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Title: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 15, 2007, 08:20:39 PM
Here is MILOS (KNS) HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE in short:

Average male has 5 liters of blood (females have about 4)...At rest that blood is distributed throughout the body and follows certain path - normally supplying the body with physiological order of importance (what is needed the most is being on higher list of physiological priorities)...and simply organs and other tissues take preference over the skeletal muscle AT REST...

So, when body is NOT physical (when we are resting) about 12-18% of total blood goes to our muscles and the rest is distributed ELSEWHERE (as I said - according to physiological importance at that moment)...
Also, note that this 5 liters of blood are circulating quite slowly...

Well, when we start being more physically active...we start "moving" and using our "motors" ( read: MUSCLES) - our hearts start pumping a bit faster and as a result - blood start circulating that much faster and somewhat different...No longer certain organs, systems or tissues prevail in "need for blood" internal physiological war body is having on a daily bases...

Now body faces extreme shock - WEIGHT RESISTANCE TRAINING and should I say: INTENSE KIND of weight training only BODYBUILDING could create...and as a result OUR MUSCLES start winning the war and getting high on the list of "physiological importance for blood" list...

More and more blood follow the path to OUR MUSCLES!! Each muscle contraction, every rep, every set and every exercise increases the need for blood...Higher the intensity - higher the blood flow...
NEW #1 - PHYSIOLOGICAL IMPORTANCE winer is certainly SKELETAL MUSCLE AT WORK and soon we have MAJOR BLOOD FLOW into the area of our body which is engaged the most = OUR MUSCLES!!!

Well, as science has discovered: HYPEREMIA (INCREASED BLOOD FLOW TO THE PART OF THE BODY...in this instance OUR MUSCLES) reaches incredible 80% blood flow to the muscle with up to 20 times faster circulation!!!

PLEASE PEOPLE - FOCUS ON THIS!!!




If you want to deliver something to your muscles WHEN DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST TIME?




Before training when only 15 % of the blood is in the muscle?
After the training when blood is leaving your muscles...or MAYBE (???)

DURING THE TRAINING - when up to 80% of the BLOOD is...where...???

Oh - IN EXACT MUSCLE YOU ARE TRYING TO BUILD and doing all your heavy lifting for...day after day, week after week...month after month...should i even say - year after year...or for some even decade after decade - with MEDIOCRE results at best!

So, don't you think that IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY ACCOMPLISH when you have 80% of your blood in exact muscles you are trying to build and YOU ACT UPON IT - you would possibly IMPROVE like never before (or like all the athletes I am preparing who keep shocking the world with FAST IMPROVEMENTS)?

If you PREPARE your blood correctly (sound diet plan in general + 30 minutes BEFORE training knowing WHICH NUTRIENTS TO TAKE that will in synergy with YOUR WORKOUT DRINK insure that YOUR BLOOD IS ANABOLIC/ANTI-CATABOLIC BOMB - filled with maximal amount of anabolic and anti-catabolic nutrients as well as TIMELY RELEASED anabolic and anti-catabolic hormones...What do you think WILL HAPPEN?

Especially IF YOU TRAIN in this GIANT SETS FASHION where you fly from one exercise to the next, changing numerous training variables, performing mixture of lifts, using various grips, angles, tempo...repetition protocols, speeds...etc?

Well, you guessed it - YOU GET MR. OLYMPIA IN A MAKING...

I will only say this once: DON'T SEND EMPTY BLOOD TO YOUR MUSCLES AT WORK...YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME!!!

Would you want to send FED-EX, Airmail envelope to someone as the best and fastest way of 'sending' the envelope?

Well, PLEASE - do not send EMPTY ENVELOPE - you are paying HIGH PRICE for: NOTHING!!!

Make sure you stuff the envelope...and at the same time understand that IF YOU ARE SENDING EMPTY BLOOD to the muscle (your best friend who is anxiously awaiting to OPEN your gift envelope) - you are doing the same thing!

For "stuffing" your muscle envelope go to:

www.koloseum.com


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Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: joelocal on December 15, 2007, 08:22:02 PM
Hi Milos :D

Yours Truley,

The Coach
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: rocket on December 15, 2007, 08:24:34 PM
Hi Milos :D

Yours Truley,

The Coach

Hilarious that in 6 words you still managed to stuff it up.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 15, 2007, 08:30:10 PM
Hi Milos :D

Yours Truley,

The Coach

Hi Truley The Couch or was it Truly The Coach?

Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 15, 2007, 08:51:02 PM
Hi Truley The Couch or was it Truly The Coach?


He fucked it up Milos, it's supposed to say


Hi Milos

Yours Truly

Mr Intenseone,TheCoach, Joelocal...baseballmom.. ..etc, etc, etc
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: benz on December 15, 2007, 09:00:18 PM
Hi Truley The Couch or was it Truly The Coach?



Milos

How about giving a chance to JOELOCO (he had to change his name after placing 6th out of 5 at some loosy competition) and let him clean the toilets @ koloseum  ???
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 15, 2007, 09:01:53 PM
He fucked it up Milos, it's supposed to say


Hi Milos

Yours Truly

Mr Intenseone,TheCoach, Joelocal...baseballmom.. ..etc, etc, etc

Well, if my assumption is right I assume that he is NOT DIETING anymore so how come he...Never mind - he is probably at his honeymoon...I should be nice...

Hey how did he place at that show?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: benz on December 15, 2007, 09:02:55 PM
Well, if my assumption is right I assume that he is NOT DIETING anymore so how come he...Never mind - he is probably at his honeymoon...I should be nice...

Hey how did he place at that show?
6th out of 5
believe it or not, it happened
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 15, 2007, 09:03:13 PM
Well, if my assumption is right I assume that he is NOT DIETING anymore so how come he...Never mind - he is probably at his honeymoon...I should be nice...

Hey how did he place at that show?
6th. I tried to get him to come in......he simply refuses, even for diet/conditioning advice. He wanted to do it "his way" and......well.......you can see the results.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 15, 2007, 09:04:12 PM
Milos

How about giving a chance to JOELOCO (he had to change his name after placing 6th out of 5 at some loosy competition) and let him clean the toilets @ koloseum  ???

I am always about GIVING CHANCE and I would hire him as a trainer rather than cleaner...but I think he claims he have incredible personal training business already?

Well - it would certainly be bonus he brings them all to Koloseum...I'll give everyone ONE FREE GIANT SETS SESSION - and whoever survives - gets free membership in my gym...
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 15, 2007, 09:05:56 PM
6th out of 5
believe it or not, it happened

That sounds like something I am facing later next year when I step on the stage...16th out of 15...

Well, I'll do my best to crack the top 15 (not get DQ-d before show ends)...
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 15, 2007, 09:06:46 PM
 ::) ::) ::)

I was talking about HYPEREMIA... ;)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: benz on December 15, 2007, 09:07:37 PM
I am always about GIVING CHANCE and I would hire him as a trainer rather than cleaner...but I think he claims he have incredible personal training business already?

Well - it would certainly be bonus he brings them all to Koloseum...I'll give everyone ONE FREE GIANT SETS SESSION - and whoever survives - gets free membership in my gym...

I still hold my KOLOSEUM FREE PASS for 5 days (or maybe less?) so be sure to have some time when i visit you, john rambo of the ifbb scene  ;)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: joelocal on December 15, 2007, 09:12:44 PM
Hi Truley The Couch or was it Truly The Coach?



Be nice now Milos, I didn't say anything when you said Lori was a "sweatheart" ;D!
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: flexingtonsteele on December 15, 2007, 09:18:23 PM
That sounds like something I am facing later next year when I step on the stage...16th out of 15...

Well, I'll do my best to crack the top 15 (not get DQ-d before show ends)...

So milos,

When are u going to step onstage. We all know your damn near ready, and the suspension is up ,and u look better than 90% of todays competitive pros offseason.

So when is the date milos? WHEN?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: webcake on December 15, 2007, 09:19:50 PM
So milos,

When are u going to step onstage. We all know your damn near ready, and the suspension is up ,and u look better than 90% of todays competitive pros offseason.

So when is the date milos? WHEN?

I believe he is doing the Japan Pro. October was it, Milos?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: joelocal on December 15, 2007, 09:22:50 PM
I am always about GIVING CHANCE and I would hire him as a trainer rather than cleaner...but I think he claims he have incredible personal training business already?

Well - it would certainly be bonus he brings them all to Koloseum...I'll give everyone ONE FREE GIANT SETS SESSION - and whoever survives - gets free membership in my gym...

Yes, it would be kinda hard to talk about 70 people into driving to Placentia from Huntington Beach.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: joelocal on December 15, 2007, 09:23:27 PM
6th out of 5
believe it or not, it happened

 ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 15, 2007, 09:24:53 PM
Yes, it would be kinda hard to talk about 70 people into driving to Placentia from Huntington Beach.
Oh, Joey.........
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 09:25:07 PM
Yes, it would be kinda hard to talk about 70 people into driving to Placentia from Huntington Beach.
  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: webcake on December 15, 2007, 09:25:14 PM
I am always about GIVING CHANCE and I would hire him as a trainer rather than cleaner...but I think he claims he have incredible personal training business already?

Well - it would certainly be bonus he brings them all to Koloseum...I'll give everyone ONE FREE GIANT SETS SESSION - and whoever survives - gets free membership in my gym...

If i lived near you (and in the same country ;D) id take up that offer. Probably wouldn't be able to complete the workout, but they look like really hard, fun workouts.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 15, 2007, 09:25:56 PM
  ::) ::) ::)

You have a problem, Mr. Eurotrash?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 15, 2007, 09:26:49 PM
You have a problem, Mr. Eurotrash?
hahaha He's all drugs, his opinion is null and void.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 09:27:02 PM
Well, if my assumption is right I assume that he is NOT DIETING anymore so how come he...Never mind - he is probably at his honeymoon...I should be nice...

Hey how did he place at that show?
You missed out on Zane like conditioning    ;D
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 15, 2007, 09:28:21 PM
hahaha He's all drugs, his opinion is null and void.

