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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: bigbobs on December 18, 2007, 03:19:28 PM
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Looks like Milos just has a hard time keeping friends...
http://boards.flexonline.com/ib/ikonboard.cgi?s=f4fdd47693b05eae5b6832b03aa23d1c;act=ST;f=1;t=12525
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Milos and drama anywhere he goes. Has anyone stop to asked or tried to know for what reasons and popose is milos sending those old pictures taken since march 07, before the ARNOLD CLASSIC to be posted here, i mean on flelonline, when then he did refused to post all my training pictures he took then, while training in his gym, even when my sponsor who are the owner of this very broad did ask him to do that, but he poposely fufused. As if its not enough with his own broad, or his crossing over to getbig, now he wants to rule here as he always said. When ever Milos comes up with things like this, surely he is up to making some damang or some evil plan. Come to think about it, in the pictures posted to start with, Non of those guys are with him, officially and un official, I am myself cos i love to take my time and learn the right way, no matter what.
silvio - officially nothing with this man, fully trained by charle
glass.
jeol - officially no more with him, now with charle glass.
hida - un official, but so affaid to annonce his leaving, but
has since moved to NY, un happy with his situation
but still, he's been hold tie by milos.
lukewood-un official, but off from the sean at the moment
as most of the experiment did put him to sick bed
close to a show, and milos will always clean his
hands off and ask his name to be mentioned.
manolo-un official, station and train now alone in spain,
waiting to end his pro card, then milos will claim the
glory of doing heaven and earth. just like in my own
cares.
Only God knows whats his next plan, and i would not say anything if my picture did not appraed there. i would still want to see milos pick up and NPC new comer and train to became a pro, and not waiting at his gym, when the pro are sent to do a photo shoot, then he will used that chance to talk to then. If only he could live me alone and off from his life.
Thanks and God blessed.
S.S.
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Maybe so but Milo's is a very intelligent human being and Samuel will forever have that queer look to him...And is a dumb ass to boot...Faggy looking and dumb is no way to go thru this type of life...However blockhead does and ok job at so who knows...
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no offense, but i have no idea what this says.
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Yeah. Did Silvio write this?
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Yeah. Did Silvio write this?
Just click on the link. Sylvio and Milos both have profiles on that forum and go back and fourth
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his english isnt that good, i dont really know what is says either but im guessing he doesn't like milos anymore
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HAHAHA silvio is a joke god dammit, accusing milos of experimenting with people.
This is straight from silvio's webpage:
"At age 19 he made his first visit to Russia with his coach to learn more advanced training methods."
hahaha epic wordplay. I strongly believe he went to russia to learn more "advanced training methods" hahaha what is this bullshit, the guy went there to experiment with roids, epic liar.
"He would later return to study Aeronautical Engineering" "worked in Madrid as a bouncer at various bars and discos"
haha this is awesome, after "studying" aeronautical engineering, he joined the spanish weightlifting team and from that, he ended as a bouncer hahaha
Oh man silvio is an a w e s o m e loser
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It's just a coincidence that so many friends having falling-outs with Milos? ::)
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Never fufuse an offer of help from Milos
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OH man! Joel Stubbs is huge! Joel Stubbs kicks ass. His quads aren't looking that bad anymore. His legs from the side and back look good as well.
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HAHAHA silvio is a joke god dammit, accusing milos of experimenting with people.
This is straight from silvio's webpage:
"At age 19 he made his first visit to Russia with his coach to learn more advanced training methods."
hahaha epic wordplay. I strongly believe he went to russia to learn more "advanced training methods" hahaha what is this bullshit, the guy went there to experiment with roids, epic liar.
"He would later return to study Aeronautical Engineering" "worked in Madrid as a bouncer at various bars and discos"
haha this is awesome, after "studying" aeronautical engineering, he joined the spanish weightlifting team and from that, he ended as a bouncer hahaha
Oh man silvio is an a w e s o m e loser
You think maybe you could pry your lips off of Milos' nuts for 5 minutes??
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You think maybe you could pry your lips off of Milos' nuts for 5 minutes??
SUP JOELOCO HOW'S #6, STILL ENJOYING IT?
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SUP JOELOCO HOW'S #6, STILL ENJOYING IT?
YUP!
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YUP!
;D
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In case Milos missed this..........
"I have about a 90-95% retention rate with my clientel over the last 5 years......just saying" :)
;D
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In case Milos missed this..........
"I have about a 90-95% retention rate with my clientel over the last 5 years......just saying" :)
;D
Your "clients" can't afford Milos' fees?
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Macedonian fellas are not to be trusted.
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I can tell just from the drama that SILVIO is the dickhead in that battle. Typical bodybuilder crap not wanting to let anyone else "take the credit" instead of being a man and just saying "Thanks Milos for all your help."
And does anyone believe Silvio "left" Milos because of training techniques or disagreements over drug usage?? It was fairly obvious to everyone that Milos was being shitcanned by the IFBB, his trainees were being punished for Milos's outspokenness, and Silvio was being pressured to ditch Milos by everyone with an "insider's" viewpoint.
Block & I sat patiently at the Arnold on Saturday b/t prejudging and night finals waiting to get an interview with Milos while he sat there for 40 minutes explaining to a riveted Silvio how to prepare for the night show, what to eat, what to "do", and Silvio hung on every word coming out of Milos's mouth.
Afterword: When Milos finished, he refused our request for an interview.
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Your "clients" can't afford Milos' fees?
Most easily could. But then again, they are much smarter than that.
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Afterword: When Milos finished, he refused our request for an interview.
pwned.
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Most easily could. But then again, they are much smarter than that.
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::) If you were smarter than that, maybe you couls have had third. ;)
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Milos is a good man, and a legend and icon in IFBB. He does NOT deserve this shit.
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No one gives a shit anymore.
Good luck in getting 6th you old fuck.
LOL!!!!!!!!
That's pretty harsh, but very funny!
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::) If you were smarter than that, maybe you couls have had third. ;)
Maybe....but there's always next time........maybe...not. ..well.....
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"Silvio doesn't know the difference between protein and carbohydrates". I personally believe this one.
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Milos is a good man, and a legend and icon in IFBB. He does NOT deserve this shit.
I believe he is a good man, never said he wasn't and a good bodybuilder. But like I said, we have a difference of opinion and philosophy, personally, I think he some dangerous methods.
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Everyone knows Milos' guys make improvements like they never have in their pro careers.
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Milos is about MONEY unless your a personel freind, In saying that if i won the Lotto tommorow i would go to him for advice on Drugs not so much training.
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Everyone knows Milos' guys make improvements like they never have in their pro careers.
How come very few stick with him or follow his protocol when they leave?
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How come very few stick with him or follow his protocol when they leave?
As a personal trainer, why wouldn't you at least attempt his style of training, maybe you could incorperate some of his methods for your clients?
Drug philosophy aside, why wouldn't you?
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As a personal trainer, why wouldn't you at least attempt his style of training, maybe you could incorperate some of his methods for your clients?
Drug philosophy aside, why wouldn't you?
I never bashed his Giant (circuit) training with the exeption of saying 20 (he said up to 40) exercises for ONE bodypart is absolutely obserd and has no physiological basis for that protocol. Of course it's hard, for Christs sake you're killing one bodypart with 40 different isolated exercises when at the most 4-5 would do.
I don't know if Milos knows who you are, but if he doesn't, do you agree his training??
And even so, that type of training couldn't be done on a continues basis for very long.
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I never bashed his Giant (circuit) training with the exeption of saying 20 (he said up to 40) exercises for ONE bodypart is absolutely obserd and has no physiological basis for that protocol. Of course it's hard, for Christs sake you're killing one bodypart with 40 different isolated exercises when at the most 4-5 would do.
I don't know if Milos knows who you are, but if he doesn't, do you agree his training??
And even so, that type of training couldn't be done on a continues basis for very long.
Milos knows who I am by face in the gym, not by "chaos", I think ??? Don't know, really.
Anyways, I have tried Giant sets for about 3 months, it was different and I don't think my strength wavered. However, I enjoy a higher weight/lower rep scheme, I get bored easily, so 10 reps x 5-10 excersices= too many reps for me. I will be back on it again in Feb. for a few weeks at least, just to mix it up.
To be honest Joseph, I have been at Koloseum almost two years, in the time I think I have seen Milos do maybe four training sessions "normal" all other times have been giant sets.
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To be honest Joseph, I have been at Koloseum almost two years, in the time I think I have seen Milos do maybe four training sessions "normal" all other times have been giant sets.
But what about his clients, do they still use the same protocol? If I told you can do what we used to do more than 20 or so years ago and get the same results, would that intrest you?
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But what about his clients, do they still use the same protocol? If I told you can do what we used to do more than 20 or so years ago and get the same results, would that intrest you?
I probably do what you did 20 years ago.
