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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: Bluto on December 01, 2007, 04:10:13 PM
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Isn't it time you get serious?
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I believe training twice a day, 6 times a week is superior to pretty much every training routine out there. There's a number of reasons why we hardly ever hear about it though, people just arn't ready for that kinda commitment to the iron game, it's too demanding, too hardcore, so the magazines doesn't even bring it up.
It's tough enough to get people to go to the gym in the first place, let alone TWICE a day.
But back in the day this was no big thing. Arnold Schwarzenegger at times hit the gym THREE times a day and I bet he made his best gains during these days.
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Two a days are pointless for the average dude who likes to lift, if your a serious competition bodybuilder, then it's a different story....I've done the whole 2 a day thing and I'll never do that again....especially 6 days a week, the best thing I ever did was purchasing a treadmill and eliptical machine, it's so much easier to knock out cardio at home and lift at the gym.
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Two a days are pointless for the average dude who likes to lift, if your a serious competition bodybuilder, then it's a different story....I've done the whole 2 a day thing and I'll never do that again....especially 6 days a week, the best thing I ever did was purchasing a treadmill and eliptical machine, it's so much easier to knock out cardio at home and lift at the gym.
How you gonna get anywhere if you see yourself as a an "average dude" who "likes" to lift?
Thats not what makes champions.
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Lol...I'm no bodybuilding champion, and don't strive to be, I like to lift, I like the sport..somewhat, and I like to look good, thats it. Wasting countless hours in a gym is not my idea of living life my friend. If you are striving to become a professional bb than it's a different story, but I feel content with hitting the gym 4 times a week, and doing cardio 3 days a week at home. I did the whole 2 a day thing and it was pointless...overkill for me, but if you are seriously gunning for the IFBB, then more power to you buddy!
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I'm planning my next twice a day routine as we speak.
Mastermind at work.
I'll get this down to a science.
I'll never ever work out on Sundays though, God forbid.
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I'm planning my next twice a day routine as we speak.
Mastermind at work.
I'll get this down to a science.
I'll never ever work out on Sundays though, God forbid.
when do u find time to train, seems like your posting here all the time..
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Do you compete?
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when do u find time to train, seems like your posting here all the time..
The key is brief workouts at a gym close to you, when I originally was looking for a house I made sure the gym was close nearby.
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Do you compete?
No.
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The key is brief workouts at a gym close to you, when I originally was looking for a house I made sure the gym was close nearby.
How close? You walk there?
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Then why would you go to the gym twice a day for?? Are you really out of shape and trying to really hit it hard to get back into shape?? Whats the reasoning behind this..if you don't mind me asking?
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How close? You walk there?
Yes walking distance. + I got a homegym setup where I can work pretty much anything except for legs.
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Then why would you go to the gym twice a day for?? Are you really out of shape and trying to really hit it hard to get back into shape?? Whats the reasoning behind this..if you don't mind me asking?
Because I've got the mindset of a pro.
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Do you have the physique of a pro?
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Do you have the physique of a pro?
Not by a long shot.
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twice a day, isnt that over training?? maybe ok for a juicer but for a natty??
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I've seriously been considering going to two-a-days, but four days a week....I'm thinking that I will do four days on and three days off to maximize rest...I am 45 so extra rest is needed for me and working out six days a week is out of the question...but two-a-days for four days a week will give me eight workouts per week ..which is more than the four or five that I get now...what do u guys think of this type of workout? I'm thinking of working out Wed, Thurs, Fri, Sat...take off Sun, Mon, Tues,...this way I can relax with family on Sun and be out of the gym at the beginning of the work week when it's most stressful...any thoughts on this program?>Oh by the way, my gym is two blocks from my apartment and eight blocks from work..so this could possibly work out well for me
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twice a day, isnt that over training?? maybe ok for a juicer but for a natty??
It depends on how you set it up - I'm talking about for example doing quads in the morning and hams in the evening. And rarely going to absolute failure.