I still can't get over a 19 year old juicing to the gills just to be a "big" guy.  Epic eurotrash and having no patience to make gains naturally ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 09:29:21 PM
You have a problem, Mr. Eurotrash?
no problem here buddy...
eheheh its funny how you call me all drugs but you don't know a thing about me chaos... Sorry that i look 10 times better than you and at 10 years younger than you. Be mad at your parents, not at me... They passed their genes
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: joelocal on December 15, 2007, 09:29:51 PM
I still can't get over a 19 year old juicing to the gills just to be a "big" guy.  Epic eurotrash and having no patience to make gains naturally ::)


But remember, he's a whole 19 years old and knows everything.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 15, 2007, 09:31:12 PM
no problem here buddy...
eheheh its funny how you call me all drugs but you don't know a thing about me chaos... Sorry that i look 10 times better than you and at 10 years younger than you. Be mad at your parents, not at me... They passed their genes
You're 15 years younger than me, but you look 5 years older. You've aged yourself badly with all the dope you've done. Besides, since you didn't build a base of muscle first, when your kidneys fail, you'll look like Tom Prince. ;D
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: webcake on December 15, 2007, 09:31:54 PM
no problem here buddy...
eheheh its funny how you call me all drugs but you don't know a thing about me chaos... Sorry that i look 10 times better than you and at 10 years younger than you. Be mad at your parents, not at me... They passed their genes

But at the end of the day you live in Bosnia. Congratulations.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 09:32:34 PM
You're 15 years younger than me, but you look 5 years older. You've aged yourself badly with all the dope you've done. Besides, since you didn't build a base of muscle first, when your kidneys fail, you'll look like Tom Prince. ;D
sure i will   ::)
when i was born i was bigger than tom prince now...
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: webcake on December 15, 2007, 09:32:45 PM
You're 15 years younger than me, but you look 5 years older. You've aged yourself badly with all the dope you've done. Besides, since you didn't build a base of muscle first, when your kidneys fail, you'll look like Tom Prince. ;D

Are you saying that Bron will almost die for us bitches?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 09:33:36 PM
But at the end of the day you live in Bosnia. Congratulations.
haha   
accomplishment  :)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: webcake on December 15, 2007, 09:34:57 PM
haha   
accomplishment  :)

ahhhh, the miracle of modern pharmaceuticals.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: joelocal on December 15, 2007, 09:35:16 PM
haha   
accomplishment  :)

haha...gyno, right side, check it out!
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 09:37:11 PM
haha...gyno, right side, check it out!
its not gyno, its just the way i squezed the chest
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 15, 2007, 09:37:55 PM
haha   
accomplishment  :)
Epic narrow shoulders, fucked up biceps, wide waist, gyno and 10% bodyfat.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: webcake on December 15, 2007, 09:39:32 PM
its not gyno, its just the way i squezed the chest

So you can squeeze your chest and breast tissue appears behind the nipple ???
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 09:39:42 PM
Epic narrow shoulders, fucked up biceps, wide waist, gyno and 10% bodyfat.
you forgat to mention a 22 inch arms at only 19   :o
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: joelocal on December 15, 2007, 09:39:52 PM
its not gyno, its just the way i squezed the chest

The hell it isn't. Dude, people on here may dish out alot of shit, but make no mistake, the people you are responding to know what they're doing and saying.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 15, 2007, 09:41:00 PM
No way these arms are 22 inches, douchebag.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 09:43:06 PM
No way these arms are 22 inches, douchebag.

sure they not  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 09:43:56 PM
one more for my friend chaos  ;D
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 15, 2007, 09:45:10 PM
one more for my friend chaos  ;D


gyno in BOTH nips :o
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 15, 2007, 09:46:37 PM
gyno in BOTH nips :o
And 18" arms......at 5'10", 22" arms would dwarf your head, clearly your arms do not.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 09:47:56 PM
gyno in BOTH nips :o
sure it is    ::) ::) ::)
don't hate dude, maybe if you workout as hard as you do and in the next 10 years with hard commitment you can be almost as big as me... But han again naaahhhhhh... its your genetics. sorry
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 09:49:58 PM
And 18" arms......at 5'10", 22" arms would dwarf your head, clearly your arms do not.
ahahahah   ok    ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: webcake on December 15, 2007, 09:50:29 PM
sure it is    ::) ::) ::)
don't hate dude, maybe if you workout as hard as you do and in the next 10 years with hard commitment you can be almost as big as me... But han again naaahhhhhh... its your genetics. sorry

You already admitted to juicing, so why are you denying having gyno so much? You have gyno, deal with it. Its not uncommon or anything.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 15, 2007, 09:51:07 PM
sure it is    ::) ::) ::)
don't hate dude, maybe if you workout as hard as you do and in the next 10 years with hard commitment you can be almost as big as me... But han again naaahhhhhh... its your genetics. sorry

You still haven't explained to me why a 19 year old is juicing to the gills ???
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 09:51:40 PM
You already admitted to juicing, so why are you denying having gyno so much? You have gyno, deal with it. Its not uncommon or anything.

yes i did a cycle, but that is not a gyno... I know myself better than you
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 09:52:28 PM
And 18" arms......at 5'10", 22" arms would dwarf your head, clearly your arms do not.
sure 18 buddy    ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 15, 2007, 09:52:54 PM

yes i did a cycle, but that is not a gyno... I know myself better than you

of course it's not gyno, we're all just blind ::)

Typical sneaky eurotrash sneaky fuck >:(
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 15, 2007, 09:53:56 PM
sure 18 buddy    ::)

Why are you posing basically nude in a purple thong in a public park?  Seems pretty homosexual to me.  Not judging you, though.  Queers are "people" too. ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: webcake on December 15, 2007, 09:54:09 PM

yes i did a cycle, but that is not a gyno... I know myself better than you

Its not a matter of having to know you. You posted pics of yourself and you have gyno. Anyone who looks at the pics can tell that, regardless of whether they know you or not. Like i said, a lot of people have gyno, so just deal with it.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 09:55:14 PM
Why are you posing basically nude in a purple thong in a public park?  Seems pretty homosexual to me.  Not judging you, though.  Queers are "people" too. ::)
nah man- we don't have those kinds in our country
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 15, 2007, 09:55:44 PM
nah man- we don't have those kinds in our country

of course you don't ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: webcake on December 15, 2007, 09:57:23 PM
nah man- we don't have those kinds in our country

With the exception of you, right?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: youandme on December 15, 2007, 09:59:17 PM
its not gyno, its just the way i squezed the chest

yeah that is gyno.


hope this helped
nah man- we don't have those kinds in our country

Are you performing a webcam show in one of those pics?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 15, 2007, 10:00:22 PM
nah man- we don't have those kinds in our country
hahahaha Your country invented "those kinds". hahhaaaa talk about delusional.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 10:01:33 PM
eheh you guys are funny, epic jealousy   ;D
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 15, 2007, 10:03:02 PM
eheh you guys are funny, epic jealousy   ;D
Of a doped up, teenage snot nosed, drug addict? I don't think so.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 10:04:40 PM
Of a doped up, teenage snot nosed, drug addict? I don't think so.
How come you consider me a drug addict now... You took way more drugs than me in your lifetime i am sure
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 15, 2007, 10:07:39 PM
BRON!!!!!!!!   You fucken bullshitter....I just saw I had a "new message" and it was from you, from not too long ago.  Care to explain yourself?  Why do you claim on the main boards you did only one cycle but in your PM to me you claimed SIX ??? ::)

eheh why all the flame... i have done six cycles of naposims, decca,a nd test- but what is the big deal. its not even about me, its about the sport. I like to push myself and workout- and yes i am 19
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 10:08:51 PM
BRON!!!!!!!!   You fucken bullshitter....I just saw I had a "new message" and it was from you, from not too long ago.  Care to explain yourself?  Why do you claim on the main boards you did only one cycle but in your PM to me you claimed SIX ??? ::)

ahahahahahhahahahaha   poor attempt little guy
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 15, 2007, 10:09:58 PM
ahahahahahhahahahaha   poor attempt little guy

Look at the pussy deny it ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 15, 2007, 10:10:58 PM
How come you consider me a drug addict now... You took way more drugs than me in your lifetime i am sure
How can you be so sure ???
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 10:12:39 PM
How can you be so sure ???
how can you  ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 15, 2007, 10:13:48 PM
Just got this PM from "bron".  Hey noob, just so you know, I will post PMs....so you might wanna start lying in those like you do on the main boards ;)

why did you make my mesage to you public? i was trying to make peace with you but you are an asshole.  nobody will beleive you that i did six cycles, i have genetics better than everyone on this sight.  so what if i did six cycles?  i could do only one and still look better than you or yout friends
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 15, 2007, 10:14:27 PM
how can you  ::)
I don't claim 22" arms or to be 19 YO when in reality your arms are 18" and you are 35.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 10:15:11 PM
Just got this PM from "bron".  Hey noob, just so you know, I will post PMs....so you might wanna start lying in those like you do on the main boards ;)

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
man you need to get a life ahahahahha
I haven't had a laugh like this at 7 am in years
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: webcake on December 15, 2007, 10:16:33 PM
6 cycles huh? So i guess that means you have been on the juice since about 16-17, is this right?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 15, 2007, 10:17:04 PM
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
man you need to get a life ahahahahha
I haven't had a laugh like this at 7 am in years

Yeah, I haven't laughed like that either in a while.  You really are one delusional fuck.  Who do you think you're kidding?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 10:22:24 PM
Yeah, I haven't laughed like that either in a while.  You really are one delusional fuck.  Who do you think you're kidding?
i laugh at guys like you in the gym ehehe
I make them carry the dumbells  for me
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: webcake on December 15, 2007, 10:23:51 PM
i laugh at guys like you in the gym ehehe
I make them carry the dumbells  for me

Haha oh brother. You are just digging yourself a grave here. Just stop already little man.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 15, 2007, 10:25:33 PM
i laugh at guys like you in the gym ehehe

Yeah, I bet you do ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 15, 2007, 10:25:43 PM
i laugh at guys like you in the gym ehehe
I make them carry the dumbells  for me
How pathetic you need other guys to carry weights for you. What good are your "22" guns if you can' even carry your own weights? ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 15, 2007, 10:27:50 PM
Haha oh brother. You are just digging yourself a grave here. Just stop already little man.
sure, well by that i am guessing you must be well over 300 lbs at 6-7 % body fat... for calling me little
you should be at the olympia stage
props to you big guy  ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: webcake on December 15, 2007, 10:32:08 PM
sure, well by that i am guessing you must be well over 300 lbs at 6-7 % body fat... for calling me little
you should be at the olympia stage
props to you big guy  ::)

Calm down tiny. I know its shit in Bosnia but deal with it.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 16, 2007, 01:37:26 AM
Be nice now Milos, I didn't say anything when you said Lori was a "sweatheart" ;D!

Did I say that?

I must remind you - lady that makes man's heart sweat is a "sweatheart"... 8) 8) 8)

Did you file for divorce yet??? Or you have 3 more days on a honeymoon...?