And from the few "normal" clients I see at the gym, yes they try to keep the same protocol, when I say try I mean most people don't have the intestinal fortitude to complete a Milos giant set without some "urging". ;)
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Milos is about MONEY unless your a personel freind
Even if he is your personal friend, he is all about MONEY. Let's not forget he stole $2550 from HUGE NASSER!
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I probably do what you did 20 years ago.
And from the few "normal" clients I see at the gym, yes they try to keep the same protocol, when I say try I mean most people don't have the intestinal fortitude to complete a Milos giant set without some "urging". ;)
I understand Milos' training without urging is a bitch. But what I was referring to was the "hundreds" protocol but without going into too much detail (because I'm getting ready for bed) was 2-3 different exercises for the same bodypart trying to complete 100 reps with a giving weight, in short, if you complete 75 or more reps with that weight, you go up the next workout, complete less, you stay at that weight until you get to 75 or more. If you do 75 or more, you have about :60-:90 sec rest before you complete the remainder of the 25 or less.
Like Milos, the idea is to create hyperplasia in the muscle cells. Nowadays, doing that type of workout with certain "supplimentation" (I won't say because there are little eyes of kids on here) that can and will increase the hyperplasia along with that type of protocol. Again, we were doing this over 20 years ago, Milos just put his own spin on it.
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Did Silvio say this before or after he dry humped a hotel mattress?
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Did Silvio say this before or after he dry humped a hotel mattress?
That made me laugh way more than it should have ;D
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20 (he said up to 40) exercises for ONE bodypart is absolutely obserd and has no physiological basis for that protocol. .
So what exactly is the 'physiological basis' for
when at the most 4-5 would do
this approach then?
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So what exactly is the 'physiological basis' for
this approach then?
When done in "hundreds" protocol, same as "giant" (circuit) sets. Both equal hyperplasia, one just has a spin to it.
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Translated and all, it comes down to "Milos, give Nasser his $2,550, bitch!"
I think that's what Sylvio was trying to say.
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From Silvio Samuel's bio:
"At age 19 he made his first visit to Russia with his coach to learn more advanced training methods."
haha how many bodybuilders go to russia just to just learn "more advanced training methods" ?
Silvio is one of those epic liars, isnt he?
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yeah training is really rocket science ::)
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From Silvio Samuel's bio:
"At age 19 he made his first visit to Russia with his coach to learn more advanced training methods."
haha how many bodybuilders go to russia just to just learn "more advanced training methods" ?
Silvio is one of those epic liars, isnt he?
Dedicated ones.
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"He would later return to study Aeronautical Engineering" "worked in Madrid as a bouncer at various bars and discos"
haha this is awesome, after "studying" aeronautical engineering, he joined the spanish weightlifting team and from that, he ended as a bouncer hahaha
Oh man silvio is an a w e s o m e loser
Yeah. This is a really huge joke. ;D
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yeah training is really rocket science ::)
There have been alot of training methods that were brought to the US from Russia, Bulgaria and Germany.
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There have been alot of training methods that were brought to the US from Russia, Bulgaria and Germany.
Come on JOELOCO, are you saying you really believe herr SS's bullshit? Why dont he just claim he went there for the training methods and hardcore roids?
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Come on JOELOCO, are you saying you really believe herr SS's bullshit? Why dont he just claim he went there for the training methods and hardcore roids?
Why would I not believe him?
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Why would I not believe him?
You are a superstar trainer only comparable to milos and frank zane, so if you say so, must be then.
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yeah hes right swissballsquats are from russia too, bodybuilders are so improved after that.
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From Silvio Samuel's bio:
"At age 19 he made his first visit to Russia with his coach to learn more advanced drug abusing methods."
fixed
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You are a superstar trainer only comparable to milos and frank zane, so if you say so, must be then.
When training athletes, I surpass. They can stick to BBing.
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The reason SS`s visit to CCCP it was to learn how to cook chicken Kiev.
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Well, why not? Probably one of the reason's he went there, to train with others. I think Silvio lived in Spain, so the trip is not that far out, a few hours. Yes, he lives in Los Angeles now, but at the time, he was in Europe.
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Russians arnt really tearing up the bodybuilding world
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Russians arnt really tearing up the bodybuilding world
They are in strength training.
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I could beleive it, Sivio been around for a while. He used to be a model in Musclemag back in the 90's. He used to model clothes with Wesley Mohammed and Stacey Lynn (Boetto) and Trish Stratus. And isn't he Brazilian?
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the russians are turning out tremendous physiques.. we just dont see them here because most stay in the amatuer ranks and compete in various nabba show or ifbb world amatuer championships.. do some checking and you will see many that blow away our top amatuers..
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Sylvio was an Olympic style lifter who through injury missed out on competing at the 2000- Sydney games.. Why is it so hard to believe that he went to Russia to learn more about Olympic lifting?
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That's why Silvio looks a million times better than you ever will.
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I never bashed his Giant (circuit) training with the exeption of saying 20 (he said up to 40) exercises for ONE bodypart is absolutely obserd and has no physiological basis for that protocol. Of course it's hard, for Christs sake you're killing one bodypart with 40 different isolated exercises when at the most 4-5 would do.
I don't know if Milos knows who you are, but if he doesn't, do you agree his training??
And even so, that type of training couldn't be done on a continues basis for very long.
Serge Nubret has been doing workouts like this for about 40 years and judging by his recent pics he would destroy you JoeLoser.
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is it just me or does silvio sound like a little bitch????
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Serge Nubret has been doing workouts like this for about 40 years and judging by his recent pics he would destroy you JoeLoser.
Did you think that up all by yourself?
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Sylvio was an Olympic style lifter who through injury missed out on competing at the 2000- Sydney games.. Why is it so hard to believe that he went to Russia to learn more about Olympic lifting?
Because he was just 19? Typical kid trying to be big the easy way
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When done in "hundreds" protocol, same as "giant" (circuit) sets. Both equal hyperplasia, one just has a spin to it.
Why do you believe this? Hyperplasia has never been proven to occur in humans. Do you disagree? Some claim growth hormone causes hyperplasia in adults - not proven either.
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Why do you believe this? Hyperplasia has never been proven to occur in humans. Do you disagree? Some claim growth hormone causes hyperplasia in adults - not proven either.
Lets face it, it's all theorie. In the past it wasn't proven because it was impossible to count crossectional muscle fibers, now, from what I understand, they can count using a nitric acid method.
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Milos and drama anywhere he goes. Has anyone stop to asked or tried to know for what reasons and popose is milos sending those old pictures taken since march 07, before the ARNOLD CLASSIC to be posted here, i mean on flelonline, when then he did refused to post all my training pictures he took then, while training in his gym, even when my sponsor who are the owner of this very broad did ask him to do that, but he poposely fufused. As if its not enough with his own broad, or his crossing over to getbig, now he wants to rule here as he always said. When ever Milos comes up with things like this, surely he is up to making some damang or some evil plan. Come to think about it, in the pictures posted to start with, Non of those guys are with him, officially and un official, I am myself cos i love to take my time and learn the right way, no matter what.
silvio - officially nothing with this man, fully trained by charle
glass.
jeol - officially no more with him, now with charle glass.
hida - un official, but so affaid to annonce his leaving, but
has since moved to NY, un happy with his situation
but still, he's been hold tie by milos.
lukewood-un official, but off from the sean at the moment
as most of the experiment did put him to sick bed
close to a show, and milos will always clean his
hands off and ask his name to be mentioned.
manolo-un official, station and train now alone in spain,
waiting to end his pro card, then milos will claim the
glory of doing heaven and earth. just like in my own
cares.
Only God knows whats his next plan, and i would not say anything if my picture did not appraed there. i would still want to see milos pick up and NPC new comer and train to became a pro, and not waiting at his gym, when the pro are sent to do a photo shoot, then he will used that chance to talk to then. If only he could live me alone and off from his life.
Thanks and God blessed.
S.S.
Wow..."Nigerian Nightmare" or should I call you - Silvia?
Started your day on the left foot? Overly sensitive...or just "loving" as usual?
Drama, drama, drama...anywhere I go...?
That makes me - DRAMATIC...
Oh well...for your information my POPOSE to send these old photos to FLEONLINE was exactly to make sure that one of your sponsors -AMI (you know, just ONE of two major sponsorships I negotiated for you earlier this year - FOR FREE to help you stay in US and pursue your dream) chooses the photos they want to post on the net.
As I have posted HUNDREDS of your photos on the boards with intention to give you visibility and show the world incredible improvements you have made while training in my gym - which will catapult you as a front runner for upcoming shows and get you your lifetime dream: qualification for the Olympia (something you tried to accomplish in 2006 several times without success).
Interestingly - after few weeks of doing things slightly different (MY WAY ) you started shocking the world and even with bad judging - menage to qualify for the Olympia in EVERY SINGLE OUTING with me in your corner.
