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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: MattT on December 29, 2007, 07:24:11 PM
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I know if flex wanted to come back and compete in IFBB shows again he would be top 3 at the Mr O again.
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love those fake doors
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Not hating but besides the arms, there's nothing impressive about that physique.
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looks like shit. That right there just goes to show you he was all drugs.
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Yeah but he's all natural ::)
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what's with those arms?
they look kind of soft but massive. like they're bloated with something?
he obviously knows they're an asset because he's always wearing shirts like that one (little sister's t), but i'm sincerely curious as to if those arms are genuine or not. hey, can you blame me with all the valvolino type fuckwits running around?
i remember, out of every single pro i ever saw, i always thought ken's arms looked the best. big round full muscle bellies with small joints is hard to beat. looked like he had basket balls in those limbs. ;D
i doubt ken will come back. he would be sorely tempted but, as he alluded to at the o, when you have blatantly corrupt judging denying competitors who had made so many sacrifices only to get ripped off, why would he put his body and organs through all that abuse again?
i really can see why he gets pissed at this and i admire him for it (in fact, my respect for flex shot up big time when i saw him calling bs at the show). if more guys in the industry had the balls to stand up like flex did, we probably wouldn't be seeing this shit. let's see what transpires at the arnold...
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good arms....
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Not hating but besides the arms, there's nothing impressive about that physique.
bump
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looks like shit. That right there just goes to show you he was all drugs.
he looks far better than you ever dreamed you could look like you pasty little pommy wanker.
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pure - potent - grug-free ............ lmao
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pure - potent - grug-free ............ lmao
They forgot- "Kidney free". :-\
Seriously, the fucking nerve....
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he looks far better than you ever dreamed you could look like you pasty little pommy wanker.
Nope, Flex was nothing but drugs. He didn't even like or enjoy lifting weights.
Plus, Flex is bald, uneducated, has kidney disease, and possibly more unknown health issues due to years of drug abuse.
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Nope, Flex was nothing but drugs. He didn't even like or enjoy lifting weights.
Plus, Flex is bald, uneducated, has kidney disease, and possibly more unknown health issues due to years of drug abuse.
that shit isnt true. when it comes to knowing the tricks of the trade...whether it be from diet, to weight training, to dialing in for a show...flex was a complete mastermind. now i will give it to you that flex wasnt the most dedicated when it came to being "hardcore" and in the lifestyle year round....but he didnt have to be. he was one of the most genetically gifted bodybuilders of all time.
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. when it comes to knowing the tricks of the trade...whether it be from diet, to weight training, to dialing in for a show...flex was a complete mastermind.
That = horseshit from a to z.
Read his book.
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That = horseshit from a to z.
Read his book.
i agree, it was with the help of drugs....... mastermind, lmao
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that shit isnt true. when it comes to knowing the tricks of the trade...whether it be from diet, to weight training, to dialing in for a show...flex was a complete mastermind. now i will give it to you that flex wasnt the most dedicated when it came to being "hardcore" and in the lifestyle year round....but he didnt have to be. he was one of the most genetically gifted bodybuilders of all time.
if this picture is what good genetics is,,,then fuck genetics like you say it in america suits it
loads of drugs,,loads of lies,,gentle looking physiqe that had no power to it and no true strength to it,,it was illusion at its best that held no candle when was deflated of high doses and products,,when decided to do the o less drugs aka no duretics,...you saw where he ended up,,there is no bodybuilder with out drugs not amatuer and not professional as of 1960
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what should a natural be taking in your estimation to be able rule the world?
I don't plan on wearing a shirt this summer :)
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naturals are alwys on oxandrolone winstrol test prop and and many other short esters,,thats competetive naturals,,the higher level ones are on gh and insulin on regulr basis too
eveyrday naturals that dont compete are on test and dianabol or test and eq or test and halo,,test is the base culprite for a natural since it is....natural
there are no bodies that worth second look at even at your local gymnazium that are natural or even clean to that matter,,they all hormonized to some degree,,usually constant use of hormones for years
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naturals are alwys on oxandrolone winstrol test prop and and many other short esters,,thats competetive naturals,,the higher level ones are on gh and insulin on regulr basis too
eveyrday naturals that dont compete are on test and dianabol or test and eq or test and halo,,test is the base culprite for a natural since it is....natural
there are no bodies that worth second look at even at your local gymnazium that are natural or even clean to that matter,,they all hormonized to some degree,,usually constant use of hormones for years
ummm..I was expecting something like Vitargo + Whey + Creatine + EAA + Beta Alanine
I haven't taken any supplements in 3 months..I haven't lost any size but I am feeling weaker
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Flex will NEVER take off his shirt without being on a lot of hormones. All he has now is oil bags for "arms".
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i love how the key board warriors, who haven't dieted for so much as mr kindergarton, are commenting on how easy it was for flex to shred for contests. classic...
btw, gh 15, how many pro contests have you won? where did you place at the olympia or arnold classic???....
oh shit, that's right, you have not even competed in either and are likely to not even be a pro bber...but, hey at least you're the main drug info guy at getbig.com... ::)
no doubt your mom can't stop boasting about you to all her friends.
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Wheeler's an odd sort, his Jesus-freakery and all.
However, the all-drugs-or-not-all-drugs argument is tired and tiresome. There can be no level playing field, ya do what ya can.
Drugs or no drugs, Wheeler looked like an ant. To me, looking at a human being and thinking Jesus H. Christ! is the true essence of bodybuilding. It's a circus, it's an illusion. We all know men were never meant to look like that in the real world, so to get into a debate about the rights or wrongs of megadosing or dosing at all, it's foolish.
