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This was a long time coming. Will be interesting to see what the "new evidence" is.
New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
(CNN) -- Authorities have re-arrested three men in connection with the disappearance of an Alabama teenager in Aruba in 2005, based on new evidence in the case, prosecutors announced Wednesday.
1 of 4 Brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe were arrested in Aruba at the same time authorities in the Netherlands picked up Joran Van der Sloot at the request of the Aruban government, the statement said. Van der Sloot is attending school in Holland.
The three had previously been arrested in 2005, Aruban prosecutors noted in a statement, but a court released them, citing insufficient evidence.
They are now charged with "involvement in the voluntary manslaughter of Natalee Holloway or causing serious bodily harm to Natalee Holloway, resulting in her death," the statement said. Watch what led up to Wednesday's arrests »
Van der Sloot, now 20, and the Kalpoes, now ages 24 and 21, were the last people seen with Holloway, 18, as she left Carlos n' Charlie's nightclub in Oranjestad, Aruba, about 1:30 a.m. on May 30, 2005. All three men have maintained their innocence in her disappearance.
No information was immediately available about what the new evidence was that led to the arrests.
Aruban prosecutors said a team of detectives from the Netherlands has been reviewing the Holloway case at the request of authorities in Aruba, and had been on the island as late as last month to complete the investigation.
The Kalpoe brothers were being interrogated by Aruban police Wednesday, Aruba prosecutor Dop Kruimel told CNN. They will appear before a judge Friday for a preliminary arrest hearing, in which the judge determines whether the arrest was credible, she said.
The judge can then authorize their being detained for eight more days, meaning police have that much time to produce evidence. The suspects then go before a judge again, she said.
Van der Sloot was arrested in Arnhem, the Netherlands, by Dutch police, Kruimel said. Aruban authorities have asked for him to be extradited to Aruba within eight days.
Because they were not familiar with the case, Dutch police were not questioning Van der Sloot, she said. He will be questioned when he is brought back to Aruba, she said. However, he will appear before a judge Thursday in Arnhem.
When CNN called the Kalpoe household, the person who answered the phone hung up.
Earlier, Van der Sloot's mother, Anita Van der Sloot, told CNN her son had not been arrested, but had only reported to a police station in the Netherlands for questioning Wednesday after receiving a letter asking him to do so.
Anita Van der Sloot said she had spoken to her son briefly from her home in Aruba. She said a Dutch attorney was with him, and she expected him to appear before a judge and be released Thursday.
Meanwhile, a spokeswoman for Holloway's mother, Beth Holloway, said in a statement, "The family is always hopeful when a step in the right direction is made in the case."
Beth Holloway was refusing interviews for now, said spokeswoman Sunny Tillman. She previously was known as Beth Holloway-Twitty, but has returned to using Holloway after a divorce earlier this year.
Natalee Holloway was visiting Aruba with a group of about 100 classmates celebrating their graduation from Mountain Brook High School in suburban Birmingham, Alabama, when she went to Carlos n' Charlie's that night in 2005.
The group had planned to leave for home the following day, and Holloway's packed bags and passport were found in her hotel room after she failed to show up for her flight.
Her disappearance triggered an exhaustive search and investigation and a media sensation in the United States, Aruba, the Netherlands and beyond, but Holloway has never been found.
Aruban authorities have been criticized for their handling of the case. At least 10 men, including Van der Sloot and the Kalpoes, have been arrested and identified as suspects either in Holloway's disappearance or in an alleged cover-up. All were questioned and released.
Legal experts, however, have said differences in the U.S. and Aruban systems should be taken into account. Aruba's criminal justice system is based on Dutch law and a descendant of the Napoleonic code. In Aruba, authorities' reasonable suspicion that someone knows about or is involved in a crime is enough to make an arrest, while magistrates investigate and judges determine a suspect's guilt or innocence. There are no jury trials.
Aruban authorities, meanwhile, have suggested that Holloway may have overdosed on drugs or died of alcohol poisoning.
Beth Holloway and Natalee Holloway's father, Dave Holloway, filed a lawsuit last year against Van der Sloot and his father, Aruban judge Paulus Van der Sloot, in the Supreme Court of the State of New York. The Van der Sloots were served with the suit while on a trip to New York.
However, a judge in August 2006 dismissed the suit, saying New York was an inconvenient forum in which to consider it. It was unclear whether Holloway's parents have pursued legal action elsewhere.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/11/21/holloway.arrest/index.html
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I always thought the she died with the kid, and his dad the judge buried her to keep his name out of the news. the brothers were just some douchebags along for the ride.
It was a tragedy. But it shows you just how insulated criminals can be from successful prosecution when they just don't rat on each other.
I would be shocked to see anyone go to jail for this, barring a body found in their back yard.
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that joran guy is as guilty as oj simpson, anyone can see he lies his ass off. maybe he aint the killer but he certainly knows more about it.
The holloway was a slut though. so i could care less about her.
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American women don't realize that the Caribbean is not the US. In the islands there is no flurting. She probably flashed this Dutch guy, he went nuts, felt like he had game for the night and when she refused his advances he probably raped her and then disposed of the body with the help of his two Punjab compinches.
