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Title: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Remo Williams on December 12, 2007, 11:35:36 AM
Apparently he left Thailand on bad terms. Anyone know what and why??
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Stark on December 12, 2007, 11:37:13 AM
Thailand carries a death sentence for anybody dealing with drugs... and yes that includes steroids.
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: benz on December 12, 2007, 11:37:52 AM
Apparently he left Thailand on bad terms. Anyone know what and why??

He wasnt getting free roids anymore
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Remo Williams on December 12, 2007, 11:43:01 AM
Thailand carries a death sentence for anybody dealing with drugs... and yes that includes steroids.

Please explain? A pharmacy selling roids to the public is no different to selling cough medicine.

I know he was caught with ecstacy etc.
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: michael arvilla on December 12, 2007, 12:14:39 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Stark on December 12, 2007, 12:15:20 PM
:o

HAHA WTF?
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: cptanabolic on December 12, 2007, 12:42:03 PM
Apparently because the girls looked like this...........
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 12, 2007, 12:47:08 PM
maybe he dont like train anymore?
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: cptanabolic on December 12, 2007, 12:50:37 PM
Why is that dude wearing a sports bra?
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 12, 2007, 12:51:55 PM
Please explain? A pharmacy selling roids to the public is no different to selling cough medicine.

I know he was caught with ecstacy etc.
I pretty sure even the Pharmacies in Thailand aren't technically allowed to sell steroids without a Rx. I could be wrong so someone who knows better can clarify.

I remember a few years ago there was a raid there on some UG steroid operation.
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: BigNBloated on December 12, 2007, 12:58:32 PM
Im pretty sure that script drugs are all legal because the government has allowed the pharmacy's to sell them due to the poverty and no access to doctors for most people.  They are able to walk in say how they feel and buy some drugs for symptoms without actually seeking medical treatment from a physician.

 All other rec drugs like marijuana and X are illegal and carry heavy consequences especially to those dealing.  There are signs in customs explaining mandatory life/death sentence for anyone smuggling. Dealing drugs is taken very seriously there.
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: 20inch calves on December 12, 2007, 01:38:31 PM
I pretty sure even the Pharmacies in Thailand aren't technically allowed to sell steroids without a Rx. I could be wrong so someone who knows better can clarify.

I remember a few years ago there was a raid there on some UG steroid operation.



yes steriods are legal. but protein and other supplements are near impossible to get over there..the goverment is very strict on supplements yet anyone can buy pain killer, steriods ect over the counter
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: 20inch calves on December 12, 2007, 01:40:06 PM
on the X thing i read that dennis recieved  17 x pills but you are only aloud 15 or something by thai laws..so the goverment took his house..
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 12, 2007, 01:51:57 PM


yes steriods are legal. but protein and other supplements are near impossible to get over there..the goverment is very strict on supplements yet anyone can buy pain killer, steriods ect over the counter
I know steroids can be bought OTC. I'm curious about the legality. I mean prostitution is not legal either over there  :D
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: 20inch calves on December 12, 2007, 01:56:16 PM
I know steroids can be bought OTC. I'm curious about the legality. I mean prostitution is not legal either over there  :D

steriods are totally legal over there to purchase from the pharmacy. you just can't sell them
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Remo Williams on December 12, 2007, 03:00:18 PM


yes steriods are legal. but protein and other supplements are near impossible to get over there..the goverment is very strict on supplements yet anyone can buy pain killer, steriods ect over the counter

There was a GNC in "Tops" supermarket in Pattaya, also there was a supplement shop accross the way from Tonys Gym, so sorry to tell you, but you must have your info mixed up. Most of the supplements I saw were Australian too.

I could be wrong, but I was told that a special licence was required for importing supplements. That was 4 years ago though, things may have changed. I normally take my own supplements with me, but I chose not to when I headed for Thailand as I didnt want to take any chances.. a kilo of pure Glutamine and Creatine would definately be hard to explain.

I just returned from 2 weeks in Pattaya, and there's juiced guys everywhere, the majority being Europeans. I trained at Tonys Gym which is the only one I went to, there's plenty others that I didnt look at but Tonys was great.

I didnt investigate the gear side of things, as I havent ventured into the realm of chemical warfare, however one guy introduced himself and said he owns a pharmacy and said he can get anything.

Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Remo Williams on December 12, 2007, 03:15:17 PM
I know steroids can be bought OTC. I'm curious about the legality. I mean prostitution is not legal either over there  :D

If it werent for the prostitution the Thai economy would probably collapse.

Pattaya has hordes of farmers daughters that have been sent from Isan to Pattaya to work, because the rice crops didnt pull through.

If I had a dollar for everytime I heard..

"Welcome, Sexy Man, What your name? Where you come from?, How long you stay Thailand?"
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: musclehedz on December 12, 2007, 03:26:24 PM
Thailand carries a death sentence for anybody dealing with drugs... and yes that includes steroids.

haut dein mail du huhrensohn
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: 20inch calves on December 12, 2007, 04:44:01 PM
There was a GNC in "Tops" supermarket in Pattaya, also there was a supplement shop accross the way from Tonys Gym, so sorry to tell you, but you must have your info mixed up. Most of the supplements I saw were Australian too.