Sweatheart ladies load moon full of honey...but (I guess?) your low carb diet is over...

Anyway...when will you bring your better (and maybe bigger? ::)...well, I should say MORE MUSCULAR) half to Koloseum?

I would LOVE to take you guys through my FREE honeymoon-gift giant set for ANY BODY PART YOU CHOOSE...
After all these years I would like you to experience TRUE INTENSITY (with famous pink d-bells and all)...
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 16, 2007, 01:39:53 AM
I believe he is doing the Japan Pro. October was it, Milos?

I absolutely want to do Japan pro...FOR SURE...And IF I could possibly find some time to train (and maybe eat?) in the mean time - I might do some other shows...but to be honest - I am BEHIND...due to just unbelievable schedule as of late...
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: omg on December 16, 2007, 01:42:59 AM
hi milos,

i take a shake 1 hour before i workout, so there are amino acids in the blood when i am working out. doesnt that work good enough? what do i have to do to be as swole as you?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 16, 2007, 01:45:13 AM
Yes, it would be kinda hard to talk about 70 people into driving to Placentia from Huntington Beach.

Hard but NOT impossible.

Especially if you let me do FREE SEMINAR to YOUR CLIENTS with you by my side (I am serious - we could do TOGETHER...and I could analyze each and every of your client WITH YOU - and than we could both give them our point of view and opinions...

And initial seminar COULD be at your place too...

I would like to see HOW MANY of your clients (YOU INCLUDED) have any QUESTIONS about what I wrote here (HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE ARTICLE)...?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 16, 2007, 02:14:05 AM
hi milos,

i take a shake 1 hour before i workout, so there are amino acids in the blood when i am working out. doesnt that work good enough? what do i have to do to be as swole as you?

Now - lets be more realistic: to be "swole as me" is humanly impossible - everyone knows that...but getting close (after decade of training 6 times a day, 7 days a week...etc) is MAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYBBBBBB BBBEEEEEEEE possible?
Maybe. I doubt but - oh well...try and after 5 years when you realize you are not even close - come to me and I'll tell you a secret... ;)

Well, secret is: do you know exactly WHAT is in your blood IF you follow certain dietary regimen?
Do you know status of your blood even before that shake one hour before you workout?

Besides - what are you sending to your blood from that shake?

Amino acids?

No question - there will be some...[some of the free amino acids will be released during digestion of I assume your protein rich foods...absorbed by the intestinal cells and than by the blood circulation transported to tissues!!!
but what kind of amino acids and which tissues (considering that you are still ONE HOUR away from extreme physical effort thus BLOOD CIRCULATION is slow and far, far away from your place of choice (muscle)...

And how about AA oxidation?

Are you sure all (rather ANY...and IF any - how much) of those amino acids will be available in your blood by the time of your 5th and 6th set (for example)...

And how about complementing anabolic and anti-catabolic hormones present in blood at the same (OBVIOUSLY - MOST IMPORTANT) time...



I am NOT saying that you will have "EMPTY BLOOD"...but I am suggesting your blood will be far away from primed for MAXIMAL EFFECT...something I claim MY SUPPLEMENTS deliver - with utmost precision and in perfectly timely matter...(but than again...it is MY PRODUCT...so as it goes with - The Gypsy praising his old toothless horse...to be a "wonder-horse"...you can take what I am telling you and consider that I have experimented with this idea in mind for over 25 years - claiming that I do have THE MOST SUPERIOR "HYPER-ANABOLIC" SUPPLEMENT on the market today...or...you can assume (like many others) I am some kind of charlatan selling "Snake Oil" - panacea for every human disease and than some (my toothless horse is on it - as well...)

Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: kyomu on December 16, 2007, 02:20:49 AM

yes i did a cycle, but that is not a gyno... I know myself better than you
Sorry. These are 100% GYNOs.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: omg on December 16, 2007, 02:54:57 AM
Now - lets be more realistic: to be "swole as me" is humanly impossible - everyone knows that...but getting close (after decade of training 6 times a day, 7 days a week...etc) is MAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYBBBBBB BBBEEEEEEEE possible?
Maybe. I doubt but - oh well...try and after 5 years when you realize you are not even close - come to me and I'll tell you a secret... ;)

Well, secret is: do you know exactly WHAT is in your blood IF you follow certain dietary regimen?
Do you know status of your blood even before that shake one hour before you workout?

Besides - what are you sending to your blood from that shake?

Amino acids?

No question - there will be some...[some of the free amino acids will be released during digestion of I assume your protein rich foods...absorbed by the intestinal cells and than by the blood circulation transported to tissues!!!
but what kind of amino acids and which tissues (considering that you are still ONE HOUR away from extreme physical effort thus BLOOD CIRCULATION is slow and far, far away from your place of choice (muscle)...

And how about AA oxidation?

Are you sure all (rather ANY...and IF any - how much) of those amino acids will be available in your blood by the time of your 5th and 6th set (for example)...

And how about complementing anabolic and anti-catabolic hormones present in blood at the same (OBVIOUSLY - MOST IMPORTANT) time...



I am NOT saying that you will have "EMPTY BLOOD"...but I am suggesting your blood will be far away from primed for MAXIMAL EFFECT...something I claim MY SUPPLEMENTS deliver - with utmost precision and in perfectly timely matter...(but than again...it is MY PRODUCT...so as it goes with - The Gypsy praising his old toothless horse...to be a "wonder-horse"...you can take what I am telling you and consider that I have experimented with this idea in mind for over 25 years - claiming that I do have THE MOST SUPERIOR "HYPER-ANABOLIC" SUPPLEMENT on the market today...or...you can assume (like many others) I am some kind of charlatan selling "Snake Oil" - panacea for every human disease and than some (my toothless horse is on it - as well...)



Milos,

How do you exactly time your supplements? All protein has to take time to digest and the time taken depends on how much food you have in your stomache doesnt it? If you have fiber or ate some oily stuff the meal before, then the digestion of your supplements would also be slowed down wouldnt it?

As such, would it be a prerequisite for anyone to take your supplement on an empty stomache?

I always assumed that whey is digested in 45mins on an empty stomache and lasts 4 hours in the bloodstream, long enough for most workouts. That is why i take it 1hours before a workout

As for being as swole as you. of course, i meant that relatively, it is impossible to be as swole as you bro! lol
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: benz on December 16, 2007, 06:22:15 AM
one more for my friend chaos  ;D


hahha honestly, you have gyno lol

well done croatian failure
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Marty Champions on December 16, 2007, 06:54:33 AM
Now - lets be more realistic: to be "swole as me" is humanly impossible - everyone knows that...but getting close (after decade of training 6 times a day, 7 days a week...etc) is MAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYBBBBBB BBBEEEEEEEE possible?
Maybe. I doubt but - oh well...try and after 5 years when you realize you are not even close - come to me and I'll tell you a secret... ;)

Well, secret is: do you know exactly WHAT is in your blood IF you follow certain dietary regimen?
Do you know status of your blood even before that shake one hour before you workout?

Besides - what are you sending to your blood from that shake?

Amino acids?

No question - there will be some...[some of the free amino acids will be released during digestion of I assume your protein rich foods...absorbed by the intestinal cells and than by the blood circulation transported to tissues!!!
but what kind of amino acids and which tissues (considering that you are still ONE HOUR away from extreme physical effort thus BLOOD CIRCULATION is slow and far, far away from your place of choice (muscle)...

And how about AA oxidation?

Are you sure all (rather ANY...and IF any - how much) of those amino acids will be available in your blood by the time of your 5th and 6th set (for example)...

And how about complementing anabolic and anti-catabolic hormones present in blood at the same (OBVIOUSLY - MOST IMPORTANT) time...



I am NOT saying that you will have "EMPTY BLOOD"...but I am suggesting your blood will be far away from primed for MAXIMAL EFFECT...something I claim MY SUPPLEMENTS deliver - with utmost precision and in perfectly timely matter...(but than again...it is MY PRODUCT...so as it goes with - The Gypsy praising his old toothless horse...to be a "wonder-horse"...you can take what I am telling you and consider that I have experimented with this idea in mind for over 25 years - claiming that I do have THE MOST SUPERIOR "HYPER-ANABOLIC" SUPPLEMENT on the market today...or...you can assume (like many others) I am some kind of charlatan selling "Snake Oil" - panacea for every human disease and than some (my toothless horse is on it - as well...)



stop lying to everyone milos, your head is up in the clouds and ready to get pounded when planet nibiru arrives.

there are ONLY protien fat and carbs

what you have a 4th macro nutrient you idiot?

lets say you take 5 cup fulls of your "special formula" and compare it to 5 cups of CHEAP cereal and a half gallon of icecream

how is your special product going to be any better when the calorie effect of the cheaper product will out weigh your sorry expensive lower in calorie formula?

the fact is the more calories and the more workout the better

you are going to hell milos for continuing to lie to people, the draconians will fry you when they arrive in 2012

all this stupid fluff talk you say about "EMPTY BLOOD" ahahah so stupid eat a box of CHEAP cereal will give you more effect than a milos shake wich cost 10 times as much and at about a 10th of the calories you LIAR GO TO HELL BURN FOREVER
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: BBJunkie on December 16, 2007, 06:59:07 AM
Hi Milos, if I'm taking the KNS program, which has the highest levels of EAA's, will I still need to consume 300-400 grams of protein as well?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Marty Champions on December 16, 2007, 07:02:42 AM
milos maybe you should stop wasting time scamming people and tell them to by cheap cereal instead and redeem your washed up juicing lame ass (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=154295.0;attach=176583;image)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: joshk on December 16, 2007, 07:09:04 AM
Here is MILOS (KNS) HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE in short:

Average male has 5 liters of blood (females have about 4)...At rest that blood is distributed throughout the body and follows certain path - normally supplying the body with physiological order of importance (what is needed the most is being on higher list of physiological priorities)...and simply organs and other tissues take preference over the skeletal muscle AT REST...

So, when body is NOT physical (when we are resting) about 12-18% of total blood goes to our muscles and the rest is distributed ELSEWHERE (as I said - according to physiological importance at that moment)...
Also, note that this 5 liters of blood are circulating quite slowly...

Well, when we start being more physically active...we start "moving" and using our "motors" ( read: MUSCLES) - our hearts start pumping a bit faster and as a result - blood start circulating that much faster and somewhat different...No longer certain organs, systems or tissues prevail in "need for blood" internal physiological war body is having on a daily bases...

