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Who would you choose as being the best bodybuilder of the 90's of the following bodybuilding greats:
1) Nasser El Sonbaty
2) Nasser El Sonbaty
3) Nasser El Sonbaty
4) Nasser El Sonbaty
5) Nasser El Sonbaty
I'd have to go with Nasser.
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levrone and ray has nice builds same goes with many others
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Mike Francois has to be on there somewhere.
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Who would you choose as being the best bodybuilder of the 90's of the following bodybuilding greats:
1) Nasser El Sonbaty
2) Nasser El Sonbaty
3) Nasser El Sonbaty
4) Nasser El Sonbaty
5) Nasser El Sonbaty
I'd have to go with Nasser.
Would have been better if you listed Franco Santoriello as option 3 or 4.
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Who would you choose as being the best bodybuilder of the 90's of the following bodybuilding greats:
1) Nasser El Sonbaty
2) Nasser El Sonbaty
3) Nasser El Sonbaty
4) Nasser El Sonbaty
5) Nasser El Sonbaty
I'd have to go with Nasser.
im going to go with number 3
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in no order
Kevin Levrone
Flex Wheeler
Shawn Ray
Chris Cormier
gh15
Dorian Yates
Ronnie Coleman
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in no order
Kevin Levrone
Flex Wheeler
Shawn Ray
Chris Cormier
gh15
Dorian Yates
Ronnie Coleman
i take it from that you think "gh15" is huge nasser el sonbaty?
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oh and technically as lee haney competed in the 90's he would have to be up there too
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Mike Francois has to be on there somewhere.
I may be wrong, but wasn't his best placing at the Olympia 7th in 95? Also, too lazy to find the pic now, but ND posted a comparison pic at the 94 NOC with Nasser and Francois was not even close to deserving that win - it was very analogous to that old MM comparison between Yates and Dillet.
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im going to go with number 3
It's a tough call...I kinda prefer 2 over 3...slight difference of opinion I guess.
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Ditka!
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oh and technically as lee haney competed in the 90's he would have to be up there too
If it was the 80's he'd obviously be #1...however I dont think he could hang with most of the top guys in the 90's.
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I may be wrong, but wasn't his best placing at the Olympia 7th in 95? Also, too lazy to find the pic now, but ND posted a comparison pic at the 94 NOC with Nasser and Francois was not even close to deserving that win - it was very analogous to that old MM comparison between Yates and Dillet.
he never came to the olympia in top shape, i think he won his first 5 pro shows and also beat ronnie(though behind huge nasser el sonbaty) at the 97 ASC his second last show and the last one where he was "in shape"
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If it was the 80's he'd obviously be #1...however I dont think he could hang with most of the top guys in the 90's.
number one over huge nasser el sonbaty?
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number one over huge nasser el sonbaty?
In the 80's--sure...Huge Nasser was just a kid at the time :) But Huge Nasser in his prime vs. Haney in his prime - no contest!
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In the 80's--sure...Huge Nasser was just a kid at the time :) But Huge Nasser in his prime vs. Haney in his prime - no contest!
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Haney can't wear Nasser's pants :)
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Nasser was extremely cool when i met him.
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Haney can't wear Nasser's pants :)
haney's pencil thighs would be lost in the fabric needed to cover the quads of huge nasser el sonbaty!
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Haney can't wear Nasser's pants :)
He's too hetero for that
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Flex.
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Flex.
Sorry, he's not in one of the five choices
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nasser wins hands down
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Who would you choose as being the best bodybuilder of the 90's of the following bodybuilding greats:
Nice trick question, bud
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Ditka!
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Ditka!
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"uh oh he's havin' another heart attack"
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Who would you choose as being the best bodybuilder of the 90's of the following bodybuilding greats:
1) Nasser El Sonbaty
2) Nasser El Sonbaty
3) Nasser El Sonbaty
4) Nasser El Sonbaty
5) Nasser El Sonbaty
I'd have to go with Nasser.
