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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The_Leafy_Bug on December 12, 2007, 04:35:53 PM
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On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the worst....
Discuss, http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=fnQ8MVTVj50
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Hahahah are those skater shoes?
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What is even funnier is how those shoes are still on and he doesn't have pants on. Obviously he went through the effort to either take his shoes off and then put them back on before the filming or worked off the pants with them still on. Regardless it makes you question as to why someone would go through all the extra effort to add a few inches to their height.
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I heard Matt C can olly really good.
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On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the worst....
Discuss, http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=fnQ8MVTVj50
I would say an 8
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i like mattc is a good guy.
i laughed at the awkward smile right at end when he realised sumone was there lol
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Matt is suffering Delusion and Dementia of nearly the highest order. Clearly the higher end of the scale is where Mr. Canning can be found. http://www.canyonhouse.com/global_deterioration_scale.htm
Mr. Canning is the very definition of a lunatic and is undoubtedly insane as he looks worse every year, but yet he puts in more "work" on his physique.
The Psychotic Delusion and Illusion thus going unrealized and unrecognized cognitively by Mr. Canning conciously as well as sub-conciously.
Somebody needs to intervene.
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Matt is suffering Delusion and Dementia of nearly the highest order. Clearly the higher end of the scale is where Mr. Canning can be found. http://www.canyonhouse.com/global_deterioration_scale.htm
Mr. Canning is the very definition of a lunatic and is undoubtedly insane as he looks worse every year, but yet he puts in more "work" on his physique.
The Psychotic Delusion and Illusion thus going unrealized and unrecognized cognitively by Mr. Canning conciously as well as sub-conciously.
Somebody needs to intervene.
TA...what do you think would be the best course of action for Matt C in order to improve his physique, and most importantly his life?
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I just think Matt has been watching too many Jay Cutler DVD'S!..........
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i will say an 8. i have see worse..plus is back in ok
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I dont understand why all the hate from Team Bones? If Matt C lost 15 lbs he'd be close to Adonis, and bigger than Leafy.
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give the guy a break
he was in a car accident when he was a small child and has been in a wheel chair for most of his life.
he's only recently gained the ability to stand upright.
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give the guy a break
he was in a car accident when he was a small child and has been in a wheel chair for most of his life.
he's only recently gained the ability to stand upright.
;D
haha
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he'd be close to Adonis, and bigger than Leafy.
Both are about 6ft and a buck forty soak and wet......Matt dwarfs them both.
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:-X
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On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the worst....
Discuss, http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=fnQ8MVTVj50
It really depends on his age. If he's under 18, I don't think he's delusional.
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It really depends on his age. If he's under 18, I don't think he's delusional.
Actually it has nothing to do with age, but of his opinion of himself. Delusional would be if he thinks he's HUGE or a possible pro in the making. I doubt he thinks that.
He's got some size and strength, there's a video of him benching 225 for 16. I think that's a bit more than the average getbigger.
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MaxC is a great guy, but his problem is that he has really not applied himself to advance his physique. He has been on long breaks, instead of being consistent.
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Adonis, tell us about your Marvelous New Invention.
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MaxC is a great guy, but his problem is that he has really not applied himself to advance his physique. He has been on long breaks, instead of being consistent.
I agree, good dude.
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I think you guys need to give Matt a break!...............
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In Matt's defense, we can at least say he trains......which is more than we can say for a lot of the shit talkers around here....
Plus, he's a cool dude.....for a gay guy.... ;D
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Actually it has nothing to do with age, but of his opinion of himself. Delusional would be if he thinks he's HUGE or a possible pro in the making. I doubt he thinks that.
He's got some size and strength, there's a video of him benching 225 for 16. I think that's a bit more than the average getbigger.
whoa
matt does 225 for 16 ??? :o
hang on, let me get out the bigbobs strength calculator...hmmm, now if nasser does that weight for 15 and Matt does 16 then Matt is stronger than nasser and can thus equal more total weight ie 225 for 16 = 550lb incline bench for reps!!!!!!!! :o
Mr Matt C, step up to the podium young man. you are the strongest man that ever lived (loud cheers from the audience) and if you happened to perform these presses at a latter stage in your workout....well, we just might have to preserve you in a museum.
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In Matt's defense, we can at least say he trains......which is more than we can say for a lot of the shit talkers around here....
Plus, he's a cool dude.....for a gay guy.... ;D
Then show your support with a "Matt C " avatar!!!!...................
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whoa
matt does 225 for 16 ??? :o
hang on, let me get out the bigbobs strength calculator...hmmm, now if nasser does that weight for 15 and Matt does 16 then Matt is stronger than nasser and can thus equal more total weight ie 225 for 16 = 550lb incline bench for reps!!!!!!!! :o
Mr Matt C, step up to the podium young man. you are the strongest man that ever lived (loud cheers from the audience) and if you happened to perform these presses at a latter stage in your workout....well, we just might have to preserve you in a museum.
haha, there's another thread where this is already addressed. You can't compare the videos because Nasser is doing his reps very slow and fluid and does not struggle even at the end of his set, i.e. if he were going for the most # of reps like others he would be going fast and doing "ronnie reps" and would get over 30.
I'm guessing Matt C can do a single with 315? Last time I got 225 x 12, and I'm not quite able to do a 315 single, so I would assume Matt can.
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Oh dear Lord. Iif I walked into the changeroom at my gym and some dude was filming himself like that, I fear my first reaction would be to knock him the fcuk out. To spare us both the embarrassment, you know. Is that wrong? :-\
/sorry matt. you know i lov ya
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Oh dear Lord. Iif I walked into the changeroom at my gym and some dude was filming himself like that, I fear my first reaction would be to knock him the fcuk out. To spare us both the embarrassment, you know. Is that wrong? :-\
/sorry matt. you know i lov ya
lol to Matt's credit I'm assuming he did that at a 24-hour gym at like 3 am to make sure no one sees that ;D
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Matt C needs Anadrol Dianabol Sustenon 250 Deca Trendbelone Stanazol Halo Primabolan.
Shit only Kidding he looks good for a natty.
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lol to Matt's credit I'm assuming he did that at a 24-hour gym at like 3 am to make sure no one sees that ;D
LOL. Nice try bbs, but some old dude shambles by in the background of the clip. Those dusty guys are early-morning to early-afternoon dudes. Usually in a buffet line for dinner by 4. No, I fear this oiled-up fiasco was a daylight event. :-\
/matt? what's the story?
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Is this Matt curling?!?!??!?!?!?!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qWPkKToYVaI&feature=related
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I guess there is a "whole series" of Matt Canning videos on YOU-TUBE (when does the DVD come out?!?!)
here is Matt shoulder pressing the 80'S............
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=J5eilYamAlQ&feature=related
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Is this Matt curling?!?!??!?!?!?!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qWPkKToYVaI&feature=related
That is some impressive weight, but by pulling his arm back like that at the top of the movement he is guaranteeing that his bicep is effectively taken out of the work loop.
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Is this Matt curling?!?!??!?!?!?!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qWPkKToYVaI&feature=related
That's just terrible..typical shitty form...that string tank top thing is absurd..don't need to see guys' nipples
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Is this Matt curling?!?!??!?!?!?!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qWPkKToYVaI&feature=related
swinging his whole body there. he would be humbled if he took momentum out of the equation
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he handles decent weight
120s for 11...however questionable the form is..isn't bad
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=2BQaEglie8E
if he would diet for 8 weeks..he'd look good
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haha so why is leafy in timeout now?
he said he wasn't going to be a hater like "butt suck" ::)
people never change
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http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=F5PAqGRDA8I&feature=related (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=F5PAqGRDA8I&feature=related)
gayerthanaids
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haha so why is leafy in timeout now?
he said he wasn't going to be a hater like "butt suck" ::)
people never change
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Was Leafy the same as Butt suck? And did he ever admit to it?
