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Title: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: saucetradomous on November 13, 2007, 08:51:00 AM
Don't know if this has been posted already

gotta love editing :P
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/46835/ (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/46835/)
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Special Ed on November 13, 2007, 08:56:49 AM
CNN dishonest??? WoW! Who'd a thunk it??
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Stark on November 13, 2007, 08:56:52 AM
Good guy,,, he says it all.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: BIG DUB on November 13, 2007, 10:11:06 AM
First he said no.. then at the end he said he can't say he did'nt? Which is it?
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Arnold jr on November 13, 2007, 10:12:48 AM
CNN, bigest crock of shit in the U.S.

Cena, cool dude, but you can bet your ass he's used AAS. These interviews crack me up, I mean come on, do they actually thing anyone would admit to it?
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Chick on November 13, 2007, 10:13:42 AM
CNN, bigest crock of shit in the U.S.

Cena, cool dude, but you can bet your ass he's used AAS. These interviews crack me up, I mean come on, do they actually thing anyone would admit to it?

Actually, he hasen't....good luck trying to get your pants to stay up..! ;D
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Livewire on November 13, 2007, 10:28:27 AM
Actually, he hasen't....good luck trying to get your pants to stay up..! ;D

How could you possibly know?

Did he "tell you so", and you take him at his word?  Come on...
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Audioslave on November 13, 2007, 10:30:23 AM
He's used the sauce. Trust me.

In any case, he does contradict himself saying "Absolutely not," and then, "I can't say I haven't."
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: tu_holmes on November 13, 2007, 10:34:52 AM
Actually, he hasen't....good luck trying to get your pants to stay up..! ;D

Cena used to compete didn't he?

You don't think he used back in the day.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: kwri298 on November 13, 2007, 10:35:55 AM
He's used the sauce. Trust me.

In any case, he does contradict himself saying "Absolutely not," and then, "I can't say I haven't."

Thats not what he said moron.  He was making a point that if he answers truefully no believes him anyway becasue everybody already has their mind made up.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Stavios on November 13, 2007, 11:53:24 AM
Actually, he hasen't....good luck trying to get your pants to stay up..! ;D
::)
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Overload on November 13, 2007, 11:58:37 AM
Actually, he hasen't....good luck trying to get your pants to stay up..! ;D

i didn't watch this video but on another interview Cena said "do i use steroids, no, but i can't tell you that i haven't in the past"...something like that.

8)
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Matt C on November 13, 2007, 12:00:30 PM
Craig Titus uses steroids and kills someone.

Therefore everyone who uses steroids must kill someone, even though it only takes one counter example to disprove this nonsense.

What is the name of that fallacy/form of proof?  Discuss.

PS - my intelligence is insulted whenever I watch CNN.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: BEAST 8692 on November 13, 2007, 12:06:36 PM
Actually, he hasen't....good luck trying to get your pants to stay up..! ;D

chick tryin to keep on cena's good side so he gets a part in one of his movies.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: gh15 on November 13, 2007, 12:15:50 PM
user,,belly button area and midsection area have the pufiness of water between skin and muscle that only synthetic hormones produce,,no its not because of bodyfat%
id say favorite hormones of his were/are dianabol anapolon testosterone and nandrolone/eq to as lesser degree if at all now but in the 90s like candy
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: insidescoop on November 13, 2007, 12:26:30 PM
Actually, he hasen't....good luck trying to get your pants to stay up..! ;D

I trained with Cena in Venice for a while.....when he competed he was one of Will harris' boys.....its upsetting to me to say it, 'cause i needed AAS...but John is the Genuine Article....natural, with tremendous discipline and genetics
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Matt C on November 13, 2007, 12:27:29 PM
I trained with Cena in Venice for a while.....when he competed he was one of Will harris' boys.....its upsetting to me to say it, 'cause i needed AAS...but John is the Genuine Article....natural, with tremendous discipline and genetics

I find this hard to believe.  Cena is pretty damn big.  Did Will Harris train him?
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Overload on November 13, 2007, 12:27:50 PM
I trained with Cena in Venice for a while.....when he competed he was one of Will harris' boys.....its upsetting to me to say it, 'cause i needed AAS...but John is the Genuine Article....natural, with tremendous discipline and genetics

He's as natural as Will Harris.