Time people quit equating BB (as distinct from simple weight training) with being a health or fitness freak. That's just marketing for the uninitiated, unwary supps customer.
How you get there ain't the issue, it's what you look like on that stage, be it the Olympia, the amateur NABBA, or the rinkydink show in your hometown.
People poked fun at Michael Johnson's running style. He still crossed that line before they did.
TNBT
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Wheeler's an odd sort, his Jesus-freakery and all.
However, the all-drugs-or-not-all-drugs argument is tired and tiresome. There can be no level playing field, ya do what ya can.
Drugs or no drugs, Wheeler looked like an ant. To me, looking at a human being and thinking Jesus H. Christ! is the true essence of bodybuilding. It's a circus, it's an illusion. We all know human beings were never meant to look like that in the real world, so to get into a debate about the rights or wrongs of megadosing or dosing at all, it's foolish.
Time everyone quote equating it with being a health or fitness freak. That's just marketing for the uninitiated, unwary supps customer.
How you get there ain't the issue, it's what you look like on that stage, be it the Olympia, the amateur NABBA, or the rinkydink show in your hometown.
People poked fun at Michael Johnson's running style. He still crossed that line before they did.
TNBT
Whatever happened to "pillowtalk"? You guys were going to take over the world.
FWIW, Flex should be punched right in the eye if he is using on someone elses kidney. >:(
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Whatever happened to "pillowtalk"? You guys were going to take over the world.
FWIW, Flex should be punched right in the eye if he is using on someone elses kidney. >:(
Hey there Chaos. How's shit out in the California sun? Freezing here, literally.
Pillowtalk I got a mail from recently. He's still floating between England and Portugal, he's on a clean-living kick right now.
As for Wheeler abusing a donor kidney, I dunno if that's true, but he'll be fucked for it in the press. You heard of a soccer player named George Best? He drank his way through two livers ::)
TNBT
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Whatever happened to "pillowtalk"? You guys were going to take over the world.
FWIW, Flex should be punched right in the eye if he is using on someone elses kidney. >:(
just taking a look at his face and physique, the guy is maybe using a bit of hrt at best.
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Hey there Chaos. How's shit out in the California sun? Freezing here, literally.
TNBT
Actually kind of chilly, 60 degrees today. ;D
I have to wear a jacket when I ride. :(
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i love how the key board warriors, who haven't dieted for so much as mr kindergarton, are commenting on how easy it was for flex to shred for contests. classic...
btw, gh 15, how many pro contests have you won? where did you place at the olympia or arnold classic???....
oh shit, that's right, you have not even competed in either and are likely to not even be a pro bber...but, hey at least you're the main drug info guy at getbig.com... ::)
no doubt your mom can't stop boasting about you to all her friends.
i am god not only a professional bodybuilder,,i am god of hormones,,see the amount of oil still ciculating in the arms and body of poor ken is what still make him look like anything average,,,since his physiqe is worse than a 2 year gym rat,,dont sell those kids bullcrap,,he is what he is A DRUG ADDICT that counted on drugs inorder to build illusion and not even strong one,,yes he placed wll even against me but it had nothing to do with natural or clean,,the guy is one of the worst if not the worst liar in bodybuilding hisory at the least top 5 worst liars and he pay heavy price facing reality in every day he breath since then
having nice bellies of muscle with enourmouns usage of drugs including narcotics on regular basis doesnt mean you meant to be a champ! he was no champ he was illusion and worst of all a liar UNLIKE kevin which was almost always true in close circles and respected for that
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i am god not only a professional bodybuilder,,i am god of hormones,,see the amount of oil still ciculating in the arms and body of poor ken is what still make him look like anything average,,,since his physiqe is worse than a 2 year gym rat,,dont sell those kids bullcrap,,he is what he is A DRUG ADDICT that counted on drugs inorder to build illusion and not even strong one,,yes he placed wll even against me but it had nothing to do with natural or clean,,the guy is one of the worst if not the worst liar in bodybuilding hisory at the least top 5 worst liars and he pay heavy price facing reality in every day he breath since then
having nice bellies of muscle with enourmouns usage of drugs including narcotics on regular basis doesnt mean you meant to be a champ! he was no champ he was illusion and worst of all a liar UNLIKE kevin which was almost always true in close circles and respected for that
Once again, gh15 makes himself sound like the most important person on the internet.
In reality, he is just a used up wanna-be bodybuilder that uses the steroid bible to dish out advice. ::)
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Once again, gh15 makes himself sound like the most important person on the internet.
In reality, he is just a used up wanna-be bodybuilder that uses the steroid bible to dish out advice. ::)
only thing yuo need to know is this,,1. stay away from milos 2. stay away from ,,,you got the right MILOS
dark days come upon that group wether is this time or not ,,wether wolf win o or not ,,,dark days come upon this group
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only thing yuo need to know is this,,1. stay away from milos 2. stay away from ,,,you got the right MILOS
dark days come upon that group wether is this time or not ,,wether wolf win o or not ,,,dark days come upon this group
And if I don't? What is wrong with Milos? Are you saying that you have inside info that only a snitch like you would have?
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that shit isnt true. when it comes to knowing the tricks of the trade...whether it be from diet, to weight training, to dialing in for a show...flex was a complete mastermind. now i will give it to you that flex wasnt the most dedicated when it came to being "hardcore" and in the lifestyle year round....but he didnt have to be. he was one of the most genetically gifted bodybuilders of all time.
