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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: SirTraps on November 24, 2007, 10:11:32 AM
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I can believe this poundage for someone who deadlifts above 700 pounds on a regular basis, but for most lifters im going to have to call BULLSHIT.
What is the average weight you use when doing barbell shrugs. I think 225-300 pounds is a good/realistic weight. This is strict 6-10 reps-not some crazy leg and back tilt thing done on the smith machine.
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i never do them, they dont feel right. i already have melon sized traps due heavy back training, that should be enough.
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Prefer doing tham on a Hammer Strength machine where the palms face the outer thighs - don't really have a lot of time for the barbell ones but I've never really worked any higher than 400lbs - anything else would just be jerking the weight around with shite form.
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i don`t know....but maybe the wicked truth uses over 800 lbs...?
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I can believe this poundage for someone who deadlifts above 700 pounds on a regular basis, but for most lifters im going to have to call BULLSHIT.
What is the average weight you use when doing barbell shrugs. I think 225-300 pounds is a good/realistic weight. This is strict 6-10 reps-not some crazy leg and back tilt thing done on the smith machine.
Onlyme shrugs his shoulders. Does that count?
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i prefer doing seated dumbbell shrugs, your traps are really isolated and you cannot cheat much. once in a while i would do behind the back bb shrugs in a smith machine just to stimulate the traps with higher weights but even here i do not use much weight, i go up to 2.5 plates per side.
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shrugs are the most badly aboused movement in any gym, it should be banned altogether, always some skinny bitch loading the bar with 6 plates per side and rising up on his toes "shrugging" the weight a quarter of an inch. ::)
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I'd like to see some of these try to hold a five or a ten count on their "reps" when shrugging. I bet their poundages would crash big time.
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I'd like to see some of these try to hold a five or a ten count on their "reps" when shrugging. I bet their poundages would crash big time.
hahahhaa, it's not just skinny newbies either, there was a youtube clip of a pro doing that with six plates per side. ;D
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i use the 130s
i feel dumbells hits it better and is a more honest exercise. There is always someone bb 'shruging' big weights they can't handle.
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this is probably the rock bottom MINIMUM ROM you should be using and even this is too heavy for this guy.
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Paul Kelso recommends doing no less than 15 reps per set with shrugs and holding at the top for a couple seconds.
That being said the most I've ever used was 300 on a barbell for 15 reps holding at the top for 2 seconds or so.
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Coleman's form was the worst ever on Cost of Redemption, he did behind the backs with 735 and barely moved the weight half an inch.
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shrugs are the most badly aboused movement in any gym, it should be banned altogether, always some skinny bitch loading the bar with 6 plates per side and rising up on his toes "shrugging" the weight a quarter of an inch. ::)
exactly. I get sick of these skinny twats doing this cheat shrug shit. A "shrug" to me is not cheated at all. And it doesn't involve the whole body (as opposed to a clean). The lower back and abs stabilize the body, the legs keep you grounded, and the movement is done with the traps. Anything else is just bullshit ego lifting.
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Paul Kelso recommends doing no less than 15 reps per set with shrugs and holding at the top for a couple seconds.
That being said the most I've ever used was 300 on a barbell for 15 reps holding at the top for 2 seconds or so.
Oh really?? Yeah, you're a beast.
I'm trying to work my weak points right now. Chest is the worst, I hit it every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Shoulders are my second weak point, I hit them every Tuesday and Thursday. I hit triceps and legs on Saturday and back on Sunday. I have 19 inch arms already at 10% BF, but my chest doesn't look thick and my shoulders aren't so thick and wide. I've been doing this for a couple months now and I have been able to increase my strength like 10 lbs. of weight every week and a half to two weeks.
