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gh15,
You seem to have the most to say about what IFBB Pros use regarding hormones, insulin, growth etc... I take it you speak from experience and/or close working relationships in the professional ranks.
My question is how rampant is the hormone use among the females of the IFBB. What doseages can we believe the Top-10 at the Ms. Olympia are running? Is growth hormone and the use of insulin, igf-1 also widely used in the female ranks?
FT-1
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first of all there is no females as in truly females in professional bodybuilding and fitness,,they are already girls who have lots any femininity they ever had and may very well be called transexual when it comes to the actual look and characters of the physiqe including the sexual body parts,,
secondly they use exactly what we use ,,sometimes more some times less,,not to forget! they start as females and have to compensate to enourmous hgher doses of estrogen and minimal doses of testosterone which rings them to a point where they need a lot more injecxted and a lot anti estrogenic compounds,,
growth hormone is favortie among the female athletes and they mainly use significant others inorder to use and abuse them and getting those meds with out actually purchasing them directly,,most favorite among women is the serostim gh to this date and they will practlcally go to deep lengths and efforts to get it to a pooint of them sleeping with you m,,having 3 sums,,suckin cock iand doing nauty things in parties and vips areas,,most of those girls come from dancing backrounds or something to do with cheerleading and just the average town nookie of the week as you call it in america,,so its not a big change for them but this time they get hormones in return specifically growth and legit american growth ,,,very few buy it from aids pacients via their monthly boyfriend whihc is usually a dealer asnd local or national bodybuilder
igf is used yes
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first of all there is no females as in truly females in professional bodybuilding and fitness,,they are already girls who have lots any femininity they ever had and may very well be called transexual when it comes to the actual look and characters of the physiqe including the sexual body parts,,
secondly they use exactly what we use ,,sometimes more some times less,,not to forget! they start as females and have to compensate to enourmous hgher doses of estrogen and minimal doses of testosterone which rings them to a point where they need a lot more injecxted and a lot anti estrogenic compounds,,
growth hormone is favortie among the female athletes and they mainly use significant others inorder to use and abuse them and getting those meds with out actually purchasing them directly,,most favorite among women is the serostim gh to this date and they will practlcally go to deep lengths and efforts to get it to a pooint of them sleeping with you m,,having 3 sums,,suckin cock iand doing nauty things in parties and vips areas,,most of those girls come from dancing backrounds or something to do with cheerleading and just the average town nookie of the week as you call it in america,,so its not a big change for them but this time they get hormones in return specifically growth and legit american growth ,,,very few buy it from aids pacients via their monthly boyfriend whihc is usually a dealer asnd local or national bodybuilder
igf is used yes
Kinda like what having your mom feed someone hot soup and taking their calls at 1 in the morning for a little while does to score a professional male bodybuilder free growth. Pretty much the same thing.
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gh15,
You seem to have the most to say about what IFBB Pros use regarding hormones, insulin, growth etc... I take it you speak from experience and/or close working relationships in the professional ranks.
My question is how rampant is the hormone use among the females of the IFBB. What doseages can we believe the Top-10 at the Ms. Olympia are running? Is growth hormone and the use of insulin, igf-1 also widely used in the female ranks?
FT-1
I am going to guesstimate they run their gear in the 300-500mg/week when prepping for a show. I'm talking the TOP competitors, here.
A girl I know who just recently won an OVERALL at a regional show here recently was in the 300mg/week range. Her gh use was around 2-4iu's daily, 5 days a week for 12 weeks. Her clen use was probably in the 60-80mcg/day range.
Who knows though...majority of people lie about what they use and I can see women totally lying about what they use.
Are androgens used widely in the pro ranks among the ladies? Yea...a little bit. Anabolics? For sure. Growth Hormone? Yep...especially among FIGURE competitors. Insulin? Maybe among a few more adventerous ones. IGF-1? I doubt it but I wouldn't be suprised.
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A girl I know who just recently won an OVERALL at a regional show here recently was in the 300mg/week range. Her gh use was around 2-4iu's daily, 5 days a week for 12 weeks. Her clen use was probably in the 60-80mcg/day range.