8)
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: sgt. d on November 13, 2007, 12:29:33 PM
I hope Nancy Grace gets a taste at this story. She needs a good cock up the ass to shut her up.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Rearden Metal on November 13, 2007, 12:42:46 PM
Chick, if he hasn't, he's one of the best natty bb's EVER. His pic while competing have been posted, and it's clear he was using.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Croatch on November 13, 2007, 12:57:57 PM
I trained with Cena in Venice for a while.....when he competed he was one of Will harris' boys.....its upsetting to me to say it, 'cause i needed AAS...but John is the Genuine Article....natural, with tremendous discipline and genetics
Don't feel bad, most people need some kind of drugs to achieve anything in a gym.  It's just how it is.  If everyone could walk around and do well at natural bodybuilding, they would.  It just requires more heart usually than people have.  No big deal.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Iraclese on November 13, 2007, 12:58:50 PM
Regardless if he has used or not, CNN is a bunch of propaganda spewing assholes.  They always twist the truth with everything.  Including the war in Iraq. ::)
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Matt C on November 13, 2007, 01:24:25 PM
Regardless if he has used or not, CNN is a bunch of propaganda spewing assholes.  They always twist the truth with everything.  Including the war in Iraq. ::)

The NARCO state documentary really sickened me.

You had American narcs go to a land which is not theirs, destroy the farms of these poor farmers, ruin their family, and expect the naive viewer to consider THEM to be the hero?  Talk about disgusting.  They even said in the documentary that as a result of ruining their farms, the farmers would likely need to give their daughter(s) to the drug lords.  And this was to make the DRUG LORDS look bad.  It really made me ill to watch that - and even more ill knowing that the general populace will interpret in a way completely separate from reality.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 13, 2007, 01:30:41 PM
Hahaha...hasn't used , lol... he told me in person what he was on, in between rails of coke... LOLOL
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Matt C on November 13, 2007, 01:41:24 PM
Hahaha...hasn't used , lol... he told me in person what he was on, in between rails of coke... LOLOL


It's actually the steroids killing the wrestlers.  ::)
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: gordiano on November 13, 2007, 01:46:17 PM
What a pile of shit.


Of course he's used..... ::)


However, it's wrong of CNN to do that shit.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: kwri298 on November 13, 2007, 02:39:04 PM
Hahaha...hasn't used , lol... he told me in person what he was on, in between rails of coke... LOLOL


R you serious or just joking?
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 13, 2007, 02:41:39 PM
R you serious or just joking?

Dead serious, him and Ray Mysterio were doing blow like vaccuum cleaners at my buddy's place last summer
Cena told me all the wrestlers get their stuff legit from a doctor via script, they all run GH, deca and test enanthate.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: kwri298 on November 13, 2007, 03:04:54 PM
Dead serious, him and Ray Mysterio were doing blow like vaccuum cleaners at my buddy's place last summer
Cena told me all the wrestlers get their stuff legit from a doctor via script, they all run GH, deca and test enanthate.


I gotta say I wouldn't admit the shit either.  If he did it could be the end of his career.  It's obvious that it's not the gear that killing these guys...it's the crazy lifestyle with all of the other drugs.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 13, 2007, 03:09:01 PM
I gotta say I wouldn't admit the shit either.  If he did it could be the end of his career.  It's obvious that it's not the gear that killing these guys...it's the crazy lifestyle with all of the other drugs.

You have NO IDEA how much coke they went through that evening... I was shocked..  :o  :o
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Arnold jr on November 13, 2007, 03:16:12 PM
Actually, he hasen't....good luck trying to get your pants to stay up..! ;D
Come on Bobby, we're all grownups here...well, maybe not all of us ;D

Regardless, wether or not he used/uses AAS, the fact that CNN does stuff like this is insanely retarded. I mean come on, what is he supposed to say? It's a lose lose situation, IMO.

Oh, and BTW, fortunately for me, my pants still fit just fine, lol!
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Azure on November 13, 2007, 03:59:07 PM
Who cares?  He's hot ;D
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: gh15 on November 13, 2007, 04:21:35 PM
I trained with Cena in Venice for a while.....when he competed he was one of Will harris' boys.....its upsetting to me to say it, 'cause i needed AAS...but John is the Genuine Article....natural, with tremendous discipline and genetics

