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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: davidpaul on November 11, 2007, 01:52:32 PM
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I say this guy,
reminds me of Mike "Karate badboy" Barnes from Karate Kid III
Took it to the extreme, all the way hardcore.
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Hey, he nealry died for us!
Muenzer was more hardcore...
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Hey, he nealry died for us!
Muenzer was more hardcore...
would u fuck with a guy holding that barbell bro?
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sleeveless polo shirt. monster new shirt style.
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Is he wearing lipstick?
Is that the first BB Guido>?
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This guys weren't even bodybuilders they just trained like animals , they would eat thunder and crap lightening !
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would u fuck with a guy holding that barbell bro?
ok ok, i get it....
find some pics with ripped flanell shirt, jeans hot pants and open boots, i think all BB posed in this hardcore outfit...
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one of those guys gave his shirt to onlyme so he could wear it at the Olympia weekend.
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tough call
either steve michalik
or this guy
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wearing construction boots and jeans tucked into your striped tube socks. those are the fundamentals of hardcore.
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notice the whole crowd looking
thats how it's when i lift, not because i lift a lot of weight, but because i show up at all!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=180326.0;attach=210870;image)
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thats what its all about
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The most hardcore of hardcore?
Either Benaziza or Munzer. Basically anyone who's dead. :-\
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dying is easy
the hard part is to live with the guilty conscience of countless ownings on getbig
every night i wake up in sweat, hearing the cries of the lost souls who died battling it out with me on here and sealing their fate
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dying is easy
the hard part is to live with the guilty conscience of countless ownings on getbig
every night i wake up in sweat, hearing the cries of the lost souls who died battling it out with me on here and sealing their fate
;D
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Jean Pierre Fux would have to be up there, he is either hardcore or pretty stupid or both.
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casey viator and coleman as far as training goes
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dying is easy
the hard part is to live with the guilty conscience of countless ownings on getbig
every night i wake up in sweat, hearing the cries of the lost souls who died battling it out with me on here and sealing their fate
;D
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i'm sure in retrospect jean would have train differently, ego can really hurt you.
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For leg training, Tom Platz.
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Definitely NASSER EL SONBATY.
He had some pretty hardcore articles in Flex back in the day, about free weights over machines, heavy weights, etc. His training videos are hardcore too.
Branch Warren might be second.
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Jean Pierre Fux would have to be up there, he is either hardcore or pretty stupid or both.
At least you know they weren't fake weights!
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Branch is pretty hardcore.
I've seen him do dips with CHAINS over his neck.
I don't think anyone did that before?
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Jimmy Fuller is arguably the hardest training bodybuilder ever. He would do up to 100 sets per bodypart in the 15 to 25 rep range taking each set past failure with forced reps and negatives, and he trained twice a day! :o
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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This guys weren't even bodybuilders they just trained like animals , they would eat thunder and crap lightening !
One of the first bb mags I bought had an article about the barbarians. They said you need to shit blood after training legs! Now that's hardcore!
:D
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In the late nineties Flex Magazine itself rated Nasser El Sonbaty and Dorian Yates for having the most intense workouts.
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But Dorian had to rely on a drill instructor to get the intense level, where as Nasser had the intensity inside himself.
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But Dorian had to rely on a drill instructor to get the intense level, where as Nasser had the intensity inside himself.
Oh yeah, Nasser definitely beats Dorian in pretty much every aspect of bodybuilding and life in general. Flex had to name him up there with Nasser to support their gifting of so many sandows to Dorian.
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Oh yeah, Nasser definitely beats Dorian in pretty much every aspect of bodybuilding and life in general. Flex had to name him up there with Nasser to support their gifting of so many sandows to Dorian.
Dorian got punched in the face some years back.
I'd like to see anyone trying that shit with Nasser! ;D
Maybe someone did and the only reason we didn't hear about it - is the guy is missing! :D
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Dorian got punched in the face some years back.
I'd like to see anyone trying that shit with Nasser! ;D
Maybe someone did and the only reason we didn't hear about it - is the guy is missing! :D
lol, Nasser rips shit up! No one in their right mind would try shit with a 300+ lb monster like him. I remember reading in Flex once that, shortly after he unfairly got 2nd to Flex Wheeler at the Arnold Classic, some reporter followed him backstage to try to interview him but Nasser was rightfully in a bad mood so he chased him out!