Hope this teaches American spring breakers to watch out when going outside of the US. If you're a female, drunk, on vacation and look like you're ready to mate, watch out! 'Cause you will get a loooot of attention, and not of the "you have beautiful eyes" kind... if ya know what I mean.
C-ya.
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Even if she was sleeping those guys she didn't deserve to die.
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Even if she was sleeping those guys she didn't deserve to die.
I'm not saying she did. All I'm saying is be careful when you go out there. American chicks are open minded, but it's the same openmindedness that can get them into trouble. Look, if a chick flashes you at the local bar you'll take it as a joke, whereas if they do it to someone at a bar in the Caribbean they might think she wants to mate... and I've seen it happen, to me actually, right in front of my wife.
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I'm not saying she did. All I'm saying is be careful when you go out there. American chicks are open minded, but it's the same openmindedness that can get them into trouble. Look, if a chick flashes you at the local bar you'll take it as a joke, whereas if they do it to someone at a bar in the Caribbean they might think she wants to mate... and I've seen it happen, to me actually, right in front of my wife.
Let's assume she flashed three guys at a local bar and actually told them she wanted to have sex with all three, then later changed her mind. That makes her dumb, but still doesn't warrant a death sentence.
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Arresting based on suspicion is bullshit. ::)
Tourism probably took a big hit, so they decide to arrest even though they don't really have a case. What a joke.
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American women don't realize that the Caribbean is not the US. In the islands there is no flurting. She probably flashed this Dutch guy, he went nuts, felt like he had game for the night and when she refused his advances he probably raped her and then disposed of the body with the help of his two Punjab compinches.
Hope this teaches American spring breakers to watch out when going outside of the US. If you're a female, drunk, on vacation and look like you're ready to mate, watch out! 'Cause you will get a loooot of attention, and not of the "you have beautiful eyes" kind... if ya know what I mean.
C-ya.
Good point.
American girls only get raped and murdered outside the US.
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Arresting based on suspicion is bullshit. ::)
Tourism probably took a big hit, so they decide to arrest even though they don't really have a case. What a joke.
I'll wait and see what the "new evidence" is before concluding they don't have a case.
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There's a statute of limitations on murder in Aruba. Unreal.
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There's a statute of limitations on murder in Aruba. Unreal.
I cannot believe that is the case in any civilized nation. Wow. How many years is it?
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Arresting based on suspicion is bullshit. ::)
Tourism probably took a big hit, so they decide to arrest even though they don't really have a case. What a joke.
Looks like you were right Camel. :-\
Charges dismissed in Holloway case
(CNN) -- Authorities in Aruba said Tuesday they have dropped the case against three men in the disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway for lack of sufficient evidence.
Prosecutors won't pursue charges against Deepak Kalpoe, from left, Satish Kalpoe and Joran van der Sloot.
1 of 2 "No charges will be brought against them," the Aruban Public Prosecutor's Office said in a statement, referring to Joran Van der Sloot, 20, and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, 20 and 21, respectively.
Throughout the investigation, the three maintained their innocence.
Acting on what the statement described as "new evidence" compiled over eight months, authorities last month re-arrested the three men.
But the effort proved fruitless. "The period of custody did not bring the final breakthrough in this investigation," the statement said. "All three suspects claimed their right not to give any statement at all."
The Court of Appeal ruled that there was not enough evidence to show that Holloway died as a result of a violent crime, and it ordered the suspects released.
Since then, the Public Prosecutor's Office concluded there was insufficient evidence to persuade a court "that a crime of violence against Natalee Holloway had been committed nor that her death has been caused by involuntary actions by either of the suspects," the statement said. See a timeline of how the case has developed »
In addition, it said, there was insufficient evidence to make a case that the high school graduate had been sexually abused.
"The Public Prosecutor's Office expects that if this case would be tried in court it would lead to an acquittal of all three suspects on these various charges," it concluded.
The fact that no body has been found "forms an important deficit" in building a case against the suspects, it said.
"It's a cruel nightmare for those who really want conclusion and meaning to have their hopes raised and inevitably dashed," said Theodore Simon, a Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, lawyer who has followed the case for CNN.
Still, the prosecutor's office and investigators believe "that any scenario beyond the one that implicates these three suspects has either been falsified or is proven to be highly unlikely," the Public Prosecutor's Office said.
The three men were held on suspicion of manslaughter, or assault and battery resulting in Holloway's death, authorities said.
Though the charges have been dismissed, "this does not imply that, if new serious evidence were to be found, this case could never be tried in court again."
It would be possible to so under the statute of limitations, a six-year period for involuntary manslaughter and 12 years for homicide.
All three suspects, who were arrested and released during the initial investigation in 2005, were arrested again November 21, with authorities citing new evidence against them.
That evidence has not been disclosed, but Hans Mos, the chief public prosecutor in the Dutch Caribbean island territory, said at the time the evidence was gathered after re-examining existing information, including cell phone records and text messages exchanged the night Holloway disappeared.
"I'm sad to say that I expected that these recent arrests would not lead to any final conclusions," Simon said.
"The reference to new information has yet to be fully described," he added. "It may give new meaning to the word 'new.' That may be a variation of old information, with perhaps a splinter of something very different."