With good genetics a female could place top 6 in a National-level heavyweight class on those amounts. Would probably take a tad more to win the class. If it takes them more than that to win a regional show they're gonna be atrocities before ever making it to pro. The idea is to prevent "atrocity" before being about 2-3 years in your professional career, after getting your card. The ideal exit strategy would be to plan for retirement after your first one or two pro shows, maybe just to say you did it for a little while. Then just go natural except for maybe a little growth and clen here or there and "go figure." You'll stay right in the top of the industry that way if you're attractive; all you've gotta do is show up after this. Cindy Phillips needs to consider such things. There's no such thing as not fucking yourself up after your first 2 years as a female pro anymore and those are only the blessed that turn out this well.
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have no doubt about it ,,even the 105lb competiotor in your local midle alabama highschool figure show that win second place is on growth and clen,,have zero doubnt about it,,
many of the clients around the worlds are females,,in ameirca the females keep low profuile and use their monthly fuck inorder to get it for them and thats the only reason they are with him ,,they are not attracted to bodybuilders they are with us inorr to get the hormones needed
also every products used by competitiors are legit as in human grade or mexican,,,no one use no underground garbage because you dont grow out of underground garbage
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With good genetics a female could place top 6 in a National-level heavyweight class on those amounts.
I predict this girl doing exceptional at JRNats this year.
gh15 makes some excellent points. Most women I know who use gear don't buy their gear. They shack up or fuck a dude who sells it on the side. EVERY girl I know who uses growth or gear(winstrol, primobolan, deca,) date or fuck a local BB dude who nickles/dime it.
Women know their ass and mouth is just as good as a VISA credit card. Pussy is equal to CASH. It's a neverending bank account. ChaChing!
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I predict this girl doing exceptional at JRNats this year.
gh15 makes some excellent points. Most women I know who use gear don't buy their gear. They shack up or fuck a dude who sells it on the side. EVERY girl I know who uses growth or gear(winstrol, primobolan, deca,) date or fuck a local BB dude who nickles/dime it.
Women know their ass and mouth is just as good as a VISA credit card. Pussy is equal to CASH. It's a neverending bank account. ChaChing!
Chicks need guys to "make them do bad things." So if they're gonna do juice, they'll hook up with a guy who they can say "convinced them" to do juice rather than say they wanted to juice. Same for any other drug; rec or otherwise. I think alot of them start hooking up with guys for it and as they get bigger and bigger end up hooking up with each other for it, eventually just basically going lesbian while still entertaining the occasional dick here or there on the side. The entire female IFBB division is turning lesbian on us right before our eyes; look around, there's a definite trend there unfolding. Interesting stuff.
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Good answers, guys.
gh15,
What dose do these women go up to? Do the go up to a gram a week? What compounds is most popular for a woman getting ready for say...the Ms. Olympia?
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gh15 makes some excellent points. Most women I know who use gear don't buy their gear. They shack up or fuck a dude who sells it on the side. EVERY girl I know who uses growth or gear(winstrol, primobolan, deca,) date or fuck a local BB dude who nickles/dime it.
No doubt.
Who would agree that a girl rarely starts taking hormones without having a BF who sort of pushes her or "suggests" to her to try drugs?
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Chicks need guys to "make them do bad things." So if they're gonna do juice, they'll hook up with a guy who they can say "convinced them" to do juice rather than say they wanted to juice. If they're not doing this, they're very likey lesbian. Same for any other drug; rec or otherwise.
I think all women are LESBIANS anyway. Every one of them.
I see what you're saying but nevertheless a girl who uses gear always slings their pussy to pay for their gear. Either blatantly or under disguise of a 'relationship'.
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No doubt.
Who would agree that a girl rarely starts taking hormones without having a BF who sort of pushes her or "suggests" to her to try drugs?
I'm telling you, if they just straight-up seek it out by themselves from their first cycle, they are lesbians. Girls that like boys know that their being a scapegoat (for anything) is their best quality.
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ms o ?? same exact doses guys us with relashion to size and lean muscle mass ofcourse,,1-2 grams a week is commong among big competetive females,,the products are everything and anythingn that will get you more muscular ,,more chizeled,,more hard etc etc everything and anything,,nicole bass for example and that china whore which were nothing to write home about were on everything from testosterone to halotestin and inbetween,,
they all start with anavar and nandrolone,,but it is never enough and within 12 months introduced to growth and more androgenic products and then the dianabol and promobolan and anavar become part of a big stack of controlled substances only possible to get from a a bodybuilder they live with or fuck
let me get you on a secret ,,but yu onever heard it from gh15 :),,,many competetive girls are crazy enough to the point they ask and look around for the old old 1980s growth made of dead people you know what...they want the real thing no syntetic nothing,,
if i told here everything that goes on behind closed doors your ears would fall off
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No doubt.