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Was Leafy the same as Butt suck? And did he ever admit to it?
yes
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haha, there's another thread where this is already addressed. You can't compare the videos because Nasser is doing his reps very slow and fluid and does not struggle even at the end of his set, i.e. if he were going for the most # of reps like others he would be going fast and doing "ronnie reps" and would get over 30.
I'm guessing Matt C can do a single with 315? Last time I got 225 x 12, and I'm not quite able to do a 315 single, so I would assume Matt can.
sorry. i wasn't aware that the bigbobs strength calculator factors rep cadence too.
i saw a guy take about 8 seconds to pull 780lbs at a p/lift meet once. he didn't win, but by bigbobs math, this guy must have been, by far, the strongest man that ever lived? :o
i must say bob, it is ironic that you should be commenting on a thread about delusionality.
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That is some impressive weight, but by pulling his arm back like that at the top of the movement he is guaranteeing that his bicep is effectively taken out of the work loop.
maybe he isn't trying to work biceps with curls?
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Hi guys, I will address a few things:
TA's psychological diagnosis is wrong. He should check the DSM-IV-TR criteria for these types of disorders before speaking on the topic like an expert. What I don't like about TA is that he states that things are facts when they aren't. Then the next time credible experts say something is a fact, the audience will tend to not trust them as much because you have people like TA purporting to know for a "fact" as well. TA should not speak on topics he doesn't know. I wrote my Honours thesis on mental disorders and I have a great deal of respect for rigid standards and proper reporting of true facts. There is no actual mental health standard by which I would be deemed delusional.
Also, while it's fair to make fun of my physique or some of my clips, you should all be mindful that I'm not an arrogant type of guy. :) My lifts are decent; for 1RMs, my deadlift is mid to high 400s, my squat is 405 at least to parallel, and my bench press is around 350. Although that clip is not an example of it, I can certainly do the 120 pound dumbbells for 12 reps with perfect form. Only one gym in my town actually has heavier dumbbells than that.
I usually get up to around 200-205 before stalling and yes I am obviously drug free.
MATT C PICTURE THREAD:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=99475.0
Discuss.
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Then show your support with a "Matt C " avatar!!!!...................
Brutal!!!
I like Matt, he is a good guy, but that is just well Brutal ;D
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Matt seems like a good guy who just takes his love for bodybuilding to another level. And with his modeling contacts he can always become GetBig's next gay for pay star but hopefully that won't happen.
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I think Matt's ok for the most part but this is--without doubt--the funniest/saddest/weirdest/gayest/most pathetic thing I've ever seen. :-\
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A couple of things:
1. Matt C has great shoulders.
2. The guy shooting the film has got to be tall as fcuk.
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Nothing wrong with MattC there except for him putting out a posing routine like that without a tan or any music. Spray him with Pro-Tan and Fire up some "Enter Sandman" and he'd probably be top 10 at the Olympia, possibly top 5 if he was with Muscletech.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=189065.0;attach=220006;image)
TPP - Team Pussy Pounder taking applications. MattC is President. Obsession with height a must.
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TPP - Team Pussy Pounder
Because I like eating it?
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Because I like eating it?
Hail to the KING.
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Team Delusionality:
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/alex23isadick/gotmilkdance.gif?t=1197525106)
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(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/alex23isadick/gotmilklooter.gif?t=1197525135)
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Don't worry MattC, this is coming from a guy who has these 13" arms and actually posts pics of it. He thinks it's a huge accomplishment "because he's 21"
What would you guys guess this guy benches for reps? I'm guessing 185 for 5 reps.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=169284.0;attach=196768;image)
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Hey guys, can you please make photoshopped pictures of me? I'm going to wear a white shirt in a picture and post it here soon and I want to get a photoshop contest going on.
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hahaha Bigbobo, I'm not even insulting MattC. The guy can take a joke.
Good job stalking me, though. It's the ultimate meltdown when you follow someone through a thread because they hurt your feelings on another board.
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hahaha Bigbobo, I'm not even insulting MattC. The guy can take a joke.
Good job stalking me, though. It's the ultimate meltdown when you follow someone through a thread because they hurt your feelings on another board.
I was posting on this thread before you, so if anything it would mean you stalked me here. I'm not making that accusation because I'm not so retarded to think that anyone who posts after me must be stalking and following me like you seem to think lol
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hahaha Bigbobo, I'm not even insulting MattC. The guy can take a joke.
Good job stalking me, though. It's the ultimate meltdown when you follow someone through a thread because they hurt your feelings on another board.
Okay, honest question - how much do you bench for reps? Was I close with the 185 x 5 estimate?
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The guy can take a joke.
Yes I can.
Things have been going quite well for me for these past few years so threads like this with jokes or even some attacks don't bother me much. I look forward to hitting 205 once again! It is actually a pretty good weight at my height (5'9).
Here is a before and after:
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Here is a before and after:
no real difference ???
;D
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no real difference ???
;D
I had LASIK in the after picture. :)
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Things have been going quite well for me for these past few years so threads like this with jokes or even some attacks don't bother me much. I look forward to hitting 205 once again! It is actually a pretty good weight at my height (5'9).
Be honest Matt. I stood next to you. You're more like 5'8.5"...
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I had LASIK in the after picture. :)
All kidding aside you're a strong guy for your size.
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Be honest Matt. I stood next to you. You're more like 5'8.5"...
I don't imagine I would have been at that time of day. However, I was led to believe that you were slightly taller than 5'11 and 1/2. Maybe 6'0 and 1/2. I would like to see a screen cap of us together to verify this.
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I don't imagine I would have been at that time of day. However, I was led to believe that you were slightly taller than 5'11 and 1/2. Maybe 6'0 and 1/2. I would like to see a screen cap of us together to verify this.
Lemme see if I still have the interview. People can see how 'creepy' I am when I put my hand on your balls.
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Okay, honest question - how much do you bench for reps? Was I close with the 185 x 5 estimate?
lol, didnt think he'd answer it. Wonder why. ::)
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:D
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Lemme see if I still have the interview. People can see how 'creepy' I am when I put my hand on your balls.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
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BRUTAL hahah
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=189065.0;attach=220006;image)
Matt, I heard you were 5'8" or something. Is this why you are always wearing shows to boost you to the magical 70 inch plateau?
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BRUTAL hahah
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=189065.0;attach=220006;image)
Matt, I heard you were 5'8" or something. Is this why you are always wearing shows to boost you to the magical 70 inch plateau?
No, I am 5'9. Never under 5'8.5 and never over 5'9.5 no matter what the time of day. Are you implying that I think that 5'10 is the perfect height? You guessed it!!!
Would everyone here agree that 5'10 is pretty well the perfect height for bodybuilding?
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No, I am 5'9. Never under 5'8.5 and never over 5'9.5 no matter what the time of day. Are you implying that I think that 5'10 is the perfect height? You guessed it!!!
Would everyone here agree that 5'10 is pretty well the perfect height for bodybuilding?
You are tallest first thing in the morning. Over the course of the day your nucleus propulsus loses water content and thus the intervertebral disk flattens.
And yes, 5'10" is the perfect height! I am 5'10"
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Matt looks built - props.
Though he should be killed for waering these duck-shoes!
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i'd anal it
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Great shoulders Matt,
haha, notice when that "guy" comes in with a towel around his waist.
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Yes I can.
Things have been going quite well for me for these past few years so threads like this with jokes or even some attacks don't bother me much. I look forward to hitting 205 once again! It is actually a pretty good weight at my height (5'9).
Here is a before and after:
wow it must have been hard to get that fat being a natural ectomorph. What's your secret, force-feeding?
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wow it must have been hard to get that fat being a natural ectomorph. What's your secret, force-feeding?
::)
here come the before and before that guys
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wow it must have been hard to get that fat being a natural ectomorph. What's your secret, force-feeding?
he's not that fat....jeez.
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What is even funnier is how those shoes are still on and he doesn't have pants on. Obviously he went through the effort to either take his shoes off and then put them back on before the filming or worked off the pants with them still on. Regardless it makes you question as to why someone would go through all the extra effort to add a few inches to their height.
hahahahhaha
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he's not that fat....jeez.