You could have won or placed second in the Ironman...and repeat that week later in Sacramento...You were somehow overlooked (in your interpretation: you were punished by being with me...) but nevertheless YOU GOT 2 endorsement contracts in less than 2 months staying with me, got paid for numerous photoshoots I organized and negotiated the fees (higher than usual), got prize money and numerous other things...with HARDLY ANY EXPENSES at all (as your accommodation was TAKEN CARE OFF by me - first 40 days with exception of maybe 3-4 nights total...)
It is known in civilized world that you should not bite the hand that feeds you...and with your attitude and true personality that ALWAYS eventually comes on surface - you will have few issues in the very near future...I am convinced.
So hopefully - you can wise-up before is too late.
As for dramatic Milos - I am doing what I always did - enjoy bodybuilding to the fullest and HELP others every way I can.
Photos I sent to FLEONLINE - (my sponsor who are the owner of this very broad did ask him to do that, but he poposely fufused) - are just fraction of hundreds I sent and will continue to send to their office as I never POPOSELY FUFUSED to post any of your training photos - rather I was TOLD NOT TO POST them and the first one I did (New York show) made so much mess that caused a lot of DRAMA (my middle name I guess).
And for your info: above shown athletes are ALL MY TEAM MEMBERS in good standing - ALL except you...off course.
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Milos, this is just what you needed, drama and issueds back and forward. There are peolpe who dose more valueble helps and things to people without any comment, but you always claim glory on my victory even till now that, i no longer train with you. Anywhere don't forget that if your ways was the best for me, i would have stayed with you, rather then leaving, and besides my body was not to be used by your experiment on stuffs, (your way) to take my shape away from real fisic of bbing. It is a shame for you to mention about my contract negociation on this board, when my very sponsor know what you where doing on the deal, and the doble game that you did play, but thank God finally i did it my way and i sign the contract without your so called negociation not even your present. I know it makes no diffences to you, even when you wash your dirty tracks in the public, but i will not and never will i dance your way. keep to you life and forget about me. I do not need any favour from you milos, my sponsors do have more recent pictures of me, and not in any way they will ask for any picture of mine, from you mostly when they all know your deals.
Stay blessed, go and look for others further up coming then sing your glory.
Thanks.
S.S.
Silvia, Silvia, Silvia...
You are forgetting that YOU STARTED this dialog and not me.
It is "your sponsor" that posted these photos and not me - if you didn't notice...and there are photos of great friend of mine and exceptional athlete JOEL STUBS whom I will be preparing for the 2008 pro season...
You were there on the photo - just as a "bystander" and not the star you see yourself to be.
I don't need neither drama nor glory - I had enough of both...
What I am doing on daily bases is something you will never comprehend as it is out of your grasp: HELPING PEOPLE...Just like I helped you - WHEN YOU NEEDED THE HELP THE MOST...
Now, since you are "the enemy" you are the one poring oil on the fire which is long tamed...but so be it.
My little Silvia - I eat people like you for breakfast so if you want to "play the game" I am all for it...
The difference is - I will stick with the truth and truth only - and you can continue your ways...
As far as you being my "experiment" you are the first one stating you never take ANYTHING YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT...until your friend Sergio Garcia had "something to say"...Now - you are suggesting that I claim glory on your victory?
Which victory are you talking about?
Your improvements in Koloseum were visible DAILY and sad thing is: you didn't learn a thing...but than again for someone who doesn't know the difference between protein and carbohydrates I guess I shouldn't expect nothing more...
As you suggest:
"I know it makes no diffences to you, even when you wash your dirty tracks in the public, but i will not and never will i dance your way."
There is no diffences to me, even when I was my dirty tracks in the public and please you will not and never will you dance my way...
And please don't flatter yourself - I am not doing YOU a favor by giving your photos to your sponsor...It just happens to be that under the circumstances I took you everywhere with me - so you are on most of the photos I have given to MY SPONSOR...
And your "negociations" are different story which I would love to expose and one of these days I certainly will - as it seems to be quite a "twist" of the truth - as you will interpret what really happened.
Before you came to California - you had ZILCH and you cried repeatedly to me (and others) how desperate you are...
I made things happen for you and negotiated TWO contracts as you were afraid to speak and had no idea what to ask for (as you never made a dime from sponsors before...).
As I managed to DOUBLE one of your contracts you were grateful for about a minute...and that's OK with me...
What goes around Silvia - comes around...
See you around.
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As always - truth will find the way to be told...
Here is just one of many posts everyone could find on my website:
MILOS, MORE THEN A FRIEND BUT GOD GIFT
« on: January 02, 2007, 07:03:43 PM » Reply with quote Modify message Remove message Split Topic
THANK GOD I FOUND YOU, THERE IS NO AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON EARTH, THAT I COULD OFFER FOR YOUR GIFTED HANDS, THOUGH THAT´S APART, BUT YOU WILLINGLY AND OPEN-MINDED DECIDED TO PICKED ME UP AND PUT A FINISHING TOUCH ON THE MISSING PARTS OF ME, AND FOR A LITTLE TIME THAT WE BEEN TOGETHER PROFESSIONALLY, YOUR GREAT JOB IS MAKING A GREAT CHANGES AND MORE EFFECT ON ME, AS WELL AS IN MY PREPARATIONS FOR THIS YEAR SHOW. MILOS, I THANK SO MUCH, AND I WISH YOU MORE WISDOM AND DOMINION ON ALL YOUR UNDERTAKINGS, THANKS ONCE AGAIN FOR SEEING THE PERSON IN ME, HAVING THE CONFIDENT IN ME, AND UNDERSTANDING MY WAYS LIFE AND THINKINGS, MOREOVER, THANKS SO MUCH FOR MAKING ME TO HAVE A NEW HOPE OF LIFE IN BODYBUILDING, AND ALL THE EXPERIENCES I AM LEARNING FROM YOU.
YOU ARE TRULY A GOD SENT PERSON TO MY LIFE, AND MORE THEN JUST A FRIEND, YOU DO MEANS MUCH TO ME.
THANKS.
SILVIO SAMUEL
Interestingly - he changed his mind after getting 2 endorsement contracts, placed on the money in EVERY SHOW he entered, had his accommodation and many other expenses taken care off...etc...etc
Now, as someone from the FLEXONLINE posted some of the photos I emailed to the office he finds the reason to jump in with "drama" comments...Huh
One thing everyone in industry knows - and that is...I have no problem speaking my mind..
Sad truth is: Silvio had a 'reason" to start this dialog...and I am more than willing to communicate...Always was, always will be...as I stand behind everything I say or do...
BTW - numerous posts alike are posted on my board
www.milossarcev.com
Milos, the thank you letter is clear and safe for everyone to see, it tells when you tried to show me that you were the only good and honest man in this business, every other person around who tired to come closer to us where snakes.I will not play your way, as i know, you like back and forth sense less talks, and lies. This will be my last answer to you what so ever, as i will not add to the game that you are known for or will i make this board so boring like that of yours. If I had given you the 20% of each of my contracts of which you asked for we wouldn't have any problems now. Why don't you tell everyone?
How many times did I sign checks to the sum of $2000, to pay part of your gym bills, when you sent your wife to tell me. I still have the other part of the check, as a proof.
How many times have I paid for your family goods at sam's and costo, not 1,2,3,4,5, even when you will go with us, paying with my credit card the sums of $400 to $600.
Why not tell the turth? How many times have I paid for your wife's flight tickets to attend shows, all using my credit card.
what about the protein shake that you charge me $16 for each one yet you tell the world the you helped me for free. Actually you did, but later you change your mind and asked me to pay even from jaunary when i came into U.S. why don't you tell them the bill you gave me on each show you said they were free, Then it tunrd out to be 10k for ironman preparation, $10,000 for sacramento pro, and $10,000 for the arnold classic, this was after I signed my contract. Finally you settled on $10,000. With all my placing on the 3 shows, I earned $14,000 and i was paying my hotel as well, which you lied that you paid for me. These are the things I wanted people to know. If you need more proof I will turn them in to my sponsors, so that everyone can see who the real liar is. I will not write or entertain any more of this nonsense of yours.
Hope that you and your family have a wonderful chirstmas and a happy New Year.
S.S.
Well...I see you are learning few things (like how to write...but than again MAYBE, just maybe - you had someone else writing this last post for you...) but MOST IMPORTANTLY content of the letter shows TRUE YOU.
So, let's start with your proofs.
Here is your chance of the lifetime for you to present me as a lier (as you call me).
How many checks have you written to me in amount of $2000.00?
A SINGLE ONE...
So, as you have "other part of the check(s)"...as you would like to present that was more than one check - do me a favor - POST THE COPY OF THE OTHER PART(S)...