Who would agree that a girl rarely starts taking hormones without having a BF who sort of pushes her or "suggests" to her to try drugs?
I would.
The best part is these girls think that they are getting their gear from their man at..."what he pays for it". Hahahahahaha...bitch, please!
Usually he himself is a competitor or a wanabee BB. So if his lady competes he lives vicariously through her. Therefore he uses her as a science experiment and tries to dub himself her..."guru".
I know guys who accept a hummer as payment for 100 tabs of clen. It's all too common.
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I think all women are LESBIANS anyway. Every one of them.
I see what you're saying but nevertheless a girl who uses gear always slings their pussy to pay for their gear. Either blatantly or under disguise of a 'relationship'.
Yes, that's what I'm saying as well. But it goes one deeper than sex; it's the morality that must be maintained above all else. The girl will only try to see herself as "doing it for her guy" because she is good, not "doing it for herself" because she likes it as a bad girl would.
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i want to hear, my ears won't fall off
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you need in usa to go to ymca since its all good christians :D and simply take attendence of who didnt show up last 2-3 months ,,then look particularly on the girl list who didnt show up and you will find your users from a to z ,,trust me its 90% of gym goers that worth second look at physiqe wize,,what bodybuilding became is a joke
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let me get you on a secret ,,but yu onever heard it from gh15 :),,,many competetive girls are crazy enough to the point they ask and look around for the old old 1980s growth made of dead people you know what...they want the real thing no syntetic nothing,,
if i told here everything that goes on behind closed doors your ears would fall off
Do tell.
Christmas is the season for giving and sharing!
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Damn, I wish gh15 would come on BIG NATION. He's got my wheels turning.
So you're saying, gh15, that some of these nutty bitches would want the growth that was extracted from the pituitary glands of cadavers?
What extreme lengths have you seen some of these girls go for their kits of growth or their bottles of primobolan? I see giving head and ass to their suppliers. It sounds like some of these girls would sell their soul to the devil himself for their kits of serostim.
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i want to hear, my ears won't fall off
well they want cadavars tken out of dead people,,they want the old 192 gh ,,they feel its better,,many of them do especially in states like nevada usa ,,and thats when you have legit american gh available! ,,shows you how smart they are
narcotics use is also very common among fitness and bodybuilding females,,to a less degree among figure,,the narcotics is a problem,,in american in a state such as california floriad or ny you can actually see lots of narcotics available for this girls via their monthly fuck,,it is sickenning,,they cut on recreationals and this is simply sicknening ,,they put all bodybuilders at risk,,they are the cause of the bustings,,the internet sources on usa got fucked by thoser exact whores they fuck and moron boyfriend of them thast sell x in clubs and ghb in clubs to kids,,they are the ones who fucked you all! they fucked good guys and deserve to be in prison for good 30 yeasrs if you ask me
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Well, not to advertise or anything, but SPECIAL ED will be walking around the ARNOLD EXPO with a backpack full of SEROSTIM GH, CLEN, TREN, and RHESUS MONKEY CADAVERS for any hot fitness or figure girls looking for "assistance". Payment can be made in advance at the Hyatt (Room # to be revealed at a later date).
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well they want cadavars tken out of dead people,,they want the old 192 gh ,,they feel its better,,many of them do especially in states like nevada usa ,,and thats when you have legit american gh available! ,,shows you how smart they are
narcotics use is also very common among fitness and bodybuilding females,,to a less degree among figure,,the narcotics is a problem,,in american in a state such as california floriad or ny you can actually see lots of narcotics available for this girls via their monthly fuck,,it is sickenning,,they cut on recreationals and this is simply sicknening ,,they put all bodybuilders at risk,,they are the cause of the bustings,,the internet sources on usa got fucked by thoser exact whores they fuck and moron boyfriend of them thast sell x in clubs and ghb in clubs to kids,,they are the ones who fucked you all! they fucked good guys and deserve to be in prison for good 30 yeasrs if you ask me
That's just the direction it always goes, bro. It happens every time to a degree.
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WTF cadaveric GH??
You said "many" competitive girls; do male pros also seek this?
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why are females bodybuilding to begin with. they want to look like men? trannies?
i dont get it :D
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Damn, I wish gh15 would come on BIG NATION. He's got my wheels turning.