Now body faces extreme shock - WEIGHT RESISTANCE TRAINING and should I say: INTENSE KIND of weight training only BODYBUILDING could create...and as a result OUR MUSCLES start winning the war and getting high on the list of "physiological importance for blood" list...

More and more blood follow the path to OUR MUSCLES!! Each muscle contraction, every rep, every set and every exercise increases the need for blood...Higher the intensity - higher the blood flow...
NEW #1 - PHYSIOLOGICAL IMPORTANCE winer is certainly SKELETAL MUSCLE AT WORK and soon we have MAJOR BLOOD FLOW into the area of our body which is engaged the most = OUR MUSCLES!!!

Well, as science has discovered: HYPEREMIA (INCREASED BLOOD FLOW TO THE PART OF THE BODY...in this instance OUR MUSCLES) reaches incredible 80% blood flow to the muscle with up to 20 times faster circulation!!!

PLEASE PEOPLE - FOCUS ON THIS!!!




If you want to deliver something to your muscles WHEN DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST TIME?




Before training when only 15 % of the blood is in the muscle?
After the training when blood is leaving your muscles...or MAYBE (???)

DURING THE TRAINING - when up to 80% of the BLOOD is...where...???

Oh - IN EXACT MUSCLE YOU ARE TRYING TO BUILD and doing all your heavy lifting for...day after day, week after week...month after month...should i even say - year after year...or for some even decade after decade - with MEDIOCRE results at best!

So, don't you think that IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY ACCOMPLISH when you have 80% of your blood in exact muscles you are trying to build and YOU ACT UPON IT - you would possibly IMPROVE like never before (or like all the athletes I am preparing who keep shocking the world with FAST IMPROVEMENTS)?

If you PREPARE your blood correctly (sound diet plan in general + 30 minutes BEFORE training knowing WHICH NUTRIENTS TO TAKE that will in synergy with YOUR WORKOUT DRINK insure that YOUR BLOOD IS ANABOLIC/ANTI-CATABOLIC BOMB - filled with maximal amount of anabolic and anti-catabolic nutrients as well as TIMELY RELEASED anabolic and anti-catabolic hormones...What do you think WILL HAPPEN?

Especially IF YOU TRAIN in this GIANT SETS FASHION where you fly from one exercise to the next, changing numerous training variables, performing mixture of lifts, using various grips, angles, tempo...repetition protocols, speeds...etc?

Well, you guessed it - YOU GET MR. OLYMPIA IN A MAKING...

I will only say this once: DON'T SEND EMPTY BLOOD TO YOUR MUSCLES AT WORK...YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME!!!

Would you want to send FED-EX, Airmail envelope to someone as the best and fastest way of 'sending' the envelope?

Well, PLEASE - do not send EMPTY ENVELOPE - you are paying HIGH PRICE for: NOTHING!!!

Make sure you stuff the envelope...and at the same time understand that IF YOU ARE SENDING EMPTY BLOOD to the muscle (your best friend who is anxiously awaiting to OPEN your gift envelope) - you are doing the same thing!

For "stuffing" your muscle envelope go to:

www.koloseum.com


For special (30%) discount - type this code: SMNR


30%,this is nice!!! I've been wanting to try these products for a while, but the prices were little too inhibitive.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Marty Champions on December 16, 2007, 07:11:26 AM
milos is a great contributer to the ways of DECEPTION

hes all about the MONEY folks!

what a greedy peice of shit!!
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Marty Champions on December 16, 2007, 07:15:06 AM
30%,this is nice!!! I've been wanting to try these products for a while, but the prices were little too inhibitive.

hahah you are STUPID IDIOT

the product is nothing more than a protien fat or carb you fool!!! i bet it tastes like pure sugar

if you want something cheap and effective before you go to the gym simply eat couple bags of CANDYCORN if will give you that extra pump in the gym for only a dollar its pure corn syrup thats all you need is all sugar. what you think milos has contact with aliens on planet nibiru and gave him some special 'ting' that isnt a protien fat or carb

you have been decieved you are OWNED
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: kiwiol on December 16, 2007, 07:26:35 AM
hahah you are STUPID IDIOT

the product is nothing more than a protien fat or carb you fool!!! i bet it tastes like pure sugar

if you want something cheap and effective before you go to the gym simply eat couple bags of CANDYCORN if will give you that extra pump in the gym for only a dollar its pure corn syrup thats all you need is all sugar. what you think milos has contact with aliens on planet nibiru and gave him some special 'ting' that isnt a protien fat or carb

you have been decieved you are OWNED

It's all about muscle gayning isn't it, DW?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: joshk on December 16, 2007, 07:27:38 AM
hahah you are STUPID IDIOT

the product is nothing more than a protien fat or carb you fool!!! i bet it tastes like pure sugar

if you want something cheap and effective before you go to the gym simply eat couple bags of CANDYCORN if will give you that extra pump in the gym for only a dollar its pure corn syrup thats all you need is all sugar. what you think milos has contact with aliens on planet nibiru and gave him some special 'ting' that isnt a protien fat or carb

you have been decieved you are OWNED

Well, buenos dias there daddywaddy (it's 7:20 PST). It's a great day.

Thanks for your opinion, but his arguments are pretty convincing, and I'd like to try them. Besides, Milos does seem very well educated in pharmacology as well as nutrition.

Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: SF1900 on December 16, 2007, 07:29:38 AM
To Bron in 88: there is no doubt you look better than most people, BUT, if you are that young, why juice SO hard? You claim only one cycle and I HIGHLY doubt that. I guess if you are that young, you will realize your potential mistake later in life.

Good luck!
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Marty Champions on December 16, 2007, 07:41:15 AM
Well, buenos dias there daddywaddy (it's 7:20 PST). It's a great day.

Thanks for your opinion, but his arguments are pretty convincing, and I'd like to try them. Besides, Milos does seem very well educated in pharmacology as well as nutrition.



hahah go right ahead and give him your  money. he is obviously smarter than you  and deserves your money more than you , you have no brain

he forgot to mention WATER when you eat something during your workout you will get dehydrated fast, you can only eat so much of anything during a workout till it feels like you have a brick in your stomach. you are still a fool for falling into this scam

you will need tons of water and lots of food before after and during your workout. there is NO special ingreidient stop being so gullable, it can ONLY be a protien fat or carb, even at that there is an absolute limit to how much strength and muscle you can gain after years spent training. you are probably a beginner and know jack and shit thus far
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: oldman on December 16, 2007, 08:14:18 AM
Milos

Why dont you list your ingredients???
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: kyomu on December 16, 2007, 08:26:14 AM
hahah go right ahead and give him your  money. he is obviously smarter than you  and deserves your money more than you , you have no brain

he forgot to mention WATER when you eat something during your workout you will get dehydrated fast, you can only eat so much of anything during a workout till it feels like you have a brick in your stomach. you are still a fool for falling into this scam

you will need tons of water and lots of food before after and during your workout. there is NO special ingreidient stop being so gullable, it can ONLY be a protien fat or carb, even at that there is an absolute limit to how much strength and muscle you can gain after years spent training. you are probably a beginner and know jack and shit thus far
Milos was emphasizing "Amino science"... How do you think about it  DW?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Marty Champions on December 16, 2007, 08:31:43 AM
Milos was emphasizing "Amino science"... How do you think about it  DW?

the only amino science out there would be a combination of certain aminos while the stomach is empty of all previous foods and no insulin present to have a higher growth hormone signaling. but as soon as you add a different amino it fucks it all up, even to try something like that is silly as shit because you need calories to grow more than anything, not some majic combo. I beleive the colgan institute of sports nutrition did these gh experiemtns from amino acid combinations

its all complete bullshit yet milos is nothing more than an old street hustler making anything kind of shitty money he can by selling lies
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 16, 2007, 08:36:38 AM
Milos, where's Nasser's money?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: TooPowerful4u on December 16, 2007, 09:08:32 AM
Id like to start by saying ...DADDYWADDY SHUT THE F*K UP... you are anoying and are poluting a good subject with your presence...go be a parasite on some other thread....you look "ok" and i mean that..nothing more....you dont know shit, and you are fkkn ugly

ok that said.....

MILOS, ID LIKE TO HEAR YOUR OPINION ON ACTIVE RECOVERY
Since you state that nutrient rich blood flow is optimal for muscle growth when blood flow is maximal to the muscles, do you incorporate a few light, high rep sets for the same muscle group just trained the following day?  I would assume this would have to be an easily/quickly digested and specific nutrient enriched meal such as egg whites and a fast carb source with the possible addition or even replacement with a protein shake with your supplements.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: biceps on December 16, 2007, 09:18:05 AM
If the molecular weight is smaller than 10.000 Daltons it will pas true the digesting system very quik (to the small intestine )and will enter in the blood stream immediately.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Disgusted on December 16, 2007, 10:44:39 AM

MILOS, ID LIKE TO HEAR YOUR OPINION ON ACTIVE RECOVERY
Since you state that nutrient rich blood flow is optimal for muscle growth when blood flow is maximal to the muscles, do you incorporate a few light, high rep sets for the same muscle group just trained the following day?  I would assume this would have to be an easily/quickly digested and specific nutrient enriched meal such as egg whites and a fast carb source with the possible addition or even replacement with a protein shake with your supplements.

If I may interject.  ;D I would assume since your muscle are already in a state of recovery similar to a type of injury (actually very similar) that extra blood is already in the muscle similar to "swelling" from the workout (injury) done the day before.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 16, 2007, 10:58:12 AM
Hard but NOT impossible.

Especially if you let me do FREE SEMINAR to YOUR CLIENTS with you by my side (I am serious - we could do TOGETHER...and I could analyze each and every of your client WITH YOU - and than we could both give them our point of view and opinions...

And initial seminar COULD be at your place too...

I would like to see HOW MANY of your clients (YOU INCLUDED) have any QUESTIONS about what I wrote here (HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE ARTICLE)...?
This is an absolutely fair offer, I would be surprised if Joseph didn't take advantage of it.

Then again how many of his 70 clients would possibly leave and go for Milos' style instead ;)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: THE MUSCULAR on December 16, 2007, 12:15:45 PM
HI Milos

thanks Million for the explanation of such thing like that. i still remeber one guy say about you .. " if we live in a world without people like you.. we wil stay in Stone Age "

sorry if there is any mistake. its my second language.

Milos, your great really.

 :)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Necrosis on December 16, 2007, 12:37:14 PM
Here is MILOS (KNS) HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE in short:

Average male has 5 liters of blood (females have about 4)...At rest that blood is distributed throughout the body and follows certain path - normally supplying the body with physiological order of importance (what is needed the most is being on higher list of physiological priorities)...and simply organs and other tissues take preference over the skeletal muscle AT REST...