But, I do want to remind you "imaginary" checks do not count...as you will also have to present the proof from the bank (in case you do something so "like you" - forge a few just as easy as you lie about everything else here...probably - without even blinking...
It is truly sad to see how low you can go...but I am delighted to see you showing your true face (one of the few you are having)...
Thankfully ONE OF YOUR SPONSORS knows the whole story - as he knew from day one EVERYTHING that I did for you...
Your best friend Robin knows that man very well - and so are you...
Maybe you should go to his office and report everything as you claim to be and see how will "your story" be received...
Fortunately - many people know me...and they know my athletes...Many will be able to tell HOW MUCH I CHARGE my athletes so we could compare the stories...
Your TOTAL PAYMENT of $2000.00 is FRACTION of money I have spent HELPING YOU stay and prepare in California for almost 2 months.
As you are going to show us proofs - can you produce your HOTEL BILL PAYMENT for your first 40 days of stay?
And speaking of "paying for my family" in sams and costco is really pathetic...After I paid even for your groceries for weeks - there was few times that I didn't take you to the store but someone else and you surprisingly offered to pay ONCE in the Blue Moon...and you are not ashamed to actually claim what you (or someone else for you) wrote here?
But, to cut story short as I'll quote you:"These are the things I wanted people to know. If you need more proof I will turn them in to my sponsors, so that everyone can see who the real liar is."
and "i was paying my hotel as well, which you lied that you paid for me."
and last but not least: "why don't you tell them the bill you gave me on each show you said they were free, Then it tunrd out to be 10k for ironman preparation, $10,000 for sacramento pro, and $10,000 for the arnold classic, this was after I signed my contract. Finally you settled on $10,000."
So, my dear Silvia - here is your chance - SHOW the world ANY PROOF of anything you are saying:
1- Multiple $2000.00 check stubs
2- Payment for your hotel since you arrived up until 40 days later
3- My bills I gave you (fee request)...I am sure you've saved them and you can't wait to show it to the world...so PLEASE: GO AHEAD...I sure want to see them myself...Also, "my fees" could/should be confirmed with at least ONE of my athletes whom I charged a fee...(don't you think that someone could CONFIRM same story of how much I charge everyone)...
etc...etc
I'll leave you with this...as FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFETIME maybe you could back up your words...
My family and I will have a wonderful Christmas - as ALWAYS and a happy New Year...with or without your sincere "hope"...
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Serge Nubret has been doing workouts like this for about 40 years and judging by his recent pics he would destroy you JoeLoser.
Serge did train like a maniac - for hours...at least that's what I've heard...
Super high volume ;)
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Why do you believe this? Hyperplasia has never been proven to occur in humans.
EXACTLY.
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I believe he is a good man, never said he wasn't and a good bodybuilder. But like I said, we have a difference of opinion and philosophy, personally, I think he some dangerous methods.
We have differences?
Off course - I know my stuff Coach and you were (still are) welcome to test it - ANYTIME
1101 South Placentia Avenue
FULLERTON, CA 92831
Oh yeah...I claim you DON'T (know your stuff ;)) and I am willing to prove it.
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Sylvio was an Olympic style lifter who through injury missed out on competing at the 2000- Sydney games.. Why is it so hard to believe that he went to Russia to learn more about Olympic lifting?
So he claims...but when he was about to do some power lifts in my gym - he looked like he never did any weightlifting power moves in his lifetime.
If he was going to Olympics I am quite confident he was going to be a 'water boy" or something like that...CERTAINLY NOT A COMPETITOR!
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Milos, you are awesome! hahaha
I love the sense of humor ;D
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We have differences?
Off course - I know my stuff Coach and you were (still are) welcome to test it - ANYTIME
1101 South Placentia Avenue
FULLERTON, CA 92831
Oh yeah...I claim you DON'T (know your stuff ;)) and I am willing to prove it.
Everyone on the board can prove that Joe doesn't know his stuff...Just post his recent comp/picture and that is all that is needed
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Everyone on the board can prove that Joe doesn't know his stuff...Just post his recent comp/picture and that is all that is needed
Every morning when I look on here, there is always one dumb and naive post of the day.......congrats, today you have that honour!
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EXACTLY.
Amazing how you addressed my other posts, but bypassed this........
"In the past it wasn't proven because it was impossible to count crossectional muscle fibers, now, from what I understand, they can count using a nitric acid method".
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Even if he is your personal friend, he is all about MONEY. Let's not forget he stole $2550 from HUGE NASSER!
Hugesnasser also says he doesn't use synthol so I wouldn't take his word on the $2550.
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Did you think that up all by yourself?
Is that your best answer saggy?
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Is that your best answer saggy?
Yes, I don't have time for retarded 14 year old internet gimmick trolls.
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Hugesnasser also says he doesn't use synthol so I wouldn't take his word on the $2550.
Yeah but Milos did not even deny the accusation in his response to it, he only implied that it was not borrowed in the form of cash ;D
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Everyone on the board can prove that Joe doesn't know his stuff...Just post his recent comp/picture and that is all that is needed
Thats pretty funny considering I smoked all of Milos' guys that were in the same show as me.....and that includes conditioning!!
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We have differences?
Off course - I know my stuff Coach and you were (still are) welcome to test it - ANYTIME
1101 South Placentia Avenue
FULLERTON, CA 92831
Oh yeah...I claim you DON'T (know your stuff ;)) and I am willing to prove it.
run away coach, like we all know you are going to.
you prefer to sit and shoot your mouth instead of stepping up and taking accountability for your words.
everyone on this board knows you're full of shit and all see your repeated attempts to dodge milos time after time when challenged to stand up for the bullshit you talk.
but dont stop on my account- i find it all very amusing.
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Thats pretty funny considering I smoked all of Milos' guys that were in the same show as me.....and that includes conditioning!!
Epic responding to the same post twice.
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run away coach, like we all know you are going to.
you prefer to sit and shoot your mouth instead of stepping up and taking accountability for your words.
everyone on this board knows you're full of shit and all see your repeated attempts to dodge milos time after time when challenged to stand up for the bullshit you talk.
but dont stop on my account- i find it all very amusing.
Call it what you want, his guys had much worse conditioning than I did. I can post some comparisons if you want.
BTW, Hi Garreth.
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Yes, I don't have time for retarded 14 year old internet gimmick trolls.
You'd think after the beating you took from BEAST you'd learn to keep your mouth shut you saggy mexican ;).
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You'd think after the beating you took from BEAST you'd learn to keep your mouth shut you saggy mexican ;).
MEXICAN >:(??
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Amazing how you addressed my other posts, but bypassed this........
"In the past it wasn't proven because it was impossible to count crossectional muscle fibers, now, from what I understand, they can count using a nitric acid method".
Amazing?
How about - not worth mentioning?
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Yeah but Milos did not even deny the accusation in his response to it, he only implied that it was not borrowed in the form of cash ;D
Oh - I didn't?
Well, let me make sure to do it officially: I don't owe Nasser any money, old shirts and/or underwear...STEROIDS (as someone is implying...) or really ANYTHING except serious questioning about his testimonial in front of Grand Jury in Iowa and last interview...
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Thats pretty funny considering I smoked all of Milos' guys that were in the same show as me.....and that includes conditioning!!
Smoked all of my guys?
Who exactly?
One guy that did transformation challenge as he started training two years ago?
GREAT JOB Coach!
For someone who trains only 2 (3?) decades - I think indeed - you smoked him and teched me a lesson.
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Call it what you want, his guys had much worse conditioning than I did. I can post some comparisons if you want.
BTW, Hi Garreth.
Please do... ;D
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BTW Coach...what about my offer to question you in front of camera (camcorder)...and post it as "Coach tip of the week" (how to train 3 decades and still not manage to look like a bodybuilder...?)
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Oh - I didn't?
Well, let me make sure to do it officially: I don't owe Nasser any money, old shirts and/or underwear...STEROIDS (as someone is implying...) or really ANYTHING except serious questioning about his testimonial in front of Grand Jury in Iowa and last interview...
What testimony is this?
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BTW Coach...what about my offer to question you in front of camera (camcorder)...and post it as "Coach tip of the week" (how to train 3 decades and still not manage to look like a bodybuilder...?)
lol.
lmao.
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BTW Coach...what about my offer to question you in front of camera (camcorder)...and post it as "Coach tip of the week" (how to train 3 decades and still not manage to look like a bodybuilder...?)
ahahahahahaha owned
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"Coach tip of the week" (how to train 3 decades and still not manage to look like a bodybuilder...?)
I think all that insulin has effected your eyesite!
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0355.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0336.jpg)
....and I still look 10 years younger than you :P
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0322-1.jpg)
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This thread's finally heating up. ;D
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As always - truth will find the way to be told...