How the fuck would you know? You don't have a clue what his daily routine was you moron...Only what you read in magazines. You are 19 you were a little kid when Flex was in his Prime. ::)
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And if I don't? What is wrong with Milos? Are you saying that you have inside info that only a snitch like you would have?
narcotics is not snitch,,narcotics is a whole diff ball gme,,narcotics as in painkillers and recrational drugs in general is not snitch it is garbage that ned getting rid off,,now gh15 is aware of the past crimes and probations 50-70% of board members of bodybuilding have BUT NOT TO FORGET! you want to keep out of trouble ,,you want to keep yoruself far from this type of drugs and you want to keep yoruself far from the people who surround them and those people are a good part of bodybuilding industry as of today and i suggest you to stay away,,
you can take gh15 advice or not,,i suggest you take it for the sake of you and other people,,it has nothing to do with snitch and narc or narcsiem lit has a lot to do with the fact that behind the screen both you and i know (see i said i not me as in proper english),,,both you and i know that you are a good guy and want to stay out of troubles,,you dont want no problems and you dont need them upon yourself,,,let the fellons who really have anything else to gain money from do this things,,
bodybuilding must get clean inorder not to be erased as sport and minimized as indutry to a fly size,,we are in big deep trouble time,,and we need to kick all the narcotics dealers out of this sport,,again it will follow by actuion of the ifbb but the machine is somewhat slower than gh15 ,,you just need to keep your clean ass out of trouble and dont involve yourself with this because lives are being destroyed and not for vial of testosterone,,
bodybuilding should get cleaned to what it used to be and it is hormone use ,,human grade hormone use nd only that,,back to the 50s-60s-70s with out the rec drugs as major part of it,,it got to go back to this time inorder to survive the next 5 years and to get hormone to an uncontrolled state with limited personal individual supply from pharmacies in your place of the globe,,trust me gh15 knows what he/she talking about
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How the fuck would you know? You don't have a clue what his daily routine was you moron...Only what you read in magazines. You are 19 you were a little kid when Flex was in his Prime. ::)
that's like when some arm chair quarter tells you about a team no having chemistry...or a player is not good in the club house ::)
now dizzle is telling us that Flex wasn't hardcore enough..lol..they have never even been in the same State at the same time. Yet he knows his most intimate training techniques ::)
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narcotics is not snitch,,narcotics is a whole diff ball gme,,narcotics as in painkillers and recrational drugs in general is not snitch it is garbage that ned getting rid off,,now gh15 is aware of the past crimes and probations 50-70% of board members of bodybuilding have BUT NOT TO FORGET! you want to keep out of trouble ,,you want to keep yoruself far from this type of drugs and you want to keep yoruself far from the people who surround them and those people are a good part of bodybuilding industry as of today and i suggest you to stay away,,
you can take gh15 advice or not,,i suggest you take it for the sake of you and other people,,it has nothing to do with snitch and narc or narcsiem lit has a lot to do with the fact that behind the screen both you and i know (see i said i not me as in proper english),,,both you and i know that you are a good guy and want to stay out of troubles,,you dont want no problems and you dont need them upon yourself,,,let the fellons who really have anything else to gain money from do this things,,
bodybuilding must get clean inorder not to be erased as sport and minimized as indutry to a fly size,,we are in big deep trouble time,,and we need to kick all the narcotics dealers out of this sport,,again it will follow by actuion of the ifbb but the machine is somewhat slower than gh15 ,,you just need to keep your clean ass out of trouble and dont involve yourself with this because lives are being destroyed and not for vial of testosterone,,
bodybuilding should get cleaned to what it used to be and it is hormone use ,,human grade hormone use nd only that,,back to the 50s-60s-70s with out the rec drugs as major part of it,,it got to go back to this time inorder to survive the next 5 years and to get hormone to an uncontrolled state with limited personal individual supply from pharmacies in your place of the globe,,trust me gh15 knows what he/she talking about
From the few parts I can understand I can say this.....I don't use....anything, steroids or recs. I don't deal steroids or recs. Therefore, I have nothing to worry about :-*
As far as my past probations and violations of the law, you need not worry about those, gh15, none of them involved drugs of any kind.
In short, I don't see how being a member of Koloseum gym is going to get me in trouble. I mean, are they going to bust the little old lady on the stairstepper for talking to Milos as well?
WTF, dude, gh15, get over yourself man, you really don't know what you think you know. ;)
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caos my friend since i like you a lot i will tell you something here you can read it or not wont mater to me much but i will say it here under this and put it in formula so it is easy to digest with some brain
marion jons 5 gold medal winner in shame corrupt confused lied and will face trial for lying not using aslso a user of rec drugs,,
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balco and victor from usa and their slaves as in personal trainer around usa in shame and been and are in jail and prison in usa all with criminal records and files with more than the clear ad the cream as in rec drugs!
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barry bonds deepen in troubles and lies to us goverment again not for use but for lies and covering of other illegal activities involving rec drugs not only hormones will stand trial and get a plea deal or lose and sit a year in prison and or heavy fine btu in deep trouble never the less
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major basball leage in us grounds under severe investigation for hormone use and recreational drugs use in the bulk as in cheting in sports and lieing to the american public ,,lots of prison time and heavy fines will come out of this one for few people in that leage
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lots of eyes been and now 10 times hardr looking into bodybuilding mainly the bodybuilders who known from past criminal activities and probations
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operation 2007 cleaning the usa ground from junk garbage posion chinease made recreational shit in 90% of cases,,this part is done for 2-3 years of investigation and taken out 100% of the criminals who were menat to be taken out ,,most of the ones who stayed staye dfor a reason ,,,they are human grade and only human grade with minority of ones who were small enogh to not even look at,,
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hide as an example of a bodybuilder known to use rec drugs getting busted in airport and his a known criminal now that will be good boy for many years to come but is linking connection to bigger fish
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koloseum gym wil be major investiagtion tool or interest and i syggest any one take distance whille they can from the people i mentioned from palumbo to milos to valentino and those type of shadey characters,,
milos has connection to many of the above and alot more than gh15 tell here,,gh15 want the normal personal user of hormones to stay safe and safe is as far as possible from the people gh15 mentioned,,doesnt mean yoy should not talk to them or train there,,but do yourself a favor and stay away,,unless you already on probation and know the drill since many in industry are indeed criminals and what i say here dont phase them
i wrote it all for you huny bunny,,
take care
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why don't you just type in unbroken english so people can understand you better?