How many times was Nasser Mr. Olympia in the 90's ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Yates !!!
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Ditka!
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BAHAHAHAA props for the humor that GB is sorely missing
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Who would you choose as being the best bodybuilder of the 90's of the following bodybuilding greats:
1) Nasser El Sonbaty
2) Nasser El Sonbaty
3) Nasser El Sonbaty
4) Nasser El Sonbaty
5) Nasser El Sonbaty
I'd have to go with Nasser.
Six reasons why he WASN'T:
1) Dorian Yates 1992
2) Dorian Yates 1993
3) Dorian Yates 1994
4) Dorian Yates 1995
5) Dorian Yates 1996
6) Dorian Yates 1997
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How many times was Nasser Mr. Olympia in the 90's ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Unofficially, four times.
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Unofficially, four times.
How many times did Nasser fantasize and pray that he could be Dorian Yates ???
Unofficially, six times.
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Nasser was too busy eating cheesecake before the Mr. Olympia.....probably why he had flabby glutes :-\
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Lights out
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;D
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;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D ;D :D
All hail Mr. Olympia!! ;D
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hahaha Epic posting of pics from his semi-retirement stage - where he just did a few shows for fun more than anything.
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Who would you choose as being the best bodybuilder of the 90's of the following bodybuilding greats:
1) Nasser El Sonbaty
2) Nasser El Sonbaty
3) Nasser El Sonbaty
4) Nasser El Sonbaty
5) Nasser El Sonbaty
I'd have to go with Nasser.
He wouldnt be in my top 50.
How many pairs of his soiled posing thongs do you own BB?
You obsession is quite creepy
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nasser could never beat dorian... he wasn't even in his league... JUST FULL OF OIL and still wasn't good enough to win an O ahaha
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nasser beat Dorian in 95, 96, and 97. However, due to politics in the IFBB Dorian was awarded these titles over Huge Nasser.
Fixed that for you.
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Fixed that for you.
Nice try.. but nasser wasn't even close to dorian not in any way shape or form... or any other top pro for that matter. he was a terrible bber who used way too much oil and the end result was him looking like shit, but yet you still cant see that... why?
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Nice try.. but nasser wasn't even close to dorian not in any way shape or form... or any other top pro for that matter. he was a terrible bber who used way too much oil and the end result was him looking like shit, but yet you still cant see that... why?
I'm 100 % with ya...not hating on Nasser but I think he was/is idoized by kids who don't understand what makes a bodybuilder a good/great one...all they see is this guy's bigger...nt even that...Dorian WAS bigger than Nasser...
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Who would you choose as being the best bodybuilder of the 90's of the following bodybuilding greats:
1) Nasser El Sonbaty
2) Nasser El Sonbaty
3) Nasser El Sonbaty
4) Nasser El Sonbaty
5) Nasser El Sonbaty
I'd have to go with Nasser.
This is a no brainer. Who has the Sandows? ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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ronnie, nasser, dorian, flex, levrone. maybe also shawn ray.
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Look at those legs :o
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I'm 100 % with ya...not hating on Nasser but I think he was/is idoized by kids who don't understand what makes a bodybuilder a good/great one...all they see is this guy's bigger...nt even that...Dorian WAS bigger than Nasser...
The ONLY bodyparts that Dorian had over Nasser were back and calves. Nasser was better than Dorian everywhere else, including overall size and yet he still had a smaller waist than Dorian.
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Nice try.. but nasser wasn't even close to dorian not in any way shape or form... or any other top pro for that matter. he was a terrible bber who used way too much oil and the end result was him looking like shit, but yet you still cant see that... why?
Leaving aside the argument as to whether it was oil or scar tissue, that issue did not arise till 2001...well after Dorain retired.
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It's safe to assume Nasser is the greatest bodybuilder of our time.