Here is just one of many posts everyone could find on my website:
MILOS, MORE THEN A FRIEND BUT GOD GIFT
« on: January 02, 2007, 07:03:43 PM » Reply with quote Modify message Remove message Split Topic
THANK GOD I FOUND YOU, THERE IS NO AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON EARTH, THAT I COULD OFFER FOR YOUR GIFTED HANDS,YOU ARE TRULY A GOD SENT PERSON TO MY LIFE, AND MORE THEN JUST A FRIEND, YOU DO MEANS MUCH TO ME.
THANKS.
SILVIO SAMUEL
Silvio Samuel: World's Famous Epic c-o-c-k-s-u-c-k-e-r
hahaha
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This thread's finally heating up. ;D
It's funny, I started this thread, not really knowing or caring much about the situation (which explains why I've barely replied to it), just to stir up some contraversy again with DCM - seems like it worked pretty well lol.
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BTW Coach...what about my offer to question you in front of camera (camcorder)...and post it as "Coach tip of the week" (how to train 3 decades and still not manage to look like a bodybuilder...?)
rofl, that wasnt needed milos! Our virtual version of frank zane (after a car crash and serious alcohol problem) deserve some respect hahahaha
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yeah training is really rocket science ::)
gotta agree here..
its all about genes...
and drugs
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Thats pretty funny considering I smoked all of Milos' guys that were in the same show as me.....and that includes conditioning!!
Those guys only work out at the gym, to my knowledge Milos did not directly train any of the guys you are talking about. ;)
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Those guys only work out at the gym, to my knowledge Milos did not directly train any of the guys you are talking about. ;)
Thats not what I was told.
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Thats not what I was told.
Like I said...."to my knowledge"....who told you? Everytime I saw those guys/girls working out, Milos was not with them. So unless they were doing 2x's daily.......but what do I know. ::)
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I think all that insulin has effected your eyesite!
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0355.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0336.jpg)
....and I still look 10 years younger than you :P
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0322-1.jpg)
OH...sorry...HOW COULD I EVER SUGGEST that you don't look like a bodybuilder?
Indeed - you do...Kind off...Not really...and certainly not (good) competitive bodybuilder - but one of those that tries to builds his body (I said tries and certainly not -succeeds - as only 3 decades later - it's hard to see any visible progress...)
I can do more for you in 3 months than what you did in your lifetime?
Want to hire me?
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Thats not what I was told.
What were you told? ::)
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you just fuccked up now Milos, Joe claims to have bench pressed 535 raw at 181 bodyweight in 1984, what are you gonna do if he finds you?
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you just fuccked up now Milos, Joe claims to have bench pressed 535 raw at 181 bodyweight in 1984, what are you gonna do if he finds you?
Laugh, out loud, in his face. Probably. That's what I would do.
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you just fuccked up now Milos, Joe claims to have bench pressed 535 raw at 181 bodyweight in 1984, what are you gonna do if he finds you?
I can bench press 535 grams and 535 ounces TOO - anytime...
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Than in my entire life Milos? Let's not get delutional now.you do good with the chems (exept insulin which screwed up bbing to no end) like I said, I haven't dieted down for almost 20 years and you know as well as I, 2-3 more shows would have me damn near dialed in. BUT, exept for 1 out of all the people you had in that show, my conditioning was better and that's not saying much!
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Milos,
What would you do different for Joe here? How can you make him come in better? Can sipping on your specialized drinks during the workout and lots of giant sets/supersets do the trick as you proclaim?
The only thing I can see is that he had about 5-6 more lbs to lose if even that. Maybe a little bit of water.
Speak on this, Milos.
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Milos...u are a great guy and were a great bb...but u act like a jealous bitch towards Joe.
1. he looks/looked excellent
2. he's right about insulin fucking up the look of bodybuilders,,,and the waist more important.
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OH...sorry...HOW COULD I EVER SUGGEST that you don't look like a bodybuilder?
Indeed - you do...Kind off...Not really...and certainly not (good) competitive bodybuilder - but one of those that tries to builds his body (I said tries and certainly not -succeeds - as only 3 decades later - it's hard to see any visible progress...)
Want to hire me?
Ok, back on my computer (I posted from my crackberry while shopping...again :-\).
1. No, I don't want to hire you, especially for $500 per hour...I'd have to be a COMPLETE idiot!
2. I really don't pay much attention to your insults, you mention in 3 decades, in the first decade, I competed maybe 6 times and did not compete the other 2 decades. Just as the same as it is today as it was 20 years ago, the ends don't justify the means. I completed this time because 1. I wanted too 2. I had the money (on which I'll never get back) and 3. Because of encouragment from my wife, I had the time.
3. And I never said this before, I know EXACTLY what went wrong and it happend with in the last day or so before the show, again, just as a comparison
Here's one of your guys TWO DAYS out....
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/2daysout.jpg)
Here's me approximately 3 weeks out......
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0255.jpg)
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Ok, back on my computer (I posted from my crackberry while shopping...again :-\).
1. No, I don't want to hire you, especially for $500 per hour...I'd have to be a COMPLETE idiot!
2. I really don't pay much attention to your insults, you mention in 3 decades, in the first decade, I competed maybe 6 times and did not compete the other 2 decades. Just as the same as it is today as it was 20 years ago, the ends don't justify the means. I completed this time because 1. I wanted too 2. I had the money (on which I'll never get back) and 3. Because of encouragment from my wife, I had the time.
3. And I never said this before, I know EXACTLY what went wrong and it happend with in the last day or so before the show, again, just as a comparison
Here's one of your guys TWO DAYS out....
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/2daysout.jpg)
Here's me approximately 3 weeks out......
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0255.jpg)
in the first pic, is that acne @ back?
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in the first pic, is that acne @ back?
Ask Milos, it's his guy.
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Ask Milos, it's his guy.
did milos prep him for the show ?
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in the first pic, is that acne @ back?
BTW, your avatar is extremely disturbing :-\
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Ask Milos, it's his guy.
oops i missed that part, i thought that was you LOOKING GREAT ;D
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did milos prep him for the show ?
Yes, along with a couple of others I beat.
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Yes, along with a couple of others I beat.
U shouldn't pay attention to Milos ...he tries to be a bully but I think he's just a little off upstairs,....lacking common sense.
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BTW, your avatar is extremely disturbing :-\
Want me to change it? After all we are like brothers, JOELOCO
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U shouldn't pay attention to Milos ...he tries to be a bully but I think he's just a little off upstairs,....lacking common sense.
LMAO...hahahahaha!!
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Want me to change it? After all we are like brothers, JOELOCO
Yes please....I'm getting nauseated!
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Yes please....I'm getting nauseated!
done, now send me some pics of the hoe (wife)
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done, now send me some pics of the hoe (wife)
>:(
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done, now send me some pics of the hoe (wife)
:)
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Than in my entire life Milos? Let's not get delutional now.you do good with the chems (exept insulin which screwed up bbing to no end) like I said, I haven't dieted down for almost 20 years and you know as well as I, 2-3 more shows would have me damn near dialed in. BUT, exept for 1 out of all the people you had in that show, my conditioning was better and that's not saying much!
Coach - I am precisely telling you that IF you stop being ignorant and stubborn I can make you better than ever in matter of 3 MONTHS!!!
Money back guarantee...as promised here on GETBIG....
"My guys" were Dennis Wolf, Johnnie Jackson and Hidetada Yamagishi...Guys you are talking about are few friends who did Excalibur show for fun - gaining necessary experience for the next season...None of them I prepared...few I advised with couple of things - but far and away from "dialing them in"...
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Milos,
What would you do different for Joe here? How can you make him come in better? Can sipping on your specialized drinks during the workout and lots of giant sets/supersets do the trick as you proclaim?
The only thing I can see is that he had about 5-6 more lbs to lose if even that. Maybe a little bit of water.
Speak on this, Milos.
Would you like my answer this second or immediately - sir? ::)
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your back looks great in those pics above Joe.
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Milos...u are a great guy and were a great bb...but u act like a jealous bitch towards Joe.
1. he looks/looked excellent
2. he's right about insulin fucking up the look of bodybuilders,,,and the waist more important.
:'( :'( :'(You got me...
How did you just figure me out? I thought nobody would notice! >:(
I am beyond jealous bitch towards Joe.
I mean look at him - who wouldn't be jealous?
Some guys just have everything - brain, body, looks, personality, MUSCLES ::)...
But, one day...one day - I will be just as good - you'll see...
If Joe went zero carbs for only 8 weeks - I'll do 9...and the waist more important(? ????)...
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Ok, back on my computer (I posted from my crackberry while shopping...again :-\).
1. No, I don't want to hire you, especially for $500 per hour...I'd have to be a COMPLETE idiot!
2. I really don't pay much attention to your insults, you mention in 3 decades, in the first decade, I competed maybe 6 times and did not compete the other 2 decades. Just as the same as it is today as it was 20 years ago, the ends don't justify the means. I completed this time because 1. I wanted too 2. I had the money (on which I'll never get back) and 3. Because of encouragment from my wife, I had the time.