So, when body is NOT physical (when we are resting) about 12-18% of total blood goes to our muscles and the rest is distributed ELSEWHERE (as I said - according to physiological importance at that moment)...
Also, note that this 5 liters of blood are circulating quite slowly...

Well, when we start being more physically active...we start "moving" and using our "motors" ( read: MUSCLES) - our hearts start pumping a bit faster and as a result - blood start circulating that much faster and somewhat different...No longer certain organs, systems or tissues prevail in "need for blood" internal physiological war body is having on a daily bases...

Now body faces extreme shock - WEIGHT RESISTANCE TRAINING and should I say: INTENSE KIND of weight training only BODYBUILDING could create...and as a result OUR MUSCLES start winning the war and getting high on the list of "physiological importance for blood" list...

More and more blood follow the path to OUR MUSCLES!! Each muscle contraction, every rep, every set and every exercise increases the need for blood...Higher the intensity - higher the blood flow...
NEW #1 - PHYSIOLOGICAL IMPORTANCE winer is certainly SKELETAL MUSCLE AT WORK and soon we have MAJOR BLOOD FLOW into the area of our body which is engaged the most = OUR MUSCLES!!!

Well, as science has discovered: HYPEREMIA (INCREASED BLOOD FLOW TO THE PART OF THE BODY...in this instance OUR MUSCLES) reaches incredible 80% blood flow to the muscle with up to 20 times faster circulation!!!

PLEASE PEOPLE - FOCUS ON THIS!!!




If you want to deliver something to your muscles WHEN DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST TIME?




Before training when only 15 % of the blood is in the muscle?
After the training when blood is leaving your muscles...or MAYBE (???)

DURING THE TRAINING - when up to 80% of the BLOOD is...where...???

Oh - IN EXACT MUSCLE YOU ARE TRYING TO BUILD and doing all your heavy lifting for...day after day, week after week...month after month...should i even say - year after year...or for some even decade after decade - with MEDIOCRE results at best!

So, don't you think that IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY ACCOMPLISH when you have 80% of your blood in exact muscles you are trying to build and YOU ACT UPON IT - you would possibly IMPROVE like never before (or like all the athletes I am preparing who keep shocking the world with FAST IMPROVEMENTS)?

If you PREPARE your blood correctly (sound diet plan in general + 30 minutes BEFORE training knowing WHICH NUTRIENTS TO TAKE that will in synergy with YOUR WORKOUT DRINK insure that YOUR BLOOD IS ANABOLIC/ANTI-CATABOLIC BOMB - filled with maximal amount of anabolic and anti-catabolic nutrients as well as TIMELY RELEASED anabolic and anti-catabolic hormones...What do you think WILL HAPPEN?

Especially IF YOU TRAIN in this GIANT SETS FASHION where you fly from one exercise to the next, changing numerous training variables, performing mixture of lifts, using various grips, angles, tempo...repetition protocols, speeds...etc?

Well, you guessed it - YOU GET MR. OLYMPIA IN A MAKING...

I will only say this once: DON'T SEND EMPTY BLOOD TO YOUR MUSCLES AT WORK...YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME!!!

Would you want to send FED-EX, Airmail envelope to someone as the best and fastest way of 'sending' the envelope?

Well, PLEASE - do not send EMPTY ENVELOPE - you are paying HIGH PRICE for: NOTHING!!!

Make sure you stuff the envelope...and at the same time understand that IF YOU ARE SENDING EMPTY BLOOD to the muscle (your best friend who is anxiously awaiting to OPEN your gift envelope) - you are doing the same thing!

For "stuffing" your muscle envelope go to:

www.koloseum.com


For special (30%) discount - type this code: SMNR


welcome to intro physiology, did you discover something? science has known about this for years.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 16, 2007, 01:01:37 PM
haha   
accomplishment  :)
listen...I don't know who you are but the guy in the pic is ionut iana...a romanian bodybuilder...nice trying to pass as someone else here  ;) ..you're busted ...iana cannot type like u do in english...plus i'll ask u 2-3 questions you wouldn't be able to answer unless u were him ;)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 16, 2007, 01:02:21 PM
listen...I don't know who you are but the guy in the pic is ionut iana...a romanian bodybuilder...nice trying to pass as someone else here  ;) ..you're busted ...iana cannot type like u do in english...plus i'll ask u 2-3 questions you wouldn't be able to answer unless u were him ;)

HAHAHA OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 16, 2007, 01:06:12 PM
listen...I don't know who you are but the guy in the pic is ionut iana...a romanian bodybuilder...nice trying to pass as someone else here  ;) ..you're busted ...iana cannot type like u do in english...plus i'll ask u 2-3 questions you wouldn't be able to answer unless u were him ;)
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA, as i said before   
keep trying   ::)
All of you are so dellusional its ridiculous to say the least
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 16, 2007, 01:08:19 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA, as i said before   
keep trying   ::)
All of you are so dellusional its ridiculous to say the least

You got outed, dipshit.  At least man up to it, delete your account and start again. ;)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 16, 2007, 01:11:19 PM
You got outed, dipshit.  At least man up to it, delete your account and start again. ;)
Pathetic attempts, just like your e-mail...
Poor little boy
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 16, 2007, 01:12:40 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA, as i said before   
keep trying   ::)
All of you are so dellusional its ridiculous to say the least
ai supt-o in direct ;) ...by the way...ask yourself how do I have pics of  " you " that u never posted ? :D...







..oh...u forgot one thing...I'm a romanian bodybuilder just like iana ...I even know the gym he trains at....sorry..but u shoud just admit it.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 16, 2007, 01:13:48 PM
I still can't get over a 19 year old juicing to the gills just to be a "big" guy.  Epic eurotrash and having no patience to make gains naturally ::)

Is he Sevastese's protégé? Can we expect to be littered with gay pictures anytime soon?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 16, 2007, 01:14:12 PM
ai supt-o in direct ;) ...by the way...ask yourself how do I have pics of  " you " that u never posted ? :D
ahahahahahahhahaha
i posted that big boy - thats how   ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 16, 2007, 01:15:09 PM
Is he Sevastese's protégé? Can we expect to be littered with gay pictures anytime soon?

I don't know, but sevastase just owned the shit out of this punk noob "bron" ;D
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 16, 2007, 01:15:58 PM
ahahahahahahhahaha
i posted that big boy - thats how   ::)
say it right now : what's the name of the gym in most of the pics you posted ? see...
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 16, 2007, 01:17:30 PM
Is he Sevastese's protégé? Can we expect to be littered with gay pictures anytime soon?
you don't get it do you ?...the pics he posted belong to a romanian bodybuilder and strongman....Ionut Iana....google the name and you'll see....he does a lot of g4p by the way...
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 16, 2007, 01:18:04 PM
say it right now : what's the name of the gym in most of the pics you posted ? see...
sav just owned himself, the pic was posted in this actual thread on 2 page  ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 16, 2007, 01:18:35 PM
you don't get it do you ?...the pics he posted belong to a romanian bodybuilder and strongman....Ionut Iana....google the name and you'll see....he does a lot of g4p by the way...

Well done, sev.  This is a devastating owning of a noob who is obviously a tiny, skinny geek, otherwise he wouldn't post pics of someone else and pass them off as himself. ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 16, 2007, 01:18:46 PM
you don't get it do you ?...the pics he posted belong to a romanian bodybuilder and strongman....Ionut Iana....google the name and you'll see....he does a lot of g4p by the way...
sure big boy   ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 16, 2007, 01:18:54 PM
ahahahahahahhahaha
i posted that big boy - thats how   ::)

Epic pretending to someone else at 19  ::)

Delete your accont, son.

Quote
you don't get it do you ?...the pics he posted belong to a romanian bodybuilder and strongman....Ionut Iana....google the name and you'll see....he does a lot of g4p by the way...

hahaha, you exposed the bastard. Good work.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 16, 2007, 01:19:27 PM
sav just owned himself, the pic was posted in this actual thread on 2 page  ::)

Answer his questions "big boy"  While you're at it, why don't you answer a few questions in the Romanian language?  Shouldn't be a problem for you if you're the real deal. ;)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 16, 2007, 01:21:15 PM
sure big boy   ::)
here...I'll clear it for everyone else..u got 200 pages with the real Iana...;) http://www.topculturism.ro/discutii/viewtopic.php?t=414&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 16, 2007, 01:21:54 PM
I actually thought it was your gimmick but good post.  This guy owned himself by being a lame gimmick and by searching for Euro G4P BBers.
ahahahahhahahahahha   keep 'em coming boys
You are as delusional as the day is long
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 16, 2007, 01:22:47 PM
here...I'll clear it for everyone else..u got 200 pages with the real Iana...;) http://www.topculturism.ro/discutii/viewtopic.php?t=414&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

HAHAHAHA OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D

Watch this noob "bron" try to keep up the act even though "he" has been caught red-handed and exposed for being a weak skinny pussy who has to pass off other people's pics as himself.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 16, 2007, 01:24:40 PM
HAHAHAHA OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D

Watch this noob "bron" try to keep up the act even though "he" has been caught red-handed and exposed for being a weak skinny pussy who has to pass off other people's pics as himself.
yeah exposed   ::) ::) ::)
keep trying big boy
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 16, 2007, 01:31:04 PM
yeah exposed   ::) ::) ::)
keep trying big boy
Cu cine ai fost in LA? ( cu cine ai concurat impreuna ? )
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bron_in_88 on December 16, 2007, 01:32:02 PM
Cu cine ai fost in LA? ( cu cine ai concurat impreuna ? )
a zasto rumunski da pisem   ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 16, 2007, 01:33:37 PM
a zasto rumunski da pisem   ::) ::) ::)
that's what I thought..you do not even understand romanian.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 16, 2007, 01:34:05 PM
that's what I thought..you do not even understand romanian.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well done, Sev.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: G o a t b o y on December 16, 2007, 01:38:02 PM
Oh good.....  another Snake OilTM thread!  :D
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: kyomu on December 16, 2007, 01:51:42 PM
the only amino science out there would be a combination of certain aminos while the stomach is empty of all previous foods and no insulin present to have a higher growth hormone signaling. but as soon as you add a different amino it fucks it all up, even to try something like that is silly as shit because you need calories to grow more than anything, not some majic combo. I beleive the colgan institute of sports nutrition did these gh experiemtns from amino acid combinations

its all complete bullshit yet milos is nothing more than an old street hustler making anything kind of shitty money he can by selling lies
Mmmmm. Thats always i am thinking when it comes to this milos drink thing.