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i dont do two a days because it makes me eat too much and defeats the purpose of getting ripped
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My cage fighting and modeling takes up most of my time
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Then why are striving for something that is unattainable? Just asking..dude theres alot more to life then lifting weights, I was the same way at one point, then I realized that I was just waisting my time, maybe you need to realize this. Do people that work at your gym look at you like...this guy works out 2 times a day 6 days a week and look like that?? What a waste of time..
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i dont do two a days because it makes me eat too much and defeats the purpose of getting ripped
Yes it might depend on your goals. I'm looking for hypertrophy right now.
Still I can probably see myself going twice even when cutting, but one time being weights and the other cardio.
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With work,family,girlfriend how do you guys find time to go to the gym twice per day, i am finding it tough to go 4 days per week.
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Then why are striving for something that is unattainable? Just asking..dude theres alot more to life then lifting weights, I was the same way at one point, then I realized that I was just waisting my time, maybe you need to realize this. Do people that work at your gym look at you like...this guy works out 2 times a day 6 days a week and look like that?? What a waste of time..
They look at me with fear in their eyes. My body is transforming into a weapon at the anvil, and it's God himself that is the blacksmith.
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I don't have any reasons why not to because I in fact DO hit the gym about twice a day, on at least 3 of the 6 days a week I'm currently making it in there. I don't know if this is where I'll stay, but I'm letting everything regulate itself before I start a real prep and I thought that just going balls out for a little while before backing back off a bit would be a good starter. I still have things that go haywire a few days into my program, I'm looking to get stabilized before I call myself actually prepping. In the meantime I'm still making steady gains, though. I'm finding my present limits and working to temper them.
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With work,family,girlfriend how do you guys find time to go to the gym twice per day, i am finding it tough to go 4 days per week.
4 days a week is fine for ordinary humans.
The key for me is brief workouts (which is entirely possibly due to the fact that it's twice a day, you pretty much cut the workout in half), gyms very close to where you are at and when pressed for time hitting the homegym.
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I really see no limitations here.
I hooked up the gym with a Nautilus pullover machine, did you know this is known as the upperbody Squat?
Can you imagine the lat development of my body once I start to incorporate this fine machine into my routine?
I'm very excited.
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Dude they probably all make fun of you...theres a guy just like you at my gym, he's there everytime I'm there...I'll go at various random times and he's always there, he looks terrible, works out hard too...but the guy has absolutely no life, no broads, no job....come to think of it, he might be you Bluto....is your real name Joe by any chance lol....?
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Dude they probably all make fun of you...theres a guy just like you at my gym, he's there everytime I'm there...I'll go at various random times and he's always there, he looks terrible, works out hard too...but the guy has absolutely no life, no broads, no job....come to think of it, he might be you Bluto....is your real name Joe by any chance lol....?
Whats with the attitude? It's pretty obvious you feel bad that you're not able to hang with the big dudes at the gym and train seriously. And as a result, you will always be mediocre at anything in life and look like a chump.
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With work,family,girlfriend how do you guys find time to go to the gym twice per day, i am finding it tough to go 4 days per week.
Bro I'm single as anyone right now with no kids and it's still all I have to give, I can't make it in there twice a day 6 days a week and that's with no one; just a job holding me back. I kick ass at my job but you know when you're in a successful contest prep you kick ass from daylight to dark no questions asked just every fucking day in everything you do. Most people utilizing 2-a-days do not have full time jobs, or if they do, they are very "cush." It can happen, though. Although I've never seen anyone competing over 225 pounds or so that could pull it off; Ronnie could because his job consisted of his sitting in his patrol car for most of the day eating chicken and talking on the phone. If you're getting up and running around all day there's no way. If anyone knows of any exceptions please mention them, I may be missing some. If we can come up with the number of people who could do it then we will be able to count them on one hand, and they will all be world-class, I'm guessing. I'd think it nearly a miracle being able to do that.