3. And I never said this before, I know EXACTLY what went wrong and it happend with in the last day or so before the show, again, just as a comparison
Here's one of your guys TWO DAYS out....
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/2daysout.jpg)
Here's me approximately 3 weeks out......
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0255.jpg)
Honestly....from a bodybuilding standpoint. His guy has better genetics and has only been training 2 yrs. You also look like you have a saggy old man butt and hamstrings. Also, narrow clavicle. Looks like your weight class at that show was VERY weak...but cant fault a guy for wanting to compete....just dont bash others when you arent so great. It also boggles my mind how you can compare yourself to Milos, when he has destroyed any physique you could possibly attain with his own and people he has trained.
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Ok, back on my computer (I posted from my crackberry while shopping...again :-\).
1. No, I don't want to hire you, especially for $500 per hour...I'd have to be a COMPLETE idiot!
2. I really don't pay much attention to your insults, you mention in 3 decades, in the first decade, I competed maybe 6 times and did not compete the other 2 decades. Just as the same as it is today as it was 20 years ago, the ends don't justify the means. I completed this time because 1. I wanted too 2. I had the money (on which I'll never get back) and 3. Because of encouragment from my wife, I had the time.
3. And I never said this before, I know EXACTLY what went wrong and it happend with in the last day or so before the show, again, just as a comparison
Here's one of your guys TWO DAYS out....
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/2daysout.jpg)
Here's me approximately 3 weeks out......
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0255.jpg)
Your choice...After all competing 6 times before taking 20 year break...and than hiring someone to prepare you (sad - considering that YOU ARE a trainer yourself...but WISE - as you know that you cannot get yourself in shape so maybe someone else could...)...Not bad...
And thank God you've LEARNED something and you KNOW what went wrong - as 20 years from now when you enter another show (as you probably 1- wouldn't want to do nothing for a long time, 2- would not have a money and 3- your wife would have no heart to encourage you to make a fool out of yourself again - at least FOR A WHILE...) - you will know EXACTLY what to do...But, I suggest you write it down...as 20 years from now who knows if you could remember it?
And looking at your photos 3 weeks out I wonder why you stopped training and dieting for full 3 weeks before the show?
You must know some method I've never heard about!
Care to elaborate?
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Honestly....from a bodybuilding standpoint. His guy has better genetics and has only been training 2 yrs. You also look like you have a saggy old man butt and hamstrings. Also, narrow clavicle. Looks like your weight class at that show was VERY weak...but cant fault a guy for wanting to compete....just dont bash others when you arent so great. It also boggles my mind how you can compare yourself to Milos, when he has destroyed any physique you could possibly attain with his own and people he has trained.
No, the guy has not been training for only 2 years.
http://www.binaisbegovic.com/biography.html
Whatever that guy had he totally destroyed with the Synthol. A damn shame.
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I really don't pay much attention to your insults
;D ;D ;D
(Epic lack of paying attention...)
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and than hiring someone to prepare you (sad - considering that YOU ARE a trainer yourself...but WISE - as you know that you cannot get yourself in shape so maybe someone else could...)...Not bad...
.....and the dumbest post of the day goes to Milos Sarcev!! Hey Milos, are you saying that all the pro's you have "trained" are too stupid to train themselves? Epic sticking your foot in you're mouth.
And thank God you've LEARNED something and you KNOW what went wrong - as 20 years from now when you enter another show (as you probably 1- wouldn't want to do nothing for a long time, 2- would not have a money and 3- your wife would have no heart to encourage you to make a fool out of yourself again - at least FOR A WHILE...) - you will know EXACTLY what to do...But, I suggest you write it down...as 20 years from now who knows if you could remember it?
And looking at your photos 3 weeks out I wonder why you stopped training and dieting for full 3 weeks before the show?
You must know some method I've never heard about!
Care to elaborate?
Really? Then I guess I could say the same about you're guy?
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Honestly....from a bodybuilding standpoint. His guy has better genetics and has only been training 2 yrs. You also look like you have a saggy old man butt and hamstrings. Also, narrow clavicle. Looks like your weight class at that show was VERY weak...but cant fault a guy for wanting to compete....just dont bash others when you arent so great. It also boggles my mind how you can compare yourself to Milos, when he has destroyed any physique you could possibly attain with his own and people he has trained.
he looks a million times better than you, if you disagree post your picture next to his and let the board decide.
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when he has destroyed any physique you could possibly attain with his own and people he has trained.
You can say that again :-X
Hey this kid has great genetics and great shape, I never took that away from him, I was talking about conditioning. About my class, the dude who won the Lt.Heavys was (is) an IFBB pro and his contest record will prove. The rest of the top 5 have competed multiple times this year.
My class in the Masters Heavys was won by David Hughs, a dude who has been trying to turn pro for like a hundred years. Most of the guys who places ahead of me were sponsered.......Hughs, by Gaspari.
Hughs........
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/hughs.jpg)
Me.......
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0349.jpg)
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i thought the coach was leaving GB lol
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EPIC monster meltdown...poor Coach...
Are you saying TOP PROS are all personal trainers?
Now...I did not say personal trainers should NOT HIRE someone who knows MORE than them...I was referring ONLY to you.
After all - you are NOT IFBB pro ( ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D)...and ONLY job that you have is (if I am not wrong?) - TRAINING other individuals...
So, IN YOUR CASE - lack of confidence that you are going to be able to prepare yourself for a show - is somewhat comical (but IN YOUR CASE understandable...While you can fool your clients - you can't fool yourself - as IF YOU KNOW HOW {to prepare, train, eat, diet, deplete...THINK} - YOU SURE would not ask other(s)... ;D
And - the fact that TOP PROS come to me - MAYBE could be somewhat good indication that I could possibly know what I am talking about...and IF I can make a difference in a look of the pros in matter of 3 months GUESS what could I do to individual with virtually no muscle (aaaand that would be - YOU ;) . Now, don't forget I am giving you a MONEY BACK GUARANTEE...Remember?)
As for your second remark - I guess you can say the same for "my guy"...you are forgeting that his pic is from 2 DAYS OUT and yours was 3 WEEKS OUT - as you so proudly claimed. ;D
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And - the fact that TOP PROS come to me - MAYBE could be somewhat good indication that I could possibly know what I am talking about...and IF I can make a difference in a look of the pros in matter of 3 months GUESS what could I do to individual with virtually no muscle (aaaand that would be - YOU ;) . Now, don't forget I am giving you a MONEY BACK GUARANTEE...Remember?)
Hey, you do a good job with most of them, you seem to know exactly what the judges are looking for and you give that to them (and this is why the judging is so screwed up). This is the thing Milos, I hate the way most of the pros look, we discussed this on the phone and you agreed.
As for your second remark - I guess you can say the same for "my guy"...you are forgeting that his pic is from 2 DAYS OUT and yours was 3 WEEKS OUT - as you so proudly claimed. ;D
Yeah, and we were both soft the day of the show....what's your point?
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he looks a million times better than you, if you disagree post your picture next to his and let the board decide.
k...
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k...
hahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that's you? that's the guy who's been claiming to be a huge mass monster who presses 405 on the incline and curls 100 pound db's? oh brother, epic scarecrow build, brutal 14 inch arms, you're ripped but you are TINY.
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Different day... bad posing and positioning... u get the idea....
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hahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that's you? that's the guy who's been claiming to be a huge mass monster who presses 405 on the incline and curls 100 pound db's? oh brother, epic scarecrow build, brutal 14 inch arms, you're ripped but you are TINY.
brutal 14 inch arms... ::)
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brutal 14 inch arms... ::)
dude i'm being totally honest with you, you are ripped i'll give you that but you are SMALL, you honestly look 187-190 pound tops there.
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dude i'm being totally honest with you, you are ripped i'll give you that but you are SMALL, you honestly look 187-190 pound tops there.
actually 5'8 216ish in those pix
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actually 5'8 216ish in those pix
no way on earth are you 216 in those shots, no way, like i said you're ripped and you look good but you look like the type of guy who disappears in clothes and doesn't even look like you train.
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no way on earth are you 216 in those shots, no way, like i said you're ripped and you look good but you look like the type of guy who disappears in clothes and doesn't even look like you train.
LOL well thickness is my weakness, but i am wide. Honest to god, swear on my family...about 216 in those pix....should i have video'd myself stepping on a scale too? lol
oh and dont compare me to yourself....lots of fat on top of muscle makes you appear bigger IN clothes, but how do you look with your shirt off?...exactly ;)
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LOL well thickness is my weakness, but i am wide. Honest to god, swear on my family...about 216 in those pix....should i have video'd myself stepping on a scale too? lol
oh and dont compare me to yourself....lots of fat on top of muscle makes you appear bigger IN clothes, but how do you look with your shirt off?...exactly ;)
i don't care what the scale says you DON'T LOOK LIKE you weigh 216, i REALLY want to see this 405 barbell incline now, there is no way you press that.
