doesn't prevent muscle growth to the same degree that those drugs do, but it does lessen soreness or DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness) from lifting.

Ingesting EFA's is ok, it won't help you gain mass as much as a diet of red meat will, but you shouldn't have any real issues, just a little less soreness that you could be having.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: tomgreynolds on November 11, 2007, 10:20:28 AM
And caffeine does NOT limit muscle growth. Taking a reasonable amount of caffeine prior to a workout gives you better stamina and more energy in the gym.

Don't over do it with the caffeine though, whether it's in pill form or coffee, soda, etc. 

It helps burn fat and is a good source of energy.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 10:21:33 AM
Ingesting EFA's is ok, it won't help you gain mass as much as a diet of red meat will, but you shouldn't have any real issues, just a little less soreness that you could be having.

oh - I didnt know that EFAs and red meat gave you pretty much the same fats.

I eat red meat usually once a day.  Some lean beef cuts, or hamburger.  Does this cover my EFA needs?
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: tomgreynolds on November 11, 2007, 10:25:02 AM
I'm sorry, i didn't word that clearly enough. Red meats give you more saturated fats, which are good for muscle growth and PROMOTE soreness. Whereas EFA's like Omega-3 and OMEGA-6 PREVENT soreness.

It would be smart to take in both for optimum muscle growth and overall health.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: biceps on November 11, 2007, 10:25:29 AM
Thanks.  I have been taking advil too much, being sinus season.

Finally - do you know anything about caffeine?  I read it had a thermogenic effect.  Does that limit muscle growth?  thank you!!

I am curios how did you came up with the Mr.Cortisol name,  I am not jocking but everything you use it increases Cortisol levels.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: The Coach on November 11, 2007, 10:26:59 AM
I'm sorry, i didn't word that clearly enough. Red meats give you more saturated fats, which are good for muscle growth and PROMOTE soreness. Whereas EFA's like Omega-3 and OMEGA-6 PREVENT soreness.

It would be smart to take in both for optimum muscle growth and overall health.

Exactly correct!
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 10:28:41 AM
I am curios how did you came up with the Mr.Cortisol name,  I am not jocking but everything you use it increases Cortisol levels.

just cause i like to fk with people and raise their levels.

in this case, i'm actually being serious.  I have bad sinuses and have been battling soreness, so I've been taking OTC stuff for maybe 2 months.  I noticed i'm down a few pounds and haven't been seeing returns in the gym.  of course, diet and rest and training have all suffered thanks to sinuses :(
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: tomgreynolds on November 11, 2007, 10:31:36 AM
I can feel you on that one, your illnesses, paired with the medicines you have been taking are really putting a halt on your gains.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: candidizzle on November 11, 2007, 10:32:34 AM
asprin does not contain acetominophen or ibuprofen and does not limit muscle growth.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: tomgreynolds on November 11, 2007, 10:34:31 AM
Aspirin®, or acetylsalicylic acid (IPA: /əˌsɛtɨlsælɨˌsɪlɨk ˈæsɨd/), (acetosal) is a salicylate drug often used as an analgesic (to relieve minor aches and pains), antipyretic (to reduce fever), and as an anti-inflammatory. It also has an antiplatelet ("blood-thinning") effect and is used in long-term, low doses to prevent heart attacks and blood clot formation in people at high risk for developing blood clots.[1]

Aspirin was the first-discovered member of the class of drugs known as non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs),

I was wrong about the contents, but the effects are the same. Aspirin= no muscle growth.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 10:35:35 AM
I can feel you on that one, your illnesses, paired with the medicines you have been taking are really putting a halt on your gains.

yeah i was up over 190 at one point.  I used ECA and got really lean, abs, etc.  Down to 170 and cut as hell.  I felt awesome.  Then I moved and sinuses went crazy.  I live in the country now.  Spent the last 2 months trying antibiotics, aspirin, ibu, sudafed, really overdoing it.  I finally discovered HOT SAUCE and they cleared up in two days haha...

now i'm getting clean off of all medicines, really seeing they were making me skinny.  Lost ten pounds and a little sharpness, but I've only been training 2 days a week to be honest
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: bmuscle90 on November 11, 2007, 10:38:46 AM
If I have a headache I dont take any medicine for it.  I only take tylenol..advil..etc if I really need it.  Rather be putting down something else in my body then some pills I dont need.  Just wait.. it will go away.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: biceps on November 11, 2007, 10:44:18 AM
just cause i like to fk with people and raise their levels.