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OK look Bluto's probably fucking with you guys, I know...but I'm being serious here; anyone pulling off a two-a-day that looks good and holds down a real job is an absolute beast; and like I said, I just don't think it happens anywhere over 225.
And yeah it's a pathetic existence if you can't eventually make something of it but this is just a temporary thing for some.
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Haha...ok big guy...I'm perfectly content with the way I look, and the way my life is going..I don't aspire to "hang" with the big dudes at my gym...funny thing is they are the ones who come up to me and ask me for advice and how I'm so lean. Dude, I'm not giving you attitude, I'm trying to understand why anybody would hit the gym twice a day, if they were not a competition bodybuilder, or have some profession dealing with fitness. Dude life is too short, enjoy your life bro! And I bet I look ten times better then you, and I spend half the amount of time in the gym that you do.
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OK look Bluto's probably fucking with you guys, I know...but I'm being serious here; anyone pulling off a two-a-day that looks good and holds down a real job is an absolute beast; and like I said, I just don't think it happens anywhere over 225.
And yeah it's a pathetic existence if you can't eventually make something of it but this is just a temporary thing for some.
I don't see why not, brief workouts, a lot of offices got gyms in the same building so hitting the gym once in the morning or lunch time, then once more after work isn't a big deal. The actual time in the gym isn't more. Possibly even less.
What's the average amount of time spent in front of the television for americans? 6-7 hours a day? Absolute beasts! to be able to do that.
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i work out in the morning and pray to the huge nassar in the evening, does it count as two sessions?
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Haha...ok big guy...I'm perfectly content with the way I look, and the way my life is going..I don't aspire to "hang" with the big dudes at my gym...funny thing is they are the ones who come up to me and ask me for advice and how I'm so lean. Dude, I'm not giving you attitude, I'm trying to understand why anybody would hit the gym twice a day, if they were not a competition bodybuilder, or have some profession dealing with fitness. Dude life is too short, enjoy your life bro! And I bet I look ten times better then you, and I spend half the amount of time in the gym that you do.
You're disrespectful and insulting. And "lean" is just another word for being skinny.
Hope this helps.
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Escape Goat agrees with Jeff
(http://images.filecloud.com/328577/eg_alcatraz.jpg)
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And "big" is just another word for being fat! Big guy!
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i work out in the morning and pray to the huge nassar in the evening, does it count as two sessions?
No but it does miracles for the healing of the central nervous system.
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I don't see why not, brief workouts, a lot of offices got gyms in the same building so hitting the gym once in the morning or lunch time, then once more after work isn't a big deal. The actual time in the gym isn't more. Possibly even less.
What's the average amount of time spent in front of the television for americans? 6-7 hours a day? Absolute beasts! to be able to do that.
No I'm talking about real workouts, real sets, real exercises, real total time spent on the treadmill (read: 1.25-1.5 hours per day, consistently, at a challenging pace).
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And "big" is just another word for being fat! Big guy!
Training twice a day fights fat.
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Quick question, have you ever posted a picture "Big Guy?"
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No I'm talking about real workouts, real sets, real exercises, real total time spent on the treadmill (read: 1.25-1.5 hours per day, consistently, at a challenging pace).
1,5 cut in half is 45 minutes. Anyone who isn't able to hit the gym for 45 minutes or less twice a day should check his priorities in life.
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If you're going to do double sessions, escape goat recommends you pack a big lunch
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My cage fighting and modeling takes up most of my time
Response of the YEAR!
Don't forget you don't have time for the extra shadow boxing either ;D
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My reason is simple, because HUGE Nasser did not train twice a day, except in precontest mode when doing cardio 2x a day.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson324g.jpg)
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My reason is simple, because HUGE Nasser did not train twice a day, except in precontest mode when doing cardio 2x a day.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson324g.jpg)
now i believe in cardio two times a day.