Holloway has not been seen since she left an Oranjestad, Aruba, nightclub on May 30, 2005, with the three young men. She was 18 at the time, and was on the island with about 100 classmates celebrating their graduation from Mountain Brook High School in suburban Birmingham, Alabama. She failed to show up the following day for her flight home.
The Kalpoes told police they dropped Holloway and van der Sloot off near a lighthouse on the northern tip of the island after they left a nightclub. Van der Sloot's mother, Anita, has said her son told her he was on the beach with Holloway but left her there because she wanted to stay.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/12/18/holloway.case/index.html
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Those little brown boys are lucky that little white boy was with them the night that girl got dead.
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Holloway has not been seen since she left an Oranjestad, Aruba, nightclub on May 30, 2005, with the three young men. She was 18 at the time, and was on the island with about 100 classmates celebrating their graduation from Mountain Brook High School in suburban Birmingham, Alabama. She failed to show up the following day for her flight home.
The Kalpoes told police they dropped Holloway and van der Sloot off near a lighthouse on the northern tip of the island after they left a nightclub. Van der Sloot's mother, Anita, has said her son told her he was on the beach with Holloway but left her there because she wanted to stay.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/12/18/holloway.case/index.html
I guess most girls who have to be driven to a distant location decide to stay, ...especially when they know they have to catch a flight the next morning. ::) That has got to be one of the flimsiest explainations I've ever heard in a long time. It's right up there with "I've got a wide stance", ...and "I feared for my life so I offered to pay him so I could pleasure him orally"
Who makes up these excuses for people?
According to lawyers for the suspect(s) the re-arrest and "new evidence" was based on internet conversations between them, and was basically only a fishing expedition. But according to the lawyers, "The fish didn't bite". Last I heard, the investigation is now officially closed.
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Looks like these boys got away with murder. :-\
Holloway suspect wrote teen was dead, prosecutor says
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) -- One of three top suspects in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway wrote during an Internet chat session that the teenager was dead, Aruba's chief prosecutor said Thursday.
Prosecutor Hans Mos refused to identify the person who wrote the message but said its discovery had contributed to the decision to re-arrest Joran van der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe last month.
The men were subsequently released after they refused to speak to authorities about newly uncovered evidence. The Aruba Public Prosecutor's Office said Tuesday it will not charge the three.
Mos said their re-arrests had been warranted by the circumstantial evidence, including statements from witnesses who said the three behaved strangely in the hours after Holloway vanished at age 18 on May 30, 2005, during an Aruba vacation with her Alabama high school graduating class.
Mos refused to reveal details of other evidence that he said was gathered through new investigative techniques and a listening device planted in one of the suspects' homes. Mos said van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers remain "the primary three persons of interest."
"Any and all leads and new evidence will be investigated," Mos said.
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/12/20/aruba.holloway.ap/index.html
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Source: Prosecutor seeks arrest in Holloway case
(CNN) -- Aruba's chief public prosecutor has requested that a suspect in the Natalee Holloway case be arrested for a third time based on new evidence, a source familiar with the investigation told CNN.
Joran van der Sloot in November, awaiting transfer from the Netherlands to Aruba. He was later released.
Hans Mos expects to hear a ruling from a judge as soon as Saturday or Sunday on the request regarding Joran van der Sloot, the source said.
If the judge rules in favor of the request, van der Sloot -- who is attending college in the Netherlands -- would be brought back to Aruba for further questioning and investigation, the source said.
There was no request for the rearrest of brothers Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had previously been named as suspects in the investigation.
Earlier Friday, Mos' office announced prosecutors were reopening their probe into Holloway's vanishing after seeing tapes recorded by Dutch journalist Peter R. de Vries, The Associated Press reported.
"The recordings made available to the Public Prosecutor have given the Public Prosecutor a reason to reopen the investigation," the office said, according to the AP.
Mos' office said Thursday it had "intensified" its investigation of the Holloway case because of the information from de Vries.
De Vries said that in an undercover camera operation, "we've found what became of Natalee and who's responsible." The report is scheduled to be broadcast Sunday on Dutch television.
But van der Sloot -- in a telephone interview from Holland -- told the Dutch television show "Pauw and Witteman" on Friday that he lied when he said he was involved in Holloway's disappearance, said one of his attorneys, Joe Tacopina.
"Joran maintains his innocence," Tacopina told CNN.
Mos' office said information provided by de Vries "may shed a new light on the mode of which Natalee Holloway has died and the method by which her body disappeared."
Tacopina, however, derided Mos' office for "issuing press releases that say nothing."
"We have been down this road before, where they say they have new evidence ... but claim they won't go into details [and] then it turns out they have nothing," he said.
De Vries last month interviewed van der Sloot on Dutch public broadcaster NPS.
After the interview, van der Sloot threw wine in the reporter's face. De Vries told the syndicated news program "Inside Edition" that the youth and his mother later apologized. Watch as van der Sloot tosses the drink at the journalist »
Holloway, 18, disappeared in 2005 while visiting Aruba with about 100 classmates celebrating their graduation from Mountain Brook High School in suburban Birmingham, Alabama.
She was last seen leaving the nightclub with van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers. She failed to show up for her flight home the following day, and her packed bags were found in her hotel room.