in this case, i'm actually being serious.  I have bad sinuses and have been battling soreness, so I've been taking OTC stuff for maybe 2 months.  I noticed i'm down a few pounds and haven't been seeing returns in the gym.  of course, diet and rest and training have all suffered thanks to sinuses :(

I am very serious about cortisol level it is OK to have a little increase during your workouts, that why caffeine 100 mg to 150 mg before training is OK caffeine increases cortisol level or any other stimulants, and I hope you know what high cortisol level cause post work outs,  faster you lower the cortisol level to normal range faster the recuperation begins.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 10:45:48 AM
I am very serious about cortisol level it is OK to have a little increase during your workouts, that why caffeine 100 mg to 150 mg before training is OK caffeine increases cortisol level or any other stimulants, and I hope you know what high cortisol level cause post work outs,  faster you lower the cortisol level to normal range faster the recuperation begins.

what are ways to lower it?

get protein and simple sugars 20 min after trianing?
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: biceps on November 11, 2007, 10:47:39 AM
Aspirin®, or acetylsalicylic acid (IPA: /əˌsɛtɨlsælɨˌsɪlɨk ˈæsɨd/), (acetosal) is a salicylate drug often used as an analgesic (to relieve minor aches and pains), antipyretic (to reduce fever), and as an anti-inflammatory. It also has an antiplatelet ("blood-thinning") effect and is used in long-term, low doses to prevent heart attacks and blood clot formation in people at high risk for developing blood clots.[1]

Aspirin was the first-discovered member of the class of drugs known as non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs),

I was wrong about the contents, but the effects are the same. Aspirin= no muscle growth.

And it is recommended for anabolic users to take daily to lower the risk of blood cloths.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: biceps on November 11, 2007, 11:03:50 AM
what are ways to lower it?

get protein and simple sugars 20 min after trianing?

Yes that is a good first step than 1 hr later have a good coplex carb and real food protein meal than vait 30 min and take 45min to 1 hr sleep.

 BTW this is a good subject most of the guys on this board are talking about juice drugs etc.. few pays attention to health and recovery.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 11, 2007, 11:07:52 AM
Aspirin= no muscle growth.
Hardly. It's really unknown to what degree NSAIDs reduce muscle growth. Just because some of them stop the acute protein synthetic response doesn't mean there is NO adaptation to training while taking them. What we do know is that many athletes who practically live on NSAIDs grow just fine.

Look at Tom Prince as an example lol
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 11:19:45 AM
Yes that is a good first step than 1 hr later have a good coplex carb and real food protein meal than vait 30 min and take 45min to 1 hr sleep.

 BTW this is a good subject most of the guys on this board are talking about juice drugs etc.. few pays attention to health and recovery.


cool, i appreciate the info.

Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: G o a t b o y on November 11, 2007, 11:23:56 AM
Look at Tom Prince as an example lol


"Advil"   ::)   Oh, brother.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: pellius on November 11, 2007, 11:50:10 AM
Hardly. It's really unknown to what degree NSAIDs reduce muscle growth. Just because some of them stop the acute protein synthetic response doesn't mean there is NO adaptation to training while taking them. What we do know is that many athletes who practically live on NSAIDs grow just fine.

Look at Tom Prince as an example lol

Exactly. I don't know where this all or nothing thinking comes from. Most things in life is a matter of degrees. Second hand smoke in an out door park has no comparison if stuck in a car with a smoker. Hell, too much water is dangerous. It's all a matter of degrees. Low dose aspirin has a negligible effect on protein synthesis and should be a must on anybody indulging in anabolics.

BTW, isn't it in one of Coleman's DVD segments when he's taking all those pills and mentions that one of them is aspirin?
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: tomgreynolds on November 11, 2007, 02:36:47 PM
Yeah, Coleman does mention that he takes aspirin everyday in his DVD... it was in "Unbelievable' I think. I found that odd but it makes a good point. If it is necessary for Anabolic users to take it, then it makes sense that he does.

I'm natural, and i won't take something even if it has a chance of hindering my gains.
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 03:25:14 PM
this is useful stuff!
Title: Re: Does aspirin prevent muscle growth?
Post by: onlyme on November 11, 2007, 07:29:43 PM
I read in md that aspirin has effects which limit muscle growth.  Is this true?

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