So Milos athletes train with this drink with their stomach completely empty?
Not only during training,but Also before training right?
That means you shoud stay without meal really really  long time......
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: G o a t b o y on December 16, 2007, 02:07:25 PM
Hey Milos!  Is it true the IFBB is thinking of actually enforcing its steroid ban, since now that we have Snake OilTM available there's no more need to use steroids?  :D
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Marty Champions on December 16, 2007, 02:18:18 PM
Id like to start by saying ...DADDYWADDY SHUT THE F*K UP... you are anoying and are poluting a good subject with your presence...go be a parasite on some other thread....you look "ok" and i mean that..nothing more....you dont know shit, and you are fkkn ugly

ok that said.....

MILOS, ID LIKE TO HEAR YOUR OPINION ON ACTIVE RECOVERY
Since you state that nutrient rich blood flow is optimal for muscle growth when blood flow is maximal to the muscles, do you incorporate a few light, high rep sets for the same muscle group just trained the following day?  I would assume this would have to be an easily/quickly digested and specific nutrient enriched meal such as egg whites and a fast carb source with the possible addition or even replacement with a protein shake with your supplements.

hahah you are a retard

you ask milos what his opinion on "ACTIVE RECOVERY"

well you dumbass you answerd your own question

you stay active to recover faster
 

you are ultra dumb
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Marty Champions on December 16, 2007, 02:22:17 PM
Mmmmm. Thats always i am thinking when it comes to this milos drink thing.

So Milos athletes train with this drink with their stomach completely empty?
Not only during training,but Also before training right?
That means you shoud stay without meal really really  long time......

yes milos is full of shit there will always be food in the gut remaining around 5 hours at a time and if meat is in the gut it stays there all day to be broken down

milos and his followers look like shit and are selling candycorn basically
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: wes on December 16, 2007, 02:28:31 PM
if you want something cheap and effective before you go to the gym simply eat couple bags of CANDYCORN if will give you that extra pump in the gym
CANDYCORN......................LMFAO  :)

WTF?? LOL
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: webcake on December 16, 2007, 04:08:07 PM
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well done, Sev.

HAHAHA, damn i missed all this.


Hahaha Bron got fuckin owned!!

Great job Sev.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 16, 2007, 04:31:13 PM
HAHAHAHAHAA bron_in_88!!!! You've been busted fag, delete you account!!!
hahahahahaa 19yrs old, 22" arms, 260 lbs, hahahahhhaaaaa queer!
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 16, 2007, 04:32:32 PM
HAHAHAHAHAA bron_in_88!!!! You've been busted fag, delete you account!!!
hahahahahaa 19yrs old, 22" arms, 260 lbs, hahahahhhaaaaa queer!
maybe "bron in88" is Trey Brewer, Chaos.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 16, 2007, 04:35:37 PM
hahah you are a retard

you ask milos what his opinion on "ACTIVE RECOVERY"

well you dumbass you answerd your own question

you stay active to recover faster
 

you are ultra dumb
i agree with you here DW, plus the thing Milos can't seem to grasp is that there are always aminos, carbs and fats in your blood stream regardless of whether you've eaten for the hour before your workout, the funny thing is that he makes it sound as if an hour after you eat a meal ALL of the nutrients have been used and excreted, gimme a fucckin' break. ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 16, 2007, 04:42:42 PM
maybe "bron in88" is Trey Brewer, Chaos.
Did you get a look at his pics?  I goggled the name Sevastaststae came up with and found some disgusting G4P stuuf with this "guy"
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Marty Champions on December 16, 2007, 04:43:47 PM
i agree with you here DW, plus the thing Milos can't seem to grasp is that there are always aminos, carbs and fats in your blood stream regardless of whether you've eaten for the hour before your workout, the funny thing is that he makes it sound as if an hour after you eat a meal ALL of the nutrients have been used and excreted, gimme a fucckin' break. ::)
milos will burn in hell
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 16, 2007, 04:44:23 PM
Did you get a look at his pics?  I goggled the name Sevastaststae came up with and found some disgusting G4P stuuf with this "guy"
hahahaa, those eastern european "men" have quite the appetite for penis do they not?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: chaos on December 16, 2007, 04:49:16 PM
hahahaa, those eastern european "men" have quite the appetite for penis do they not?
I had to wash my eyes in rubbing alcohol to get the images out. :(
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 16, 2007, 04:50:37 PM
I had to wash my eyes in rubbing alcohol to get the images out. :(
hahahhaa, that's the exact thing sementaste had to do only he had to do it to his ass.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: sgt. d on December 16, 2007, 08:33:00 PM
Im afraid Milos supplements will make me vomit :-\
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: sgt. d on December 16, 2007, 08:36:02 PM
I imagine if you can swallow all the cum you do, a few Koloseum shakes should be okay.

Are you suggesting that Milos shakes has cum in it? :-X
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: sgt. d on December 16, 2007, 08:40:11 PM
I'm saying that since you swallow more loads than Jenna Jameson and Kobe Tai together that you could handle a shake from 2girls1cup.

loads? ???

What is that?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 16, 2007, 09:17:34 PM
Milos, why not combine the pre- and peri-drinks in one shake? From what I see the formulas are nearly identical so no problem combining the ingredients. This would cut costs and would be easier to mass market. Drink half before and half during training.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: rocket on December 16, 2007, 09:20:50 PM
Milos, why not combine the pre- and peri-drinks in one shake? From what I see the formulas are nearly identical so no problem combining the ingredients. This would cut costs and would be easier to mass market. Drink half before and half during training.

He's in the business of advocating micromanagement, I don't think he'll be willing to simplify things.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 16, 2007, 09:31:12 PM
He's in the business of advocating micromanagement, I don't think he'll be willing to simplify things.
Yeah probably. This is a cost prohibitive product and a lot of the cost is from bottling it. He should just combine 1+2 and then recommend his regular protein powder for post workout.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 17, 2007, 12:22:46 AM
Yeah probably. This is a cost prohibitive product and a lot of the cost is from bottling it. He should just combine 1+2 and then recommend his regular protein powder for post workout.

So let me see - take 4 scoops of combined or 2 scoops of each if you do not combine...Hmmmmm, your math works perfectly - GREAT SAVINGS INDEED.

Yes, my PRE and DURING workout drinks are quite similar...OFF COURSE - however there is distinctive difference in few anabolic and anti-catabolic regulations and I pushed EVERYTHING to absolute limit...
Additional GRAM of any amino acids would not change a thing...a single gram less - will...

My formula is by my calculations, research and YEARS of experience THE MOST ANABOLIC and ANTI CATABOLIC formula on the market today...

As I don't have just enough cash to prove it in the study (yet) - I'll simply wait until some MEGA company tries to COMPARE my supps to theirs and than maybe (just maybe?) few of you "loudmouth" experts with combined IQ equal to a handicapped female teenage mutant gorilla "in heat" will change your mind...(but than again how can you change something that you don't have...Hmmmmm, never mind).

And Van-B...I am not talking about you...You actually do make some sense every so often (I don't have a time to read all the posts...but I do read some...and you have a lot of good things to say...So, I encourage you to THINK about what I am saying...Think...answers will come).

To my "gorilla" fans - just take: MILK...it does a body GOOD...


Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 17, 2007, 12:27:46 AM
welcome to intro physiology, did you discover something? science has known about this for years.

Can you show me a single SCIENTIFIC ARTICLE stating the same?

A single one would do it...
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 17, 2007, 12:30:32 AM
milos maybe you should stop wasting time scamming people and tell them to by cheap cereal instead and redeem your washed up juicing lame ass (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=154295.0;attach=176583;image)

People - by cheap cereal instead...(pause for 3 seconds and than continue reading): I want to redeem my washed up juicing lame ass!
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: CoolDuck on December 17, 2007, 12:32:04 AM


If you want to deliver something to your muscles WHEN DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST TIME?


Before training when only 15 % of the blood is in the muscle?
After the training when blood is leaving your muscles...or MAYBE (???)

This is pseudoscience. Kinda reminds me of the late Mike Mentzer with his pseudoscientific HIT gospel. While there is evidence of a specific effect of supplement timing, the blood flow factor is probably only indirectly related to that.

CD
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 17, 2007, 12:44:47 AM
So let me see - take 4 scoops of combined or 2 scoops of each if you do not combine...Hmmmmm, your math works perfectly - GREAT SAVINGS INDEED.
I am not in the supplement industry but from what I've read a major expense in making supplements is the bottling and labeling of the product. Correct me if I'm wrong. I know with some supplements the bottling, labeling, capping, filling, etc, costs more than the raw material itself. With one jug you only mix the powder and fill a jug only once. That's why I suggested it, since this is a very expensive product (comparatively and considering many peoples budgets) and it might be easier for you to market and sell if it were a bit cheaper.

Some of these bulk protein companies sell the powders in plastic bags without a label. Why? the answer is obvious.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: LatsMcGee on December 17, 2007, 01:20:13 AM
Hey Milos,  currently I take 2 scoops of gatorade,  a teaspoon of creatine mono, and 20 amino tabs during my workouts.  What am I not getting from that that I would get from your drink.  Thanks.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: rocket on December 17, 2007, 01:38:58 AM
Hey Milos,  currently I take 2 scoops of gatorade,  a teaspoon of creatine mono, and 20 amino tabs during my workouts.  What am I not getting from that that I would get from your drink.  Thanks.

Empty wallet and shit eating grin ;D
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: KillerMonk on December 17, 2007, 01:57:57 AM
I beleive in your Supplements Milos but why are they so fucking exspensive, i could buy a bottle of Anadrol and Dianabol for the same price.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: MAXX on December 17, 2007, 04:03:04 AM
hyper what??

did you make up that word yourself milos ?  ;D
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: LatsMcGee on December 18, 2007, 03:14:28 AM
Hey Milos,  currently I take 2 scoops of gatorade,  a teaspoon of creatine mono, and 20 amino tabs during my workouts.  What am I not getting from that that I would get from your drink.  Thanks.

Bump for answers.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: DK II on December 18, 2007, 06:14:54 AM
Mmmmm. Thats always i am thinking when it comes to this milos drink thing.

So Milos athletes train with this drink with their stomach completely empty?
Not only during training,but Also before training right?
That means you shoud stay without meal really really  long time......

No problem.

I get up in the morning, drown a shake and go training! No Kidding.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 18, 2007, 06:16:28 AM
No problem.