 :D

the fella wouldnt be touching 200lb natural at single digit if was natural,,220-230 13% at 6'1 is the elite of the elite of naturals and they do NOT COMPETE ,they also are not americans and in 99% of the cases although naturals did experiemtn with simple tablets such as dianabol anapolon and methyl1 here and there

the fella talked about doesnt have tremendous genetics because he could never do nothing in bodybuilding,,his is blocky and lack tremendesly when you break apart his body parts,,whaty he lacks the most is honesty! but to be quite honest with you the wrestlers problems are far from synthetic hormones since they all use one year supply of gear in scouple months you cant change this since the ownder of the federation is very well conected in the goverment and extremely rich and influencial to the usa financial industry in many aspects put aside the wwf

what brings money stays!,,in usa if you learn the country right everything is about how much money you have,,if you have a lot of it you will be more powerful than president of usa,, only thing that talks in usa is how big your pockets are and the richest people arew the ones who look the poorest to you in the street! remember that..it also bring me to an un related subjecxt of how the usa goverment were very sucessful at fuckin your brains and putting in it the true belief that ufos are imagination at best while in reality the experiemts going on with alien crafts are 50+ years old and yet everyone who open the mouth about it in usa is considered a loonaateek,,but then again this is unrelated subject that i could talk about for hours on

back to the person talked about,,their problems majority of wrestlers is narcotics and pain killers ,,majority of them are addicts get to a point they cant live with out it and thats where they die not because of syntethic hormones
there was this wrestler name chris jerico i sugest you take a good look at him today with his 160lb he carrys ,,ook at him in the wrestling days,,now this is the ONLY EXAMPLE OF WRESTLER THAT GOT COMPLETELY OUT OF THE GAME AND GOT BACK TO SANE LIFE AND EVEN HAVE SOME POTENTIAL,,most of the others are not too lucky and to be honest i feel sad for them and the women  that need to live with them past the second month

Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: aussiepro on November 13, 2007, 05:08:29 PM
i love wrestling but its a pile of shit, >:( that he says he's natural. everyone out there knows it and the ones who dont are the people who still think that you can get 22' arms from just training and eating right ???
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: warrior_code on November 13, 2007, 05:48:13 PM
gh15, most people who do research on the subject of ufo's sooner or later realize that they are very real.  I feel they are kept secret for good measure.  The mass hysteria that would ensue if the general public found about about them would be quite a mess. 

I suppose this is why people such as Micheal Moore insist on only doing live interviews. 
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: tu_holmes on November 13, 2007, 06:11:00 PM
gh15, most people who do research on the subject of ufo's sooner or later realize that they are very real.  I feel they are kept secret for good measure.  The mass hysteria that would ensue if the general public found about about them would be quite a mess. 

I suppose this is why people such as Micheal Moore insist on only doing live interviews. 

If UFOs are real, and I'm not saying they aren't... I've just never seen one... BUT, if they are, man would that fuck up ALL of the religious nuts.

I'd actually kind of like to see that... as long as they didn't go all "V" on us and try to eat my cute self.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Chick on November 13, 2007, 06:16:34 PM
I know John fairly well, enough to say that I believe that he's been natural....If anyone knows physiques, you can tell he's a natural BB....I knew him well before he got into wrestling. Check out the pics when he competed...not to tough.

Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: dearth on November 13, 2007, 06:17:12 PM
Actually, he hasen't....good luck trying to get your pants to stay up..! ;D

and neither has a single ifbb pro on the circuit today......
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: warrior_code on November 13, 2007, 06:19:27 PM
There would be many people who will have the usual "end of the world" scenario in mind.  Many religious beliefs would crumble, but as history shows us, there is a good chance new age beliefs would be formed based on these events. Many humans have a tendency or need to idolize or worship things out of the normal.

 Mind you this is speculation, but I also feel the governments who have knowledge of this phenomenon are simply too embarrassed to let this information out.  Mostly because I feel they don't know the whole story about them either.

Btw, sorry for getting off topic.     
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: dearth on November 13, 2007, 06:23:45 PM
I know John fairly well, enough to say that I believe that he's been natural....If anyone knows physiques, you can tell he's a natural BB....I knew him well before he got into wrestling. Check out the pics when he competed...not to tough.


cena actually performs physically demanding work, not just posing. This in combination with
his year round ripped musculature, makes me doubt how well you know cena
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 13, 2007, 06:24:08 PM
I know John fairly well, enough to say that I believe that he's been natural....If anyone knows physiques, you can tell he's a natural BB....I knew him well before he got into wrestling. Check out the pics when he competed...not to tough.


What do you mean "been natural"? Do you believe he never once touched a single steroid tablet or injection?

I know this is really a bad question for you. Not like you would say anything else publicly.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: clownbaby on November 13, 2007, 06:54:18 PM
hahhaah have you seen him in the movie "The Marine" He is huge and is carrying very low bodyfat.  You can't be that big and that lean and be natural. Where is Squadfather and his intrinsic ability to claim out bs claims, cause this one is obvious.

Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: gh15 on November 13, 2007, 07:04:57 PM
There would be many people who will have the usual "end of the world" scenario in mind.  Many religious beliefs would crumble, but as history shows us, there is a good chance new age beliefs would be formed based on these events. Many humans have a tendency or need to idolize or worship things out of the normal.

 Mind you this is speculation, but I also feel the governments who have knowledge of this phenomenon are simply too embarrassed to let this information out.  Mostly because I feel they don't know the whole story about them either.

Btw, sorry for getting off topic.     

when you as people (human kind) do not understand something we try to figure it out,,it can take 10 years 30 years 50 years and even 100 years and 1000s years,,
when we as human beings do not understand it we learn it ,,in this case some parts in the big birocracy of goverments ,,that is also what happen in usa since 40s when first craft been captured

one thing about the human race that you need to know about  (happens in particular section of goverment related to military affairs) is that they like to learn things before declaire them and release them to public knowledge base,,and if the there is something that still not understood it wont be released to public knowledge because the govrmer also acting as protector of its people and its structure

when it comes to the us (specific sections of the military/goverment) operated in s4 as part of area 51 with out the need to report to president and with out constitutional law or rules,,and still to this date do though added many other locations ,,those sections of the military/goverment still to this date havent figure out how to fly the crafts and how to operate it ,,especially cant and wont figure out related date because some compounds are missing since they are extra terrestrial compounds as in not from this planet,,

element 15 is only now being stabelized and there is not supply of it on earth since it comes from what we captured and its limited,,element 15 after 50 years of advanced research STILL havent being figured and what that tell you is that the human kind is simply not ready for interaction with super advanced societies,,we are part of time,,we are part of space and we are pasrt of a bigger thing that i believe truely controled by one god ,,but we are only small tiny part of it called the human kind and we are very young in out development in relation to the ones who came here and looked over us,,

so in general ,,you may feel you are ready but in reality its a lot more than god related beliefs ,,it is more to do with the fact we cant figure out anything about them or to be exact we figured out very little in 50+ years and we have the best human researchers doing the work and risking their lives and still nothing,,why?

because we are not ready ,,yet! i believe next 100 years when we have base on mars and ofcourse sucesfully getting on the moon so we can get to mars with our vehicles,,,i believe that after this we will be more ready since new elements sources of materials wil be available for human kind

for now all you can do is know that they been here and you are not crazy,,the stuff we can get out of 50+ years of research we try to put into military machinary and it has been quite small in relation to what could have been done if we had the capability to understand all and gain a hold of the materials needed

anything i wrote above is above and beyond president of usa,,it is controlled by specific sections of the us military and goverment and has no obeidence to the constitution of the usa ,,it also happen in other countries around the world and treated and followed to the t with the code of rules that the us and ussr presented along last 50 years as the only super powers on this planet
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Big_Tymer on November 13, 2007, 07:19:25 PM
cena is definately on the sauce.  wwf came to town a few years ago and john, chris benoit and ray mistero were hanging out at golds gym in century city plaza.  cena was db pressing 140s for sets of 10 or so
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: The_Schofeild_Kid on November 13, 2007, 07:25:38 PM
when you as people (human kind) do not understand something we try to figure it out,,it can take 10 years 30 years 50 years and even 100 years and 1000s years,,
when we as human beings do not understand it we learn it ,,in this case some parts in the big birocracy of goverments ,,that is also what happen in usa since 40s when first craft been captured

one thing about the human race that you need to know about  (happens in particular section of goverment related to military affairs) is that they like to learn things before declaire them and release them to public knowledge base,,and if the there is something that still not understood it wont be released to public knowledge because the govrmer also acting as protector of its people and its structure

when it comes to the us (specific sections of the military/goverment) operated in s4 as part of area 51 with out the need to report to president and with out constitutional law or rules,,and still to this date do though added many other locations ,,those sections of the military/goverment still to this date havent figure out how to fly the crafts and how to operate it ,,especially cant and wont figure out related date because some compounds are missing since they are extra terrestrial compounds as in not from this planet,,

element 15 is only now being stabelized and there is not supply of it on earth since it comes from what we captured and its limited,,element 15 after 50 years of advanced research STILL havent being figured and what that tell you is that the human kind is simply not ready for interaction with super advanced societies,,we are part of time,,we are part of space and we are pasrt of a bigger thing that i believe truely controled by one god ,,but we are only small tiny part of it called the human kind and we are very young in out development in relation to the ones who came here and looked over us,,

so in general ,,you may feel you are ready but in reality its a lot more than god related beliefs ,,it is more to do with the fact we cant figure out anything about them or to be exact we figured out very little in 50+ years and we have the best human researchers doing the work and risking their lives and still nothing,,why?