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lol, Nasser rips shit up! No one in their right mind would try shit with a 300+ lb monster like him. I remember reading in Flex once that, shortly after he unfairly got 2nd to Flex Wheeler at the Arnold Classic, some reporter followed him backstage to try to interview him but Nasser was rightfully in a bad mood so he chased him out!
Nasser El Gonnawhoopurass
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lol, Nasser rips shit up! No one in their right mind would try shit with a 300+ lb monster like him. I remember reading in Flex once that, shortly after he unfairly got 2nd to Flex Wheeler at the Arnold Classic, some reporter followed him backstage to try to interview him but Nasser was rightfully in a bad mood so he chased him out!
Haha. He was going to let the reporter eat his own camera for lunch.
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Funny... a thread about the most hardcore bodybuilder and neither Arnold, Zane or Levrone been mentioned even once, by anyone!
Not that it's surprising...
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if you've seen branch warrens new dvd. he seems pretty hardcore ;D
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I own it.
Branch get points for being the first bodybuilder to shout "m otherfucker" in a video!
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My favorite topic. Show me one guy who is "hardcore" do something without heavy drug use. Bodybuilding, world's most delusional people. ;D
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It's either Zone Capone or Big Noli.
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It's either Zone Capone or Big Noli.
Who?
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munzer as far as conditioning
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Patterson and DA are pretty hardcore.
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Sergio Oliva - Trained every day for 2 hours, ate anything and everything, all after working all day in a meat factory and then partied half the night after too!!
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would u fuck with a guy holding that barbell bro?
I dont fuck guys.
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DA's pretty hardcore, he takes a pounding with a 12" schlong every night to failure and still manages to train!!!!!!
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whatabout serge nubret with his 5 hours meal sessions in the middle of the night
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whatabout serge nubret with his 5 hours meal sessions in the middle of the night
I always see Serge Nubret as almost TOO classy to be hardcore in the way the guys see it on here BUT if you are talking hours and hours of intense training, staying ripped the whole time and then STILL living the bodybuilding lifestyle 100% at 69 years of age, kickin the butts of all us youngsters the YES, HE'S MR HARDCORE.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC-L_zHuPx0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC-L_zHuPx0)
Falco - Out Of The Dark
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Paul Dillet. ;D
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but what make a bodybuilder HardCore? drugs? training? dieting?
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Nobody trained harder than Rich Gaspari....nobody!
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but what make a bodybuilder HardCore? drugs? training? dieting?
gay4noPay
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Nobody trained harder than Rich Gaspari....nobody!
except great, huge Dillet.
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except great, huge Dillet.
;D In Charles Glass's Dreams!!!!
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i think some of the unknown npc level guys are more hardcore? i mean because they're trying to get to pro they use all kinds of shit with crazy training routines.
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;D In Charles Glass's Dreams!!!!
:)
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;D In Charles Glass's Dreams!!!!
Well, gee, let's throw Flex Wheeler in there too then...
LMAO!
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Gaspari was the most.
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Gaspari was the most.
Nasser was the most. Hope this helps.
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Nasser was the most full of shit. Hope this helps.
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Branch is pretty hardcore.
I've seen him do dips with CHAINS over his neck.
I don't think anyone did that before?
I train with pencils up my nose
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Roland "insulin king" Cziurlok was pretty hardcore...
(http://www.darkwoods.com/bodybuilder/male/bb/gallery/fullsize/cziurl01.jpg)
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Roland "insulin king" Cziurlok was pretty hardcore...
(http://www.darkwoods.com/bodybuilder/male/bb/gallery/fullsize/cziurl01.jpg)
Sorry, but have you ever read about his training philosophies? Any article of his about training? 70 kilos bent-over rows doesn't qualify in my book as 'hardcore' for a guy his size and THAT hormonized. :-\
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Sorry, but have you ever read about his training philosophies? Any article of his about training? 70 kilos bent-over rows doesn't qualify in my book as 'hardcore' for a guy his size and THAT hormonized. :-\
This is bodybuilding, NOT powerlifting... it's about how you lift the weight, NOT how much weight you lift.
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dying is easy
the hard part is to live with the guilty conscience of countless ownings on getbig
every night i wake up in sweat, hearing the cries of the lost souls who died battling it out with me on here and sealing their fate
This dialogue is very reminiscent of the movie Troy where Achilles and Patroclus are having a talk right before a large battle in which Achilles decided to not partake in, Achilles tells Patroclus, "At night I sometimes see them. The faces of the men I killed. They're waiting for me on the far bank of the River Styx. They say, "Welcome, brother."