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This is a no brainer. Who has the Sandows? ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
In the 90's? Dorian - 6, Haney - 2, Coleman - 2. Dorian wins.
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In the 90's? Dorian - 6, Haney - 2, Coleman - 2. Dorian wins.
Yes, and that would mean that Jay Cutler is best bodybuilder as of today? ??? Because Mr. Olympia wins are always fair. ???
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Yes, and that would mean that Jay Cutler is best bodybuilder as of today?
No, in the 2000's, Coleman is clearly the best. Cutler is a placeholder until Heath gets big enough to be Mr. O.
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No, in the 2000's, Coleman is clearly the best. Cutler is a placeholder until Heath gets big enough to be Mr. O.
Point is that Sandows are not always given to the best bodybuilder that day. If you think Jay deserved the 2007 Mr. O you are delusional. Likewise, Nasser deserved a few Mr. O titles over Dorian in the 90's.
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If you think Jay deserved the 2007 Mr. O you are delusional.
When did I ever say Cutler deserved the win? Wolf should have won. ::)
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When did I ever say Cutler deserved the win? Wolf should have won. ::)
Exactly - so you've now moved away from the logic that winning Sandows means you look better, which you implied when saying that Dorian > Nasser, Haney or Coleman in the 90's because he won more Mr. O titles than them.
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i dont remember 95, 96 nasser came last as he failed the drug test, even before that he was in 3rd behind shawn ray, 97...yep he won that one
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Exactly - so you've now moved away from the logic that winning Sandows means you look better, which you implied when saying that Dorian > Nasser, Haney or Coleman in the 90's because he won more Mr. O titles than them.
Haney was the best bodybuilder of the 80's, Dorian in the 90's, and Coleman in the '00's.
If you disagree, you're wrong.
Hope this helps!
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Nasser was a fat slob.
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Haney was the best bodybuilder of the 80's, Dorian in the 90's, and Coleman in the '00's.
If you disagree, you're wrong.
Hope this helps!
Your opinion is now irrelevant because the logic of your own posts are inconsistent with each other.
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i dont remember 95, 96 nasser came last as he failed the drug test, even before that he was in 3rd behind shawn ray, 97...yep he won that one
Jay Cutler failed a drug test similarly in I can't remember which year (Huge Nasser describes it in one of his recent interviews) however he did not lose his placing. ::)
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Your opinion is now irrelevant because the logic of your own posts are inconsistent with each other.
Blow me, bookworm! >:(
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Blow me, bookworm! >:(
MELTDOWN!!! ;D
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Not quite. ::)
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Jay Cutler failed a drug test similarly in I can't remember which year (Huge Nasser describes it in one of his recent interviews) however he did not lose his placing. ::)
he wouldnt because he was the "great white hope" and probably planned to be mr olympia many years previous to his actual winning
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he wouldnt because he was the "great white hope" and probably planned to be mr olympia many years previous to his actual winning
Exactly - and Huge Nasser would have had as many or even more Sandows in the 90's than Yates if Dorian did not have the double standard placed on him for being the "great white hope" of that decade.
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Who would you choose as being the best bodybuilder of the 90's of the following bodybuilding greats:
1) Nasser El Sonbaty
2) Nasser El Sonbaty
3) Nasser El Sonbaty
4) Nasser El Sonbaty
5) Nasser El Sonbaty
I'd have to go with Nasser.
lol, at least add some years in there.
TEAM NASSER
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Jay Cutler failed a drug test similarly in I can't remember which year (Huge Nasser describes it in one of his recent interviews) however he did not lose his placing. ::)
Jay cutler failed a diuretic test in 2001. But it was later found that using that amount of drugs would have been impossible and he would have died.. He admitted to using diuretics but not the amount of what he failed the test for.... why did nasser fail his drug test?
And even before the whole topic of nasser using oil he still didn't place anywhere dorian, therefore was not in his league.
