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New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« on: November 21, 2007, 04:51:42 PM »
This was a long time coming.  Will be interesting to see what the "new evidence" is.  

New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
 
(CNN) -- Authorities have re-arrested three men in connection with the disappearance of an Alabama teenager in Aruba in 2005, based on new evidence in the case, prosecutors announced Wednesday.

1 of 4  Brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe were arrested in Aruba at the same time authorities in the Netherlands picked up Joran Van der Sloot at the request of the Aruban government, the statement said. Van der Sloot is attending school in Holland.

The three had previously been arrested in 2005, Aruban prosecutors noted in a statement, but a court released them, citing insufficient evidence.

They are now charged with "involvement in the voluntary manslaughter of Natalee Holloway or causing serious bodily harm to Natalee Holloway, resulting in her death," the statement said.  Watch what led up to Wednesday's arrests »

Van der Sloot, now 20, and the Kalpoes, now ages 24 and 21, were the last people seen with Holloway, 18, as she left Carlos n' Charlie's nightclub in Oranjestad, Aruba, about 1:30 a.m. on May 30, 2005. All three men have maintained their innocence in her disappearance.

No information was immediately available about what the new evidence was that led to the arrests.

Aruban prosecutors said a team of detectives from the Netherlands has been reviewing the Holloway case at the request of authorities in Aruba, and had been on the island as late as last month to complete the investigation.

The Kalpoe brothers were being interrogated by Aruban police Wednesday, Aruba prosecutor Dop Kruimel told CNN. They will appear before a judge Friday for a preliminary arrest hearing, in which the judge determines whether the arrest was credible, she said.

The judge can then authorize their being detained for eight more days, meaning police have that much time to produce evidence. The suspects then go before a judge again, she said.

Van der Sloot was arrested in Arnhem, the Netherlands, by Dutch police, Kruimel said. Aruban authorities have asked for him to be extradited to Aruba within eight days.

Because they were not familiar with the case, Dutch police were not questioning Van der Sloot, she said. He will be questioned when he is brought back to Aruba, she said. However, he will appear before a judge Thursday in Arnhem.

When CNN called the Kalpoe household, the person who answered the phone hung up.

Earlier, Van der Sloot's mother, Anita Van der Sloot, told CNN her son had not been arrested, but had only reported to a police station in the Netherlands for questioning Wednesday after receiving a letter asking him to do so.

Anita Van der Sloot said she had spoken to her son briefly from her home in Aruba. She said a Dutch attorney was with him, and she expected him to appear before a judge and be released Thursday.

Meanwhile, a spokeswoman for Holloway's mother, Beth Holloway, said in a statement, "The family is always hopeful when a step in the right direction is made in the case."

Beth Holloway was refusing interviews for now, said spokeswoman Sunny Tillman. She previously was known as Beth Holloway-Twitty, but has returned to using Holloway after a divorce earlier this year.

Natalee Holloway was visiting Aruba with a group of about 100 classmates celebrating their graduation from Mountain Brook High School in suburban Birmingham, Alabama, when she went to Carlos n' Charlie's that night in 2005.

The group had planned to leave for home the following day, and Holloway's packed bags and passport were found in her hotel room after she failed to show up for her flight.

Her disappearance triggered an exhaustive search and investigation and a media sensation in the United States, Aruba, the Netherlands and beyond, but Holloway has never been found.

Aruban authorities have been criticized for their handling of the case. At least 10 men, including Van der Sloot and the Kalpoes, have been arrested and identified as suspects either in Holloway's disappearance or in an alleged cover-up. All were questioned and released.

Legal experts, however, have said differences in the U.S. and Aruban systems should be taken into account. Aruba's criminal justice system is based on Dutch law and a descendant of the Napoleonic code. In Aruba, authorities' reasonable suspicion that someone knows about or is involved in a crime is enough to make an arrest, while magistrates investigate and judges determine a suspect's guilt or innocence. There are no jury trials.

Aruban authorities, meanwhile, have suggested that Holloway may have overdosed on drugs or died of alcohol poisoning.

Beth Holloway and Natalee Holloway's father, Dave Holloway, filed a lawsuit last year against Van der Sloot and his father, Aruban judge Paulus Van der Sloot, in the Supreme Court of the State of New York. The Van der Sloots were served with the suit while on a trip to New York.