Consequently, he has NEVER been that lean.
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Consequently, he has NEVER been that lean.
Adam....come on the "Squadfather comment" thread.... you HAVE to see this guy. Here's a vid:
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On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the worst....
Discuss, http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=fnQ8MVTVj50
Im speechless
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On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the worst....
Discuss, http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=fnQ8MVTVj50
10.
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10.
LOL. Always room for improvement, then. You're a good egg.
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Consequently, he has NEVER been that lean.
what's your definition of "lean"...
he's certainly not "fat".
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Discuss.
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good traps and delts Matt.
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Discuss.
You would be more suited to powerlifting than BB'ing Matt. The bi's are putrid. Traps and delts look good though.
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Discuss.
Your Cranium is abnormally large in relative comparison to any other region of your body.
This clearly illustrates just how narrow and small you really are. Pursuance of added adipose tissue is hardly a credible goal.
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Your Cranium is abnormally large in relative comparison to any other region of your body.
This clearly illustrates just how narrow and small you really are. Pursuance of added adipose tissue is hardly a credible goal.
i have to admit Matt does have a pretty big head.
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Your Cranium is abnormally large in relative comparison to any other region of your body.
This clearly illustrates just how narrow and small you really are. Pursuance of added adipose tissue is hardly a credible goal.
TA why does your face look like that?
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i have to admit Matt does have a pretty big head.
why are you sucking up to adonis ::)
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why are you sucking up to adonis ::)
why do you suck up to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton?
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Your Cranium is abnormally large in relative comparison to any other region of your body.
This clearly illustrates just how narrow and small you really are. Pursuance of added adipose tissue is hardly a credible goal.
Yes, I am narrow and have a big head...
What workout regimen do you recommend to fix this?
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http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=fnQ8MVTVj50
Matt can you add music to this???.........(im thinking maybe AC/DC "thuderstruck)
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http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=fnQ8MVTVj50
Matt can you add music to this???.........(im thinking maybe AC/DC "thuderstruck)
Done:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=n8NFOOKy-EI
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How many "bodybuilding" videos did you post on YOU-TUBE?!?!
(i just found this one)
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=HevqRQ4xQJ4
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biceps baby..............Matt Canning style!!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=H9efQ4lSAEE
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"Canning" style back!!!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=azs1y7k937s
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Build a "Canning" size Chest!!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=RJM0B9N_NPs
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"CANNING SIZE DELTS"!!!...........
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=AYDpIS8Ibew
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Build a "Canning" size Chest!!
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Have you considered steroid use Matt?
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Legs baby!..............MATT C style!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=HbrPPx2JnUk
(matt on the for real tip..............how many videos are on here?!?!?!? lol!........im getting tired of page after page of them)
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Are you going to put these together in one DVD and release it to the public!??!?!
BOOM BABY BACK.................LIGHTS OUT! (C-STYLE!)
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=g-eDbJAYnmk
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C-STYLE ABS!!...........
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z5aeUBm8_k
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Have you considered steroid use Matt?
Considered?
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GOLDS GYM VENICE..............."You too can build Canning-size biceps"!!!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=3PwRuyU0exI
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Lock up your daughters!............Canning on Banjo!!!
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HAD ENOUGH????(hell no!!).......
Canning (in a Superman tank-top!!) blasts his legs thru a torturous Quad-blasting session
THINK YOU CAN HANG?!?!?
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Put the women and children to bed and let's get sum lats so we can fly ................
"let's go Diesel!!! big back!!!!!
BOOM!
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Have you considered steroid use Matt?
Yes.
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MattC is a beast, a phenom, plain and simple.
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Bump for team MATT C!!!!........................ ....
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have you ever taken steroids Matt?
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GLORY TO THE KING!
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Next thing you know, Matt will make a pilgrimage to the Mecca and hook up with Will Harris or something. Seems to be what Canadians named "Matt" do these days.
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Matt C, you've got a wicked fierce body!
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have you ever taken steroids Matt?
I am 183 pounds, hope this helps. ;D
Hey, I want to use steroids once I get back all of my old size. So hit 202 and then go on the sauce. Will I hit 220 from there? Discuss.
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I am 183 pounds, hope this helps. ;D
Hey, I want to use steroids once I get back all of my old size. So hit 202 and then go on the sauce. Will I hit 220 from there? Discuss.
i've seen guys that weigh 160lbs that openly take steroids. hope this helps. ;D
are you going to answer my question? that might help.
i'm no longer surprised at who does/does not take some level of hormones. some guys you would swear have never even lifted weights in their life and some look like the michellin man.
i remember boxer james toney (when won the WBA heavy weight title from john ruiz) attempting to defend himself after a positive drug test for nandrolone, by pointing out how he looked nothing like a bber. he did have some muscle (not much) but he was very fat for a highly trained athlete, regardless of whether or not he used peds.
he was proven to have used steroids, stripped of the title, fined and suspended for 6 months. lol, heavyweights like toney don't fight again before 6 months anyway.
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i've seen guys that weigh 160lbs that openly take steroids. hope this helps. ;D
It doesn't. ;D
The SIZEON I took had steroids in it, I think.
Fact is, the muscle mass that I have right now will be here for life. So even IF the SIZEON had steroids in it, the effects aren't still present.
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I am 183 pounds, hope this helps. ;D
Hey, I want to use steroids once I get back all of my old size. So hit 202 and then go on the sauce. Will I hit 220 from there? Discuss.
u are at ur natural limit
u are not going to hit 202 without getting fat
this is about where it ends naturally for ur 5'9.0323321 height , maybe more refinement and improved body parts but you are almost there matt.
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u are at ur natural limit
u are not going to hit 202 without getting fat
this is about where it ends naturally for ur 5'9.0323321 height , maybe more refinement and improved body parts but you are almost there matt.
When I was around 196 I don't remember being any fatter than I am now. So I'm convinced I can get back to that point slowly over the next few months without being any fatter than I am now. If I'm not mistaken, I was around 193-196 in the picture below and I don't remember being any fatter than I was now, so that is my goal to get back to:
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When I was around 196 I don't remember being any fatter than I am now. So I'm convinced I can get back to that point slowly over the next few months without being any fatter than I am now. If I'm not mistaken, I was around 193-196 in the picture below and I don't remember being any fatter than I was now, so that is my goal to get back to:
its looks like its all water and pump. u look more or less the same size to me tbh
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its looks like its all water and pump. u look more or less the same size to me tbh
More or less the same, yes. 10 pounds is nothing significant and I'm not saying I wasn't holding more water or wasn't pumped up, but just didn't feel like the 10 pounds was all fat.
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More or less the same, yes. 10 pounds is nothing significant and I'm not saying I wasn't holding more water or wasn't pumped up, but just didn't feel like the 10 pounds was all fat.
I think your face looks leaner now compared to your 200lb pics
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More or less the same, yes. 10 pounds is nothing significant and I'm not saying I wasn't holding more water or wasn't pumped up, but just didn't feel like the 10 pounds was all fat.
10lbs is a lot IF it's muscle. where people lose the plot though and become...i hate to say it...'permabulkers' is when they are unable to discern fat/water from muscle ie "omg, i gained 20lbs of muscle in a year" and they are absolutely convinced, but the cold hard reality is that it was 5lbs muscle, 8lbs fat and 7lbs water. so what they invariably do is continue to add weight because they are fearful of not making progress or losing progress, and eventually end up a fat ass.
you're not even close to your genetic limit yet (unless your genetic limit is to have muscular dystrophy).