I get up in the morning, drown a shake and go training! No Kidding.
hahahahahaa, i can't even imagine the huge poundages and brutal intensity you're putting out in the gym with only a shake inside you. ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: DK II on December 18, 2007, 06:23:28 AM
hahahahahaa, i can't even imagine the huge poundages and brutal intensity you're putting out in the gym with only a shake inside you. ::)

It works great, you need Milos shake to provide the necessary micronutrients!

Try it yourself, you will lose a lot f fat as well.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 18, 2007, 06:26:02 AM
It works great, you need Milos shake to provide the necessary micronutrients!

Try it yourself, you will lose a lot f fat as well.
post a picture and if i'm impressed with your physique i'll do it.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: DK II on December 18, 2007, 06:30:10 AM
post a picture and if i'm impressed with your physique i'll do it.

    ;D


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Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 18, 2007, 06:31:44 AM
    ;D


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hahahahaa, exactly what i thought. :D
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: DK II on December 18, 2007, 06:32:55 AM
hahahahaa, exactly what i thought. :D

You'll see my pics soon enough, stud.  8)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 18, 2007, 06:34:59 AM
You'll see my pics soon enough, stud.  8)
that's what you said 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 month ago as well. ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: DK II on December 18, 2007, 06:36:51 AM
that's what you said 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 month ago as well. ::)

And it's probably what i'll say the next 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 months as well.  :-*

You can come over to germany and meet me though, since you don't have a camera i'm not afraid you will make any pics.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Necrosis on December 24, 2007, 08:14:02 PM
Can you show me a single SCIENTIFIC ARTICLE stating the same?

A single one would do it...

stating what? hyperemia, or reactive hyperemia? its a none fact, its in all physiology books. reactive hyperemia occurs after an occlusion in which blood flow and metabolic rate increase. what are you stating exactly? that your products cause hyperemia, because they dont, but working out does. but i would agree with many of your nutrients save glutamine which is proven to be ineffective, with no anabolic or catabolic processes when consumed orally.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Necrosis on December 24, 2007, 08:20:45 PM
i would also state that you know your shit no doubt, and im not against you or any shit like that. im just saying post your ingredients and ill have a look and see what is so special.


i have a question for you if you drink a protein shake what amino acids would be most abundent in the bloodstream after hepatic circulation? simple question.


if you think you have something special you need to provide proof, not us. your the one claiming things, post the articles or studies showing that increased blood flow and ingestion of these ingredients at that time cause anabolism or prevent catabolism. you see if your just peddling creatine, leucine or the bcaa's and glutamine and eletrolytes then thats nothing special.

i could mimick your supp with a whey protein shake, isolate, and some monohydrate and celtic sea salt and a bannana, nothing earth shattering. im trying to understand why YOUR ingredients are particularly good. any evidence?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Matt C on December 24, 2007, 08:26:27 PM
Hi Milos :D

Yours Truley Truly,

The Coach

Fixed.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: KillerMonk on December 24, 2007, 09:25:51 PM
So let me see - take 4 scoops of combined or 2 scoops of each if you do not combine...Hmmmmm, your math works perfectly - GREAT SAVINGS INDEED.

Yes, my PRE and DURING workout drinks are quite similar...OFF COURSE - however there is distinctive difference in few anabolic and anti-catabolic regulations and I pushed EVERYTHING to absolute limit...
Additional GRAM of any amino acids would not change a thing...a single gram less - will...

My formula is by my calculations, research and YEARS of experience THE MOST ANABOLIC and ANTI CATABOLIC formula on the market today...

As I don't have just enough cash to prove it in the study (yet) - I'll simply wait until some MEGA company tries to COMPARE my supps to theirs and than maybe (just maybe?) few of you "loudmouth" experts with combined IQ equal to a handicapped female teenage mutant gorilla "in heat" will change your mind...(but than again how can you change something that you don't have...Hmmmmm, never mind).

And Van-B...I am not talking about you...You actually do make some sense every so often (I don't have a time to read all the posts...but I do read some...and you have a lot of good things to say...So, I encourage you to THINK about what I am saying...Think...answers will come).

To my "gorilla" fans - just take: MILK...it does a body GOOD...



Gorrillas are very intellegent.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Audioslave on December 24, 2007, 11:29:51 PM
Hey Milos,

Start accepting PayPal on your site, would ya?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: joshk on December 25, 2007, 01:17:04 AM
Milos, I decided to give your products a try, for you seem genuinely interested in helping people and very knowledgable in workout nutrition and pharmacology. 

Anyway, with the 30% discount you generally offered, I was able to save more than $40 on two (xxplode and reload) products. Good deal!

By the way, Milos, your website incorrectly lists the CA sales tax as 7.75%; it is currently 8.25%. You might want to change it. FTB would not like that...

I will be incorporating your giant-set routines along with these supplements. I will keep you posted on the progress.

Again, thanks and Merry Christmas!




Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: GetItOnNY on December 25, 2007, 10:41:02 AM
Van to answer your question, the bottle, for a product runs about 30 cents for 275cc, bottles and a protein bottle about 60 cents a pop.The lids are 20cents, and the scoopers are 5 cents.Then the label runs anywhere from 5 cents,to 20 cents depending on how many colors you use, how big the label is, and how many labels you print.Sothe materials to make a bottle of protein is around $1.25, -$1.75, after shipping costs.
Now raw materials can get expensive if they are real.Kre-Alkalyn is $50, per kilo, L-Arginine is $27 per kilo, AAKG $30 per kilo,L-Glutamine is $14 per kilo,Creatine monohydrate $5 per kilo, Creatine Ethyl Ester $8 per kilo,Leucine $28 per kilo, Valine $23 per kilo,Iso-Leucine $24 per kilo,L-Norvaline $275 per kilo,Whey Protein Isolate $6 per lb, Whey protein concentrate 80% $4.50 per lb
These prices are if you but 1000 + kilos

Milos, why doesnt your webiste have a listing of the ingredients of the products you are selling? Do they contain Waxy Maze?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: bodybuildermdpitt on December 25, 2007, 03:04:52 PM
I am sorry Milos, I think you are a good guy, but this is just a bunch of crap...

"Average male has 5 liters of blood (females have about 4)...At rest that blood is distributed throughout the body and follows certain path - normally supplying the body with physiological order of importance (what is needed the most is being on higher list of physiological priorities)...and simply organs and other tissues take preference over the skeletal muscle AT REST..."

The above is true

"So, when body is NOT physical (when we are resting) about 12-18% of total blood goes to our muscles and the rest is distributed ELSEWHERE (as I said - according to physiological importance at that moment)...
Also, note that this 5 liters of blood are circulating quite slowly..."

Also true

"Well, when we start being more physically active...we start "moving" and using our "motors" ( read: MUSCLES) - our hearts start pumping a bit faster and as a result - blood start circulating that much faster and somewhat different...No longer certain organs, systems or tissues prevail in "need for blood" internal physiological war body is having on a daily bases..."

There is no war, the brain parenchyma will always recieve precedent for blood, reguardless of how much you exercise.

"Now body faces extreme shock - WEIGHT RESISTANCE TRAINING and should I say: INTENSE KIND of weight training only BODYBUILDING could create...and as a result OUR MUSCLES start winning the war and getting high on the list of "physiological importance for blood" list..."

Absoultely not. The reason you feel a "pump" is that your muscles are contracting the veins, which themselves do not have a smooth muscle layer, there is less blood pooling in the veins, as a result, you feel the pump, since there is more continuous flow. This physiological importance does not change, this is a huge myth. Prove me otherwise.

"More and more blood follow the path to OUR MUSCLES!! Each muscle contraction, every rep, every set and every exercise increases the need for blood...Higher the intensity - higher the blood flow...
NEW #1 - PHYSIOLOGICAL IMPORTANCE winer is certainly SKELETAL MUSCLE AT WORK and soon we have MAJOR BLOOD FLOW into the area of our body which is engaged the most = OUR MUSCLES!!!"

This is assuming that increased blood flow will cause the torn actin and myosin fibers to heal quicker and expand. This is actually FALSE. If you look at spinal cord injury victims and there rehabilitation, they use Occulsion Training, which is basically physically stopping blood flow to a group of muscles (through a BP cuff) and then working the muscle. Actually restricting blood flow during training, will upregulate receptors, which make them much more receptive to growth. Go to pub med and read about this.

"Well, as science has discovered: HYPEREMIA (INCREASED BLOOD FLOW TO THE PART OF THE BODY...in this instance OUR MUSCLES) reaches incredible 80% blood flow to the muscle with up to 20 times faster circulation!!!

PLEASE PEOPLE - FOCUS ON THIS!!!




If you want to deliver something to your muscles WHEN DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST TIME?




Before training when only 15 % of the blood is in the muscle?
After the training when blood is leaving your muscles...or MAYBE (???)

DURING THE TRAINING - when up to 80% of the BLOOD is...where...???

Oh - IN EXACT MUSCLE YOU ARE TRYING TO BUILD and doing all your heavy lifting for...day after day, week after week...month after month...should i even say - year after year...or for some even decade after decade - with MEDIOCRE results at best!

So, don't you think that IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY ACCOMPLISH when you have 80% of your blood in exact muscles you are trying to build and YOU ACT UPON IT - you would possibly IMPROVE like never before (or like all the athletes I am preparing who keep shocking the world with FAST IMPROVEMENTS)?

If you PREPARE your blood correctly (sound diet plan in general + 30 minutes BEFORE training knowing WHICH NUTRIENTS TO TAKE that will in synergy with YOUR WORKOUT DRINK insure that YOUR BLOOD IS ANABOLIC/ANTI-CATABOLIC BOMB - filled with maximal amount of anabolic and anti-catabolic nutrients as well as TIMELY RELEASED anabolic and anti-catabolic hormones...What do you think WILL HAPPEN?

Especially IF YOU TRAIN in this GIANT SETS FASHION where you fly from one exercise to the next, changing numerous training variables, performing mixture of lifts, using various grips, angles, tempo...repetition protocols, speeds...etc?

Well, you guessed it - YOU GET MR. OLYMPIA IN A MAKING...

I will only say this once: DON'T SEND EMPTY BLOOD TO YOUR MUSCLES AT WORK...YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME!!!

Would you want to send FED-EX, Airmail envelope to someone as the best and fastest way of 'sending' the envelope?

Well, PLEASE - do not send EMPTY ENVELOPE - you are paying HIGH PRICE for: NOTHING!!!