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Jay cutler failed a diuretic test in 2001. But it was later found that using that amount of drugs would have been impossible and he would have died.. He admitted to using diuretics but not the amount of what he failed the test for.... why did nasser fail his drug test?
And even before the whole topic of nasser using oil he still didn't place anywhere dorian, therefore was not in his league.
Nope. From http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/probodybuildingweekly020507.html
"Bob Cicherillo brought up Nasser's disqualification at the 1996 Mr. Olympia for diuretics, and Nasser explained that Jay Cutler also tested positive for diuretics at the 2001 Mr. Olympia but Jay had threatened the NPC because the testing company was not IOC regulated as they said it would be, and the NPC backed down and Jay was not disqualified. The end result was that Jay kept his placing and his prize money and Nasser did not."
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Nope. From http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/probodybuildingweekly020507.html
"Bob Cicherillo brought up Nasser's disqualification at the 1996 Mr. Olympia for diuretics, and Nasser explained that Jay Cutler also tested positive for diuretics at the 2001 Mr. Olympia but Jay had threatened the NPC because the testing company was not IOC regulated as they said it would be, and the NPC backed down and Jay was not disqualified. The end result was that Jay kept his placing and his prize money and Nasser did not."
IFBB TRYING TO HOLD THE GYPSY MAN DOWN!
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IFBB TRYING TO HOLD THE GYPSY MAN DOWN!
People respond to scandal. Had Nasser tried to fight it in 1996 he would have kept his placing and his prize money!
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Nope. From http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/probodybuildingweekly020507.html
"Bob Cicherillo brought up Nasser's disqualification at the 1996 Mr. Olympia for diuretics, and Nasser explained that Jay Cutler also tested positive for diuretics at the 2001 Mr. Olympia but Jay had threatened the NPC because the testing company was not IOC regulated as they said it would be, and the NPC backed down and Jay was not disqualified. The end result was that Jay kept his placing and his prize money and Nasser did not."
i understand that, but the charges that the ifbb were charges jay cutler over were on numerous amounts of diuretics, which if he did in fact take he would have died. There is no way that taking those amounts of drugs (THE AMOUNTS HE GOT ACCUSED OF) that anyone would have survived. Therefor jay threatned a lawsuit because the allogations were clearly not true. In the end the ifbb droped the charges and jay kept his prize money. i'm not saying its right im just telling you the facts.
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i understand that, but the charges that the ifbb were charges jay cutler over were on numerous amounts of diuretics, which if he did in fact take he would have died. There is no way that taking those amounts of drugs (THE AMOUNTS HE GOT ACCUSED OF) that anyone would have survived. Therefor jay threatned a lawsuit because the allogations were clearly not true. In the end the ifbb droped the charges and jay kept his prize money. i'm not saying its right im just telling you the facts.
surely if a drug is banned its banned amounts dont matter
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Not quite. ::)
No Goatboy, that was skirting dangerously close to meltdown territory, if it wasn't a full blown one as Bigbobs is suggesting...
Hey, I was just wondering, have you ever thought about joining TEAM NASSER?
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i understand that, but the charges that the ifbb were charges jay cutler over were on numerous amounts of diuretics, which if he did in fact take he would have died. There is no way that taking those amounts of drugs (THE AMOUNTS HE GOT ACCUSED OF) that anyone would have survived. Therefor jay threatned a lawsuit because the allogations were clearly not true. In the end the ifbb droped the charges and jay kept his prize money. i'm not saying its right im just telling you the facts.
So why didnt the IFBB just reduce the previously exaggerated-dosage accusation to a more reasonable figure and still press with their diurectic charge against Jay? ::)
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So why didnt the IFBB just reduce the previously exaggerated-dosage accusation to a more reasonable figure and still press with their diurectic charge against Jay? ::)
that would have been the right thing to do. I'm have no idea why they didn't follow up on it later with lesser charges.. like i said im not a jay cutler worshipper i'm just letting you know the facts. but now they dont even test for diuretics...surely if a drug is banned its banned amounts dont matter
technically you can't use steroids in the IFBB because they are an illegal substance, but there have not been testing for them since the early 90's. and ever bber out there on the pro stage is using huge amounts of steroids. but that rule will never be changed and im sure we will never see any sort of testing for that EVER...