190 in that condition = 130lbs ripped if your pre-contest is spot on. seriously, ask an experienced competitive bber that you know will give you a totally unbiased answer and tell you the truth. hell, ask Arvilla...Mike knows very well what it's like to be deluded by numbers (he may still be :-\). i bet he didn't have a clue that when he shed all that stuff he thought was muscle, he would eventually become shredded (and he was in his 1st contest) at 185 ripped, but you are not Mike and what i see here (honestly with no hate) is around 130lbs shredded.
i know you don't desire to be shredded, but you do want to be bigger. that's why it's useful to know your lean body mass, so you don't get carried away and delude yourself with numbers. don't get me worng, you do look fairly muscular in the upper body and you're not fat, but if you wish to increase your lean body mass, why on earth are you neglecting your lower body ??? there's around 10lbs of muscle you could gain in a year right there.
seriously, you obviously want to impress or you wouldn't be whoring yourself all over the internet, so 'shut up and squat' for a year, come back and whore yourself again and you might find that you get replaced as the poster boy for the metrosexual guido association.
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10lbs is a lot IF it's muscle. where people lose the plot though and become...i hate to say it...'permabulkers' is when they are unable to discern fat/water from muscle ie "omg, i gained 20lbs of muscle in a year" and they are absolutely convinced, but the cold hard reality is that it was 5lbs muscle, 8lbs fat and 7lbs water. so what they invariably do is continue to add weight because they are fearful of not making progress or losing progress, and eventually end up a fat ass.
you're not even close to your genetic limit yet (unless your genetic limit is to have muscular dystrophy).
190 in that condition = 130lbs ripped if your pre-contest is spot on. seriously, ask an experienced competitive bber that you know will give you a totally unbiased answer and tell you the truth. hell, ask Arvilla...Mike knows very well what it's like to be deluded by numbers (he may still be :-\). i bet he didn't have a clue that when he shed all that stuff he thought was muscle, he would eventually become shredded (and he was in his 1st contest) at 185 ripped, but you are not Mike and what i see here (honestly with no hate) is around 130lbs shredded.
i know you don't desire to be shredded, but you do want to be bigger. that's why it's useful to know your lean body mass, so you don't get carried away and delude yourself with numbers. don't get me worng, you do look fairly muscular in the upper body and you're not fat, but if you wish to increase your lean body mass, why on earth are you neglecting your lower body ??? there's around 10lbs of muscle you could gain in a year right there.
seriously, you obviously want to impress or you wouldn't be whoring yourself all over the internet, so 'shut up and squat' for a year, come back and whore yourself again and you might find that you get replaced as the poster boy for the metrosexual guido association.
130 pounds shredded hahaha, u sure are "knowledgeable"
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Your 130 pound assessment does not make any sense.
i have based this on the fact that he's 5'9' and 5'9 in that clip. yes he's carrying about 60lbs of bodyfat...
but ,as i said, ask any experienced competitive bber what he would weigh shredded while maintaining natural status.
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mattc is 180 at about 17-18% there. would look very very sharp for natural at 155-160. without hormones mattc peaks at maybe 165-170 natural.
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10lbs is a lot IF it's muscle. where people lose the plot though and become...i hate to say it...'permabulkers' is when they are unable to discern fat/water from muscle ie "omg, i gained 20lbs of muscle in a year" and they are absolutely convinced, but the cold hard reality is that it was 5lbs muscle, 8lbs fat and 7lbs water. so what they invariably do is continue to add weight because they are fearful of not making progress or losing progress, and eventually end up a fat ass.
you're not even close to your genetic limit yet (unless your genetic limit is to have muscular dystrophy).
190 in that condition = 130lbs ripped if your pre-contest is spot on. seriously, ask an experienced competitive bber that you know will give you a totally unbiased answer and tell you the truth. hell, ask Arvilla...Mike knows very well what it's like to be deluded by numbers (he may still be :-\). i bet he didn't have a clue that when he shed all that stuff he thought was muscle, he would eventually become shredded (and he was in his 1st contest) at 185 ripped, but you are not Mike and what i see here (honestly with no hate) is around 130lbs shredded.
i know you don't desire to be shredded, but you do want to be bigger. that's why it's useful to know your lean body mass, so you don't get carried away and delude yourself with numbers. don't get me worng, you do look fairly muscular in the upper body and you're not fat, but if you wish to increase your lean body mass, why on earth are you neglecting your lower body ??? there's around 10lbs of muscle you could gain in a year right there.
seriously, you obviously want to impress or you wouldn't be whoring yourself all over the internet, so 'shut up and squat' for a year, come back and whore yourself again and you might find that you get replaced as the poster boy for the metrosexual guido association.
So true...........i spent a good decade at 270 lbs or more(once got up as high as 312lbs)
if you would have told me that i would be 197 "ripped" and that i needed to lose in excess of 70 lbs for that first show
i would have told you you were CRAZY!.............
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You are claiming that MattC = 33% bodyfat at 180, and that your empirical "knowledge" about dieting is sure to apply in his case.
-> Many real naturals can get shredded without turning into 130 pound sceletons. Newsflash.
33% bodyfat at 180 ::)
about that, yep.
getting shredded natural is no piece of cake (pardon pun) and you need to take everything into account here.
i'm NOT saying cut or lean at 130. i'm saying shredded at 130.
you'd be surprised at just how much fat and water he would have to lose and completely natural, althought, unless he naturally has a lot of estrogen in his body, he may be taking something.
if he trains his legs hard for a year (he won't becasue guidos don't ) he might have a higher lbm index.
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So true...........i spent a good decade at 270 lbs or more(once got up as high as 312lbs)
if you would have told me that i would be 197 "ripped" and that i needed to lose in excess of 70 lbs for that first show
i would have told you you were CRAZY!.............
197 8).
sorry Mike. i took 12lbs off ya. wasn't sure how tall you were though.
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Except, you were a lot fatter than what Matt C is at 180. This BEast dude gets his "MattC=33% bf# estimate from his ass".
Oh i was def lot fatter than Mad Matt!!...................i was just saying Beast is right about how we don't know how much we REALLY have to lose in order to get totally shredded,and how we think a lot of water and fat is actually muscle tissue when it's not
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Oh i was def lot fatter than Mad Matt!!...................i was just saying Beast is right about how we don't know how much we REALLY have to lose in order to get totally shredded,and how we think a lot of water and fat is actually muscle tissue when it's not
That I can agree with, and that Matt has to loose a lot of weight to get really shredded, I can agree with also.
But the 130 pound estimate is simply wrong.
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That I can agree with, and that Matt has to loose a lot of weight to get really shredded, I can agree with also.
But the 130 pound estimate is simply wrong.
I think you might need to watch this again bro!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=fnQ8MVTVj50
BOOOOM BABY!
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I think you might need to watch this again bro!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=fnQ8MVTVj50
BOOOOM BABY!
MaxC brings it 8)
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Your estimate is still way off.
As long as he diets slowly (1 pound a week), there is no way he'll end up shredded at 130. If he goes for the starvation route for quick weightloss (like most do), he'll be very light.
no offence, but have you ever got really shredded in your life?
i was going to say, ever done a comp, but many turn up on stage looking like a cow that hasn't been milked (goodrum).
if matt got truly shredded, you would see just what he has got. fo one thing, i guarantee you that he would be laughed off stage by everyone in the auditorium because he would have a 6 yr old girl's chest and legs and very little of everything else (delts are decent though).
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Guy asking me about my avatar.
Is that Chad Mower in your avatar? Good to see the legend lives on.
Disrespecting the KING.
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Not super shredded, but very very lean.
The numbers just don't support your estimate, even though the BB jargon do.
Look at Leafy bug, he got quite shredded at 147, and Matt is just about the size Leafy was before he dieted down. With some training, leafy can step on stage at 150+, and don't tell me he can outweight MattC by 20 pounds.
whether you believe it or not, Leafy has always had more overall muscle mass than Matt C.
Leafy was ripped, 147 and about 5"10/11 if i remember correctly, but more than that, the guy definitely had more muscle and his lower body had far far more muscle.
sorry, but Matt is not of leafy's calibre physique wise.
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I think he would be really shredded at 135, and possibly contest ready at 140
130 is a little bit harsh
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Below is another picture of a friend of mine. Some of you might say he is more muscular than me or what have you. You guys are confusing my lack of conditioning in my midsection to generalize as if I am fat all over. In some areas I am extremely lean, I've just never trained abs before because I was perpetually bulking and figured they wouldn't show anyway. As I now know, I'm lean enough to have abs, the problem is they are not developed.