All three suspects were arrested and released in the case in 2005. They were re-arrested last November, with authorities citing new and incriminating evidence against them. See how the case has developed »
However, judges ruled the new evidence was not enough to keep the suspects behind bars.
In freeing the Kalpoes from jail November 30, judges from Aruba's Court of Appeal wrote that there was no evidence Holloway died as a result of a violent crime against her or that the suspects were involved in such a crime. Using similar reasoning, a judge released van der Sloot a week later.
After their release, Mos said he would not prosecute them. Under Aruban law, that meant the three could not legally be considered suspects, but Mos said in December that they remained persons of interest.
All three have maintained their innocence in Holloway's disappearance.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/02/01/aruba.holloway/index.html
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Those little brown boys are lucky that little white boy was with them the night that girl got dead.
The "victim" has spoken. ::)
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Natalee Holloway's dad reveals he found human remains in Aruba
Published August 16, 2017
Fox News
The father of Natalee Holloway, the American woman who vanished in Aruba 12 years ago, revealed Wednesday that he and an investigator made a shocking discovery behind a house: human remains.
Dave Holloway and investigator T.J. Ward said on NBC's “Today” that following a renewed 18-month probe, the remains will be DNA-tested to see if they are a match with the Alabama 18-year-old who disappeared while on a graduation trip in 2005.
The DNA test will take several weeks to a month.
No one has ever been charged in her disappearance.
Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man the teen was last seen with outside a bar, is serving a 28-year sentence in a Peru jail for killing business student Stephany Flores — a murder that came five years to the day after Natalee’s disappearance.
Natalee’s father said an informant who lived with a friend of van der Sloot gave a tip which lead to the remains.
“[He] had information that took us to a spot where remains were found. And we took those remains and had those remains tested,” Holloway said on “Today.” “We’ve chased a lot of leads and this one is by far the most credible lead I’ve seen in the last 12 years.”
Ward and Dave Holloway are taking part in a new TV series, "The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway," which premieres this weekend on the Oxygen network.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08/16/natalee-holloways-dad-reveals-found-human-remains-in-aruba.html
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Natalee Holloway's dad reveals he found human remains in Aruba
Published August 16, 2017
Fox News
The father of Natalee Holloway, the American woman who vanished in Aruba 12 years ago, revealed Wednesday that he and an investigator made a shocking discovery behind a house: human remains.
Dave Holloway and investigator T.J. Ward said on NBC's “Today” that following a renewed 18-month probe, the remains will be DNA-tested to see if they are a match with the Alabama 18-year-old who disappeared while on a graduation trip in 2005.
The DNA test will take several weeks to a month.
No one has ever been charged in her disappearance.
Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man the teen was last seen with outside a bar, is serving a 28-year sentence in a Peru jail for killing business student Stephany Flores — a murder that came five years to the day after Natalee’s disappearance.
Natalee’s father said an informant who lived with a friend of van der Sloot gave a tip which lead to the remains.
“[He] had information that took us to a spot where remains were found. And we took those remains and had those remains tested,” Holloway said on “Today.” “We’ve chased a lot of leads and this one is by far the most credible lead I’ve seen in the last 12 years.”
Ward and Dave Holloway are taking part in a new TV series, "The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway," which premieres this weekend on the Oxygen network.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08/16/natalee-holloways-dad-reveals-found-human-remains-in-aruba.html
I hope to hell they aren't doing this to pimp their new TV show.
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I read this today. I guess in a few weeks we will know if it's her. It's got to be. A dude said he helped him dispose of her body and then they find a decomposed body there? Closure for the parents, although it doesn't make it easier. This vandersloot character needs to be hanged. Other than the two we know about, I wonder how many girls he killed?
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I hope to hell they aren't doing this to pimp their new TV show.
Didn't think about that. I hope not.
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I read this today. I guess in a few weeks we will know if it's her. It's got to be. A dude said he helped him dispose of her body and then they find a decomposed body there? Closure for the parents, although it doesn't make it easier. This vandersloot character needs to be hanged. Other than the two we know about, I wonder how many girls he killed?
I was thinking that about van der Sloot too. He probably would have killed again if he wasn't locked up.
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who gives a shit about a murder in Aruba
How is this a political topic?
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who gives a shit about a murder in Aruba
How is this a political topic?
I'm sure her family and friends do. Not sure why it's on this board though.
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Natalee Holloway's father speaks out on human remains discovery: 'I was shocked'
By Stephanie Nolasco
Published August 18, 2017
Fox News
It’s been 12 years since American student Natalee Holloway vanished on May 30, 2005 while on a high school graduation trip to Aruba — and human remains that were discovered by her father and a private investigator are bringing her story back to life.
However, Dave Holloway isn’t feeling too optimistic of what DNA results might unveil, which could take up to a month.
“You always have your doubts,” he told Fox News. “I put myself in a position where there could be great disappointment… I was so defensive about getting hurt or even testing… And so when the test came back and showed they were human remains, I was shocked.”
He added, “We’ve chased a lot of leads and you have your hopes up, but when they fall through, you basically go to a funeral. Over and over again. So you have a wall built up, which I do, and so you just wait and see and try not to think about it. And that’s the only way I can cope with it. I’m sure when that day comes very soon I’ll probably be disappointed once again, if it’s not [Natalee’s].”