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that would have been the right thing to do. I'm have no idea why they didn't follow up on it later with lesser charges.. like i said im not a jay cutler worshipper i'm just letting you know the facts. but now they dont even test for diuretics...technically you can't use steroids in the IFBB because they are an illegal substance, but there have not been testing for them since the early 90's. and ever bber out there on the pro stage is using huge amounts of steroids. but that rule will never be changed and im sure we will never see any sort of testing for that EVER...
not the point, if a drug is banned and they test you for it and it is found in your system in any quantity then you fail the drug test...simple!
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not the point, if a drug is banned and they test you for it and it is found in your system in any quantity then you fail the drug test...simple!
yeah but thats never gonna happen, the ifbb will never test for steroids, if they did there wont be anyone to compete
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yeah but thats never gonna happen, the ifbb will never test for steroids, if they did there wont be anyone to compete
well they did once, but this isnt the point...if they are testing for diuretics and someone fails this test, no matter how small the amounts then they are dq'd no excuses no exceptions, for cutler to be excused this seems crazy to me
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Dorian Yates
Ronnie Coleman
Kevin Levrone
Flex Wheeler
Shawn Ray
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Jay cutler failed a diuretic test in 2001. But it was later found that using that amount of drugs would have been impossible and he would have died.. He admitted to using diuretics but not the amount of what he failed the test for.... why did nasser fail his drug test?
And even before the whole topic of nasser using oil he still didn't place anywhere dorian, therefore was not in his league.
I've read quite a bit about this before and have never seen anything like what you
have said. Do you have any proof that "using that amount of drugs would have been impossible and he would have died." This would be interesting information that I would like to see.
Where did you get this info from?
IFBB OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE
Subsequent to the mandatory drug tests that took place at the Olympia Weekend of October 26/27, 2001, the IFBB was informed that two samples had tested positive for banned diuretics.
As a result of this information, the IFBB took the initiative to scrupulously examine the drug-testing procedures that took place at and around the 2001 Olympia Weekend. After completing this investigation, the IFBB is confident that each and every one of the steps called for in the protocol of drug testing were meticulously followed at the event itself. However, as part of this investigation, it was discovered that the world-renowned laboratory employed by the IFBB is no longer designated as an official accredited lab by the International Olympic Committee. When the IFBB commenced its relationship with this highly reputable lab several years ago it was an IOC-accredited lab.
As the IFBB's Doping Control Policy calls for all testing to be undertaken by an IOC-accredited lab, the IFBB, committed to following the highest ethical standards, has no option but to declare the drug testing results from the 2001 Olympia Weekend null and void. Those athletes who had been informed that they had tested positive, Jay Cutler and Markus Ruhl, will keep their original 2001 Mr. Olympia placings of second and 14th, respectfully, and retain all relevant medals, privileges and prize money applicable to their placings.
We consider this decision to be one based on a pure technicality and in no way reflects on the integrity of the lab used by the IFBB, nor does it question the testing procedure followed by the IFBB at the 2001 Olympia Weekend. The IFBB is committed to following its official federation guidelines and bylaws to the letter. As a result, the IFBB officially announces that all future IFBB drug testing will be carried out under the auspices of an IOC-accredited lab to be determined before the commencement of the 2002 season.
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many articles and interviews that i have read and watched, have reffered to the fact that the amount of diuretics jay cutler was accused of was just ridiculous, and would have killed him if in fact he did take them...
What else was the IFBB going to say, that they fucked up and got it completely wrong.. i have read that or something similar to that before, but have heard of many more sources (interviews with jay himself, articles and so forth)...