My chest workouts are hardcore. I'll start out doing 4 sets with the heaviest weight I can do for 8 reps. I'll take like a 5 minutes break and then do another 4 sets for 10 reps with minus 10 pounds from the previous 4 sets and so on. I'll end up doing 12 sets each for incline, flat, and decline. After bench work I'll do 4 sets of 10 with dumbbell flyes flat, incline, and decline. 48 sets in all 3 times a week for chest. I've never followed bodybuilding until recently, but I just lift and get stronger.
Honeslty, I don't know what my problem is. I've been getting 1.5 grams of protein per bodyweight a day and I've tried doing less sets and more rest days but that still didn't seem to work. I'm not big, but I'm pretty strong. I just want to add size now, but my body doesn't seem to respond.
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monster 14 and a half inch arms.
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You can't deny that I put most Getbigger to shame.
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I can't imagine how good your joints would feel after hitting a set of 500+ lb shrugs
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Yea, im going to have to revise that down, with a dead lift you are using your legs and entire back-along with traps-to isolate the traps and do a true shrug, there are probably a handful of 300+ lb powerlifters who do 550-600 pounds, maybe Kaz and guys like that.
Wait a second, i mean Kaz and the Wicked Truth ::)
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Yea, im going to have to revise that down, with a dead lift you are using your legs and entire back-along with traps-to isolate the traps and do a true shrug, there are probably a handful of 300+ lb powerlifters who do 550-600 pounds, maybe Kaz and guys like that.
Wait a second, i mean Kaz and the Wicked Truth ::)
hahahaha, i thought "wickedtruth" did 700.
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I don't do the "hump the air" shrug, am I going to be OK? :'(
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exactly. I get sick of these skinny twats doing this cheat shrug shit. A "shrug" to me is not cheated at all. And it doesn't involve the whole body (as opposed to a clean). The lower back and abs stabilize the body, the legs keep you grounded, and the movement is done with the traps. Anything else is just bullshit ego lifting.
Id have to disagree with you on the last point. I think "cheating" or power shrugging definitely has a place in an strength athletes regimine.
Jason
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Id have to disagree with you on the last point. I think "cheating" or power shrugging definitely has a place in an strength athletes regimine.
Jason
Is "hump the air" shrug the same as "power" shrugging?
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i honestly don't do shrugs...my traps get hit enough from deadlifts
i hate it when these stupid turds load up the smith machine and do 4 shitty reps of reverse shrugs with 3 plates...but they can barely even do a 225lb deadlift for a single
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Moderate weight power cleans have done more for my traps than even deadlifts, but that's just one white man's opinion.
I have to say though, I feel behind the back upright rows (ala Lee Haney) seem to be the best version for me in terms of shrugs.
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Hell I'd be too tired from loading up 700lbs to even try it.
oh,and the answer would be NO.
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I feel that 700lbs is too light and that shrugs should be more of a lower back movement than anything. When I go sub-700 my calves dont burn enough to feel like I really did anything. :-\
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Is "hump the air" shrug the same as "power" shrugging?
No. I wouldnt think so. Hump the air shrugs usually require a bodyweight below 170 and no fucking clue s to what you're doing. :D
Jason
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exactly. I get sick of these skinny twats doing this cheat shrug shit. A "shrug" to me is not cheated at all. And it doesn't involve the whole body (as opposed to a clean). The lower back and abs stabilize the body, the legs keep you grounded, and the movement is done with the traps. Anything else is just bullshit ego lifting.
Why do you actually care to feel sick of skinny twats doing cheat reps or watever?? Really dont get why anyone would care if someone else does their exercise different, as long as your form is 'perfect' then you will be growing and they wont right??
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I believe that heavy (maybe also partiell reps) shrugs have a good potentiel to stimulate the traps.
Or is here someone who say, "deadlift don`t build traps ?"
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Or is here someone who say, "deadlift don`t build traps ?"
Id like to meet that retard LOL
Jason
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I deadlift over 400, but never go above 315 for shrugs, that's pretty heavy right there, especially if you are really doing the movement properly. Though I much prefer DB shrugs, feels like a more natural hand position.