The lead first came from an informant named Gabriel, who befriended the former roommate of Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man the 18-year-old was last seen with outside a bar before her disappearance.
Joran, now 30, is currently serving a 28-year sentence in a Peruvian jail for killing business student Stephany Flores — a murder that occurred five years to the day after Natalee’s disappearance.
Dave’s quest to find out what happened to his daughter, alongside private investigator T.J. Ward, is chronicled in a series titled “The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway” on the Oxygen channel premiering Saturday. The remains found in Aruba were proven to be human just a week ago.
While Dave has spent the last 12 years following every lead he’s received, the one he encountered in late 2015 was different.
Gabriel first met the man at a casino, quickly earning his friendship and trust in a matter of months. It was then that Gabriel decided to track down Dave and give him a call.
“He said, ‘Look, I’ve been in contact with someone who’s apparently directly involved in the disappearance of your daughter,’” Dave recalled. “I have two daughters of my own and I know that if something happened to them, I’d hope I get the same kind of response… I already called the FBI, they didn’t return my calls. I called [Natalee’s mother] Beth, she hasn’t returned my call. And now I’ve called you. Just give me five minutes of your time and I’ll tell you all that I know.'
"And he did… I asked T.J. to look into this and get more information and determine whether or not we should pursue it. Because we pursued a lot of leads and they ended up nowhere. So that’s what he did. He met up with Gabriel, interviewed him, and told me, ‘Dave, this guy knows enough. We’ve got to pursue this until the end.’”
According to Gabriel, Joran attempted to kiss Natalie after her drink was spiked with date rape drug GHB. However, when Natalie began to foam at the mouth, he panicked and she fatally choked on her vomit. Within a few hours, a frightened Joran asked his father, Paulus van der Sloot, for help.
The judge in training allegedly stomped on her legs and placed Natalee’s folded corpse in a burlap sack. From there, they drove to an Aruban park where she was buried. They planted a cactus over the spot to cover their tracks. Paulus reportedly instructed his son never to say a word about what happened. However, Joran allegedly confessed to his friend in confidence.
“They lived together for several months and during those months, Joran shared a lot of information with him that is not public knowledge… And that’s one of the reasons we pursued this," claimed Dave.
Paulus passed away in 2010 from a heart attack at age 57.
Relying on their new information, Dave and T.J. made several trips to Aruba and ended up collecting evidence that tested positive for human remains. Dave also noted that there wasn’t immediate movement from law enforcement concerning their discovery.
“We haven’t heard a word,” he claimed. “I can’t answer that question because you have to go back to 2005… [Back then], I figure, these are police, they know what they’re talking about… Their direction in how they operate is [that] there’s no sense of urgency. So I’m just wondering if we’re dealing with the same thing right now.”
And while reliving the loss of his daughter on camera was painful, the still-grieving father believes the press will continue to keep the case alive.
“The media has always been great to us and has really kept the investigation on track,” he said. “And if this turns out to be true, we need some documentation because of what we’ve experienced in the past… I learned from my mistakes in 2005 that when I go to the island, there’s going to be a camera and we’re going to document things. And that’s exactly what we did. And it started probably in February or March of this year.”
While Dave is trying not to wonder whether those remains are of his child, he is certain of one thing if the DNA test comes back positive.
“If it is Natalee, then that’s the end for me and my family. I mean, that’s the end. We finally found out what happened and it’s resolved,” he said.
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Dave Holloway with T.J. Ward (Courtesy of Oxygen)
And Dave believes he will someday find out what happened. In 2014, PEOPLE Magazine reported Joran will face U.S. criminal charges sometime in 2038 after he served his Peruvian sentence. He is accused of extortion for taking $25,000 from Natalee’s mother in exchange for false information.
But despite the newfound interest in Natalee’s story, Dave also hopes people will discover who she was before Aruba.
“Natalee was an all-American kid,” he said. “Straight A student. Very pretty girl. Had her life and goals already planned out. She was going to go to the University of Alabama with a scholarship… You know, her goal was to be a pediatrician and there’s no doubt in my mind that if this haven’t happened in Aruba, we’d be calling her Dr. Holloway… And in a blink of an eye, all those hopes and dreams were gone forever.”
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/08/18/natalee-holloways-father-says-if-found-human-remains-are-hers-then-thats-end-for-me.html
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Wonder if true about FBI and Ms. Holloway not returning call or calls. If so, why.
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Natalee Holloway's final hours: New clues surface in teen's disappearance
Published August 21, 2017
Fox News
One of the Alabama high school students who was with Natalee Holloway on the 2005 graduation trip to Aruba during which she vanished is revealing new details about the final hours before her friend’s disappearance.
When Jessica Caiola saw then-18-year-old Natalee Holloway being driven away in a car after a night out on their vacation, she said she assumed her classmate found a ride back to the hotel where the group of teens was staying.
In an interview with Oxygen, Caiola said the two girls left "Carlos ‘n Charlie’s," a local bar, to catch a shuttle back to the hotel.
While they stopped to order some street food, Caoila said she looked up and saw Holloway being driven away in a white car.
“The window was down so we could see it was her in the back of the car,” she said in the interview. “My impression was, ‘Oh, great, she found a ride back to the hotel.’”