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My reason is simple, because HUGE Nasser did not train twice a day, except in precontest mode when doing cardio 2x a day.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson324g.jpg)
That some unique cardio right there!
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Do you compete?
Closest Blew-two came to bodybuilding is when he signed up for Rodney St.clouds website (G4P section)
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That some unique cardio right there!
indeed
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people who can do two-a-days are crazy!!!..I've tried...I was fried and burnt to a crisp after two weeks
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The key is brief workouts at a gym close to you, when I originally was looking for a house I made sure the gym was close nearby.
I rent an apartment literally across the street from a gym.
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Ok so here goes my first real post regarding anything having to do with working out. I was just talking to someone about this earlier today.
I was at one time given an opportunity at having an extended vacation. During this time I did little else besides eat, rest, read and workout. Upon first arrival, a few others I was on this vacation with asked if I wanted to work out with them. First thing in the morning and just before or after dinner. Usually during the time in between we would be doing our own thing and incorporate some time for push ups, step training, focus mitts, heavy bag... Something....There were all kinds of variances we incorporated as to the way we did things. One morn weights, evening extreme cardio or other way around. Five times a week. Three days on then one rest. Two days on then one rest. At first it was gruelling. When I was first invited to work out with these guys I was just watched by others from a distance. A couple of weeks went by and people were saying they were surprised to see I was still able to work out with them as most people (everyone) quit or were asked to leave. I was just so happy to workout with the equipment we had I wasn't quitting for anything. Not 'everybody' was allowed to use this equipment.
So, this is what happened. At first I was beaten. Totally exhausted. I was encouraged evenso so I kept it up. Over time I adapted. Over a little more it became a way of life and I wasn't 'right' unless I was active in some way all the time. My threshold increased. I got 'strong'. Endurance. Tolerant. It took much more to have me call out pain.
So, if you have time and determination and a purpose for doing two a days I see no harm in doing so. You will get strong for sure. Doing quads in morning and hams in evening doesnt count though imo. That seems pussy to me. I could see doing heavy superset beat the shit out of yourself chest in am then back or even legs in pm with a run for lunch as a real two a day with a bonus in between. haha Once in a while we would do chest and legs both heavy in the same day just to see if we could do it and still work out the next day and not be bitches. Yea we got stronger every day. Thing is with doing this tpe of thing you must (just speaking for myself) make time for LOTS of REST!!!!!!) Yea thats the important thing. That's what I did lots of in between. Fukin loved that shit. Work out, shower, eat, get a book, rub one out and sleepersssssssssss....
Who the fuk in the real world has time for that?
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Nice post from Big-Than-Du. Quite a few very big and strong men have trained twice, and even three or more, times a day. The trick is to keep each workout short and brief, not going to the point of failure. Want the body to adapt to every session, not become burned out quickly by doing too much. Allowing the CNS to recover is the key. Cardio is not included on any lifting day.
Can train opposite or same body parts in a workout day, when doing twice or more. See what the needs and purpose of your workouts are and than design a program for them. A lot of people will work compound exercises in the morning, than in the afternoon/night work triceps & biceps or delts. Or squats in the morning and Hacks or leg presses later on that day. Three times a day is simple to set up, but again short & to the point workouts only. Most Olympic lifters have been known to do this style of training. Good Luck.
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Allowing the CNS to recover is the key.
That
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Absolutely Big-Than-Du. That why approaching the point of failure, the exercise should end. Serious lifters know this. Only ones who don't seem to understand are BB'ers who read too many mags and watch too many make believe workout videos of their hero's. Or get caught up in ego training. Recovery of the CNS will make or break you.
If on 'roids, HGH, etc you may get by with all out efforts most sets. Though even guy's on heavy doses of whatever understand that they don't have to break their balls in any workout.They train hard no doubt, but still have a few reps left after a heavy set. Go to Vegas, SoCal, etc and watch the Big Boy's train and you will see what I mean. Might also suggest that a complete ROM does not exist in their world. More like 1/3 to 1/2 does it. Good Luck
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if you work out like a bodybuilder its very easy to go twice a day...
bench
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Because I'm an ecto and not on a shitload of gear, so i think it will hinder my progress.