However, a judge in August 2006 dismissed the suit, saying New York was an inconvenient forum in which to consider it. It was unclear whether Holloway's parents have pursued legal action elsewhere.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/11/21/holloway.arrest/index.html

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2007, 07:35:59 PM »
I always thought the she died with the kid, and his dad the judge buried her to keep his name out of the news.  the brothers were just some douchebags along for the ride.

It was a tragedy.  But it shows you just how insulated criminals can be from successful prosecution when they just don't rat on each other. 

I would be shocked to see anyone go to jail for this, barring a body found in their back yard.

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2007, 05:37:21 AM »
that joran guy is as guilty as oj simpson, anyone can see he lies his ass off. maybe he aint the killer but he certainly knows more about it.
The holloway was a slut though. so i could care less about her.

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2007, 09:34:58 AM »
American women don't realize that the Caribbean is not the US. In the islands there is no flurting. She probably flashed this Dutch guy, he went nuts, felt like he had game for the night and when she refused his advances he probably raped her and then disposed of the body with the help of his two Punjab compinches.

Hope this teaches American spring breakers to watch out when going outside of the US. If you're a female, drunk, on vacation and look like you're ready to mate, watch out! 'Cause you will get a loooot of attention, and not of the "you have beautiful eyes" kind... if ya know what I mean.

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2007, 11:29:13 AM »
Even if she was sleeping those guys she didn't deserve to die. 

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2007, 01:22:15 PM »
Even if she was sleeping those guys she didn't deserve to die. 

I'm not saying she did. All I'm saying is be careful when you go out there. American chicks are open minded, but it's the same openmindedness that can get them into trouble. Look, if a chick flashes you at the local bar you'll take it as a joke, whereas if they do it to someone at a bar in the Caribbean they might think she wants to mate... and I've seen it happen, to me actually, right in front of my wife.

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2007, 02:48:42 PM »
I'm not saying she did. All I'm saying is be careful when you go out there. American chicks are open minded, but it's the same openmindedness that can get them into trouble. Look, if a chick flashes you at the local bar you'll take it as a joke, whereas if they do it to someone at a bar in the Caribbean they might think she wants to mate... and I've seen it happen, to me actually, right in front of my wife.

Let's assume she flashed three guys at a local bar and actually told them she wanted to have sex with all three, then later changed her mind.  That makes her dumb, but still doesn't warrant a death sentence. 

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2007, 02:51:18 PM »
Arresting based on suspicion is bullshit.  ::)

Tourism probably took a big hit, so they decide to arrest even though they don't really have a case. What a joke.

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2007, 02:52:59 PM »
American women don't realize that the Caribbean is not the US. In the islands there is no flurting. She probably flashed this Dutch guy, he went nuts, felt like he had game for the night and when she refused his advances he probably raped her and then disposed of the body with the help of his two Punjab compinches.

Hope this teaches American spring breakers to watch out when going outside of the US. If you're a female, drunk, on vacation and look like you're ready to mate, watch out! 'Cause you will get a loooot of attention, and not of the "you have beautiful eyes" kind... if ya know what I mean.

C-ya.

Good point.

American girls only get raped and murdered outside the US.

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2007, 02:56:54 PM »
Arresting based on suspicion is bullshit.  ::)

Tourism probably took a big hit, so they decide to arrest even though they don't really have a case. What a joke.

I'll wait and see what the "new evidence" is before concluding they don't have a case.   

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2007, 07:24:36 AM »

There's a statute of limitations on murder in Aruba.  Unreal.

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2007, 10:46:38 AM »
There's a statute of limitations on murder in Aruba.  Unreal.

I cannot believe that is the case in any civilized nation.  Wow.  How many years is it?

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2007, 12:48:13 PM »
Arresting based on suspicion is bullshit.  ::)

Tourism probably took a big hit, so they decide to arrest even though they don't really have a case. What a joke.

Looks like you were right Camel.   :-\

Charges dismissed in Holloway case   

(CNN) -- Authorities in Aruba said Tuesday they have dropped the case against three men in the disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway for lack of sufficient evidence.