because we are not ready ,,yet! i believe next 100 years when we have base on mars and ofcourse sucesfully getting on the moon so we can get to mars with our vehicles,,,i believe that after this we will be more ready since new elements sources of materials wil be available for human kind

for now all you can do is know that they been here and you are not crazy,,the stuff we can get out of 50+ years of research we try to put into military machinary and it has been quite small in relation to what could have been done if we had the capability to understand all and gain a hold of the materials needed

anything i wrote above is above and beyond president of usa,,it is controlled by specific sections of the us military and goverment and has no obeidence to the constitution of the usa ,,it also happen in other countries around the world and treated and followed to the t with the code of rules that the us and ussr presented along last 50 years as the only super powers on this planet

did daddy waddy hack into gh15's getbig account OR did gh15 get into daddy waddy's personal stash?

thats what i want to know.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Arnold jr on November 13, 2007, 08:16:19 PM
I know John fairly well, enough to say that I believe that he's been natural....If anyone knows physiques, you can tell he's a natural BB....I knew him well before he got into wrestling. Check out the pics when he competed...not to tough.


Well I'll say this. If he is natural then his natural hormone levels must be through the roof...super human levels...especially when you consider the size he maintains on such a demanding schedule. So although it is doubtful or a better way to put it is that it would be a very, very rare gift to have.

Last off, even though I'm still skeptical, I am fully aware that it is possible. One of my regular training partners was natural until earlier this year...and he possessed the kind of size and conditioning most users will never achieve...but he's one in a million when it comes to that sort of thing.

To show that this is a possibility, this is what a 235lb natural BB's arms look like if he does in fact happen do posses super human hormone levels.

BTW, as far as John goes, honestly, if he's natural or not, makes no difference to me...hey, props either way IMO.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: cswol on November 13, 2007, 08:46:26 PM
you guys have been members here at getbig for sometime now, you mean you cant see the signs and results when someone is on the juice............its clear cena uses, he's a bodybuilder.  Is that why at times you can see gyno buildup under his nipples, or what about when he gets off juice, his chest shrivels up something fierce along with the rest of his body, the only mainstay are his arms and shoulders, when he is off juice he is an all arms and shoulders man.  Tell me how many pro wrestlers do you guys know of that dont use roids, they all use it, its freaking mandatory.  Cena has a reputation that he is trying to promote, but in the end it will be known that he is another lying wrestler.  A ton of wrestlers and athletes use a long list of drugs, including x, coke, meth, and all that other bullcrap.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: thelamefalsehood on November 13, 2007, 08:52:11 PM
He probably does, but these guys aren't near as big in person as they look on TV. I went to one of their shows a few years ago, and they were big guys but nothing crazy. They announced that guy Rob Van Damme as 6 foot 230 I think, he looked closer to 5"10" at maybe 205, maybe. The only guy I saw that looked massive was Batista, he's as big on TV as in person, shoulder width is just stupid. HE BRINGS THE PAIN BROTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: BEAST 8692 on November 13, 2007, 08:52:50 PM
I know John fairly well, enough to say that I believe that he's been natural....If anyone knows physiques, you can tell he's a natural BB....I knew him well before he got into wrestling. Check out the pics when he competed...not to tough.



Chick, you know very well that the point in contention was whether he has ever used.

you stated that he 'hasn't' which is just plain bullshit and you know it.

please stop being disingenuous. no one is dissing the man. using steroids doesn't make you a lesser person any more than drinking a glass of wine with dinner. both are drugs, only wine is far more dangerous to individual physical health, mental health and society at large.

the use of drugs in sports needs a more honest approach. simply denying use just makes athletes look like liars and joe couch potato public has his excuse ('at least i'm not a lying druggie scum. if i took steroids i could hit 60 home runs a season too.') and all pro athletes, especially bbers go lower on the totem pole of society (around drug addict level).

if the governor of california can, at least, fess up to his use of steroids then i don't see why a pro wrestler can't.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: beatmaster on November 13, 2007, 09:23:07 PM
Actually, he hasen't....good luck trying to get your pants to stay up..! ;D

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Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: kwri298 on November 14, 2007, 08:05:08 AM
I read in Flex or M&F that Cena moved from Maine (or Somewhere like that) to Venice.  Where he worked at Golds.  I say that he did use, hell he was in culture at the Mecca.