"1"
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Sorry, but have you ever read about his training philosophies? Any article of his about training? 70 kilos bent-over rows doesn't qualify in my book as 'hardcore' for a guy his size and THAT hormonized. :-\
I agree - I also read he did 50 lb dumbells for lateral raises and 30's for rear laterals.
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Sorry, but have you ever read about his training philosophies? Any article of his about training? 70 kilos bent-over rows doesn't qualify in my book as 'hardcore' for a guy his size and THAT hormonized. :-\
he ain't powerlifter - i think.
if you are moving huge weights by form that johnnie jackson uses....i think that's not hardcore...You can't even recognize what movement he is doing because of that lousy style he lifts.
in bb being hardcore probably means more than moving your arms 2 inches while standing completely straight and claim you are doing bent over rows with this huge amount of weight....more like shrugs with baby-weights for that exercise
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Nobody trained harder than Rich Gaspari....nobody!
Rich = HARDCORE
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I train with pencils up my nose
I train in barefeet on hot coals.
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This is bodybuilding, NOT powerlifting... it's about how you lift the weight, NOT how much weight you lift.
Well...anyway you cut it, 70 kg barbell-rows aren't hardcore at all for a pro bodybuilder if we are discussing training. If he was using this poudage on a superset, barbell rows being the second exercise on rotation I can see why only 70 kg and respect that.
Having said that I agree with you. This is bb, not pl. But still, the loads are important. If they weren't any pro could use infant weights and grow like weed. But they don't. That's why you will keep seeing them trying to use heavier weights from time to time. Progressive overload is the name of the game, and increasing the weight per se is one of the ways.
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he ain't powerlifter - i think.
if you are moving huge weights by form that johnnie jackson uses....i think that's not hardcore...You can't even recognize what movement he is doing because of that lousy style he lifts.
in bb being hardcore probably means more than moving your arms 2 inches while standing completely straight and claim you are doing bent over rows with this huge amount of weight....more like shrugs with baby-weights for that exercise
Completely agree with you. JJ form is garbage. Same with Branch, although his is a little bit less shitty.
What we, as bodybuilders, have to try to find is a happy medium place, where we can overload our muscles using proper form with the right amount of weight, but not a weight that is infantile or too easy, nor an enormity of load, which forces you to look like the notredame hunchback while doing bent over rows. 70 kg for Roland, if used on straight sets, were definitely a walk in the park, even if he paused for 10 seconds each rep at peak contraction.
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The most hardcore trainer of all times responds by the name of Tom Platz.
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Most hardcore?
Barbarian Brothers all the way.
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This one is easy....the definition of HARDCORE
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/aurey_okeefe/after.jpg)
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Squadfather.
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I once trained with my girlfriend while she was on the rag.don't get no more hardcore than that. >:(
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I once trained with my girlfriend while she was on the rag.don't get no more hardcore than that. >:(
Fucking Amen!! I'm never doing that shit again... by the second set I wanted to kill the bitch.
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This one is easy....the definition of HARDCORE
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/aurey_okeefe/after.jpg)
whos that?
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if by hardcore you mean "dedicated to the lifestyle"...i know that both kamali and cutler live the bb lifestyle all day every day pretty much year round. kamali just has shitty genetics. 9well, jay does too, but he gets freaky big, so he can win... unlike kamali; who just does the best with his limited potential.)
i would have loved to have seen what a guy like flex or cormier could have done had they lived like cutler and kamali..(im sure there are other pro bb'ers out there that live the "lifestyle" 100% too, theses two are just the only ones i know of that do.)
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dude are you serious...it dont get more hardcore than this
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I once trained with my girlfriend while she was on the rag.don't get no more hardcore than that. >:(
whos that?
Dreamer is the rag.
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tough call
either steve michalik
Michalik and Platz were crazy.
Platz doing leg extensions.
Platz being very strange at the end of this clip.
Is it John Defendis who wrote this? Does anyone know?
When Michalik trained, the fires of hell burned in his eyes. The man was an animal. I lived each waking moment anticipating the ass kickin' workouts that lay ahead that day and wondering how in hell I would be able to overcome them. I lived by a quote from Friedrich Nietzsche: "That which will not kill you will only make you stronger."
Surviving The Workouts
The key was to figure out how to survive and even thrive and grow on these workouts. It wasn't easy at first, but I was determined not to quit. I wanted to win the U.S.A. and claim a spot in the record books. I was not looking to be fit. I wanted to be the best. If you want to be a champion you have to make sacrifices. Michalik was not only a champion but he was the Vince Lombardi of bodybuilding. Win at any cost. Winning meant everything. He would always say, "Train beyond the pain... and death is your only release!"