Put me side-by-side to my friend and our muscle quality is basically the same. He just has abs so you might at first assume he is 8% body fat or something. If we were to both flex our biceps you would see that I have no more fat or skin on mine than he does on his.
Discuss.
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Below is another picture of a friend of mine. Some of you might say he is more muscular than me or what have you. You guys are confusing my lack of conditioning in my midsection to generalize as if I am fat all over. In some areas I am extremely lean, I've just never trained abs before because I was perpetually bulking and figured they wouldn't show anyway. As I now know, I'm lean enough to have abs, the problem is they are not developed.
Put me side-by-side to my friend and our muscle quality is basically the same. He just has abs so you might at first assume he is 8% body fat or something. If we were to both flex our biceps you would see that I have no more fat or skin on mine than he does on his.
Discuss.
you are dellusional, diet down and you will see that we were right.
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Your abs are there MATT ...............you just have to get to a low enough body fat % to see them
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you are dellusional, diet down and you will see that we were right.
No I won't. ;D
What program would Milos recommend for me?
Some more pictures. Discuss.
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Your abs are there MATT ...............you just have to get to a low enough body fat % to see them
yep a lot of perma-bulkers convince themselves that they have poor seperation / definition to avoid admitting to themselves that their muscles are just covered by fat.
Arnold once said that if you can't see your serratus muscles you're not a bodybuilder.
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Matt is suffering Delusion and Dementia of nearly the highest order. Clearly the higher end of the scale is where Mr. Canning can be found. http://www.canyonhouse.com/global_deterioration_scale.htm
Mr. Canning is the very definition of a lunatic and is undoubtedly insane as he looks worse every year, but yet he puts in more "work" on his physique.
The Psychotic Delusion and Illusion thus going unrealized and unrecognized cognitively by Mr. Canning conciously as well as sub-conciously.
Somebody needs to intervene.
Pot, kettle, black. You're a terrible writer, especially when you get full of yourself (e.g., the post I'm quoting right now). As I recall, however, you fancy yourself some kind of wordsmith ... :-\
I won't even comment on how stupid it is to chide "Mr. Canning" for not "recognizing" his subconscious thoughts. (Yes, it's subconscious, with an extra s -- and no hyphen.) ::)
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yep a lot of perma-bulkers convince themselves that they have poor seperation / definition to avoid admitting to themselves that their muscles are just covered by fat.
Arnold once said that if you can't see your serratus muscles you're not a bodybuilder.
newsflash:
not everyone needs to walk around at sub 8% BF levels and just because they don't does not mean they're not a "bodybuilder".
matt c is not "fat"..he's fine for what he's doing, if he went to compete at a show in that type of shape then he would be "fat"
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newsflash:
not everyone needs to walk around at sub 8% BF levels and just because they don't does not mean they're not a "bodybuilder".
matt c is not "fat"..he's fine for what he's doing, if he went to compete at a show in that type of shape then he would be "fat"
Epic truth
BIZUMP
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Question:
Some of you guys seem almost obsessed with bodybuilders fooling themselves about their LBM.
Ok: Why?
I agree with you in part. Yeah, lots of lifters are overfat and think they're more muscular than they actually are.
But the way you're picking at Matt's a little strange. Those images and videos aren't new. He doesn't claim to be anything special. Even if he thinks he'd be shredded at 160 or 170 or whatever when reality differs, who cares? It seems like if folks are so offended by falsehoods, they'd pick a bigger target. Blasting a nice boy like Matt ... ?
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Epic truth
BIZUMP
Yeppers. Natural Al hit the nail on the head.
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I think he would be really shredded at 135, and possibly contest ready at 140
130 is a little bit harsh
If those pics are him at 180......he would be emaciated at 140. Contest ready would be 155 - 160
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yep a lot of perma-bulkers convince themselves that they have poor seperation / definition to avoid admitting to themselves that their muscles are just covered by fat.
Arnold once said that if you can't see your serratus muscles you're not a bodybuilder.
Abs are muscles too and if they are not developed they won't show very well. Mine do show under the right lighting but the primary reason why they are not very clear is because they are not developed, not because my midsection is too fat.
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Abs are muscles too and if they are not developed they won't show very well. Mine do show under the right lighting but the primary reason why they are not very clear is because they are not developed, not because my midsection is too fat.
I call BS, diet down and you will see we are right. The seperation between your abs is just mostly covered by fat. Also your midsection would get narrower if you dieted because you would shed IAF. Why are you so affraid to diet down? How long have you been BBing, and never once gotten lean. That's just perma-bulking, not BBing
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Question:
Some of you guys seem almost obsessed with bodybuilders fooling themselves about their LBM.
Ok: Why?
I agree with you in part. Yeah, lots of lifters are overfat and think they're more muscular than they actually are.
But the way you're picking at Matt's a little strange. Those images and videos aren't new. He doesn't claim to be anything special. Even if he thinks he'd be shredded at 160 or 170 or whatever when reality differs, who cares? It seems like if folks are so offended by falsehoods, they'd pick a bigger target. Blasting a nice boy like Matt ... ?
the thread isa on the front page and perma-bulkers dellusion is a pet peave of mine. I guess because I was so excited when I discovered my own mistake and I thought others would be happy to benefit from my acquired wisdom. Instead I found that most were not receptive to it and some would even insult me to help preserve their dellusions and minimize the weight of my ideas. It's not really a big deal, but it does make me angry so I get some pleasure from striking back at them and acting on my impulses.
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Below is another picture of a friend of mine. Some of you might say he is more muscular than me or what have you. You guys are confusing my lack of conditioning in my midsection to generalize as if I am fat all over. In some areas I am extremely lean, I've just never trained abs before because I was perpetually bulking and figured they wouldn't show anyway. As I now know, I'm lean enough to have abs, the problem is they are not developed.
Put me side-by-side to my friend and our muscle quality is basically the same. He just has abs so you might at first assume he is 8% body fat or something. If we were to both flex our biceps you would see that I have no more fat or skin on mine than he does on his.
Discuss.
The difference between you two is the delt and trap area. You have that Dianabol roundness to your muscles.
And you can't be serious about SizeOn containing steroids. Cut the crap Matt ::) :D
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Abs are muscles too and if they are not developed they won't show very well. Mine do show under the right lighting but the primary reason why they are not very clear is because they are not developed, not because my midsection is too fat.
there is an emaciated blonde chick on survivor with better abdominal definition than you, and trust me it's not from doing weighted crunches.
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You've definitely made some gains, but as pointed out earlier, your lack of consistency limits your potential
What is your goal Matt ? Get bigger? Get stronger? Get leaner?
If you were to lean out a bit you would definitely see your abs better...
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i remember boxer james toney (when won the WBA heavy weight title from john ruiz) attempting to defend himself after a positive drug test for nandrolone, by pointing out how he looked nothing like a bber. he did have some muscle (not much) but he was very fat for a highly trained athlete, regardless of whether or not he used peds.
Tim Sylvia was popped for using Winstrol. It's not like it wasn't obvious looking at his jacked bod :D ;D
(http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/3/3432.jpg)
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I call BS, diet down and you will see we are right. The seperation between your abs is just mostly covered by fat. Also your midsection would get narrower if you dieted because you would shed IAF. Why are you so affraid to diet down? How long have you been BBing, and never once gotten lean. That's just perma-bulking, not BBing
I like reading the old "Tales from the Crypt" series of comic books by EC comics. Particularly any stories written by Ghastly Graham Ingels.
PS - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO M!!!!!! ;D
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When he faught cabbage he looked better like he might be on the sauce but definately not jacked or shredded.
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newsflash:
not everyone needs to walk around at sub 8% BF levels and just because they don't does not mean they're not a "bodybuilder".
matt c is not "fat"..he's fine for what he's doing, if he went to compete at a show in that type of shape then he would be "fat"
why would this be a newsflash to me? I don't care what BF Matt C carries, my only objection is to his underestimation of his BF.