COULD THE HUMAN REMAINS FOUND IN ARUBA BE NATALEE HOLLOWAY? EXPERTS WEIGH IN
Holloway never returned to the hotel with her friends, who said they didn’t realize she was missing until the next morning.
Her body hasn’t been found, but her father, Dave Holloway, has never stopped searching for answers.
In fact, Holloway’s father, Dave, revealed new information in the case on NBC's “Today” last week, saying a tip from a man who claimed to have helped dispose of her body 12 years ago led to the discovery of unidentified human remains behind a house in Aruba, calling it a “major discovery.”
The bones are being tested for DNA and the results could take up to a month, he said.
Investigators and Natalee’s family said they've long suspected that Joran van der Sloot was responsible for her disappearance. He has never faced trial in connection with the case but he is currently serving a 28-year sentence for an unrelated murder in Peru.
NATALEE HOLLOWAY: A DECADE OF MYSTERY
In the Oxygen series, Caiola said she remembered van der Sloot being at "Carlos ‘n Charlies" the night of Holloway’s disappearance.
“He was absolutely at Carlos ‘n Charlie’s, 1000 percent,” said Caiola. “Natalee and I were actually talking at the bar and interacting and having a good time.”
He was also seen around the group of teens earlier at various points throughout their trip, she said.
“I remember seeing Joran van der Sloot at the casino at our hotel,” she said. “That was the first time I saw him and I remember chatter of him, like, ‘He’s so cute. Who’s going to hook up with him?’ Those sort of things were floating around. That was probably the extent to which I got close to him.”
Caoila also discussed taking some of the last photographs of Holloway on that final night at the bar, saying she wanted to "remember" the moment.
"I never took a photo of Natalee before that night," Caiola said.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08/21/natalee-holloways-final-hours-new-clues-surface-in-teens-disappearance.html
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Human remains found in search for Natalee Holloway belong to female of eastern European descent, tests show
Published August 24, 2017
Fox News
Human remains that were discovered in Aruba, where Natalee Holloway vanished 12 years ago, belonged to a female of eastern European descent, tests showed.
The remains will be tested further to determine if they are those of Holloway and the results were expected within the next two weeks, according to the Daily Mail.
Holloway, 18, a straight A-student from Mountain Brook, Ala., disappeared from the island while celebrating her high school graduation.
The Daily Mail said her family had eastern European heritage.
The discovery of the remains that may be those of Holloway was to be revealed in the docu-series “The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway.” The Oxygen series follows Holloway’s father, Dave, and private investigator T.J. Ward in their quest to find Natalee on the tropical island.
COULD THE HUMAN REMAINS FOUND IN ARUBA BE NATALEE HOLLOWAY? EXPERTS WEIGH IN
“We did an 18-month undercover investigation with an informant who was friends with an individual who had personal knowledge from Joran van der Sloot,” Dave Holloway told the Today Show last week.
Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch national, has long been considered a suspect in the case.
“And had information that took us to a spot where remains were found. And we took those remains and had those remains tested. And they just returned last week they are human remains,” Holloway said.
The Daily Mail reported that Holloway’s mother, Beth, gave a saliva sample to help with the testing.
"So far all the indicators are that these bone fragments are the human remains of a young female, consistent with someone of eastern European descent,” an unidentified source told the Daily Mail.
“It will be agonizing if Dave and Beth are told this is their daughter, but after 12 years of searching for answers it will be a huge deal for them - it might finally bring them closure,' the source continued.
NATALEE HOLLOWAY’S FINAL HOURS: NEW CLUES SURFACE IN TEEN’S DISAPPEARANCE
During their investigation, Holloway and Ward have discovered that Natalee was apparently last seen outside a bar before her disappearance with Van der Sloot, whom she met while on her trip. Holloway and Ward discovered the information through an informant named Gabriel who was roommates with John Ludwick, Van der Sloot’s best friend.
Gabriel said Van der Sloot tried to kiss Natalee after her drink was spiked with the date rape drug GHB but the teen started to foam at the mouth. Natalee choked to death on her vomit and Van der Sloot panicked and allegedly put her body in a burlap sack and buried her in an Aruban park, using a cactus plant to cover his tracks.
Van der Sloot allegedly confessed to his friend in confidence.
“They lived together for several months and during those months, Joran shared a lot of information with him that is not public knowledge. … And that’s one of the reasons we pursued this,” David Holloway said.
Van der Sloot is currently in a Peruvian prison serving a 28-year sentence for killing business student Stephany Flores just five days after Natalee vanished.
Gabriel also said that Van der Sloot was assisted by his father, Paulus, a judge in Aruba, in disposing of Natalee’s body, according to the Daily Mail.
Aruba Public Prosecutor Dorean Kardol disputed Holloway’s claims that human remains were found on the island.
“During an investigation by police in an area indicated by Mr. Holloway, we found remains, but they were found to be from animals,” Kardol said.
Fox News’ Frank Miles contributed to this report.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08/24/human-remains-found-in-search-for-natalee-holloway-belong-to-female-eastern-european-descent-tests-show.html
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Aruba Public Prosecutor Dorean Kardol disputed Holloway’s claims that human remains were found on the island.
“During an investigation by police in an area indicated by Mr. Holloway, we found remains, but they were found to be from animals,” Kardol said.