I could be wrong, but I was told that a special licence was required for importing supplements. That was 4 years ago though, things may have changed. I normally take my own supplements with me, but I chose not to when I headed for Thailand as I didnt want to take any chances.. a kilo of pure Glutamine and Creatine would definately be hard to explain.

 





thats what i meant to say. james in an interview said that the goverment gave him a hard time about getting his protein ect from his sponsors from the usa...
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: duncanlukas on December 12, 2007, 06:06:59 PM
perhaps he will go back to venice?
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Rimbaud on December 12, 2007, 06:15:16 PM
From what I understand you can buy whatever you want over the counter (gear). But you run into problems when you start selling it to other countries & such (i.e. send the gear overseas).
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: pedro01 on December 12, 2007, 07:28:58 PM
Dang - this should be called the 'misinformation' thread.

Exctasy is not legal in any quantity here, 15 or 17 - it's still illegal. What changes with qty is that you move from being a user to a distributor in the eyes of the law.

It is technically illegal to buy steroids over the counter. Nobody seems to give a shit though. The law here doesn't work in quite the same way as other countries so the whole legal/illegal thing isn't as black & white as it would be in the US/UK.

You cannot buy codeine here, and they are a lot stricter on drugs such as Valium & Xanax, a few years ago the Thai teens discovered the joys of Xanax & alchohol and that put paid to the selling of tranqs in most pharmacies.

As for Dennis, who knows ? He got busted by the DEA who will bust anyone, anywhere that is sending gear back to the US. They don't have duristiction - but that's another grey area. Amongst the goodies he had, there was supposedly some ecstacy. It is very likely that Dennis paid 'bail', got his passport & fucked off just as quickly as possible. That's the way these things tend to happen here.
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: gordiano on December 12, 2007, 07:36:15 PM
Dang - this should be called the 'misinformation' thread.

Exctasy is not legal in any quantity here, 15 or 17 - it's still illegal. What changes with qty is that you move from being a user to a distributor in the eyes of the law.

It is technically illegal to buy steroids over the counter. Nobody seems to give a shit though. The law here doesn't work in quite the same way as other countries so the whole legal/illegal thing isn't as black & white as it would be in the US/UK.

You cannot buy codeine here, and they are a lot stricter on drugs such as Valium & Xanax, a few years ago the Thai teens discovered the joys of Xanax & alchohol and that put paid to the selling of tranqs in most pharmacies.

As for Dennis, who knows ? He got busted by the DEA who will bust anyone, anywhere that is sending gear back to the US. They don't have duristiction - but that's another grey area. Amongst the goodies he had, there was supposedly some ecstacy. It is very likely that Dennis paid 'bail', got his passport & fucked off just as quickly as possible. That's the way these things tend to happen here.

Jurisdiction.
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 12, 2007, 08:04:47 PM
It is technically illegal to buy steroids over the counter. Nobody seems to give a shit though. The law here doesn't work in quite the same way as other countries so the whole legal/illegal thing isn't as black & white as it would be in the US/UK.

You cannot buy codeine here, and they are a lot stricter on drugs such as Valium & Xanax, a few years ago the Thai teens discovered the joys of Xanax & alchohol and that put paid to the selling of tranqs in most pharmacies.
Yes, that was my understanding, that steroids weren't technically legal.

I have a few friends who visited recently and they didn't have any problems buying Xanax and Valium.
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Hedgehog on December 12, 2007, 09:40:15 PM
Apparently he left Thailand on bad terms. Anyone know what and why??

What kind of shit is he in, and how deep is it?
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: rocket on December 12, 2007, 09:49:45 PM
If you're a guest in a country - and you receive ecstasy and you're implicated in a possible drug smuggling ring you're probably going to either be locked up or booted out.

At the very least, if you were previously "up to something", you would no longer wish to stay in a place where this information was known.

I doubt that he is still in any trouble but clearly he was no longer welcome.
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: timfogarty on December 12, 2007, 10:09:01 PM
from the musclememory blog (http://www.musclememory.com/blog/2004/02/5) (the internet is forever)

Feb 29, 2004

Translated from http://www.thairath.co.th

“On 26th February at 9.00am, Dr. Mahaisak (chief of police), and Mr Yakvarachai (drugs officer) along with a DEA officer, arrested Mr Dennis James, the American champion body builder.

They found hundreds of vials of an anabolic steroid along with 19 E tablets in a parcel sent from Germany to Mr Dennis James at Universe Gym. Mr James admitted that everything in the parecl belonged to him and that he intended to sell the steroids to bodybuilding friends in Thailand, and the ecstasy tablets to tourists visiting Thailand. Police officers were called upon to search his house. Mr James’s house was full of bodybuilding trophies. Officers searched Mr James’s computer and found evidence showing that he used it to give and receive orders from all around the world. Mr James is charged with holding Ecstasy tablets without authorisation. The maximum penalty for this crime in Thailand is death.