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why would this be a newsflash to me? I don't care what BF Matt C carries, my only objection is to his underestimation of his BF.
you said earlier that arnold said that your not a BB if you can't see your oblique's..that's what I was replying to...
why are you guys jumping all over matt c...is it because he said the adonis principles didn't work for him a year ago? You guys can't still be sore about that...can you?
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you said earlier that arnold said that your not a BB if you can't see your oblique's..that's what I was replying to...
why are you guys jumping all over matt c...is it because he said the adonis principles didn't work for him a year ago? You guys can't still be sore about that...can you?
I agree with Arnold, you probably only need 10-12% (even more if a lot of it is distributed as IAF) to see serratus though.
I had forgotten why I disliked Matt C, but now that you mention it I recall that it was because he came up with all of this tortured logic to explain why he wasn't ripped after losing 10 or 15 lbs rather than just face the fact that he had a lot more fat and less muscle than he had estimated. In the process of fortifying his denial he discounted the benefits of reducing calories (what you call the Adonis Principles) in improving body composition. This irritated me because he was doing a disservice to himself, and possibly misleading others and preventing them from imporving their physiques.
Really all of this talk is wasted because Matt and other perma-bulkers will never be convinced by it, the only thing that actually shows people the error of their ways is dieting.
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you said earlier that arnold said that your not a BB if you can't see your oblique's..that's what I was replying to...
why are you guys jumping all over matt c...is it because he said the adonis principles didn't work for him a year ago? You guys can't still be sore about that...can you?
Why is it that you must feel the need to pry your nose into other peoples business and ruin a good thread? Perhaps you should take a walk and cool down good sir. Apparently the forums have become too much for you to handle today. If you cannot handle the pie then do not start the oven.
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Why is it that you must feel the need to pry your nose into other peoples business and ruin a good thread? Perhaps you should take a walk and cool down good sir. Apparently the forums have become too much for you to handle today. If you cannot handle the pie then do not start the oven.
maybe your reading comprehension level is a little low...I was having a discussion with shifted shapes. Go be the "deputy" in another thread.
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Matt is suffering Delusion and Dementia of nearly the highest order. Clearly the higher end of the scale is where Mr. Canning can be found. http://www.canyonhouse.com/global_deterioration_scale.htm
Mr. Canning is the very definition of a lunatic and is undoubtedly insane as he looks worse every year, but yet he puts in more "work" on his physique.
The Psychotic Delusion and Illusion thus going unrealized and unrecognized cognitively by Mr. Canning conciously as well as sub-conciously.
Somebody needs to intervene.
Level 7 - Very severe cognitive decline (Late Dementia)
All verbal abilities are lost. Frequently there is no speech at all - only grunting. Incontinent of urine. Requires assistance toileting and feeding. Lose of basic psychomotor skills, e.g., ability to walk. The brain appears to no longer be able to tell the body what to do. Generalized and cortical neurologic signs and symptoms are frequently present.
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maybe your reading comprehension level is a little low...I was having a discussion with shifted shapes. Go be the "deputy" in another thread.
shut up Al. Go suck your thumb and watch TV
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I agree with Arnold, you probably only need 10-12% (even more if a lot of it is distributed as IAF) to see serratus though.
My abs are undeveloped and I have no chest. Look at pictures of Luke Wood and you will see that as shredded as he is, his abs are extremely faint. You can't look at abs alone as an indicator of body fat. If my ribcage was structured in the same way Mark Wahlberg's was, my chest would show the same separation his does.
You can see some of the striations in my shoulders and separation in my back through light clothing. I find it very hard to believe that I'm 20% body fat or higher.
One thing I know is that when I was 200 pounds I felt that I looked way better and way more people noticed me as a bodybuilder than at under 180 pounds.
PS - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO M!!!!!! ;D
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My abs are undeveloped and I have no chest. Look at pictures of Luke Wood and you will see that as shredded as he is, his abs are extremely faint. You can't look at abs alone as an indicator of body fat. If my ribcage was structured in the same way Mark Wahlberg's was, my chest would show the same separation his does.
You can see some of the striations in my shoulders and separation in my back through light clothing. I find it very hard to believe that I'm 20% body fat or higher.
One thing I know is that when I was 200 pounds I felt that I looked way better and way more people noticed me as a bodybuilder than at under 180 pounds.
PS - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO M!!!!!! ;D
haha no offense Matt, but Ron looks more buff than you and I don't think he even works out ???
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haha no offense Matt, but Ron looks more buff than you and I don't think he even works out ???
No matter how you cut it, Ron is not a small dude.
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No matter how you cut it, Ron is not a small dude.
All Orange Chicken ;D
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haha no offense Matt, but Ron looks more buff than you and I don't think he even works out ???
haha that was funny ;D
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newsflash:
not everyone needs to walk around at sub 8% BF levels and just because they don't does not mean they're not a "bodybuilder".
matt c is not "fat"..he's fine for what he's doing, if he went to compete at a show in that type of shape then he would be "fat"
i agree with this, and he will look like he lifts weights if he walks around with a sleeveless shirt and long pants, but read the title of the thread and tell me Matt doens't fit the criteria?
Matt is posting clips of himself stripped down and performing bbing poses.
therefore one naturally assumes that this is along the lines of his intended focus.
i do believe that this issue is relevant because there are many guidos people just like Matt that are deluded by numbers. so much so that if you try and tell them the truth they resent you for it. quite simply, many here are commenting on what they believe, despite NEVER getting into shredded condition in their life. i personally have never been. i know many bbers that have attained this condition though and i remember many times being blown away by how far they had to come down before attaining this condition and that's what i'm basing this on.
there is nothing at all wrong with not being shredded. it's actually not a good thing unless you're on stage. it's not healthy or sustainable, but i DO believe it helps to be aware of your approximate lean body mass. an unbiased experienced competitive bber can help him here.
Matt has great delts (especially front) that was a nice side effect from attempting to overemphasize the guido muscles (chest and bis). the by product from lifting too heavy (for him) on bench and bis was good delts and traps.
if he got shredded he would have a very good taper and his delts would dominate his whole physique. problem with that is that delts don't weigh much. the big body parts that give you that lean weight ie legs, glutes, back and chest would be very light, particularly his legs, especially his hams, glutes and lower back which have been atrociously neglected.
that's why i arrive at 130 shredded because, unlike Leafy Bug or Adonis, he just hasn't paid anywhere near enough attention to the large muscles of the body.
Mike was massive at 270 and if i said back then that he would have competed at 197, just about everyone here would have ripped on me, but yet that's what happened.
thing is, from what read of his contest prep account, his pre-contest mentally and physically was top notch for a novice. he didn't think, he just put his complete faith into a few core people (those that he could trust and were experienced) so when the pressure came on and he wasn't thinking rationally ie 'where the hell did all that 'mass' go?' he had the courage and trust in himself (his own decision to put complete faith) and others to just do what he was told.
simple fact is, that although Mike was fatter than Matt, he had paid his dues in the gym by building a much much larger base among the big muscles of his body, so when he did get shredded he had enough dense muscle on his body to leave him looking great at the end.
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I actually like the attention this thread is bringing, but I find some of you (TEAM TA) are taking it very seriously and are very angry, for reasons I do not know. This is possibly due to the fact that I rejected the TA principles last year.
First off, I hang out with a lot of young people, ages 19-27, and that is possibly why everyone around me considers me muscular. In fact, I think that pretty well all of them would point me out as being the closest to a bodybuilder that they personally know. If I walk around in a tank top in public, multiple people ALWAYS stare, and there is always someone asking me about training or steroids. Make of that whatever you wish, but that is my reality. Also, I do not feel fat at all, and in fact feel quite lean and healthy. I would like to be 210 in the same condition. I know 200 or so is reasonable (been there), but it may take a while to hit 210 at my height and in the same condition.
PS - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO M!!!!!! ;D
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I actually like the attention this thread is bringing, but I find some of you (TEAM TA) are taking it very seriously and are very angry, for reasons I do not know. This is possibly due to the fact that I rejected the TA principles last year.