Did they do their "investigation" before, or was it after, Holloway's ppl did their own work in the area?
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IMO it must've been after, and it could be Holloway's only reason for bothering to contact the failed "authorities" was to cover himself against potential trouble in the future. He needs to keep it straight on that island, at least for now.
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Natalee Holloway's mom sues NBC's Oxygen over claims series found her daughter's remains
By Sasha Savitsky | Fox News
Natalee Holloway's mom is suing Oxygen Media saying the network used false pretenses to get a sample of her DNA.
In the lawsuit, obtained by TMZ, Beth Holloway claims the NBC-owned channel told her that people associated with a docuseries about her daughter discovered what they believed were Natalee Holloway's remains in Aruba. As a result, the show requested a DNA sample from Beth Holloway. The sample was used during the taping of Oxygen's six-part docuseries titled "The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway."
Natalee Hollyway went missing in Aruba in 2005. A judge declared her dead in 2012.
Her mother states she believed the show had found her daughter's remains and therefore gave Oxygen a saliva sample. However, the skeletal remains did not end up belonging to Natalee.
In fact, only one out of the four bone samples tested were found to be human remains.
Her mother claims in the lawsuit that Oxygen lied to her and that she would never have participated in the series or provided DNA sample if she had known the truth.
A rep for Oxygen did not immediately return Fox News' request for comment.
Natalee's father, Dave Holloway, was a big part of the series. Beth and Dave Holloway divorced in 1993, long before their daughter vanished.
Dave Holloway traveled to Aruba with private investigator T.J. Ward for 18 months to search for Natalee's body.
Natalee's father spoke to Fox News in August 2017 while awaiting the DNA test results. He told us at the time he was not optimistic it would yield answers.
"We’ve chased a lot of leads and you have your hopes up, but when they fall through, you basically go to a funeral. Over and over again," he said. "So you have a wall built up, which I do, and so you just wait and see and try not to think about it. And that’s the only way I can cope with it. I’m sure when that day comes very soon I’ll probably be disappointed once again, if it’s not [Natalee's]."
Joran Van der Sloot, a Dutch national, has long been considered a suspect in the case.
In the Oxygen series, Dave Holloway met with “an informant who was friends with an individual who had personal knowledge from Joran van der Sloot."
Van der Sloot is currently in a Peruvian prison serving a 28-year sentence for killing business student Stephany Flores. Flores was killed just five years after Natalee Holloway vanished.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/02/05/natalie-holloways-mom-sues-nbcs-oxygen-over-claims-series-found-her-daughters-remains.html
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Natalee Holloway's dad defends controversial Oxygen series following ex-wife's $35M lawsuit
By Stephanie Nolasco | Fox News
Natalee Holloway’s father is denying his ex-wife’s claims that a TV show he participated in about their missing daughter was scripted.
Dave Holloway, an insurance agent in Meridian, Mississippi, was involved in last year’s six-part docu-series titled “The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway” that aired on Oxygen Media.
The show, produced by Los Angeles-based Brian Graden Media, aimed to present an accurate representation of the Alabama-based teen’s journey to Aruba to check a possible lead about her disappearance, claimed Dave.
However, his ex-wife Beth Holloway filed a $35 million federal lawsuit earlier this week against Oxygen Media and Brian Graden Media, calling the show a fake documentary. Beth claimed the series wrongly raised her hopes about finding out what happened during Holloway's ill-fated trip.
For the series, Dave traveled to Aruba with private investigator T.J. Ward for 18 months to search for Holloway’s remains.
Holloway went missing in Aruba in 2005 during a senior trip to the island. A judge declared her dead in 2012. Beth and Dave Holloway divorced in 1993, long before their daughter vanished.
“I am proud of the work and depiction of the show, and even though it wasn’t the outcome we had all hoped for, I am glad the world was able to get an inside look of what any father would do if there was even the slightest chance of finding his missing child,” Holloway said in a release Friday.
Beth also added in the lawsuit she believed the show had found her daughter’s remains and therefore gave Oxygen a saliva sample. However, the skeletal remains did not end up belonging to Natalee.
In fact, only one out of the four bone samples found and tested were human remains.
A rep for Oxygen told Fox News they were "disappointed to learn of the complaint and its inaccurate depiction of how the series was produced, and we want to reiterate our deep compassion and sympathy for all members of the Holloway family."
Their statement continued, "The documentary series was developed by a production company in close collaboration with Dave Holloway and his long-time private investigator. The show followed his continued search to find answers about his daughter Natalee from a lead he had received. We had hoped, along with Mr. Holloway, that the information was going to provide closure."
Dave spoke to Fox News in August 2017 while awaiting the DNA test results. Dave admitted at the time he was not optimistic it would yield answers.
"We’ve chased a lot of leads and you have your hopes up, but when they fall through, you basically go to a funeral. Over and over again," he explained. "So you have a wall built up, which I do, and so you just wait and see and try not to think about it. And that’s the only way I can cope with it. I’m sure when that day comes very soon I’ll probably be disappointed once again, if it’s not [Natalee's]."
Joran Van der Sloot, a Dutch national, has long been considered a suspect in the case.