So you're saying, gh15, that some of these nutty bitches would want the growth that was extracted from the pituitary glands of cadavers?
What extreme lengths have you seen some of these girls go for their kits of growth or their bottles of primobolan? I see giving head and ass to their suppliers. It sounds like some of these girls would sell their soul to the devil himself for their kits of serostim.
well,, i dont like to involve myself with those whores but a 3sum with guys younger than them or a lot older than them,,usually 2 guys on a girl is common ,,gang bangs are very common,,,all for good ole american gh or the worse as i mentioned,,there is nothing really special about the sex they have because they in most cases had problems from young age that has nothing to do with hormones and has a lot to do with self esteem ,,but hey anyguy want 3 sum with a girl,,the best fantazy of a guy isd not being with 2 females but being fuckin her with 3 other guys and seeing her cumming even if she dont want to ,,especially if cocks are big,,it happens all the time among the "right" circles
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why are females bodybuilding to begin with. they want to look like men? trannies?
i dont get it :D
Maybe Freud would say something about "Penis Envy" :P
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well they want cadavars tken out of dead people,,they want the old 192 gh ,,they feel its better,,many of them do especially in states like nevada usa ,,and thats when you have legit american gh available! ,,shows you how smart they are
narcotics use is also very common among fitness and bodybuilding females,,to a less degree among figure,,the narcotics is a problem,,in american in a state such as california floriad or ny you can actually see lots of narcotics available for this girls via their monthly fuck,,it is sickenning,,they cut on recreationals and this is simply sicknening ,,they put all bodybuilders at risk,,they are the cause of the bustings,,the internet sources on usa got fucked by thoser exact whores they fuck and moron boyfriend of them thast sell x in clubs and ghb in clubs to kids,,they are the ones who fucked you all! they fucked good guys and deserve to be in prison for good 30 yeasrs if you ask me
Good point. I just thought that the first loser in the Mr. Olympia was doing his job as an informant. GOOD QUESTION!
Hey gh15,
In your educated opinion how may IFBB pros are working with the US government as an informant and what does this mean to other competitors?
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well,, i dont like to involve myself with those whores but a 3sum with guys younger than them or a lot older than them,,usually 2 guys on a girl is common ,,gang bangs are very common,,,all for good ole american gh or the worse as i mentioned,,there is nothing really special about the sex they have because they in most cases had problems from young age that has nothing to do with hormones and has a lot to do with self esteem ,,but hey anyguy want 3 sum with a girl,,the best fantazy of a guy isd not being with 2 females but being fuckin her with 3 other guys and seeing her cumming even if she dont want to ,,especially if cocks are big,,it happens all the time among the "right" circles
gh15 brings the lulls ;D
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informents? the usa goverment is not interested in hormones directly,,they interested in the so called hormone poweders that are in many cases rec drugs powders that came from china,,they are interested in bulk suppliers who use those poweders in unsterile conditions to posion americans youth,,the goverment want big stories and bodybuilding informents are not big stories unless they are recreationals dealers and those are the ones who have trouble with low and sheets from here to kurdistan,,,they are usually dead or in prison for other fellonies way before any informents come out about hormones,,
hormones are only controlled ,,what kills bodybuilding is underground powders that are not what they claim to be,,human grade never hurt any supplier of it directly,,strictly human grade suppliers were and alwys safe because they are PART OF BIG PHARMA
every bodybuilder that had problem with law has a bigger story than what you know about,,milos,,palumbo,,,all of them hav lots more behind their stories than just a vial of testosterone :D,,,people order daily in the 1000s every single day to the girlfriends momas house ,,or to places that are not on their name and get those 1 vials of testosterone human grade no problem,,
the goverment dont look for this,,anyone they look into is a big distributers of many things,,and sold them lots of goodies,,
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Women know their ass and mouth is just as good as a VISA credit card. Pussy is equal to CASH. It's a neverending bank account. ChaChing!
Classic! :D
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I'm telling you, if they just straight-up seek it out by themselves from their first cycle, they are lesbians. Girls that like boys know that their being a scapegoat (for anything) is their best quality.
On the money....
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I think the "real chick" in this photo-on the right for the record- is fuckin' HOT!
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GH15, some truth in this thread, but it's riddled with bullshit too...and you know this.
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arnold junior,,,nothing i said in this particular thread is riddled with bull,,i have yet to see one single female bodybuilder or fitness girl to be different not even the ones who like me and are in good terms with me
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THIS WILL BE GETBIG'S 2007 EPIC LIE, AGAIN, MELTHEAD WIN!