First off, I hang out with a lot of young people, ages 19-27, and that is possibly why everyone around me considers me muscular. In fact, I think that pretty well all of them would point me out as being the closest to a bodybuilder that they personally know. If I walk around in a tank top in public, multiple people ALWAYS stare, and there is always someone asking me about training or steroids. Make of that whatever you wish, but that is my reality. Also, I do not feel fat at all, and in fact feel quite lean and healthy. I would like to be 210 in the same condition. I know 200 or so is reasonable (been there), but it may take a while to hit 210 at my height and in the same condition.
PS - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO M!!!!!! ;D
no anger/hate and i'm not team TA (he will tell you that much). just commenting on delusionality (and used you as an example) more than anything.
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matt could walk str8 up to a girl and ask, "you wanna fuck?"
and 7/10 would say "yes please big papa" then proceed to rub his dick
true story
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You do have some pretty damn good shoulders..
Good job!
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You do have some pretty damn good shoulders..
Good job!
Hey thanks man!! I don't know what standard everyone is holding me to. I'm still bigger and leaner than most retired pros. ;D
Also, I think taking progress pictures and clips is important, regardless of what you look like, for archiving purposes. It's not as if I'm saying I will be the next Mr. Olympia Mr. Getbig or anything.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=189065.0;attach=220005;image)
PS - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO M!!!!!! ;D
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PS - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO M!!!!!! ;D
Matt I always said you looked good , just busting your balls on the way the pose is being hit lol you have a similar build to my cousin who is 5'7" but strong as fuck . you have a nice physique and should be proud.
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Matt is a good guy with a good physique................ ....(just having some fun with no malice intended!)
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PS - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO M!!!!!! ;D
there is no doubt in my mind Matt gets the babes 8)
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Matt is a good guy with a good physique................ ....(just having some fun with no malice intended!)
I would liek to help him as well because I think it's too bad that he has convinced himself that he has a genetically flawed structure (which can't be improved) rather than acknowledge that his problem is excess fat (which can be corrected just by eating smarter).
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great bis :o
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I would liek to help him as well because I think it's too bad that he has convinced himself that he has a genetically flawed structure (which can't be improved) rather than acknowledge that his problem is excess fat (which can be corrected just by eating smarter).
My head is too big for my body...
Can you recommend a good head shrinking regimen?
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My head is too big for my body...
Can you recommend a good head shrinking regimen?
Stop thinking about mathematics. Turn into a retard. Perhaps this will shrink your skull.
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Can you recommend a good head shrinking regimen?
yeah see a psychiatrist 3 times a week. You suffer from persistent delusions and body dismorphia
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there is no doubt in my mind Matt gets the babes 8)
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Truth is, I do. And that is not me bragging about it, just factually speaking talking about my life.
Something I found very angering and insulting was when I wasn't getting girls when I was younger (under 20), I would ask some girls for advice on the topic trying to figure out what they wanted and they would say that they want a man with confidence (this came up more than anything at all). A couple of girls even went so far as to say that the reason why they weren't attracted to me is because I lacked confidence. Of course the REAL reason why they didn't go for me was because I was a 130 pound geek, but of course they didn't want to be rude and say that, feeling it was more polite to insult my personality I guess. ??? Now years later, NOTHING about my personality has changed and I'm getting girls as I please. The only changes have been physical. I wish girls would come clean and just admit they think just like men and are primarily attracted to physical attributes just as men are.
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I know many 130 pound guys that get's chicks like crazy. Stop running your fake stupidity program for a while, and see the fact that your added muscle and other physical changes improved your confidence, + more experience also helped the confidence.
The physical benefits of muscle = there, but the girls were right, you had no confidence in yourself at 130 pounds, and the girls could sense it. Now you have more confidence, and your entire personality has changed. Just admit this to yourself my hot little teddybear :-*
Somebody else pointed that out to me, and I'm still not entirely convinced that is the case. I'm not saying there isn't truth to it, but let's not underestimate the importance of physical appearance when it comes to attraction. I'll give you an example: if I shrank down to 130 pounds now, I wouldn't get as many girls, even with my newfound confidence and experience.
Also, McFarland urged me not to post pictures of my sisters on getbig after the alexxx fiasco! Discuss.
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MattC you have a great natural physique
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I think it has a lot to do with what girls read into you for.
If you look like shit, it tells people something about your self respect, and women LOOVES to read into this kind of shit.
Looks = a bit important, especially in the beginning, but if you are a true player, the looks = only a tool in your toolbox.
I think looks are extremely important, not just a small part of the picture.
If a person looks like Brad Pitt or Gunter from his "ROCK HARD" DVD days, I don't think your personality would matter much at all. I really think looks are the main thing, and as long as you aren't a complete bumbling idiot, you will get babes as long as you are good looking.
whateva - thanks!
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We truly disagree here, and even science supports Gary Buseys view.
But there = one exeption, look at this fucking hunk, he's been on every woman in americas mind at all times:
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All money.
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All money.
All charm and being God.
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All charm and being God.
I still say looks matter the most. Maybe that is because I spend so much time with young people. It could be a generational thing, brought on by all this LAGUNA BEACH crap.
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We strongly disagree here. A mans health indicators = not the same as a womans.
But looking good makes you feel incredible, which in turns flows over to all other areas of life.
And young people = usually not in tune with their true desires, they follow the crowd and therefore your "looks experience" = not good enough.
Start hanging out in the old folks home.
I still don't agree. I think the only reason why women aren't "allowed" to enjoy sex or be attracted to a man for his looks is because they are socialized to act that way. We live in a culture which is only now allowing the true nature of their biology to be shown.
Another thing I find insulting: when a woman complains to me that men only want sex. I have had numerous girls ask to have sex with me this year and not ONCE did I ask a girl for sex. From my point of view, it is WOMEN who only want men for sex, insofar as that aligns perfectly with my lack of requesting it coupled with the requests I've been getting. In my microcosm, that holds true.
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We disagree, but who cares? In the end, there = a person or 10 out there that can hold up to your own quality standards and desires.
You must read about Debusseys "hooker" program. DO IT.
I guess in one way or another, we all pay for sex! Whether it is by taking a girl out and later having sex with her, or buying her a drink. So what is the difference in paying a hooker? I'm not sure there is one.
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I guess in one way or another, we all pay for sex! Whether it is by taking a girl out and later having sex with her, or buying her a drink. So what is the difference in paying a hooker? I'm not sure there is one.
And concidering the free time "program hooker" gives you, you can become rich in the process.
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And concidering the free time "program hooker" gives you, you can become rich in the process.
True. What if you're yearning for love though?
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True. What if you're yearning for love though?
True men don't give a shit about love. It's all about fucking chicks, and living like a barbarian.
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True men don't give a shit about love. It's all about fucking chicks, and living like a barbarian.
Truer words have never been spoken! 8)
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True men don't give a shit about love. It's all about fucking chicks, and living like a barbarian.
excellent retrieving of thread perilously close to sinking into the pit of gaydom. ;D
seriously though, you've got to admit, some of the subjects discussed on this board are just wack....but...what the hell...
Matt, one thing you might not have considered with the whole physical thing is, if you did shrink back to your former physicality, your self-confidence would obviously plummet as you are convinced of the physical thing and, because of this, women would see it and so perpetuate the problem. only now you would have the added feeling of regret and depression to deal with which would further plummet said confidence.
what worries me is that, given your rather cynical belief system, if something ever happens to you whereby you become somewhat physically incapacitated and unable to maintain your physical appearance, what then ???
one thing i do respect about you Matt is your introspection and honesty.
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Truth is, I do.
i don't doubt that for a minute, matt
unlike you most people on getbig are miserable haters :-\
positive guys like yourself feel no reason to hate because all the great sex makes you happy and see the good in the world ;D
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i don't doubt that for a minute, matt
unlike you most people on getbig are miserable haters :-\
positive guys like yourself feel no reason to hate because all the great sex makes you happy and see the good in the world ;D
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epic projection of self hate on to message board. :'(
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On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the worst....