Prosecutors won't pursue charges against Deepak Kalpoe, from left, Satish Kalpoe and Joran van der Sloot.

 1 of 2  "No charges will be brought against them," the Aruban Public Prosecutor's Office said in a statement, referring to Joran Van der Sloot, 20, and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, 20 and 21, respectively.

Throughout the investigation, the three maintained their innocence.

Acting on what the statement described as "new evidence" compiled over eight months, authorities last month re-arrested the three men.

But the effort proved fruitless. "The period of custody did not bring the final breakthrough in this investigation," the statement said. "All three suspects claimed their right not to give any statement at all."

The Court of Appeal ruled that there was not enough evidence to show that Holloway died as a result of a violent crime, and it ordered the suspects released.

Since then, the Public Prosecutor's Office concluded there was insufficient evidence to persuade a court "that a crime of violence against Natalee Holloway had been committed nor that her death has been caused by involuntary actions by either of the suspects," the statement said.  See a timeline of how the case has developed »

In addition, it said, there was insufficient evidence to make a case that the high school graduate had been sexually abused.

"The Public Prosecutor's Office expects that if this case would be tried in court it would lead to an acquittal of all three suspects on these various charges," it concluded.

The fact that no body has been found "forms an important deficit" in building a case against the suspects, it said.

"It's a cruel nightmare for those who really want conclusion and meaning to have their hopes raised and inevitably dashed," said Theodore Simon, a Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, lawyer who has followed the case for CNN.

Still, the prosecutor's office and investigators believe "that any scenario beyond the one that implicates these three suspects has either been falsified or is proven to be highly unlikely," the Public Prosecutor's Office said.

The three men were held on suspicion of manslaughter, or assault and battery resulting in Holloway's death, authorities said.

Though the charges have been dismissed, "this does not imply that, if new serious evidence were to be found, this case could never be tried in court again."

It would be possible to so under the statute of limitations, a six-year period for involuntary manslaughter and 12 years for homicide.

All three suspects, who were arrested and released during the initial investigation in 2005, were arrested again November 21, with authorities citing new evidence against them.

That evidence has not been disclosed, but Hans Mos, the chief public prosecutor in the Dutch Caribbean island territory, said at the time the evidence was gathered after re-examining existing information, including cell phone records and text messages exchanged the night Holloway disappeared.

"I'm sad to say that I expected that these recent arrests would not lead to any final conclusions," Simon said.

"The reference to new information has yet to be fully described," he added. "It may give new meaning to the word 'new.' That may be a variation of old information, with perhaps a splinter of something very different."

Holloway has not been seen since she left an Oranjestad, Aruba, nightclub on May 30, 2005, with the three young men. She was 18 at the time, and was on the island with about 100 classmates celebrating their graduation from Mountain Brook High School in suburban Birmingham, Alabama. She failed to show up the following day for her flight home.

The Kalpoes told police they dropped Holloway and van der Sloot off near a lighthouse on the northern tip of the island after they left a nightclub. Van der Sloot's mother, Anita, has said her son told her he was on the beach with Holloway but left her there because she wanted to stay.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/12/18/holloway.case/index.html

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2007, 03:07:41 PM »

Those little brown boys are lucky that little white boy was with them the night that girl got dead.


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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2007, 09:57:02 PM »

Holloway has not been seen since she left an Oranjestad, Aruba, nightclub on May 30, 2005, with the three young men. She was 18 at the time, and was on the island with about 100 classmates celebrating their graduation from Mountain Brook High School in suburban Birmingham, Alabama. She failed to show up the following day for her flight home.

The Kalpoes told police they dropped Holloway and van der Sloot off near a lighthouse on the northern tip of the island after they left a nightclub. Van der Sloot's mother, Anita, has said her son told her he was on the beach with Holloway but left her there because she wanted to stay.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/12/18/holloway.case/index.html

I guess most girls who have to be driven to a distant location decide to stay, ...especially when they know they have to catch a flight the next morning. ::)  That has got to be one of the flimsiest explainations I've ever heard in a long time. It's right up there with "I've got a wide stance", ...and "I feared for my life so I offered to pay him so I could pleasure him orally"

Who makes up these excuses for people?

