What happened to the other threads about your show? I was a away for a bit and can't see them anymore. ???
No one gives a shit anymore.
Good luck in getting 6th you old fuck.
.....I'll let you know how you did later when the time is right......but for the haters who focused on the negitive, lets see some comparisons....Not "Zane-like" of course..
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Flame on :D
LOL...here we go, it didn't take long!!
I'll go to Milos when I decide to commit chemical suicide, thanks anyway
BTW, thats one hell of a gut in the 4th pic isn't it...hahahahahahahah!
Flame on :D
IMHO, as someone pointed out in the previous thread, you looked very soft from the back, joelocal.I have seen fitness competitiors with the same problem soft glutes and hamstrings.
This is what I sent to Ron, I'm done here.
Ron, as I've said, I am "retiring" from Getbig and BBing after my show, I have decided to
take an even even earlier "retirement" from Getbig. As of TODAY, please delete my account,
this is not an irrational decision, it's just time, it's been a great 6-7 years, have had alot of
fun and met many people on here and some who I call my friends. It's been a fun ride.
Joe
Joe looked great
I dunno... your bodybuilding standards are, how do you Americans say, in the gutter?if you call this "in the gutter" i'd love to see a picture of you, come on man post one up. :D
I dunno... your bodybuilding standards are, how do you Americans say, in the gutter?
IMHO, as someone pointed out in the previous thread, you looked very soft from the back, joelocal.
Joe looked great (first show in what.............17 years?!?!?!?)
could he have been tighter................y es
lil "rusty" after 17 years is all!
complete "Joe Gallery" here http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=browse&id=1393&eventcode=1214&page=2
But one thing for sure, the judging was based STRICTLY on conditioning and nothing else, the other criteria was thrown out the window.
So if you look at my hams and glutes in my back double bi shots, can you say the same thing....I'd have to say it looks better when compared and spiked, check out the guys next to me and base your decision on that......BTW, looks like someone kind screwed with that pic, just another hater. Enhance the pic and post the worst one...thats ok! Hey, it was my last show, I'm gonna have fun with these pics, they'll probably be the last ones taken like this, what have I got to lose? But one thing for sure, the judging was based STRICTLY on conditioning and nothing else, the other criteria was thrown out the window.your problem is you make excuses for everything and blame everyone else for your placing; insulin, judging, steriods etc...
your problem is you make excuses for everything and blame everyone else for your placing; insulin, judging, steriods etc...
if you were a man and admitted you had to be better conditioned and stop throwing blame around you wouldnt be getting flamed on here like this
I think you looked great but not "zane like" and your excuses make you look pathetic----be a man and humble up and you would be surprised how people would treat you here
But one thing for sure, the judging was based STRICTLY on conditioning and nothing else, the other criteria was thrown out the window.Why do you say it like it's a bad thing? I thought that was what you were going to bring to the table - crisp, ripped, separated muscle without too much 'insulin bulk'.
your problem is you make excuses for everything and blame everyone else for your placing; insulin, judging, steriods etc...
if you were a man and admitted you had to be better conditioned and stop throwing blame around you wouldnt be getting flamed on here like this
Congrats on doing the show Joe. Just the mere fact that you made it up there after so long is pretty impressive and considering that you had that health scare with your stepson, good for you in making it either way.
Now, the bad..
You weren't dry/cut enough. I suspect that with another week you could have hit a better mark.
Your legs looked horrible man. They were under trained and certainly looked as if you didn't train them properly (Right poundages/Exercises).
You have glutes, train them.
Summary:
Everything else looked "ok", but I think with more time to train, heavier poundages and maybe a better overall routine, you could have made a bigger splash.
In being fair, no one else in that contest looked that good either way. I think you should have placed second at best and 4th at worst.
The best looking physique is probably (Starting from the left) the fourth guy in this picture:
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/IMG_1032_RPSPFJDJAT.jpg)
i thought you were leaving this board forever?
pretty sad of you to be a 40+ year old man who needs the internet to validate himself.
can you say loser?
Hahaha...look at the title of this thread dude, it was taylor made for haters like you..LOL!!