Discuss, http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=fnQ8MVTVj50
You, sir, are a prime example of epic level of illiteracy!
It is delusion, not 'delusionality'. Did you by chance miss 7th grade?
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epic projection of self hate on to message board. :'(
that's what one of the "miseable haters" I was talking about would like to think :)
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You, sir, are a prime example of epic level of illiteracy!
It is delusion, not 'delusionality'. Did you by chance miss 7th grade?
'delusionality' is defined as a term used by people aware that they are postting on an internet message board where nobody actually gives a fuck about the 'literary perfectionists' that may roam the board.
this help some? :D
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that's what one of the "miseable haters" I was talking about would like to think :)
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aww...there there Earl...kevin kiss it better. :'( :-*
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Guys,
Why are you being so mean to me? :-\
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Guys,
Why are you being so mean to me? :-\
Getbig = Psychological Hardening Agent ;D
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Truth is, I do. And that is not me bragging about it, just factually speaking talking about my life.
Something I found very angering and insulting was when I wasn't getting girls when I was younger (under 20), I would ask some girls for advice on the topic trying to figure out what they wanted and they would say that they want a man with confidence (this came up more than anything at all). A couple of girls even went so far as to say that the reason why they weren't attracted to me is because I lacked confidence. Of course the REAL reason why they didn't go for me was because I was a 130 pound geek, but of course they didn't want to be rude and say that, feeling it was more polite to insult my personality I guess. ??? Now years later, NOTHING about my personality has changed and I'm getting girls as I please. The only changes have been physical. I wish girls would come clean and just admit they think just like men and are primarily attracted to physical attributes just as men are.
just walk around in a sleeveless shirt and see how many chicks check you out. I had one stalking me in the gym just now!
Who cares if you are an idiot, as long as you got muscles and look good, chicks will come to you, they want to best male specimen for themself to show off to they friends !
too many hoes!! thats a good thing!
but then thats about all you get with muscles, you still need an education and knowledge to actually make money and get somewhere in life
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just walk around in a sleeveless shirt and see how many chicks check you out. I had one stalking me in the gym just now!
Who cares if you are an idiot, as long as you got muscles and look good, chicks will come to you, they want to best male specimen for themself to show off to they friends !
too many hoes!! thats a good thing!
but then thats about all you get with muscles, you still need an education and knowledge to actually make money and get somewhere in life
This is exactly right. Although you are also right that ultimately brains are needed to get anywhere in life.
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This is exactly right. Although you are also right that ultimately brains are needed to get anywhere in life.
thank you sir canning!
I am glad we are both extremely alpha natural bodybuilders. I look forward to more monster insights and epic knowledge filled posts from you on getbig.
Excuse me while i go do a most mascular in front of my neighbour's kids!
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Matt, one thing you might not have considered with the whole physical thing is, if you did shrink back to your former physicality, your self-confidence would obviously plummet as you are convinced of the physical thing and, because of this, women would see it and so perpetuate the problem. only now you would have the added feeling of regret and depression to deal with which would further plummet said confidence.
Good points...
However, sometimes when I lose the weight I don't even notice. In between September and April (school) I would routinely shrink from 185 to 155. By the end of the year I wouldn't even really realize how much weight I dropped since it was so gradual and so I could not have been consciously aware of my physical change. :)
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Good points...
However, sometimes when I lose the weight I don't even notice. In between September and April (school) I would routinely shrink from 185 to 155. By the end of the year I wouldn't even really realize how much weight I dropped since it was so gradual and so I could not have been consciously aware of my physical change. :)
how much of this weight do you think was muscle?
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how much of this weight do you think was muscle?
My body composition was more or less the same. I could dig up the pictures, but it appeared as though my body fat remained constant as I lost the weight.
PS - why is TA so mean to me? :(
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My body composition was more or less the same. I could dig up the pictures, but it appeared as though my body fat remained constant as I lost the weight.
PS - why is TA so mean to me? :(
I don't know, never talk to the guy. My guess is that he is just less patient with your denial than I am.
so go ahead and estimate how many pounds of muscle you lost going from 185-155. Also let us know how fast you gained back this "muscle"
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I don't know, never talk to the guy. My guess is that he is just less patient with your denial than I am.
so go ahead and estimate how many pounds of muscle you lost going from 185-155. Also let us know how fast you gained back this "muscle"
30 pounds and what I lost was directly proportional to my body composition. So should you stand to say that I am 20% body fat at 185, I there lost six pounds of fat and 24 pounds of muscle in those six months, and gained it back in about the same time. :)
PS - ask TA to stop being mean to me. :(
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i have to admit i do give pretty good head.
fixed
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Hi guys, I will address a few things:
TA's psychological diagnosis is wrong. He should check the DSM-IV-TR criteria for these types of disorders before speaking on the topic like an expert. What I don't like about TA is that he states that things are facts when they aren't. Then the next time credible experts say something is a fact, the audience will tend to not trust them as much because you have people like TA purporting to know for a "fact" as well. TA should not speak on topics he doesn't know. I wrote my Honours thesis on mental disorders and I have a great deal of respect for rigid standards and proper reporting of true facts. There is no actual mental health standard by which I would be deemed delusional.
Also, while it's fair to make fun of my physique or some of my clips, you should all be mindful that I'm not an arrogant type of guy. :) My lifts are decent; for 1RMs, my deadlift is mid to high 400s, my squat is 405 at least to parallel, and my bench press is around 350. Although that clip is not an example of it, I can certainly do the 120 pound dumbbells for 12 reps with perfect form. Only one gym in my town actually has heavier dumbbells than that.
I usually get up to around 200-205 before stalling and yes I am obviously drug free.
MATT C PICTURE THREAD:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=99475.0
Discuss.
I will admit i have given you shit before, but gotta give you props as at least you try hard and are serious and dedicated more so then the idiots on this board like squatfaggy and you are truely natural unlike adam anus richard abeles who has juiced most of his life and still looks like his heritage a jewish conc camp victim..
You'd probably hit a good 235-240 after a couple of mild cycles since you train hard and eat right and would blow a buncha these clowns out the door..just ignore anus too he only posts in between visits from the mental hospitial when they let him out....
keep plugging away and nice site you have actually giving something back other than bullshit like the ass munces leafy turd anus and squathomo
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like said loony abeles is a Pyscho toxic delusional lunatic...28 year old boy dating 16 year old girls ...what a pervert...
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30 pounds and what I lost was directly proportional to my body composition. So should you stand to say that I am 20% body fat at 185, I there lost six pounds of fat and 24 pounds of muscle in those six months, and gained it back in about the same time. :)
PS - ask TA to stop being mean to me. :(
TA is not my friend, I don't know him. I appreciate him as a Getbig character that always makes the boards more interesting. I think he respects me partly because I told him he was too fat and needed to lose a lot more weight than he thought he did to get ripped. I told him that all he needed to do to lose weight was eat 3 moderate sized meals a day of whatever he wanted so long as it helped to keep him full. For him at the time that meant fast food, and the Adonis principles were born.
Your estimate of muscle loss makes no sense because it does not account for water weight and discounts the weight of your skeleton when calculating the percentages. Also think about what your saying. Do you really think it's possible to gain 24 lbs of muscle in six months. The weight you lost was probably almost all fat and water (if you continued training somewhat regularly) I doubt you lost any muscle at all. That you still looked to possess the same body comp at 155 is probably due to the fact that you still had a lot more weight to lose to get ripped. Going from 20% to 10% people tend to look similar so they think they are losing muscle by getting smaller. Once you get under 10% and continue to shed fat muscle definition gets a lot crisper and you actually start to look bigger. If you just keep the faith and diet a little bit further you will see the light.
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30 pounds and what I lost was directly proportional to my body composition. So should you stand to say that I am 20% body fat at 185, I there lost six pounds of fat and 24 pounds of muscle in those six months, and gained it back in about the same time. :)
PS - ask TA to stop being mean to me. :(
Ta lost me there ???