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i don't care what the scale says you DON'T LOOK LIKE you weigh 216, i REALLY want to see this 405 barbell incline now, there is no way you press that.
You have seen video 160lb dumbells x 5....why do you doubt a 1 rep max where most people handle more on a barbell? Im on PCT anyway (wanna be healthy and have kids some day), so might not be able to pull it off NOW. If it matters THAT much to you, you can save this post and repost my promise to put up a video end of Feb or early March K?
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Different day... bad posing and positioning... u get the idea....
You look good, how old are you?
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Hey Joe...
Do you have a front shots of you in your show?
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You have seen video 160lb dumbells x 5....why do you doubt a 1 rep max where most people handle more on a barbell? Im on PCT anyway (wanna be healthy and have kids some day), so might not be able to pull it off NOW. If it matters THAT much to you, you can save this post and repost my promise to put up a video end of Feb or early March K?
that's fine man, no worries but it makes me laugh how you had people fooled on here, i don't care how ripped you are i would ABSOLUTELY DWARF you in person.
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Joe....24
that's fine man, no worries but it makes me laugh how you had people fooled on here, i don't care how ripped you are i would ABSOLUTELY DWARF you in person.
iv seen your pix, you wont dwarf me even now. Lose the bodyfat and get to around 12% and youl realize how big you thought you were, but arent. I see that happen alot. Most of the time tho...they are MORE happy with their new smaller but leaner look! If you are ever interested, il be the nice guy here and help you out... if i can take almost 100lbs off 5 people at 5 different times i can certainly take 30-40 off of you (and still allow a few cheat meals per week)
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Joe....24
iv seen your pix, you wont dwarf me even now. Lose the bodyfat and get to around 12% and youl realize how big you thought you were, but arent. I see that happen alot. Most of the time tho...they are MORE happy with their new smaller but leaner look! If you are ever interested, il be the nice guy here and help you out... if i can take almost 100lbs off 5 people at 5 different times i can certainly take 30-40 off of you (and still allow a few cheat meals per week)
hahahahaa, why would i listen to a sub 200 pound midget tell me anything about training and nutrtion, i'm 6 feet and 240 plus pounds, if i stood in front of you nobody would be able to see you.
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Hey Joe...
Do you have a front shots of you in your show?
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0336.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0358.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0356.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0357.jpg)
From the nightshow........
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/Joe2.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/NewImage.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/Joe3.jpg)
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Joe....24
Again, you look great.....now about the "old saggy ass" comment, lets see what you're ass will look like in 22 more years ;)
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<insert sad pics>
how about you pick milos's offer? If you do it, i'll go there to bang the ho while milos teach you :)
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Again, you look great.....now about the "old saggy ass" comment, lets see what you're ass will look like in 22 more years ;)
haha good point! I have a HUGE ass too... :-\
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hahahahaa, why would i listen to a sub 200 pound midget tell me anything about training and nutrtion, i'm 6 feet and 240 plus pounds, if i stood in front of you nobody would be able to see you.
LOL i was 240 like 3 weeks ago at 5'8 WITH abs. Ya, youd dwarf me lol. At least some people on this board might believe you...but when you come back to reality you will realize if you stood next to me.....well, u get the idea....and if you trained with me, well... ;D
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haha good point! I have a HUGE ass too... :-\
Hey, we'll all be fighting gravity one day. I train for my health now.
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Hey, we'll all be fighting gravity one day. I train for my health now.
You should help out SF... i feel bad for the big (fat) guy haha....
At your age it is very respectable to step on stage in that condition. Im already getting aches and pains at my age in knees and tight muscles and god knows what else... cant imagine 20 more years feeling like this haha. I feel GREAT with my 2 week break from the gym, it was much needed. Forget who said it but a great quote iv heard is "one of the hardest lessons for any dedicated bodybuilder is when to back off and rest". I probably could have looked better for my show this year but did ALOT of stupid shit that i KNEW was wrong (training 4 weeks straight 2 hours at a time with no days off, some double sessions, even 2am sessions when i couldnt sleep and didnt realize i couldnt sleep because i was severely overtrained). The older you get... the more you realize how much you thought you knew and DIDNT.
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hahahahaa, why would i listen to a sub 200 pound midget tell me anything about training and nutrtion, i'm 6 feet and 240 plus pounds, if i stood in front of you nobody would be able to see you.
fatty- your not 240 pounds at 10%- that would be respectable. your 240 pounds at 25%, at least.
just like all the other delusional losers who eat their way into obesity and think they are 'big' and 'dwarf' others, you don't seem to realise you are a laughing stock.
i actually just figured out i know you-
you're the guy who gets off the calf raise machine after working his massive 16 inch calves and walks around like he's doing a front lat spread.
you wear you're weight- belt everyday, cause you feel it makes your 42' waist look smaller and hides your oversized love- handles.
you have stretch marks around your waist that are purple and disgusting, and when you take your t- shirt off, your rolls flop down over the sides of your pants.
you dont get girls, and if you did, you're embarassed to take your shirt off in front of them, and if you do get lucky enough to bed some pig, you ask to keep the lights off knowing she wont argue cause she's as fat as you are.
but dont stop on my account- i need someone to laugh at, and you make me look good.
keep up the good work, taco- bella.
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#1- Yes I know what I am doing...and it shows...
#2- My point is - Binais decided to enter the contest 3 weeks before...and wanted to present new improved BIGGER physique which he did - in a big way...
He knew he was off and late 2-3 weeks but nevertheless - he did great...
Comparing his "softness" with yours is FUNNY - Guy dieting for 3 weeks with more carbs in one day than you in one month - and looking EQUALLY SOFT yet 30 pounds bigger....Hmmmmmmmm?
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#1- Yes I know what I am doing...and it shows...
#2- My point is - Binais decided to enter the contest 3 weeks before...and wanted to present new improved BIGGER physique which he did - in a big way...
He knew he was off and late 2-3 weeks but nevertheless - he did great...
Comparing his "softness" with yours is FUNNY - Guy dieting for 3 weeks with more carbs in one day than you in one month - and looking EQUALLY SOFT yet 30 pounds bigger....Hmmmmmmmm?
Admit it Milos......you love me!
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Admit it Milos......you love me!
Can you blame me? ;)
Who doesn't? ;D
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Milos, what is(are) Binais' body part(s) that need improvement?
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fatty- your not 240 pounds at 10%- that would be respectable. your 240 pounds at 25%, at least.
just like all the other delusional losers who eat their way into obesity and think they are 'big' and 'dwarf' others, you don't seem to realise you are a laughing stock.
i actually just figured out i know you-
you're the guy who gets off the calf raise machine after working his massive 16 inch calves and walks around like he's doing a front lat spread.
you wear you're weight- belt everyday, cause you feel it makes your 42' waist look smaller and hides your oversized love- handles.
you have stretch marks around your waist that are purple and disgusting, and when you take your t- shirt off, your rolls flop down over the sides of your pants.
you dont get girls, and if you did, you're embarassed to take your shirt off in front of them, and if you do get lucky enough to bed some pig, you ask to keep the lights off knowing she wont argue cause she's as fat as you are.
but dont stop on my account- i need someone to laugh at, and you make me look good.
keep up the good work, taco- bella.
WOW there IS intelligent life on this board! Well said!
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Yes, along with a couple of others I beat.
You keep saying this, but two pages before this post Milos claims he trained nobody for this show. Did you miss this post or are you purposely lying to people here?
Smoked all of my guys?
Who exactly?
One guy that did transformation challenge as he started training two years ago?
GREAT JOB Coach!
For someone who trains only 2 (3?) decades - I think indeed - you smoked him and teched me a lesson.
Just because someone trains in his gym does not mean he is training that person. I thought you were smarter than this Joey.
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:'( :'( :'(You got me...
How did you just figure me out? I thought nobody would notice! >:(
I am beyond jealous bitch towards Joe.
I mean look at him - who wouldn't be jealous?
Some guys just have everything - brain, body, looks, personality, MUSCLES ::)...
But, one day...one day - I will be just as good - you'll see...
If Joe went zero carbs for only 8 weeks - I'll do 9...and the waist more important(? ????)...
I didn't mean to sound like u envy his developement...you were in a diff league alltoghether . What I meant is that u see he looked/loooks very good . He knows what went wrong . But u try to demean him and he's on point with what he says. However...if I'd be him I'd take u up on the offer to prep him for a show because u are a very knowledgeable person...one of the best ever I believe. So ...stop insulting joe and give him some solid constructive criticism.
Pertaining to the waist issue. Maybe I'm blind but since 93 the waists generally became bigger and bigger....discuss.