According to lawyers for the suspect(s) the re-arrest and "new evidence" was based on internet conversations between them, and was basically only a fishing expedition. But according to the lawyers, "The fish didn't bite". Last I heard, the investigation is now officially closed.
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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2007, 12:42:55 PM »
Looks like these boys got away with murder.   :-\

Holloway suspect wrote teen was dead, prosecutor says
     
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) -- One of three top suspects in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway wrote during an Internet chat session that the teenager was dead, Aruba's chief prosecutor said Thursday.

Prosecutor Hans Mos refused to identify the person who wrote the message but said its discovery had contributed to the decision to re-arrest Joran van der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe last month.

The men were subsequently released after they refused to speak to authorities about newly uncovered evidence. The Aruba Public Prosecutor's Office said Tuesday it will not charge the three.

Mos said their re-arrests had been warranted by the circumstantial evidence, including statements from witnesses who said the three behaved strangely in the hours after Holloway vanished at age 18 on May 30, 2005, during an Aruba vacation with her Alabama high school graduating class.

Mos refused to reveal details of other evidence that he said was gathered through new investigative techniques and a listening device planted in one of the suspects' homes. Mos said van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers remain "the primary three persons of interest."

"Any and all leads and new evidence will be investigated," Mos said.

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/12/20/aruba.holloway.ap/index.html

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2008, 06:52:56 PM »
Source: Prosecutor seeks arrest in Holloway case

(CNN) -- Aruba's chief public prosecutor has requested that a suspect in the Natalee Holloway case be arrested for a third time based on new evidence, a source familiar with the investigation told CNN.

Joran van der Sloot in November, awaiting transfer from the Netherlands to Aruba. He was later released.

Hans Mos expects to hear a ruling from a judge as soon as Saturday or Sunday on the request regarding Joran van der Sloot, the source said.

If the judge rules in favor of the request, van der Sloot -- who is attending college in the Netherlands -- would be brought back to Aruba for further questioning and investigation, the source said.

There was no request for the rearrest of brothers Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had previously been named as suspects in the investigation.

Earlier Friday, Mos' office announced prosecutors were reopening their probe into Holloway's vanishing after seeing tapes recorded by Dutch journalist Peter R. de Vries, The Associated Press reported.

"The recordings made available to the Public Prosecutor have given the Public Prosecutor a reason to reopen the investigation," the office said, according to the AP.

Mos' office said Thursday it had "intensified" its investigation of the Holloway case because of the information from de Vries.

De Vries said that in an undercover camera operation, "we've found what became of Natalee and who's responsible." The report is scheduled to be broadcast Sunday on Dutch television.

But van der Sloot -- in a telephone interview from Holland -- told the Dutch television show "Pauw and Witteman" on Friday that he lied when he said he was involved in Holloway's disappearance, said one of his attorneys, Joe Tacopina.

"Joran maintains his innocence," Tacopina told CNN.

Mos' office said information provided by de Vries "may shed a new light on the mode of which Natalee Holloway has died and the method by which her body disappeared."

Tacopina, however, derided Mos' office for "issuing press releases that say nothing."

"We have been down this road before, where they say they have new evidence ... but claim they won't go into details [and] then it turns out they have nothing," he said.

De Vries last month interviewed van der Sloot on Dutch public broadcaster NPS.

After the interview, van der Sloot threw wine in the reporter's face. De Vries told the syndicated news program "Inside Edition" that the youth and his mother later apologized.  Watch as van der Sloot tosses the drink at the journalist »

Holloway, 18, disappeared in 2005 while visiting Aruba with about 100 classmates celebrating their graduation from Mountain Brook High School in suburban Birmingham, Alabama.

She was last seen leaving the nightclub with van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers. She failed to show up for her flight home the following day, and her packed bags were found in her hotel room.

All three suspects were arrested and released in the case in 2005. They were re-arrested last November, with authorities citing new and incriminating evidence against them.  See how the case has developed »

However, judges ruled the new evidence was not enough to keep the suspects behind bars.

In freeing the Kalpoes from jail November 30, judges from Aruba's Court of Appeal wrote that there was no evidence Holloway died as a result of a violent crime against her or that the suspects were involved in such a crime. Using similar reasoning, a judge released van der Sloot a week later.