Make sure you stuff the envelope...and at the same time understand that IF YOU ARE SENDING EMPTY BLOOD to the muscle (your best friend who is anxiously awaiting to OPEN your gift envelope) - you are doing the same thing!

For "stuffing" your muscle envelope go to:

www.koloseum.com"

The above is just a bunch of muckracking. On a serious note, Milos what article did you read to come up with this, and also, did you radiotype blood to measure its flow to get the exact percentages? I really doubt that you did... I am surprised more of these supplement companies don't have lawsuits against them.

cheers,

bodybuildermdpitt
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: joelocal on December 25, 2007, 03:11:55 PM

By the way, Milos, your website incorrectly lists the CA sales tax as 7.75%; it is currently 8.25%. You might want to change it. FTB would not like that...



Milos' gym in in Orange County, he is correct on the sales tax. LA sales tax is 8.25%.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: muscularny on December 25, 2007, 04:30:46 PM
slin pre training is way more effective than post, humlog pref
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: no one on December 25, 2007, 08:00:25 PM
slin pre training is way more effective than post, humlog pref

that's ignorant.

and coming from someone who obviously has never used it at either time.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 25, 2007, 11:53:32 PM
Van to answer your question, the bottle, for a product runs about 30 cents for 275cc, bottles and a protein bottle about 60 cents a pop.The lids are 20cents, and the scoopers are 5 cents.Then the label runs anywhere from 5 cents,to 20 cents depending on how many colors you use, how big the label is, and how many labels you print.Sothe materials to make a bottle of protein is around $1.25, -$1.75, after shipping costs.
 
OK, that's the material but what about the mixing/capping/filling costs by the contract manufacturer? I'm sure it depends on how big of a run you do but approximately?

Milos is probably looking for distributors to pick up the product and then it will be much cheaper through them.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 26, 2007, 12:01:05 AM


This is assuming that increased blood flow will cause the torn actin and myosin fibers to heal quicker and expand. This is actually FALSE. If you look at spinal cord injury victims and there rehabilitation, they use Occulsion Training, which is basically physically stopping blood flow to a group of muscles (through a BP cuff) and then working the muscle. Actually restricting blood flow during training, will upregulate receptors, which make them much more receptive to growth. Go to pub med and read about this.
Milos has mentioned that he tried the Japanese "Kaatsu" training, which is occlusion training. Didn't care for it. But that's a VERY good point you are making.

Milos is making a ton of assumptions with his theory. I would have no problem with it if he just said this is a theory of his and that he has found that these feeding patterns have worked for him. But he is so cock-sure and tries to make anyone who questions it look like an idiot who doesn't THINK!  :D
He says by not taking these aminos you are wasting your time in the gym. How come Ronnie and Dorian and etc grew to such proportions then, at such a rate?

There are some studies on pubmed on pre-workout amino/carb feedings and how they increase protein synthesis acutely but this doesn't necessarily mean the net protein gain is bigger over time.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: muscularny on December 26, 2007, 01:21:21 AM
that's ignorant.

and coming from someone who obviously has never used it at either time.

no you obviously havent used it

pre workout humlog 5iu and doing some serious real food protein and real food carb intake is the way to go
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: no one on December 26, 2007, 11:59:49 AM
no you obviously havent used it

pre workout humlog 5iu and doing some serious real food protein and real food carb intake is the way to go

i have forgotten more about insulin use than you will ever know.

you are someone who regurgitates what he reads and has no real world experience with what he is talking about.

that's ok though- it puts you in good company with other 98% of the people who post on this board.

show me why using insulin is better pre is so much better than than post. you can't. nobody can say without a single doubt pre is better than post.

there is a benefit to using it at both times, but to say one is better than the other is ignorant.

furthermore- why 5 i.u? is that the magic amount > why not 10? 8? 15?

'real food'? why not liquid?

your talking about something you know nothing about.

sorry to break it to you.





Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Audioslave on December 26, 2007, 02:17:36 PM

He says by not taking these aminos you are wasting your time in the gym. How come Ronnie and Dorian and etc grew to such proportions then, at such a rate?


Well, sir, I think it's time we discussed some truths about bodybuilding...
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: GetItOnNY on December 26, 2007, 04:43:14 PM
Van ,most manufactures shoot to make 30% profit in manufacturing is the norm.However with the price of protein constantly going up, its hard to get 30% profit on protein.If its real protein not junk.Plus you have to compete and bid on jobs against other manufactures so when its all said and done sometimes you only make 10% profit, but the PO( purchase order ) may be $50,000 -$500,000, or even more.What I do is try to make a clients whole line of supplements, this way I may make only 10% on the protein ,but make 50% on the fat burners, creatine, or what ever else they may need.

Its all a numbers game ,sometimes you might even just break even one  product just to get a big account, so you can make a there whole line of supplements.This way it keeps your employees busy, increases your buying power so you get a better price on raw materials.Then you build a good relationship with the big account, so now they come to you for all of there products.

Most of the time the real money makers for manufatures is Fat burners, hormones, Creatine product, and L-glutamine- amino acid products.THERE IS NO MONEY IN PROTEIN, IF THE PROTEIN IS WORTH A DAM!!!!!!.The customer usually grinds you down on price, and there are alot of other manufactures who will always do a run cheaper then you.

The problem is when a company grinds down a manufacturer on price, guess what, the manufacture starts cutting corners just to make a profit. I do manufacture protein for about 16 companies right now, but my price is my price.I just tell them you get what you pay for .On fat burners I manufacture for about 41 diffrent companies, alot of them overseas.
There are alot of small companies, that do fat burners for palces like truck stops, and 7-11" s and they sell a shit load of fatburners -caffiene pills.
Some of these small companies no one has ever heard of find there "niche" or market, and they really do well.I make a supplement line for a company who only sells supplements to beauty salons, no shit. This guy does extremely well, he sells 5000-10,000 bottles of fatburners a month.Best of all his profit margins is $20 per bottle.I laughed at him when he wanted us to bid on a job for him until I got his second order for 10,000 bottles 30 days after his first 5000 bottle order.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: GetItOnNY on December 26, 2007, 10:23:09 PM
Milo's how can we see these the ingredients you put into these products? If they are so great, show us the ingredients, and what research did you do to back up these claims.Anybody can put BCAAS or Amino Acids in a product, and tell you its the best.What kind of delivery system are you using,? What are you using to dialate the muscle cell to take in more nutrients?
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: JediKnight on December 26, 2007, 10:49:45 PM
The guy is a top 10 Olympia contender, the proof is the pudding. Plus his "crew" are some really big dudes.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 26, 2007, 10:55:53 PM
Milo's how can we see these the ingredients you put into these products? If they are so great, show us the ingredients, and what research did you do to back up these claims.Anybody can put BCAAS or Amino Acids in a product, and tell you its the best.What kind of delivery system are you using,? What are you using to dialate the muscle cell to take in more nutrients?
http://koloseum.com//store/Default.asp

I don't like proprietary blends
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Necrosis on December 27, 2007, 08:34:05 AM
Milo's how can we see these the ingredients you put into these products? If they are so great, show us the ingredients, and what research did you do to back up these claims.Anybody can put BCAAS or Amino Acids in a product, and tell you its the best.What kind of delivery system are you using,? What are you using to dialate the muscle cell to take in more nutrients?

dilating the muscle cell doesnt even make sense, cell mediated transport has numerous enzymes, second messangers, g coupled enzymes, they just dont take up everything.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: GetItOnNY on December 27, 2007, 09:25:08 AM
The reason companies put Proprietory blends on a label is 1) so other companies cannot copy there formulations 2) because there product is cheap and they put alot of the less expensive ingredient, and less of the more expensive ingredient.BSN is the king of proprietory blends, that is why they are getting sued .
Using some propreitory blends is smart though because if you have a patened formulation, all some one has to do is change one molecule, or of ingredient, and they can get around your patend.
In this industry there is very few leaders only followers.If you make a great product and it sells well, within a month there will be 10 compies making a product just like yours
Example I was the first company to come out with a time released protein back in 1995.Designer Protein, AST aswell as many others laughed at the idea.Now every protein on the market including those 2 compnies I mentioned have time released protein.
They all thought Instantised and fast absorbing protein was they way to go then, but they were wrong!!!!!
God didnt make instantised chicken breasts, or instantised steak did he ??????????No
God created proteins in animals that would digest over time to fuel our muscles for several hours.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 27, 2007, 12:14:36 PM
Protein blends have been around a lot longer than since 1995. Just because you call it "time released" doesn't mean it was anything new. Same with Milos' supposedly new idea. EAA/BCAA/carb blends have been around forever. Same shit, different name/marketing.

Most of the time proprietary blend is used to dupe the public, making them think most of it is the expensive ingredients. Like with Nitrotech: label said "contains 96% whey isolate". Yeah, but how much? Could've been a few milligrams for all we know.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: GetItOnNY on December 28, 2007, 06:31:02 AM
Van yes protein blends have been longer then 1995, but none of them were truly time released.Some compnies just blend 3 or 4 diffrent proteins together and claim they are time released.The only was to truly time release a protein is to change its molecular structure.Usually this conmsists of agglomerating the protein so it has larger particles.The way to do this is after the Whey protein is finished, and has no impurities in it.Lactose and all the other crap that in sweet dairy Whey naturally has before being triple micro filtered.
To Agglomerating a protein you take the protein after its done and you spray it with Lecithin, by doing this is creates diffrent size protein particles.Because Lecithin is a emulsifier,when it is sprayed with a mist over protein.If you emulsify the protein correctly you can have up to seven diffrent types of paricles so they will break down over a period of 4-6 hours( with Milk Isolate, Beta Casseins, and Egg Protein.)
So in 1995 I did create the first"true " time released protein

Nitro Tec, probasbly doesnt have any 97% protein in it at all.The FDA allows a company to make a claim as long as what they are claiming is within 10% of what in the actual product.So they could just have 90% Whey protein in there product, and say its 96%.But if you do the math Nitro Tech is only about a 72% WPC. A 28.5 grams serving only has 20 grams of protein.So it may contain 97% WPI, but very little if they only have 20 grams of protein in a 28.5 scoop serving
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Audioslave on December 30, 2007, 10:31:18 PM
I think Milos is letting this thread die.
Title: Re: HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE - KNS SUPPLEMENTS
Post by: Necrosis on December 30, 2007, 11:44:24 PM
I think Milos is letting this thread die.

obviously when he is faced with knowledgeble people he hides, he hasnt adressed my or so of tthe other comments. its an obvious redflag for his supplements.