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However...if I'd be him I'd take u up on the offer to prep him for a show because u are a very knowledgeable person...one of the best ever I believe.
Again, I can't justify putting out that kind of money with no return.
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fatty- your not 240 pounds at 10%- that would be respectable. your 240 pounds at 25%, at least.
just like all the other delusional losers who eat their way into obesity and think they are 'big' and 'dwarf' others, you don't seem to realise you are a laughing stock.
i actually just figured out i know you-
you're the guy who gets off the calf raise machine after working his massive 16 inch calves and walks around like he's doing a front lat spread.
you wear you're weight- belt everyday, cause you feel it makes your 42' waist look smaller and hides your oversized love- handles.
you have stretch marks around your waist that are purple and disgusting, and when you take your t- shirt off, your rolls flop down over the sides of your pants.
you dont get girls, and if you did, you're embarassed to take your shirt off in front of them, and if you do get lucky enough to bed some pig, you ask to keep the lights off knowing she wont argue cause she's as fat as you are.
but dont stop on my account- i need someone to laugh at, and you make me look good.
keep up the good work, taco- bella.
hahahaha, still no picture posted i see. ;D
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Again, I can't justify putting out that kind of money with no return.
I also believe that 350 per hour is too much...you can decide whatever your time is worth , but 350 ?...nope.
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can someone give me the cliffnotes version of this thread.....seems to me Milos is just arguing with the coach about prep stuff...
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Joe,you looked great 20 years ago,and you still look great...nice comeback after not competing for so long.
You should stay fairly lean from now on and consider doing a couple of shows next year........give your prep more time and you`d be much better.
Not really all that much money to do so.
Far better to be ready two weeks out than to peak two weeks late...............5-6 less pounds and you would have placed well in both classes.
Happy Holidays to you and your family.
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JOE :(
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hahahaha, still no picture posted i see. ;D
He sent me his pic. Pretty damn impressive. Makes you look like a little girl.
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He sent me his pic. Pretty damn impressive. Makes you look like a little girl.
post it up, let's see.
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post it up, let's see.
promised i wouldnt, but i can assure you hes in pretty damn good shape. I dont think he cares to provide more masturbation material for you and your clan
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k...
looking great there man
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Again, I can't justify putting out that kind of money with no return.
With no return?
I said MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!
And I give my "GETBIG WORD OF HONOR"... ;)
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Huge? Lets not get silly now, I can honestly say it's smaller than most of the guys you see now.
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0315.jpg)
When you say SMALLER THAN MOST OF THE GUYS YOU SEE NOW - WHAT WERE YOU REFERRING TO COACH?
I mean - isn't 'looks like a _ _ _ - but is so much smaller' something you shouldn't talk about? ;D
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Hey Milos,
Who are you picking for the Arnold?
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Hey Milos,
Who are you picking for the Arnold?
One of my athletes OFF COURSE.
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With no return?
I said MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!
And I give my "GETBIG WORD OF HONOR"... ;)
Good morning Milos, good to see your smiling face. What is your guaranty? That I look better than I did last time? I can guaranty that....or that I'll win what ever show I decide to do? Which is it?
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One of my athletes OFF COURSE.
Milos....Bodybuilders are NOT athletes.
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I just tried a Rubick's cube.
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With no return?
I said MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!
And I give my "GETBIG WORD OF HONOR"... ;)
What can u do with Joe if u take him for let's say 1 year ?
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One of my athletes OFF COURSE.
How many of your guys are doing the show?
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fatty- your not 240 pounds at 10%- that would be respectable. your 240 pounds at 25%, at least.
just like all the other delusional losers who eat their way into obesity and think they are 'big' and 'dwarf' others, you don't seem to realise you are a laughing stock.
i actually just figured out i know you-
you're the guy who gets off the calf raise machine after working his massive 16 inch calves and walks around like he's doing a front lat spread.
you wear you're weight- belt everyday, cause you feel it makes your 42' waist look smaller and hides your oversized love- handles.
you have stretch marks around your waist that are purple and disgusting, and when you take your t- shirt off, your rolls flop down over the sides of your pants.
you dont get girls, and if you did, you're embarassed to take your shirt off in front of them, and if you do get lucky enough to bed some pig, you ask to keep the lights off knowing she wont argue cause she's as fat as you are.
but dont stop on my account- i need someone to laugh at, and you make me look good.
keep up the good work, taco- bella.
That was some brutal owning
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Good morning Milos, good to see your smiling face. What is your guaranty? That I look better than I did last time? I can guaranty that....or that I'll win what ever show I decide to do? Which is it?
CRICKETS
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Good morning Milos, good to see your smiling face. What is your guaranty? That I look better than I did last time? I can guaranty that....or that I'll win what ever show I decide to do? Which is it?
CRICKETS
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Joe's cycles probably consisted of visiting the doctor and claiming loss of sex drive.
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That was some brutal owning
agreed. he ran away and did not return. SF must be cooling off that tender a$$ from gettin SPAAANNKKKEEDDD
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hahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that's you? that's the guy who's been claiming to be a huge mass monster who presses 405 on the incline and curls 100 pound db's? oh brother, epic scarecrow build, brutal 14 inch arms, you're ripped but you are TINY.
Mmmm Dont underestimate this kid. I think he is better than coach.
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hahahahaa, why would i listen to a sub 200 pound midget tell me anything about training and nutrtion, i'm 6 feet and 240 plus pounds, if i stood in front of you nobody would be able to see you.
Maybe you can coment the same in front of Lee Labrada.
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Joe,you looked great 20 years ago,and you still look great...nice comeback after not competing for so long.
You should stay fairly lean from now on and consider doing a couple of shows next year........give your prep more time and you`d be much better.
Not really all that much money to do so.
Far better to be ready two weeks out than to peak two weeks late...............5-6 less pounds and you would have placed well in both classes.
Happy Holidays to you and your family.
I agree with you Tim on all of this, I will stay lean, it's never completely out of the question that I will compete again and I do have a show in mind but money wise I have to justify it, I have never got ready for a show just for the sake of competing or for fun. I got did this show hoping to qualify for the Nationals (masters) but didn't make it, obviously. When you say not that much money to do so, what you I be looking at in a 12-16 week period?
Understand that usually all my thoughts are business related so if when money is involved, the ends has to justify the means.
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Milos....Bodybuilders are NOT athletes.
Agreed.
And, Joe, tell me, I may have missed this...is Milos saying your abs do not look good? They look damn good to me.
Mike
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uh ya coach is a shit talker at times and can irratate with some of his bs, but he looks just fine on stage and looked great for coming back after a long lay off. Hats off to him. If he was 5-6 pounds lighter and less water he could have easily done damage.
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uh ya coach is a shit talker at times and can irratate with some of his bs, but he looks just fine on stage and looked great for coming back after a long lay off. Hats off to him. If he was 5-6 pounds lighter and less water he could have easily done damage.
Hi Toolargeforyou
Is Coach the same as "Joe"?
Best regards,
Mike
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Hi Toolargeforyou
Is Coach the same as "Joe"?
Best regards,
Mike
Yes, the same ;D
Trying to get Ron to give me my name back after my pre-contest meltdown, so far nothing...........Ron?
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Agreed.
And, Joe, tell me, I may have missed this...is Milos saying your abs do not look good? They look damn good to me.
Mike
Yeah, Milos is always talking crap about me. But in retrospect, he could have been in the top 5 or 10 in almost any of the Olympia's he's been in......but his CONDITIONING wasn't good enough :D
BA DA BING
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Yeah, Milos is always talking crap about me. But in retrospect, he could have been in the top 5 or 10 in almost any of the Olympia's he's been in......but his CONDITIONING wasn't good enough :D
BA DA BING
!!
You compared yourself to frank zane amirite? btw where are the nude pics of the ho, im still waiting
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You compared yourself to frank zane amirite? btw where are the nude pics of the ho, im still waiting
I think you need to dig that thread up and check the joke that went along with it............like CNN, people tend to spin things that aren't true!
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Squadfather gets old but hes messing with you ..he doesnt really think hes big...he knows hes fat...hes just yanking your chain.
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One of my athletes OFF COURSE.
One of your athletes is @ jail. Is that part of the GIANT SETS training?
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Trying to get Ron to give me my name back after my pre-contest meltdown, so far nothing...........Ron?
Ron feels meltdowns should have consequences. After all, what exactly will you learn from this if Ron just cleans up all of your messes?
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Ron feels meltdowns should have consequences. After all, what exactly will you learn from this if Ron just cleans up all of your messes?
Thanks Dad :(
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Good morning Milos, good to see your smiling face. What is your guaranty? That I look better than I did last time? I can guaranty that....or that I'll win what ever show I decide to do? Which is it?
Again........
CRICKETS
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Again........
CRICKETS
wow joeloco, 6 stars already