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Gh15, I know english isn't your first language, so I'll type this real slow.....
I D O N ' T U S E S T E R O I DS.....I don't care what the government does or does not do to steroids users, I am not one of them.
So all the chinese rec junk shit underground crap poopy stinkpants stuff you just wrote about, doesn't apply to me. Because I talk to some people at the gym, doesn't make me guilty or an accessory. The gov can look at me all they want, I am a decent, hard working American, they won't find a thing. I will continue on my path.
Unless of course you can point me to one instance where you have been right on the money, with a name/place/event that you predicted would go down. :D
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well you want predictions,,ok
i predict milos will get a visit ,,i predict palumbo will get a visit,,i predict anyone who ever come incontsact with mr jap and the such of mr conseco among professional bodybuilders and amatuers bodybuilders will get a visit that include you derek,,
the visit may not be in a week but itwill come,,now that dont mean mr caos use hormones ,,HORMONES IS NOT THE KEY HERE,,you guys sitting in america dont understand your goverment nail you for NARCOTICS for recreational drugs for ghb painkiller and the such more than for vial of test,,they get you for distribution of hormones and recrationals,,that doent mean caos is using them or disributing them it has nothing to do with caos but you dont want to be in a place where the american feds come for a visit,,
american feds dont come for a visit unles it is serious ,,they dont play with poopoop,,,american feds come to visit you when there is a big reason to do it,,and its not a 500$ order of testosterone vial,,they dont even pee on those things,,they come for big fish and small fish dont want to be there even if innocent and by standard,,
this is how it is if you are from usa friend
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well you want predictions,,ok
i predict milos will get a visit ,,i predict palumbo will get a visit,,i predict anyone who ever come incontsact with mr jap and the such of mr conseco among professional bodybuilders and amatuers bodybuilders will get a visit that include you derek,,
the visit may not be in a week but itwill come,,now that dont mean mr caos use hormones ,,HORMONES IS NOT THE KEY HERE,,you guys sitting in america dont understand your goverment nail you for NARCOTICS for recreational drugs for ghb painkiller and the such more than for vial of test,,they get you for distribution of hormones and recrationals,,that doent mean caos is using them or disributing them it has nothing to do with caos but you dont want to be in a place where the american feds come for a visit,,
american feds dont come for a visit unles it is serious ,,they dont play with poopoop,,,american feds come to visit you when there is a big reason to do it,,and its not a 500$ order of testosterone vial,,they dont even pee on those things,,they come for big fish and small fish dont want to be there even if innocent and by standard,,
this is how it is if you are from usa friend
If the feds were to come and visit while I was there, do you think this would be the first time Chaos was at a crime scene? ;D
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the chineese gh jintoropin was mostlly fake the past 18 months so many guys in my gym who are now forced to get US made stuff because jintropin is not around easy are now finally seeing results from using GH, funny thing is because now they are paying 12-15an IU they can only do 2iu's a day and with 2iu's they seeing better results then the 6+ IU of jintropin
As far as flex goes he became this big moody crazy sounding person, almost like a women going thru menapause
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hey gh15, since milos hasn't written anything on this board lately, you suggesting this has something to do with hide's bust?
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i think gh might be a teeny bit paranoid... :-\
gh, flex wheeler was one of the greatest bodybuilders of all time any way you want to cut it. he's proved it in real competition (as opposed to fantasy key board land) and the mere fact you know anything at all about this great champion is more a testament to his honesty than anything.
how much do you know about dorian's/ronnie's/haney's or arnold's cycles, etc??? exactly... ;)
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I wonder why Milos doesn't post lately.....
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brutal bicep push to appear them look bigger.
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brutal bicep push to appear them look bigger.
+ doberman ears from all the gh use
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he looks far better than you ever dreamed you could look like you pasty little pommy wanker.
SF just PM'd me and said he'd never want to look like any African-American.
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is flex still married to that madeline chick?
she was pretty hot back in the day.
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is flex still married to that madeline chick?
she was pretty hot back in the day.
ive seen youth pics of you and all i can say, you were quiet the stud back then.
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ive seen youth pics of you and all i can say, you were quiet the stud back then.
thanks Mars. you were quite the stud yourself back then.
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that shit isnt true. when it comes to knowing the tricks of the trade...whether it be from diet, to weight training, to dialing in for a show...flex was a complete mastermind. now i will give it to you that flex wasnt the most dedicated when it came to being "hardcore" and in the lifestyle year round....but he didnt have to be. he was one of the most genetically gifted bodybuilders of all time.
you're a young guy so I'll give you a pass on this one but that post is the biggest load of bullshit ever. Flex was nothing but an also ran when he was an amatuer until he hooked up with Joe McNiel, then it was charles glass and chris aceto, then shawn ray helped him out...he always had a "team" around him when ever he was succesful. He stated that once he retired he'd never even train again. IMO he hated it and the only reason he did it was because it was basically easy money for him. There's a BFTO segment where he's practically falling asleep while he's training bi's.....and people wonder why he couldn't beat Ronnie once Ronnie got his shit together. He blew a ton of shows as a pro, shoulda been mr. o but he always found a way to cheat on his diet or something and blow it at the O....
now he's a "natural freak" and he's "myostatin negative" ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)....whatever. He swore up and down he was natty at the 02 olympia and later admitted he was on stuff.....he's a liar and as a natural guy it just pisses me off. I could care less if he uses everything under the sun to get huge just don't claim to be natural. Man up and admit to what your doing for once.