It was a hot sunny day in the summer of 1979 and we just finished a brutal 55-set leg workout. Yes, that's right. 55 sets. It may sound stupid today and you may think that it was overtraining but at 20 years old, I was sporting 28 1/2" ripped-to-the-bone quads. Big, thick, muscular thighs at a time when Bill Phillips probably couldn't even pronounce the word "creatine" and way before I ever heard the words "growth hormone." Makes you think about training harder in the present era of IGF-1, insulin, and growth hormone.
Anyway, the freak Steve Michalik invited me to catch some rays at the beach in preparation for the upcoming U.S.A. On the way to the beach I kept asking Michalik what it was going to take for me to win the USA Championships. What would I have to do and what sacrifices had to be made beyond the ones that I was already making?
Steve was quiet. He just kept looking out the window but refused to mutter a word. A short time later we arrived at Jones Beach, dropped our towels on the sand, and proceeded towards the water. When we were out far enough for the water to cover my head, Steve grabbed me and aggressively shoved me under the surf. I managed to surface for a moment. I gagged, coughed, and was shoved under again.
Michalik would allow me to come up for one breath, and then proceed to shove me under again and again. I frantically kicked and fought until I finally grew weak and went limp. Michalik dragged me from the water and threw me on the beach. As I spit up water and tried to catch a breath, he started yelling like a madman. "Tell me how it felt to have one breath... How bad did you want that little breath of air? When you want to win as bad as you wanted that one breath of air, then come back and see me. That's what it will take for you to be the best!"
That day marked a hiatus that lasted for the next three years: Michalik as the demanding mentor, and I was the willing punching bag. Day after day and week after week I started to grow bigger and better. The workouts were unbelievable. Michalik taught more than training though; he instilled in me a will to win that was almost supernatural.
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Benny Podda was quite extreme. The following is from t-nation
In the November 2004 issue of Men's Fitness (yes, I know, but was suckered into a 2 year subscription and was before I met T-Nation) there is an article about one crazy mo-fo named Benny Podda.
IMO, he's a T-Man to the extreme and should be recognized and not be constrained to a 3 page article (pgs. 91, 92, 144) in Men's Fitness of all places. The artice the only source of information I found on Podda. I don't have an URL, only the magizine in front of me.
A bit about Podda:
-Born outside of Pittsburg in 1957.
-Fullback and linebacker on H.S. football team.
-Was pretty much a street thug: 'hired himself out as muscle to wiseguys'(p.92) and 'got shot while robbing a pharmacy for painkillers, armed not with a gun like a normal crook but with a bow and arrow'(92).
-Attended University of Richmond in Virginia but was expelled for being "insane". Returned home to start bodybuilding.
-Studied Eastern philosophies and Genghis Khan's philosohy on physical training.
"His warriors learned how to turn themelves inside out to project their inner power like lightning...
You know that feeling when you're blowing your load? Insted of letting that out, you reverse that whole thing. It feels like your body is on fucking FIRE! I lift weights with that [energy] coursing through my body and my fucking testosterone a thousand-times normal - 'cause I just fucked myself...See? That's why I can hang 220 pounds from my fuckin' nuts" says Podda.
-'Fueled by the visualization techniques of Eastern philosophies and herbal concoctions he made and drank from root-filled mayonnaise jars, Benny trained like a human wrecking ball.'(92)
- Won the National Physique Committe USA Bodybuilding in 1983. "I hated competition" he says, "I loved the dicipline of training for it, and I loved partying after it, but I never dug the sport or considered myself a bodybuilder."
-'Benny amazed audiences with the intensity and ferosity of his posing style...But his masterpie cecame at the end of a contest in Newark, NJ. He hung himself from the rafters and dangled motionless from the noose with his eyes closed. For five minuted people watched in silence, bewildered. Suddenly, he bugged out his eyes, gave everyone the finger, and walked out the back door.' (92)
-Went to the west coast and became a trainer.
-Met Chuck Norris in the gym one day. "I didn't know who the fuck he was and didn't give a fuck...They took me to his house and we hit it off because I pounded the guy.
I yelled at him 'Kick me in the fucking chest as hard as you can!' He's like, 'No, I shouldn't.' So, I berated the fucker until he did it - and didn't even budge when he did" says Podda.
-Quit his NFL training shop and headed to the mountains, only coming back to civilization for surival money.