Joe did you get a DVD of the show?? (throw a clip up on you-tube)
like to see your routine
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Admit your defeat, Coach! ;D ;D
Thanks, that is a great post, constructive critisism with no flaming, now my response,
1. I know I wasn't cut or dry enough, I've admitted from the start.
2. As I've said from the beginning and in many many other posts even from a few months ago, that my leg training was hampered by a torn meniscus and grade 1-2 sprain in my ACL and medial lateral collateral, but I did the best I could, I was too far commited to back out.
3. Training heavy (real heavy) at my age is just a recipe for injuries.
4. I disagree with you on what you thought I should have placed, I thought my placing was fair based on the criteria they were looking for, as I said, I'm happy with my placings. BTW, the 4th guy in that line up is a 5 time World Champion, he has an AWESOME physique and I personally thought he should have won the overall.
LOL...I did, what more do you want ;D?
Coach, who the hell won that show then?
Joe is the kind of republican that follows the party the way others follow their favourite sports team. If the Bush administration started killing babies he would remain a republican...oh wait, they already do that. :P
Epic lack of critical thinking skills.
::)..K!
It's true though, you are a stereotype. I can basically tell you exactly what your opinions are on everything without even knowing them, just based on the surface level information that you've revealed about yourself.
The problem with people like you is that you are dangerous for society. The mentality of just doing what you are told without questioning authority or thinking about an issue for yourself takes power away from all of us and gives it to a select few.
Hey Coach: a more pedestrian question, if I may. In hindsight, and reflecting on the changes that you, yourself, had, and noticed, between this contest and the last time you competed, what would you have done differently, kept the same?
/no political barbs :)
Who here trusts their hot dog vendor? >:(
So if you look at my hams and glutes in my back double bi shots, can you say the same thing....I'd have to say it looks better when compared and spiked, check out the guys next to me and base your decision on that......BTW, looks like someone kind screwed with that pic, just another hater. Enhance the pic and post the worst one...thats ok! Hey, it was my last show, I'm gonna have fun with these pics, they'll probably be the last ones taken like this, what have I got to lose? But one thing for sure, the judging was based STRICTLY on conditioning and nothing else, the other criteria was thrown out the window.jesus, who's the dude with the wig next to you?
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i thought you were leaving this board forever?
Hey Joe,
Just curious, do u have any pics of what u looked like before u started dieting??
That would be nice to see the progress u made from day one to the excalibur
his physique is great fro a 40+ year old man.....cannot deny that. its his character that is in question
coach lacks integrity
please admit that you said you were leaving or "retiring" and hold yourself to your word.
a true christian would.....goodbye
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0011.jpg)
U were just a big mofo with really good shape!!!!
Hey how much did u weigh in that pic?
i THINK I was around 230 if memory serves.
i THINK I was around 230 if memory serves.
and what did u weigh on stage?
lookin good joe, I always said you were a good athlete
I just hope your comeback to the sport has relieved you of your bitterness
E
Thanks Earl, but........Bodybuilders are not athletes and bodybuilding isn't a sport ;D
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0011.jpg)Hahah wow, you really are fat and delusional. I saw a nice DNP next to your name. I knew you couldn't return to your former glory. So much for steroids and dreams of shredded glutes. Next time pay more attention to more important matters like your familiy crisis. I hope you got the attention you were looking for.
Hahah wow, you really are fat and delusional. I saw a nice DNP next to your name. I knew you couldn't return to your former glory. So much for steroids and dreams of shredded glutes. Next time pay more attention to more important matters like your familiy crisis. I hope you got the attention you were looking for.
coach lacks integrity
Nice to see u had some more positive things as usual to say there queefy ::)Stop looking at things in shades of black and white. It isn't about positivity or negativity but honesty. Hope this helps!!
Thanks Earl, but........Bodybuilders are not athletes and bodybuilding isn't a sport ;D
Hahah wow, you really are fat and delusional. I saw a nice DNP next to your name. I knew you couldn't return to your former glory. So much for steroids and dreams of shredded glutes. Next time pay more attention to more important matters like your familiy crisis. I hope you got the attention you were looking for.
Stop looking at things in shades of black and white. It isn't about positivity or negativity but honesty. Hope this helps!!
As if you had any credibility..LOL!!Hahah you are delusional man. You weren't even in shape. You had a good 5-15 more pounds to drop. You should have idealy been in the 180's.