I know guys who accept a hummer as payment for 100 tabs of clen. It's all too common.
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arnold junior,,,nothing i said in this particular thread is riddled with bull,,i have yet to see one single female bodybuilder or fitness girl to be different not even the ones who like me and are in good terms with me
Well Mr.15, I know plenty of these women, I train some women who "use" some who don't, and in either case, the things said in this thread do not line up at all.
For example, I know plenty of women who buy their "stuff" just like anyone else would, using money, not ass. I also train a girl who competes in figure who has won shows completely naturally, so that's the 2nd thing that discredits this thread. Oh, and the cadaver thing...well, that's a bit of a stretch IMO. There is too much legit synthetic GH out there for people to need to take this route any more. Sure, some still do, but they are few and far between.
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Yep this is a stretch of a thread I'm sure it fits some women but not near to all of them. I can bet the top Miss O comps do take doses similar to a serious NPC competitor with test in the mix thats for sure.
I thought for sure that the human cadaver gh has been outlawed a while ago because of a disease you can get from taking it.
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Yep this is a stretch of a thread I'm sure it fits some women but not near to all of them. I can bet the top Miss O comps do take doses similar to a serious NPC competitor with test in the mix thats for sure.
I thought for sure that the human cadaver gh has been outlawed a while ago because of a disease you can get from taking it.
It has been outlawed but I'm sure there are a few who still get it that way. Even so, doing so would not make much sense at all. Not when you can buy effective synthetic GH and not have to worry about disease or infection.
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It has been outlawed but I'm sure there are a few who still get it that way. Even so, doing so would not make much sense at all. Not when you can buy effective synthetic GH and not have to worry about disease or infection.
I just wonder how they would get it? I honestly dont think it is available. I maybe wrong but i really dont think it is being "collected" But your right maybe from counties outside the US?
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I just wonder how they would get it? I honestly dont think it is available. I maybe wrong but i really dont think it is being "collected" But your right maybe from counties outside the US?
Well according to GH15, AKA "The Prophet of Gear", all you have to do is drop to your knees and you can get anything. ::)
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I found it funny he complained that his posts were being moved here. It is where they belong. But he must like a bigger audience. I have from a very reliable source who the cat is too. He is a pro BB but not one you would probally know unless you really closely followed Pro BB for a while. I was told his name but forgot cause to be honest never heard of him. Hes European and has not comped in a long while, not a top 10 guy in US comp, but Im sure he was good to turn pro.
This whole thing lately with him seems slighty goofy. My guess is he or friends are not happy with a shipment from XL that they did or did not recieve. Some of the guys advice is pretty good but like anything else you gotta sift through to find the good stuff.
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I found it funny he complained that his posts were being moved here. It is where they belong. But he must like a bigger audience. I have from a very reliable source who the cat is too. He is a pro BB but not one you would probally know unless you really closely followed Pro BB for a while. I was told his name but forgot cause to be honest never heard of him. Hes European and has not comped in a long while, not a top 10 guy in US comp, but Im sure he was good to turn pro.
This whole thing lately with him seems slighty goofy. My guess is he or friends are not happy with a shipment from XL that they did or did not recieve. Some of the guys advice is pretty good but like anything else you gotta sift through to find the good stuff.
Give me a break. If you know who he his, spill the beans or shut up.
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Give me a break. If you know who he his, spill the beans or shut up.
Like I said forgot the guys name, it really didnt seem like that a big a deal to me, what i posted is all I remember. And if I did remember out of respect for the guys annonimity would not post it in the open, or to tuff guys who tell me to shut up on a message board.
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well the common thought is that he is roland c ( wont even attempt to spell last name ) top physique if it is...
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I thought you could get only 2 or 3 IUs out of a corpse,and the body had to be male and fresh.
Does anybody remember hearing anything in the news about this 25 years ago?
Must have been a good horror story!
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I just wonder how they would get it? I honestly dont think it is available. I maybe wrong but i really dont think it is being "collected" But your right maybe from counties outside the US?
There was a product I saw a few years ago, Somatropinum Humanum, out of Lithuania I think. Human cadaveric GH. I know some who used it - would never touch it myself!
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There was a product I saw a few years ago, Somatropinum Humanum, out of Lithuania I think. Human cadaveric GH. I know some who used it - would never touch it myself!
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Yeah me either
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00000563.htm