Chick is off on this one. 
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Chick on November 14, 2007, 08:27:48 AM
I read in Flex or M&F that Cena moved from Maine (or Somewhere like that) to Venice.  Where he worked at Golds.  I say that he did use, hell he was in culture at the Mecca.

Chick is off on this one. 

Oh...my bad...I didn't realize you had access to such "inside info"......

What else do you know..?
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: slaveboy1980 on November 14, 2007, 08:32:03 AM
off course he used...for years.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: kwri298 on November 14, 2007, 08:41:59 AM
Oh...my bad...I didn't realize you had access to such "inside info"......

What else do you know..?

I know that you are just giving your opinion just the same as I am.  You have no evidence, the same as I have no evidence. 

Next you’ll be saying "I really believe Ronnie Coleman when he says he didn’t do steroids because he’s a great guy and a former police officer." 
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Bobby on November 14, 2007, 09:06:11 AM
when you as people (human kind) do not understand something we try to figure it out,,it can take 10 years 30 years 50 years and even 100 years and 1000s years,,
when we as human beings do not understand it we learn it ,,in this case some parts in the big birocracy of goverments ,,that is also what happen in usa since 40s when first craft been captured

one thing about the human race that you need to know about  (happens in particular section of goverment related to military affairs) is that they like to learn things before declaire them and release them to public knowledge base,,and if the there is something that still not understood it wont be released to public knowledge because the govrmer also acting as protector of its people and its structure

when it comes to the us (specific sections of the military/goverment) operated in s4 as part of area 51 with out the need to report to president and with out constitutional law or rules,,and still to this date do though added many other locations ,,those sections of the military/goverment still to this date havent figure out how to fly the crafts and how to operate it ,,especially cant and wont figure out related date because some compounds are missing since they are extra terrestrial compounds as in not from this planet,,

element 15 is only now being stabelized and there is not supply of it on earth since it comes from what we captured and its limited,,element 15 after 50 years of advanced research STILL havent being figured and what that tell you is that the human kind is simply not ready for interaction with super advanced societies,,we are part of time,,we are part of space and we are pasrt of a bigger thing that i believe truely controled by one god ,,but we are only small tiny part of it called the human kind and we are very young in out development in relation to the ones who came here and looked over us,,

so in general ,,you may feel you are ready but in reality its a lot more than god related beliefs ,,it is more to do with the fact we cant figure out anything about them or to be exact we figured out very little in 50+ years and we have the best human researchers doing the work and risking their lives and still nothing,,why?

because we are not ready ,,yet! i believe next 100 years when we have base on mars and ofcourse sucesfully getting on the moon so we can get to mars with our vehicles,,,i believe that after this we will be more ready since new elements sources of materials wil be available for human kind

for now all you can do is know that they been here and you are not crazy,,the stuff we can get out of 50+ years of research we try to put into military machinary and it has been quite small in relation to what could have been done if we had the capability to understand all and gain a hold of the materials needed

anything i wrote above is above and beyond president of usa,,it is controlled by specific sections of the us military and goverment and has no obeidence to the constitution of the usa ,,it also happen in other countries around the world and treated and followed to the t with the code of rules that the us and ussr presented along last 50 years as the only super powers on this planet

Do you really believe in aliens nasser ?

I'm not saying they don't exist but, i mean so many ppl have cameras of all kinds these days, yet there are none captured on video. Back in the 50s-80s there were load of 'photage' surfacing, when very few had cameras... What do you think about that? have they stopped visiting here or what.

who built the pyramids?
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: HUGEPECS on November 14, 2007, 09:26:56 AM
John Cena is 93% natural. his physique speaks louder than any assumption
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: gh15 on November 15, 2007, 01:46:20 AM
Do you really believe in aliens nasser ?