Let me remind you.....6'2 and a monsterous 146lbs...Ggrrrrrrr...lol
Leafy,
I haven't really kept up with your feud with "TheCoach", could you be so kind as to give me a quick 2-3 line play-by-play as to why you hate him so much and want him to trade places with Craig Titus?
Thannnnkksss.. (http://www.scottdizzle.com/uploads/45121406officespace.jpg)
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Hahah you are delusional man. You weren't even in shape. You had a good 5-15 more pounds to drop. You should have idealy been in the 180's.
Post your pic again, please.I never said you had a bad physique. I am saying you came into a show a fucking half-assed it. Whats the point of doing it if you are going to half-ass do something. The way you did this show reflects onto your personal life.
I never said you had a bad physique. I am saying you came into a show a fucking half-assed it. Whats the point of doing it if you are going to half-ass do something. The way you did this show reflects onto your personal life.
Joe, you started at 230 and ended up 195? And you did all of this drug free? Discuss.
Joe, you started at 230 and ended up 195? And you did all of this drug free? Discuss.
LOL ;D
I always do what I say (exept for staying off here LOL)
were not laughing. please go....
be a man of your word
Matt, you know as well as I do I never said I was drug free.
Reflects on my personal life? How? I own a home on the beach, I have a great family (some on here even met my family at the show), I always do what I say (exept for staying off here LOL) I've backed everything I've said, so I came in soft and trust me son, I didn't half-ass it, I'm just not willing to put myself at that kind of risk, if thats "half-assing" it, then you have ALOT to learn.......besides, you're 16..YOU DO have alot to learn!Would you wait for me to get into the same weight class as you? If i was 200 lbs i would destroy you. Hope this helps...
Hey Leafy, do you think you could have beat me.......all 6'2 146lbs of you? Just say the word brother, pick a show and I'll be there, I'd be happy to do one more against you just to shut your pie hole!
As a matter of fact, I may just have one more in me anyway....Mmmmmmm!
Would you wait for me to get into the same weight class as you? If i was 200 lbs i would destroy you. Hope this helps...
If I waited for you to get to 200, my grandchildren would have grandchildren..LOL!The conditioning you brought for that show is simmilar to the condition i have in the offseason except you might be a little leaner.
If you got a spare min or so check this out
(that new kid Jeff Long)
Check out the title of this thread, it's for haters like you, my study is almost complete.
add this to your study....
i dont "hate" you...and im not going to be a child and "hate" on your physique...that is stupid. although i agree that your conditioning wasnt exactly to par on that day, you have a physique that most getbiggers would die for and hold it while in your forties...you should be applauded for your return to competition
what i do HATE....are people who are not true to their word. they say one thing...yet do another. regardless of the consequense..or the situation, a person needs to be held to their word.
you are preachy and close minded. you claim to be a religious man, yet lack honesty and conviction. these actions are a direct reflection of your character and you should apoligize to the entire board for not holding true.
if you are the man you THINK you are...it shouldnt be too hard to pm ron again and delete "joelocal"
trust me son, I didn't half-ass it, I'm just not willing to put myself at that kind of risk, if thats "half-assing" it, then you have ALOT to learn......Jesus Christ!
Jesus Christ!
What risk are you talking about? You have preached here for years about how the old-timers came in in fantastic conditioning on minimal drugs. You said you were going to be shredded, and doing it the old-school way.
Like On_Swole said, there are naturals (and "naturals") who get crazy ripped. He was probably correct saying that you just didn't have enough time and you started your prep too late.
These excuses (and yes, that's what they are) are pathetic and reflect poorly on you.