In the Oxygen series, Dave met with “an informant who was friends with an individual who had personal knowledge from Joran van der Sloot."
Van der Sloot is currently in a Peruvian prison serving a 28-year sentence for killing business student Stephany Flores. Flores was killed just five years after Natalee Holloway vanished.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/02/09/natalee-holloways-dad-defends-controversial-oxygen-series-following-ex-wifes-35m-lawsuit.html
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Man who claimed he cremated Natalee Holloway killed while attempting kidnapping, police say
By Samuel Chamberlain | Fox News
Authorities in southwestern Florida said Wednesday that a man who claimed he disposed of missing teenager Natalee Holloway's remains in Aruba was fatally stabbed by a woman he was trying to kidnap.
Police in North Port, approximately 60 miles south of Tampa, said 32-year-old John Christopher Ludwick was pronounced dead at a local hospital after 7 a.m. Investigators say Ludwick attacked the unidentified woman in her driveway and was stabbed in the ensuing struggle.
Authorities said Ludwick and his would-be victim knew each other, but declined to elaborate.
Natalee Holloway was declared legally dead in 2012, seven years after her disappearance.
Last year, Ludwick claimed that Joran van der Sloot -- the prime suspect in Holloway's disappearance -- paid him $1,500 to dig up her body in 2010, five years after the 18-year-old vanished on the Dutch Caribbean island.
"The idea was to crush everything to the point where it wasn’t recognizable as her bones or skull or anything like that," Ludwick said at the time. He added that Holloway's skull was burned to eliminate any remaining hair fibers, saying: "It was doused in gasoline in a fire pit in a cave."
NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOM SUES NBC'S OXYGEN OVER CLAIMS SERIES FOUND HER DAUGHTER'S REMAINS
Ludwick's story was featured in "The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway," a miniseries that aired this past September on the Oxygen network.
Holloway was declared legally dead in 2012. No one has ever been charged in connection with her disappearance. Van der Sloot is currently serving a 28-year sentence in a Peruvian prison for the unrelated 2010 murder of a young woman in his Lima hotel room.
"We are aware of Mr. Ludwick’s history and comments surrounding the disappearance of Natalee Ann Holloway in Aruba during May of 2005,” North Point Police spokesman Josh Taylor stated. “The correct authorities who are working that case have been notified. Our investigation in this local case is ongoing."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/14/man-who-claimed-cremated-natalee-holloway-killed-while-attempting-kidnapping-police-say.html
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Fucked up thing is that I was in Aruba when the disappearance took place. I was at the then Tamarijn hotel.
My heart and soul are at peace knowing that that piece of shit is getting fucked up the ass every single day of his miserable life.
I'm 100% sure that once he is released, the Flores' family will have a paid assassin waiting for him and giving him a nice Colombian necktie.
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Fucked up thing is that I was in Aruba when the disappearance took place. I was at the then Tamarijn hotel.
My heart and soul are at peace knowing that that piece of shit is getting fucked up the ass every single day of his miserable life.
I'm 100% sure that once he is released, the Flores' family will have a paid assassin waiting for him and giving him a nice Colombian necktie.
Wow. Pretty creepy to be there when it happened. I would have been a little shaken.
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Fucked up thing is that I was in Aruba when the disappearance took place. I was at the then Tamarijn hotel.
My heart and soul are at peace knowing that that piece of shit is getting fucked up the ass every single day of his miserable life.
I'm 100% sure that once he is released, the Flores' family will have a paid assassin waiting for him and giving him a nice Colombian necktie.
I don't doubt he takes plenty for the team, and that he just loves it, but the prisons there tmk aren't quite as terrible as it should seem for that area of the world. He pretty much skated on everything, including his sentence. He lives in something similar to a dorm room and continues to be a punk bitch as much as possible. His father, I do believe was a judge, and who had something to do with protecting him (imo) died from a heart attack which might've been related to stress. It reminds me of Kelly Ryan's mom, who basically went nuts after Kelly went to prison, and who died by way of a similar fate.
Kids today!! >:( What shall we do?
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And the girl's dad must be getting very old by now. If he wanted to fix Sloot's wagon he should've done it by now. The prison would be good cover, for sure.
No, I think The Sloot will look to profit off his knowledge of the crime once he's back out. I'm sure he's quite irritating IRL, though, so it's not to say someone won't get to him just for practice or principle. He should know that a certain "hero" aspect to psychology will cause him to be marked for attack. Maybe toning down his pathological irreverence would be a good idea.
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Btw, Aruban prosecution claimed "no human" remains were in the area of interest -- and yet it turned out there was.
What does that say about them? ???
For one thing, it's hard to believe anything they say. Very difficult to place confidence in them. It reminds me of a story a guy once told about visiting Jamaica and being herded off the road in his car by a police barrier. The cop was so dim as to actually hold the guy's driving permit upside down while pretending to be able to read. Not too confidence-boosting, for sure.
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Joran van der Sloot has confessed to killing Natalee Holloway
Natalee Holloway was killed on an Aruba beach after refusing Joran van der Sloot's unwanted sexual advances
By Adam Sabes , Michael Ruiz Fox News
Published October 18, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/us/judge-says-joran-van-der-sloot-confessed-killing-natalee-holloway
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Good! Sloot is trash!
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