Thai officers and DEA officers have been watching Dennie James for a long time. He has a business visa to be in Thailand to operate the Universe Gym but officials believe that this was a cover for his main activity - a major agent to import and export steroids which are banned in the United States. It is believed that he receives parcels from the Netherlands via Germany and he then distributes them to other countries, including America. Evidence was found showing that Mr James sells ecstasy tablets via the internet internationally. Police also found parcels in his home ready to be sent to an american address.”
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Monster81 on December 12, 2007, 10:25:35 PM
Apparently he left Thailand on bad terms. Anyone know what and why??

hes makin more money in Kuwait
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Monster81 on December 12, 2007, 10:26:48 PM
Please explain? A pharmacy selling roids to the public is no different to selling cough medicine.

I know he was caught with ecstacy etc.

it was Milos who sent him that shit, but some how he got away
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Monster81 on December 12, 2007, 10:28:47 PM
Apparently because the girls looked like this...........
his wife is thai , and shes takin care of his Universe gym in Pataya while hes makin som more money in Kuwait
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Hedgehog on December 12, 2007, 10:35:21 PM
from the musclememory blog (http://www.musclememory.com/blog/2004/02/5) (the internet is forever)

Feb 29, 2004

Translated from http://www.thairath.co.th

“On 26th February at 9.00am, Dr. Mahaisak (chief of police), and Mr Yakvarachai (drugs officer) along with a DEA officer, arrested Mr Dennis James, the American champion body builder.

They found hundreds of vials of an anabolic steroid along with 19 E tablets in a parcel sent from Germany to Mr Dennis James at Universe Gym. Mr James admitted that everything in the parecl belonged to him and that he intended to sell the steroids to bodybuilding friends in Thailand, and the ecstasy tablets to tourists visiting Thailand. Police officers were called upon to search his house. Mr James’s house was full of bodybuilding trophies. Officers searched Mr James’s computer and found evidence showing that he used it to give and receive orders from all around the world. Mr James is charged with holding Ecstasy tablets without authorisation. The maximum penalty for this crime in Thailand is death.

Thai officers and DEA officers have been watching Dennie James for a long time. He has a business visa to be in Thailand to operate the Universe Gym but officials believe that this was a cover for his main activity - a major agent to import and export steroids which are banned in the United States. It is believed that he receives parcels from the Netherlands via Germany and he then distributes them to other countries, including America. Evidence was found showing that Mr James sells ecstasy tablets via the internet internationally. Police also found parcels in his home ready to be sent to an american address.”


What are the chances of Thailand trying to get DJ extradited from foreign countries you gather?
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: BIG DUB on December 12, 2007, 10:39:31 PM
his wife is thai , and shes takin care of his Universe gym in Pataya while hes makin som more money in Kuwait

Sin is sexy I must admit. I wonder if she was a bar girl?
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: pedro01 on December 12, 2007, 10:55:04 PM
Yes, that was my understanding, that steroids weren't technically legal.

I have a few friends who visited recently and they didn't have any problems buying Xanax and Valium.

That's cool. They must be in the know then !  ;)

I only know 2 pharmacies in Bangkok that will sell the stuff. In Pattaya it's real tough but just this week a friend there found a place.
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: LatsMcGee on December 13, 2007, 12:43:12 AM
his wife is thai , and shes takin care of his Universe gym in Pataya while hes makin som more money in Kuwait

While the wifes away DJ can partake in some hot Kuwaitian poooosssy.
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: pedro01 on December 13, 2007, 01:49:17 AM
his wife is thai , and shes takin care of his Universe gym in Pataya while hes makin som more money in Kuwait

Nope.

Universe was owned by Shane Stratton ex Mr Universe (hence the name, I guess).

It then went to another owner after moving to Sukhumvit road & I heard it had recently been sold to a couple of Aussie guys. Mind you, I also heard a couple of Germans brought it. Think "hot potato".

There are much better gyms in Pattaya than Universe, it has had it's day & needs a lot of new kit (not to mention new air conditioning) if it is ever to make money again.
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: gtbro1 on December 13, 2007, 04:54:52 AM
He left because it was so difficult to get supplements. He figured if he could get his hands on some cell tech/ nitro tech  he would put on at least 15 - 20 lbs of mass


   it is hard to believe that a country like Thailand where pervs go to have sex with children and what not would be so hard core about drugs to execute someone.
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: T.O.M. on December 13, 2007, 05:08:22 AM
DJ lives in phoenix/arizona yet.
from thailand he removed to germany for a couple of months.
but living in germany is much expensive when u get paid in US$ .

Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: Monster81 on December 13, 2007, 06:58:41 AM
While the wifes away DJ can partake in some hot Kuwaitian poooosssy.
NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT
Title: Re: Why did DENNIS JAMES leave Thailand????
Post by: dr_para24 on December 13, 2007, 07:59:06 AM


yes steriods are legal. but protein and other supplements are near impossible to get over there..the goverment is very strict on supplements yet anyone can buy pain killer, steriods ect over the counter

Yes you are right. you can get roids over the pharmacy. is legal to buy over the counter. thailand do not have a death penalty for steriods!!!!!  Dennis have a better offer that why he left Thailand!