I'm not saying they don't exist but, i mean so many ppl have cameras of all kinds these days, yet there are none captured on video. Back in the 50s-80s there were load of 'photage' surfacing, when very few had cameras... What do you think about that? have they stopped visiting here or what.

who built the pyramids?

aliens? aliens to human planet earth maybe though not even that,,they are only aliens because we dont have any other name to call them since it was nevr officially confirmed that they have been here,,

its not something that happens last 50 years ,,,this has been for millions of years,,our bible has a lot to do with other civilizations and being in the universe and other solar systems in many galaxies,,

we human beings are at the BEGGINING of our journy ,,many of them are long time ahead of us ,,the ones who need to know about it know and been in this for over 50 years as i said in the long post,,human kind still not ready for them becuse there is no need to meet something you cant undertsand due to 1000 year of time differences ,,why meet and and try to accept something like that right now when we are not ready,,the sections in goverments hide this from public for this exat reason,,if public know for 100% that its true and real the fear of the unknown will come upon us since we are human beings and it is a very common tread in human being,,so why meet and officially introduce to something that is far superior than you? yet!

with time after couple elements been stebelized and understood completely ,,,when human kind feel (the specific sections of goverment/military) that we have something to contribute and exchange and contribute to the universe ...that is the time when you will officially know about them,,its a matter of good 100 years if not more but it will come,,
until then they visit us and we can only watch them by mistake or not,,if they came here to destroy us we would already been gone

i do believe that they have something to do with us as in the evolusion from monkey to more advanced being was interfered by them (by them i mean the ones who look like us and have more resemble to us since there are 9 different being groups that visited earth) and human race has been created ,,see we are part of them that is why they wont do anything to us ,,we are just the beggining and they are a lot older civilizations

final remark,,i do believe one god control everything but its the god of everything and everyone in universe,,i also do believe the jewish people are the chosen people of this god on planet earth thus he used other civilization as its signs and symbols thoughout the bible to leads the jewish people through time on earth,i also believe jesus of nazareth is the son of god and is jew part of the jewish people,,basically i believe planet earth is marked jewish and every one on it is jewish since they started jewish even if they are now have different relegion

the jews built the peramids but it was hand of god in it via extra terrestrial help
our story has just begun,,we wotn be here to see hwo it develop ,, we are talking 1000s of years but at the end we will be doing to another planet somewhere what they did to us and it is help it develop in its own pace with minimal interference yet under supervision

thats basically it ;)
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: GoneAway on November 15, 2007, 01:52:45 AM
cena on steroids? nah dont believe it! ;)
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Croatch on November 15, 2007, 01:56:21 AM
you guys have been members here at getbig for sometime now, you mean you cant see the signs and results when someone is on the juice............its clear cena uses, he's a bodybuilder.  Is that why at times you can see gyno buildup under his nipples, or what about when he gets off juice, his chest shrivels up something fierce along with the rest of his body, the only mainstay are his arms and shoulders, when he is off juice he is an all arms and shoulders man.  Tell me how many pro wrestlers do you guys know of that dont use roids, they all use it, its freaking mandatory.  Cena has a reputation that he is trying to promote, but in the end it will be known that he is another lying wrestler.  A ton of wrestlers and athletes use a long list of drugs, including x, coke, meth, and all that other bullcrap.
I obviously can't say if this guy used, nor do I really care.  However, there a few flaws in your assessment.
1. It's possible to get gyno and not take gear.
2. Creatine will give you muscle fullness and even more so on certain body parts for some people.  My chest is much more filled out on creatine.  Almost night and day.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: bigmc on November 15, 2007, 02:03:03 AM
Don't feel bad, most people need some kind of drugs to achieve anything in a gym.  It's just how it is.  If everyone could walk around and do well at natural bodybuilding, they would.  It just requires more heart usually than people have.  No big deal.

sutpidity in every word  ::)
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: KillerMonk on November 15, 2007, 02:22:08 AM
Id say Cenas clean very good structure and agree with Chick.

GH15 i would like to talk to you indepth about Aliens how about we do some LSD.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: jetcity on November 15, 2007, 05:57:52 AM
testosterone is not steroids
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Paul Allen on November 15, 2007, 06:32:50 AM
Bob, your friend Tom Prince said John Cena used steroids when he was a towel boy at Venice.

Do you remember that?  I believe he said it on muscle mayhem.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: delta9mda on November 15, 2007, 06:57:40 AM
First he said no.. then at the end he said he can't say he did'nt? Which is it?
what he said "i cant say i have not, but you'll never prove that i have."
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: HERACLES on November 15, 2007, 07:03:19 AM
what he said "i cant say i have not, but you'll never prove that i have."