I thought you knew more than that Van, one I don't believe there is no such thing as a natural, and you have to understand, it's hard to compare me, who hasn't dieted down in 17 years to someone who does multiple shows each year, no I wasn't shredded like I thought I would be, I realize it's going to take a couple of more times, that's basic bodybuilding commonsense...BUT, I wasn't that far off compared to everyone else and you look at the comparison pics in the rear double bi shot (my arms are lacking, I understand that) but in the Masters class, looking at the pics, I had everyone beat in shape and detail and that includes the winner, Hughs. In the open Lt. Hvys...samething, exept for Kamal, I had everyone beat from the rear and my fron t..again, wasn't that far off....especially the 20lbs ::) you thought I had to lose. Here's the Lt. Hvy comparisons....the dude on the left of me placed second (top pic)..I think you looked good. Very good, especially for your age. It's just the excuses that suck. All that matters is what you bring to the stage. Less drugs, more drugs, no one cares or should care.
add this to your study....
i dont "hate" you...and im not going to be a child and "hate" on your physique...that is stupid. although i agree that your conditioning wasnt exactly to par on that day, you have a physique that most getbiggers would die for and hold it while in your forties...you should be applauded for your return to competition
what i do HATE....are people who are not true to their word. they say one thing...yet do another. regardless of the consequense..or the situation, a person needs to be held to their word.
you are preachy and close minded. you claim to be a religious man, yet lack honesty and conviction. these actions are a direct reflection of your character and you should apoligize to the entire board for not holding true.
if you are the man you THINK you are...it shouldnt be too hard to pm ron again and delete "joelocal"
Stop looking at things in shades of black and white. It isn't about positivity or negativity but honesty. Hope this helps!!
did you use a lot of insulinhe does strike a resemblance to Zane , structure and symetry wise and this is the best compliment I can pay to this 40 something warrior who owned everysingle one who ragged on himintenseonecoachjoecal?
it's just that your muscles just didn't pop like the other guys and you had a distended gut.
i've got to commend you though. this is the first time i have actually witnessed cellulite on a competitive bber. your hams were riddled with it.
maybe you should get larger sized posing trunks before you do your next show to accomodate your fat droopy ass. all those folds of loose skin on your lower back, abs, glutes were lierally bulging out at the seams. :-X
you've got a very blocky physique. i still can't believe you even mentioned zane as a comparison to yourself. you do know that mike arvilla, in his last show, was closer to being in the same condition and appearance as zane?
your upper back was ok, your arms and chest were flat and small and your calves and legs looked like you hadn't trained them in 7 years.
hope this helps joe. :D
Hi everyone!
I just wanted to say that...We are all bodybuilders here. We love to train, get in shape and look good.
But competing is a whole different story. I do not know most of you guys on here but the harshest critics seem to be those that have not competed, but then again I can see your point too, your just giving your opinions. Once you step on stage for the first time, you will look at pictures, etc and realize what a bitch it was to do the show.
Just please keep in mind, its alot easier said than done. So many factors contribute to looking your best on stage. Many of them, we have no control over. Such as the fact that we have no control over who shows up. And in this case, this show had some pretty darn good competitors for a regional show.
Remember guys, It is a bitch to actually get out there and get on stage and leave your fate in the eyes of the judges. We have no control over the placings the judges give us. It takes some real balls to get on stage after a long layoff.
That is why I give credit to anyone who actually does it. It was guys like Joe who made the show. And most everyone else just sat, watched and looked at his pictures,. Bodybuilding and competing are really two different things, I think Joe should really be given some respect here!
he does strike a resemblance to Zane , structure and symetry wise and this is the best compliment I can pay to this 40 something warrior who owned everysingle one who ragged on him''
Honesty is a big thing I agree,
what do you think of people who claim to be natural and aren't, a lot of those people around.
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zane's structure was completely different to joe.
zane had wide clavicles and small hips, joints and waist. joe has narrow shoulders, zero taper and very wide hips and waist.
zane's stomach never protruded, joe looks like a trucker with a pot belly.
zane never competed with rolls of fat bulging out from his lower back, glutes and waist.
btw, the pic you posted of Joe is about 23 years old.
Hahahaha....granted I'm no Zane.......no now you do all your posting on the complaint board crying about how your feelings are hurt cause someone called you fat :-\ :'( hahaha
Epic zero taper and wide hips...LOL..
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0322-1.jpg)
Epic trucker "Pot Belly"..LOL
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And the fat rolls....my God..I wish I could have been as good as the guy next to me.....*sigh*, I need Jenny Craig
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0349.jpg)
BTW, my little study is working great, I rarely have to post anymore for you guys to ressurect a thread and throw somemore hate in it.....Classic ;D
So when are you leaving getbig again?