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i am god not only a professional bodybuilder,,i am god of hormones
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at least he is humble and modest
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at least he is humble and modest
Planet Nibiru!!!!
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I know if flex wanted to come back and compete in IFBB shows again he would be top 3 at the Mr O again.
Epic tucking the hands under the biceps to make them look bigger.
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you're a young guy so I'll give you a pass on this one but that post is the biggest load of bullshit ever. Flex was nothing but an also ran when he was an amatuer until he hooked up with Joe McNiel, then it was charles glass and chris aceto, then shawn ray helped him out...he always had a "team" around him when ever he was succesful. He stated that once he retired he'd never even train again. IMO he hated it and the only reason he did it was because it was basically easy money for him. There's a BFTO segment where he's practically falling asleep while he's training bi's.....and people wonder why he couldn't beat Ronnie once Ronnie got his shit together. He blew a ton of shows as a pro, shoulda been mr. o but he always found a way to cheat on his diet or something and blow it at the O....
now he's a "natural freak" and he's "myostatin negative" ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)....whatever. He swore up and down he was natty at the 02 olympia and later admitted he was on stuff.....he's a liar and as a natural guy it just pisses me off. I could care less if he uses everything under the sun to get huge just don't claim to be natural. Man up and admit to what your doing for once.
in the AMatuers Flex was always touted as "The One". He was beat by Matarazzo at the 1991 USA and then I believe by Levrone at the 1991 Nats. He was working with Joe McNeil and Charles Glass in 1992. ANd Won, of course his shape is like none other. His workout partners were Rico and Chris Cormier, and you know Chris is no slouch in the gym, so, why would Flex hook up with a dude who is a beast in the gym? And Chris has never said Flex was a punk when it came to lifting weights.
True it was easy money, because the dude had the genetics, but he could not win the Mr. O, he was not a freak like Dorian. He trained with Shawn Ray and Levrone, which lit a fire under his ass, because those were his main competitors. It was also a throwback to the old skool days of competitors training together. Yeah, I remember that BFTO 98, some say it was the GH, which supposedly makes you sleepy :-\, I wouldn't know. But in 2002, I have his road to the Mr. O vid (Redemption or something like that)..He stated that his test levels were so low that he had to be on test. He went back on Steroids for the 2003 Ironmman, and he was reemed out by a woman at church, which is why he quit...That pissed me off as well.
I think his arms are just soft, nothing in them, he said that Synthol was the worst thing he ever did, and it wasn't worth it. Flex has always been know as a "gun slinger", so if can't train anything else, let it be the arms.
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Epic tucking the hands under the biceps to make them look bigger.
Exactly, without the oil bags he would have nothing currently, just a very narrow and flat chested guy. That's not to say he wasn't once an amazing bodybuilder but he won't unveil this natural wonder physique any time soon. "Will he compete gain?" the ad asks. The answer is no, wont even take off the shirt.
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that shit isnt true. when it comes to knowing the tricks of the trade...whether it be from diet, to weight training, to dialing in for a show...flex was a complete mastermind. now i will give it to you that flex wasnt the most dedicated when it came to being "hardcore" and in the lifestyle year round....but he didnt have to be. he was one of the most genetically gifted bodybuilders of all time.
You're a moron. He was skinny as hell until he started juicing at 18. He just responded. Now that he is on HRT, pumped arms up with synthol and his metabolism has slowed he has some decent natural size.
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Come Flex would never step back on stage with those tats. The tat goes from arm, over his shoulders to his other arm. They would cover up his arms and back detail, keep dreaming for him to come back. It's sad that we want Shawn Ray Flex Wheeler, and Kev to come back, it shows the current stat of the current crop of bbers...thee line up is very weak, with a less than dominant Mr. O.
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Not hating but besides the arms, there's nothing impressive about that physique.
um! Arms are the only things you can see in the pics. So, tell me why you say that???
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those awesome arms are scarred for life :-\
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If the feds were to come and visit while I was there, do you think this would be the first time Chaos was at a crime scene? ;D
wow you re so hardcore.
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in the AMatuers Flex was always touted as "The One". He was beat by Matarazzo at the 1991 USA and then I believe by Levrone at the 1991 Nats. He was working with Joe McNeil and Charles Glass in 1992. ANd Won, of course his shape is like none other. His workout partners were Rico and Chris Cormier, and you know Chris is no slouch in the gym, so, why would Flex hook up with a dude who is a beast in the gym? And Chris has never said Flex was a punk when it came to lifting weights.
True it was easy money, because the dude had the genetics, but he could not win the Mr. O, he was not a freak like Dorian. He trained with Shawn Ray and Levrone, which lit a fire under his ass, because those were his main competitors. It was also a throwback to the old skool days of competitors training together. Yeah, I remember that BFTO 98, some say it was the GH, which supposedly makes you sleepy :-\, I wouldn't know. But in 2002, I have his road to the Mr. O vid (Redemption or something like that)..He stated that his test levels were so low that he had to be on test. He went back on Steroids for the 2003 Ironmman, and he was reemed out by a woman at church, which is why he quit...That pissed me off as well.