Yes, just by saying that you basically admit you have. Personally who cares, its obvious that he has. To say he never used is pretty rediculous, and again- not that there is anything wrong that he did.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: BEAST 8692 on November 15, 2007, 07:48:44 AM
Chick, you know very well that the point in contention was whether he has ever used.

you stated that he 'hasn't' which is just plain bullshit and you know it.

please stop being disingenuous. no one is dissing the man. using steroids doesn't make you a lesser person any more than drinking a glass of wine with dinner. both are drugs, only wine is far more dangerous to individual physical health, mental health and society at large.

the use of drugs in sports needs a more honest approach. simply denying use just makes athletes look like liars and joe couch potato public has his excuse ('at least i'm not a lying druggie scum. if i took steroids i could hit 60 home runs a season too.') and all pro athletes, especially bbers go lower on the totem pole of society (around drug addict level).

if the governor of california can, at least, fess up to his use of steroids then i don't see why a pro wrestler can't.

bump for a reply from Chick.

he won't reply because he knows i've caught him with pants down smokin cena's salami. ;D

Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: knny187 on November 15, 2007, 10:43:31 AM
Call me simple minded.....


but if I don't do drugs.....& I know I don't.....I would simply say in the interview....."nope....don't touch it"

Maybe it doesn't make for a "great interview".....but it's a pretty balck & white questions she's asking.
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: toolarge4u on November 15, 2007, 11:14:59 AM
someone post cenas pic from the npc emerald cup( i think it was that show) He was fucking sliced and huge at like 230. Ya hes drug free now im sure but why hey maybe he got gyno from being so genetically gifted.
The Dr who did this botching should be shot LOL




Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: gh15 on November 15, 2007, 04:09:18 PM
someone post cenas pic from the npc emerald cup( i think it was that show) He was fucking sliced and huge at like 230. Ya hes drug free now im sure but why hey maybe he got gyno from being so genetically gifted.
The Dr who did this botching should be shot LOL






far from drug free as usa is far from china,,from young age on synthetics to this day,,i would bet my career on the fact he also used pain killers if a serious wrestler and if he is serious wrestler i wouldnt know because i stoped following wwf sometimes past my 20s,,from what i do know he is no bret hurt or kerry vaneric nor is he shwn michels ,,he is new generation spoiled brat that couldnt find job in bodybuilding or football/baseball usa so went to wrestling most likley through mtv generaion  nothing or generation x as you call it

being a nice guy has nothing to do with your hormone usage,,he is on ,, all he has is his looks ..you takre this away and you stay with what exactly? wrestler? give me a break,,his physiqe is what earns him money ..not his wresttling skills or his acting...

older generation x juiced up liar,,
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 16, 2007, 03:01:43 AM
far from drug free as usa is far from china,,from young age on synthetics to this day,,i would bet my career on the fact he also used pain killers if a serious wrestler and if he is serious wrestler i wouldnt know because i stoped following wwf sometimes past my 20s,,from what i do know he is no bret hurt or kerry vaneric nor is he shwn michels ,,he is new generation spoiled brat that couldnt find job in bodybuilding or football/baseball usa so went to wrestling most likley through mtv generaion  nothing or generation x as you call it

being a nice guy has nothing to do with your hormone usage,,he is on ,, all he has is his looks ..you takre this away and you stay with what exactly? wrestler? give me a break,,his physiqe is what earns him money ..not his wresttling skills or his acting...

older generation x juiced up liar,,

Hahaha... he makes a year what the top 5 bodybuilders at the olympia make per year COMBINED.
you're delusional buddy.. the top WWE guys pull in 3-5 million + merchandise bonuses EASY!
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: LatsMcGee on November 16, 2007, 04:28:26 AM
Nasser after the aliens probed your tanned asshole did they stuff any dollars in your posing trunks?  Do they have advanced gear beyond Palumbo's wildest fantasies?
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: kwri298 on November 16, 2007, 07:28:16 AM
Hahaha... he makes a year what the top 5 bodybuilders at the olympia make per year COMBINED.
you're delusional buddy.. the top WWE guys pull in 3-5 million + merchandise bonuses EASY!


I would prefer to be John Cena's situation than Jay Cutler's. 
Title: Re: CNN Dishonest Reporting on John Cena and steroids
Post by: gh15 on November 16, 2007, 11:44:22 AM
Hahaha... he makes a year what the top 5 bodybuilders at the olympia make per year COMBINED.
you're delusional buddy.. the top WWE guys pull in 3-5 million + merchandise bonuses EASY!


true! still dont change the fact he cant wrestle in the way wrestling used toi be even 15-years ago,,nor he can act ,,he just cant act what so ever,,all image but he does make lots of $ and thats what matters in todays usa so in that aspect you are right,,
in usa today if you have money you can be what ever you want and no one bother you ,,,if you dont havemoney god have mercy of yoru soul,,sad but true!