After their release, Mos said he would not prosecute them. Under Aruban law, that meant the three could not legally be considered suspects, but Mos said in December that they remained persons of interest.

All three have maintained their innocence in Holloway's disappearance.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/02/01/aruba.holloway/index.html

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2008, 09:08:22 PM »
Those little brown boys are lucky that little white boy was with them the night that girl got dead.



The "victim" has spoken.  ::)


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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2017, 05:21:26 PM »
Natalee Holloway's dad reveals he found human remains in Aruba
Published August 16, 2017
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The father of Natalee Holloway, the American woman who vanished in Aruba 12 years ago, revealed Wednesday that he and an investigator made a shocking discovery behind a house: human remains.

Dave Holloway and investigator T.J. Ward said on NBC's “Today” that following a renewed 18-month probe, the remains will be DNA-tested to see if they are a match with the Alabama 18-year-old who disappeared while on a graduation trip in 2005.

The DNA test will take several weeks to a month.

No one has ever been charged in her disappearance.

Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man the teen was last seen with outside a bar, is serving a 28-year sentence in a Peru jail for killing business student Stephany Flores — a murder that came five years to the day after Natalee’s disappearance.

Natalee’s father said an informant who lived with a friend of van der Sloot gave a tip which lead to the remains.

“[He] had information that took us to a spot where remains were found. And we took those remains and had those remains tested,” Holloway said on “Today.” “We’ve chased a lot of leads and this one is by far the most credible lead I’ve seen in the last 12 years.”

Ward and Dave Holloway are taking part in a new TV series, "The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway," which premieres this weekend on the Oxygen network.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08/16/natalee-holloways-dad-reveals-found-human-remains-in-aruba.html

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2017, 05:45:46 PM »
Natalee Holloway's dad reveals he found human remains in Aruba
Published August 16, 2017
Fox News

The father of Natalee Holloway, the American woman who vanished in Aruba 12 years ago, revealed Wednesday that he and an investigator made a shocking discovery behind a house: human remains.

Dave Holloway and investigator T.J. Ward said on NBC's “Today” that following a renewed 18-month probe, the remains will be DNA-tested to see if they are a match with the Alabama 18-year-old who disappeared while on a graduation trip in 2005.

The DNA test will take several weeks to a month.

No one has ever been charged in her disappearance.

Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man the teen was last seen with outside a bar, is serving a 28-year sentence in a Peru jail for killing business student Stephany Flores — a murder that came five years to the day after Natalee’s disappearance.

Natalee’s father said an informant who lived with a friend of van der Sloot gave a tip which lead to the remains.

“[He] had information that took us to a spot where remains were found. And we took those remains and had those remains tested,” Holloway said on “Today.” “We’ve chased a lot of leads and this one is by far the most credible lead I’ve seen in the last 12 years.”

Ward and Dave Holloway are taking part in a new TV series, "The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway," which premieres this weekend on the Oxygen network.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08/16/natalee-holloways-dad-reveals-found-human-remains-in-aruba.html


I hope to hell they aren't doing this to pimp their new TV show.

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2017, 05:51:30 PM »
I read this today. I guess in a few weeks we will know if it's her. It's got to be. A dude said he helped him dispose of her body and then they find a decomposed body there? Closure for the parents, although it doesn't make it easier. This vandersloot character needs to be hanged. Other than the two we know about, I wonder how many girls he killed?

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2017, 05:59:47 PM »
I hope to hell they aren't doing this to pimp their new TV show.

Didn't think about that.  I hope not.

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2017, 06:03:47 PM »
I read this today. I guess in a few weeks we will know if it's her. It's got to be. A dude said he helped him dispose of her body and then they find a decomposed body there? Closure for the parents, although it doesn't make it easier. This vandersloot character needs to be hanged. Other than the two we know about, I wonder how many girls he killed?

I was thinking that about van der Sloot too.  He probably would have killed again if he wasn't locked up. 

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2017, 09:15:51 PM »
who gives a shit about a murder in Aruba

How is this a political topic?

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Re: New evidence brings arrests in teen's Aruba disappearance
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2017, 09:53:45 PM »
who gives a shit about a murder in Aruba

How is this a political topic?

I'm sure her family and friends do. Not sure why it's on this board though.