-Now, lives in a cave (a "vaginal oriface"), has a rock pillow, drinks an herbal concoction every three hours, and eats buffalo meat, organic eggs, and homegrown veggies.
-'He flagellates his body with a large metal stick that has 180 spokes. He can spurt blood from his nose at will. He swings 220 pounds of weights from his testicles to see how much pain he can endure. And yet, unhinged though he may seem, Benny Podda is saner than you are.' (pg. 91)
-He stands at 5'6" 215 pounds.
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Michalik and Platz were crazy.
Platz doing leg extensions.
Platz being very strange at the end of this clip.
Is it John Defendis who wrote this? Does anyone know?
platz and defendis were my guesses for hardcore training. that was written by defendis. he called his training "intensity or insanity training. both he and platz would squat until their traps were bleeding from holding the bar.
rik
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one of those guys gave his shirt to onlyme so he could wear it at the Olympia weekend.
See if you were David you would have know you gave me this shirt
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Benny was training people at Ray Mentzers gym. He knew everything you could possibly know about eggs. He was very loud and obnoxious. He went on stage down in San Diego at a contest in a wolfs head and got arreested or something like that
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Benny Podda was quite extreme. The following is from t-nation
In the November 2004 issue of Men's Fitness (yes, I know, but was suckered into a 2 year subscription and was before I met T-Nation) there is an article about one crazy mo-fo named Benny Podda.
IMO, he's a T-Man to the extreme and should be recognized and not be constrained to a 3 page article (pgs. 91, 92, 144) in Men's Fitness of all places. The artice the only source of information I found on Podda. I don't have an URL, only the magizine in front of me.
A bit about Podda:
-Born outside of Pittsburg in 1957.
-Fullback and linebacker on H.S. football team.
-Was pretty much a street thug: 'hired himself out as muscle to wiseguys'(p.92) and 'got shot while robbing a pharmacy for painkillers, armed not with a gun like a normal crook but with a bow and arrow'(92).
-Attended University of Richmond in Virginia but was expelled for being "insane". Returned home to start bodybuilding.
-Studied Eastern philosophies and Genghis Khan's philosohy on physical training.
"His warriors learned how to turn themelves inside out to project their inner power like lightning...
You know that feeling when you're blowing your load? Insted of letting that out, you reverse that whole thing. It feels like your body is on fucking FIRE! I lift weights with that [energy] coursing through my body and my fucking testosterone a thousand-times normal - 'cause I just fucked myself...See? That's why I can hang 220 pounds from my fuckin' nuts" says Podda.
-'Fueled by the visualization techniques of Eastern philosophies and herbal concoctions he made and drank from root-filled mayonnaise jars, Benny trained like a human wrecking ball.'(92)
- Won the National Physique Committe USA Bodybuilding in 1983. "I hated competition" he says, "I loved the dicipline of training for it, and I loved partying after it, but I never dug the sport or considered myself a bodybuilder."
-'Benny amazed audiences with the intensity and ferosity of his posing style...But his masterpie cecame at the end of a contest in Newark, NJ. He hung himself from the rafters and dangled motionless from the noose with his eyes closed. For five minuted people watched in silence, bewildered. Suddenly, he bugged out his eyes, gave everyone the finger, and walked out the back door.' (92)
-Went to the west coast and became a trainer.
-Met Chuck Norris in the gym one day. "I didn't know who the fuck he was and didn't give a fuck...They took me to his house and we hit it off because I pounded the guy.
I yelled at him 'Kick me in the fucking chest as hard as you can!' He's like, 'No, I shouldn't.' So, I berated the fucker until he did it - and didn't even budge when he did" says Podda.
-Quit his NFL training shop and headed to the mountains, only coming back to civilization for surival money.
-Now, lives in a cave (a "vaginal oriface"), has a rock pillow, drinks an herbal concoction every three hours, and eats buffalo meat, organic eggs, and homegrown veggies.
-'He flagellates his body with a large metal stick that has 180 spokes. He can spurt blood from his nose at will. He swings 220 pounds of weights from his testicles to see how much pain he can endure. And yet, unhinged though he may seem, Benny Podda is saner than you are.' (pg. 91)
-He stands at 5'6" 215 pounds.
.....and than he bought his first pair of pink posing trunks.
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I'll go with Platz....but these other 2 guys are hardcore as well....
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See if you were David you would have know you gave me this shirt
is that a poncho your wearing?
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is that a poncho your wearing?
I thought it was a blouse?
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Eddie Robinson
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andreas munzer