I think his arms are just soft, nothing in them, he said that Synthol was the worst thing he ever did, and it wasn't worth it. Flex has always been know as a "gun slinger", so if can't train anything else, let it be the arms.
the only thing I'll commment on is him using roids cause of his low test levels....that's his own damn fault and he still shouldn't have been touting himself as a natural guy and I really do doubt he's natural now....once a cheater always a cheater..and no I don't think guys who use roids are cheaters I think guys who say they don't use roids but use them are cheaters.
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cant see shit threw those tattoos.. i am a huge wheeler fans.. but, what ever great arms he ad are completely cover in ink..why?!?!?!
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um! Arms are the only things you can see in the pics. So, tell me why you say that???
he has nothing today,,not even arms,,those are still oils ciculating 5-10 years later and may be like that for another 5-10 years,,the tatoos are cover up for him cant accsepting the lose of muscle due to the inability to hormonize like a horse and like any other top competitor and many gym rats,,he is not even at the level of a decent gym rat which is also on everything,,
the key word is ,,KEN WAS AND IS NOTHING WITH OUT THE MEGA DOSE USE OF HORMONES AS IN EVERY SINGLE DAY INJECTS AND TABLETS,,PERIOD
he will never step on stage againd because he cant,,you dont spit in gods face twice,,lied ,,cheated,,was and is lazy,,and cant even place last on bb stage now days even though most likley on hrt and shoudnt due to kidnys,,i say if he is on any hormones he is insane
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he has nothing today,,not even arms,,those are still oils ciculating 5-10 years later and may be like that for another 5-10 years,,the tatoos are cover up for him cant accsepting the lose of muscle due to the inability to hormonize like a horse and like any other top competitor and many gym rats,,he is not even at the level of a decent gym rat which is also on everything,,
the key word is ,,KEN WAS AND IS NOTHING WITH OUT THE MEGA DOSE USE OF HORMONES AS IN EVERY SINGLE DAY INJECTS AND TABLETS,,PERIOD
he will never step on stage againd because he cant,,you dont spit in gods face twice,,lied ,,cheated,,was and is lazy,,and cant even place last on bb stage now days even though most likley on hrt and shoudnt due to kidnys,,i say if he is on any hormones he is insane
when you say oil from 5-10 years ago are you saying this stuff stays in the muscle for that long? that's crazy if it's true...
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I know if flex wanted to come back and compete in IFBB shows again he would be top 3 at the Mr O again.
What in the World are you thinking?
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when you say oil from 5-10 years ago are you saying this stuff stays in the muscle for that long? that's crazy if it's true...
ummmm let me sound like the 12 year old girl they want me to be and say ,,,,ummmmm like um DUHH
this oil is in you for long long time breaking apart slowly and in most cases shorten your life if done in very heavy doses,,so you can take off 5 years from kin life and 5 years from jason life and 5 years from vic life ands 10+ from valentino life but valentino is no bodybuilder or never had any bodybuilding in him so it doesnt matter but the common thing between them is ALL OIL not only drugs but OILS YOU KOW LIKE THE ONE YOU GO SEE IN YOUR KITCHEN ,,THE CANOLA OIL YOU FRY YOUR FRIES IN OR OLIVE OIL ,,GRAPE SEED OIL ETC ETC ETC THAT THRE GARBAGE UNDERGROUND LAB MIX THEIR FAKE SEVERLY UNDERDOSED HORMONES IN
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ummmm let me sound like the 12 year old girl they want me to be and say ,,,,ummmmm like um DUHH
this oil is in you for long long time breaking apart slowly and in most cases shorten your life if done in very heavy doses,,so you can take off 5 years from kin life and 5 years from jason life and 5 years from vic life ands 10+ from valentino life but valentino is no bodybuilder or never had any bodybuilding in him so it doesnt matter but the common thing between them is ALL OIL not only drugs but OILS YOU KOW LIKE THE ONE YOU GO SEE IN YOUR KITCHEN ,,THE CANOLA OIL YOU FRY YOUR FRIES IN OR OLIVE OIL ,,GRAPE SEED OIL ETC ETC ETC THAT THRE GARBAGE UNDERGROUND LAB MIX THEIR FAKE SEVERLY UNDERDOSED HORMONES IN
So how many years can we take away from gh15`s life???? And what kind of oil do you have in your arms delts calvs..................
I mean Jason is numero uno and Vic is the runner up and who ever you are you are on the stage chasing them am I right????
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wow you re so hardcore.
I chew barbed wire and shit 10 penny nails. >:(
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I chew barbed wire and shit 10 penny nails. >:(
Do you do that post workout?
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Exactly, without the oil bags he would have nothing currently, just a very narrow and flat chested guy. That's not to say he wasn't once an amazing bodybuilder but he won't unveil this natural wonder physique any time soon. "Will he compete gain?" the ad asks. The answer is no, wont even take off the shirt.
exactly------just look at his non existant traps
he has admitted to pumping synthol in his arms so its no wonder thats the only thing that still looks like muscle on his body
What a piece of shit supplement company to have one of the most juiced out BBer's who blew out a kidney and then claim him as a "natural" freak!!!!!!! That is just insulting to thier customers-----this company is a joke!!!!
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stupid tatoos...
flex is a great bber but like nd or england said he never liked it...
in contrast to coleman he was such a crybaby.. ninjas.. car crashes.. fights with shawn u name it...
syntal .. calf impants...
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and i did read in an old compy pf flex there was a question when u stop competeing how many rs will u train.. while everyone else answered ..maybe half most people said it wouldnt change
flex said "thats easy it will be zero" thats shows he had no love for training,... and you could tell from his bfto segments.. its like someone was begging him to train... he was toooo arrogant...
now he has messed up,his kidneys.. he wants to go back to doing the same thing he couldnt wait to stop doing... you never know what you have to u lose it
flex great phsique...
lazy person arrogant person narcisstic person....