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Re: What are the reasons you don't hit the gym twice a day?
Its called "life".
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Because I'm an ecto and not on a shitload of gear, so i think it will hinder my progress.
you dont need gear...and all that ecto, meso stuff is just another excuse..
bench
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you dont need gear...and all that ecto, meso stuff is just another excuse..
bench
Damn what an eye-opener, i will now train 2 times a day 7 days a week, thanks.
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i dont do two a days because it makes me eat too much and defeats the purpose of getting ripped
well naturally you'll eat more. i'm sure though if you eat super clean the cardio will "rip it up baby". ;-)
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are we talking 2 weight sessions per day, or cardio and weights?
all my preps ive got up 5am to do cardio, start work at 7, finish at 3,, weights at 6, followed by more cardio..
7 days a week, 16 weeks....
youd have to be a moron to do this with no end in sight tho!
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that's dedication dude. :) i'm thinking about throwing in a morning gym visit just for a cardio session. and then going again at my normal time (4:00pm) for weights only. looking to gain some definition and i think that would be the least catabolic way to go about it.
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morning cardio was in the house,,,, no 24hr gyms in my part of uk
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are we talking 2 weight sessions per day, or cardio and weights?
all my preps ive got up 5am to do cardio, start work at 7, finish at 3,, weights at 6, followed by more cardio..
7 days a week, 16 weeks....
youd have to be a moron to do this with no end in sight tho!
I wish I could do this.,...I would quickly burn out...whats your diet like?...how are you feeling strength-wise?...are you losing lots of fat?..I would like to try this but i'll wait for your feedback
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i was taking everything i could afford to take,,,, diet was perfect, my strength was pretty much the same on everything apart from squats and deadlfits, but probly more to loosing so much weight, started around 280, ended up 225... last 5lbs are the hardest
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i cant remember the diet perfectly,,,
somthing along the lines of
6.30 80g oats, 60g whey, 5 almonds, 5 bccas
9.00 250g turkey 100g sweet pot, greens, spoon of oil
12.00 250g turkey 100g sweet pot,greens , 5almonds, bccas
3.00 250g turkey 100g sweet pot,greens, spoon of oil
6.30 (pre)60g whey, bannana, 5 bccas
8.30 (post)60g whey,carb drink,5 bccas
9.30 250g turkey, 100g sweet pot, greens, 5 almonds
11.30 45g pro peptide
as the diet progressed the carbs halved, fats stayed the same, as did the protein, for last 4 weeks shakes were taken out, all food
heres before and after, 280 225
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hard to believe there's 55lbs difference in those pics. :o i guess this is a perfect example of how definition creates the illusion of size. *thumbs up* care to talk about which pharmaceuticals you were on?
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16 to 6 weeks..... sus, decca ... gh 8 ius, ephidrene, clen, arimidex
6 weeks to 0........... prop, (tren, prima, masteron) would fill the rest of the barrel with one of these, alternating everyday
1o stromba, 10 dbol, 10 anavar ed
1 nolva, 1 arimidex ed
liquid clen, ephidrene ed
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interesting and insightful. although i'm scared of hgh bc of rumored distended belly look.
did you drop the dbol six weeks out? it's notorious for water retention.
what is "stromba"?
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nah, kept the orals in the full 6 weeks, water retention wasnt realy a problem, with clean diet, cardio and all the anti estrogens,,, plus youl loose all that water when you dry out anyway
stromba is oral winstrol
gh wont distend your belly unless you use huge amounts along side insulin
if i were to compete again id change the injections round to have more tren and masteron to test ratio, and drop the prima completely
for the orals i would change the dbol for halo in the last 2 weeks