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he has nothing today,,not even arms,,those are still oils ciculating 5-10 years later and may be like that for another 5-10 years,,the tatoos are cover up for him cant accsepting the lose of muscle due to the inability to hormonize like a horse and like any other top competitor and many gym rats,,he is not even at the level of a decent gym rat which is also on everything,,
the key word is ,,KEN WAS AND IS NOTHING WITH OUT THE MEGA DOSE USE OF HORMONES AS IN EVERY SINGLE DAY INJECTS AND TABLETS,,PERIOD
he will never step on stage againd because he cant,,you dont spit in gods face twice,,lied ,,cheated,,was and is lazy,,and cant even place last on bb stage now days even though most likley on hrt and shoudnt due to kidnys,,i say if he is on any hormones he is insane
i thought you said hormones does the body only good? and dbol is harmless?
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ummmm let me sound like the 12 year old girl they want me to be and say ,,,,ummmmm like um DUHH
this oil is in you for long long time breaking apart slowly and in most cases shorten your life if done in very heavy doses,,so you can take off 5 years from kin life and 5 years from jason life and 5 years from vic life ands 10+ from valentino life but valentino is no bodybuilder or never had any bodybuilding in him so it doesnt matter but the common thing between them is ALL OIL not only drugs but OILS YOU KOW LIKE THE ONE YOU GO SEE IN YOUR KITCHEN ,,THE CANOLA OIL YOU FRY YOUR FRIES IN OR OLIVE OIL ,,GRAPE SEED OIL ETC ETC ETC THAT THRE GARBAGE UNDERGROUND LAB MIX THEIR FAKE SEVERLY UNDERDOSED HORMONES IN
If all these bodybuilders look like nothing off gear...............how do you look off gear?
Or have you come off?
Also to your comments on page 1 that no-one can look good clean or are worth a second look............there are, it's rare but you assume everyone is hormonized so it can't be proven anyway. Some of us can hold a lot of muscle while clean (i'm talking a lot to the general public not compared to a pro) and me personally i can't stand having a bloated ugly face on gear no matter how clean i eat.....
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Do you do that post workout?
Chew the barbed wire pre workout and shit the nails post workout, that's what it's all about. >:( GRRRRRRR!! >:(
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stupid tatoos...
flex is a great bber but like nd or england said he never liked it...
in contrast to coleman he was such a crybaby.. ninjas.. car crashes.. fights with shawn u name it...
syntal .. calf impants...
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and i did read in an old compy pf flex there was a question when u stop competeing how many rs will u train.. while everyone else answered ..maybe half most people said it wouldnt change
flex said "thats easy it will be zero" thats shows he had no love for training,... and you could tell from his bfto segments.. its like someone was begging him to train... he was toooo arrogant...
now he has messed up,his kidneys.. he wants to go back to doing the same thing he couldnt wait to stop doing... you never know what you have to u lose it
flex great phsique...
lazy person arrogant person narcisstic person....
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'why complain...' ;D
look, you can say whatever you want about flex wheeler's character (although, 99% of the people commenting don't know the man), but the simple fact is, the man was a champion bber. he did it and no one can ever take that away from him.
it's a bit like saying tyson was a rapist, coward, dirty fighter, lunatic, gangster, etc....the simple fact is, he was the undisputed hw champion of the world (how you do this and be a coward at the same time befuddles me, but the arm chair critics say it's so, so who am i to argue? :-\)
as for the synthol in the arms? if those arms (during his peak) were synthol he did a very good job.
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'why complain...' ;D
look, you can say whatever you want about flex wheeler's character (although, 99% of the people commenting don't know the man), but the simple fact is, the man was a champion bber. he did it and no one can ever take that away from him.
it's a bit like saying tyson was a rapist, coward, dirty fighter, lunatic, gangster, etc....the simple fact is, he was the undisputed hw champion of the world (how you do this and be a coward at the same time befuddles me, but the arm chair critics say it's so, so who am i to argue? :-\)
as for the synthol in the arms? if those arms (during his peak) were synthol he did a very good job.
yes but ken wasnt!
you compare mike tison one of the best heavyweights in the history of world boxing to a no one like ken wheeler? mike tyson that took minimal dose of hormones and was heavy weight champ and to this day can fight very well if out his brain into it and a washed up liar and thief and ego maniac such as ken wheeler? to say their name in same sentence is insult to sports fans,,
tyson is THE champ,,very rememberable character with character from usa to china and back,,
ken is no THE champ ,,lacked what it takes ,,was very lazy was very hormonied,,walking beg of lies and oils
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Funny thing about Ken saying he wasn't going to train anymore when he retired. Shawn was pissed when he heard Flex say that. When SHawn retired he got fat, When Flex retired he was still hitting the weights and still is...Odd huh, how the one that supposedly doesn't like training, is still training, the one that does isn't. Just because you don't like training doesn't mean you have no heart. LL Cool J says he hates training, can't stand it, but it is something he has to do.
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Funny thing about Ken saying he wasn't going to train anymore when he retired. Shawn was pissed when he heard Flex say that. When SHawn retired he got fat, When Flex retired he was still hitting the weights and still is...Odd huh, how the one that supposedly doesn't like training, is still training, the one that does isn't. Just because you don't like training doesn't mean you have no heart. LL Cool J says he hates training, can't stand it, but it is something he has to do.
Shawn's never been one who had much in the way of "heart"... it's a good thing that he liked training, because he never would have been able to muster the discipline to become a pro bodybuilder if he hadn't.
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I know if flex wanted to come back and compete in IFBB shows again he would be top 3 at the Mr O again.
hey Flex, be gentle then you walk in a crowd, you could really hurt someone with those elbows.
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Shawn's never been one who had much in the way of "heart"... it's a good thing that he liked training, because he never would have been able to muster the discipline to become a pro bodybuilder if he hadn't.
Huh, it's always been said that Shawn has more heart than most bodybuilders. He's always talking about "heart of a champion", and being that he has more top five finishes in the O than any other bodybuilder, I think he proves it.
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'why complain...' ;D
look, you can say whatever you want about flex wheeler's character (although, 99% of the people commenting don't know the man), but the simple fact is, the man was a champion bber. he did it and no one can ever take that away from him.
it's a bit like saying tyson was a rapist, coward, dirty fighter, lunatic, gangster, etc....the simple fact is, he was the undisputed hw champion of the world (how you do this and be a coward at the same time befuddles me, but the arm chair critics say it's so, so who am i to argue? :-\)
as for the synthol in the arms? if those arms (during his peak) were synthol he did a very good job.
Not complaining at all.. flex is one of my fav bbers... phsique wise.... of all time....
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have you watched.. any bfto with flex training...
the way he walked around is liked someone was begging him to be gym and to train for the cameras..
flex thought he was the man.... and as soon as you start to beleave the hype thats when it comes crashing..
so for a man who couldnt wait to quit....
why he now wants to come back after he messed up his kidneys is a mystery...
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and to add.. you cant compare flex to tyson... being a bodybuilder take no special skill...
boxing is a skill...
pro bbing is just a simple formula...
good genetics in the case of wheeler anyway.... good food... and drugs
bbing is not a sport
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Not complaining at all.. flex is one of my fav bbers... phsique wise.... of all time....
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have you watched.. any bfto with flex training...
the way he walked around is liked someone was begging him to be gym and to train for the cameras..
flex thought he was the man.... and as soon as you start to beleave the hype thats when it comes crashing..
so for a man who couldnt wait to quit....
why he now wants to come back after he messed up his kidneys is a mystery...
That's odd I have notice that too. But it is a stark contrast to his "Hardbody", "Mass Construction" and his third video. His third vid was the best, because he had a passion and a fire in his eye. I wonder why, the BFTO is so different .
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That's odd I have notice that too. But it is a stark contrast to his "Hardbody", "Mass Construction" and his third video. His third vid was the best, because he had a passion and a fire in his eye. I wonder why, the BFTO is so different .
Because he didn't get paid to appear in BFTO. So he didn't talk.
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Not complaining at all.. flex is one of my fav bbers... phsique wise.... of all time....
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have you watched.. any bfto with flex training...
the way he walked around is liked someone was begging him to be gym and to train for the cameras..
flex thought he was the man.... and as soon as you start to beleave the hype thats when it comes crashing..
so for a man who couldnt wait to quit....
why he now wants to come back after he messed up his kidneys is a mystery...
no, you missed my point...'why complain...' you were comparing ronnie to flex on the cry baby stuff and, i'm referring to the pre o presser when ronnie made that comment...
for you and gh...i'm not comparing tyson to flex. all i'm saying is, flex wheeler was a world champion bber. that is without question. talking about different character flaws is just crap, especially when you don't know the man.
what's a little sad to me though is just how far the disrespect goes in the bbing world. i mean, gh15 is supposed to be a competitive bber, in fact a pro, yet he challenges my comparison, even though flex wheeler was the world champion in his sport. somehow, mike tyson, who competed in a completely different sport, gets a pass for rape, assaults, sex assaults, muggings (including old women, one of which he knocked her teeth out, when he was a kid), robberies, etc etc, but y'all think flex is worse...for telling lies and taking drugs (btw, tyson had and has no problem whatsoever with using anything and everything)... ::)
do you bbers all sit around cutting yourselves because you hate yourselves so much? i mean, seriously, i've never seen a fan base that hates its champions so much. :-\
i couldn't give a fuck about ken wheeler. in fact, i was always a big fan of tyson. i know everything about tyson as a fighter and i respect him as a fighter . i don't judge the man as a person because i don't know the man as a person...get it?
i see you all trying to degrade one of your greatest champions for reasons such as...he didn't look like he was putting any effort into his training at the bfto ??? ??? ??? i mean, wtf? tyson can rape, kill, steal, whatever...but you all love him ;D
man, this is one fucked up sport... ;D
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what ever happened to Flex showing us the new "Natural Body"?? All horse sh%T!!
Just like Dennis Newman doing a body of life for some other Supp company....
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Not complaining at all.. flex is one of my fav bbers... phsique wise.... of all time....
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have you watched.. any bfto with flex training...
the way he walked around is liked someone was begging him to be gym and to train for the cameras..
flex thought he was the man.... and as soon as you start to beleave the hype thats when it comes crashing..
so for a man who couldnt wait to quit....
why he now wants to come back after he messed up his kidneys is a mystery...
I noticed that too Mezo....he walked around and talked with the outmost arrogance...it was detracting from the way he looked.
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I noticed that too Mezo....he walked around and talked with the outmost arrogance...it was detracting from the way he looked.
i'd say your arrogance and insecurity detracted from the way you look sementaster, but you already look like shit and i didn't want to kick a dog while it was down. ;D
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i'd say your arrogance and insecurity detracted from the way you look sementaster, but you already look like shit and i didn't want to kick a dog while it was down. ;D
You bore me.
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ken had good physiqe and won competitions but he didnt use his potential to the max ,,that is what talking about here,,inaddition to being liar and lazy,,
tyson came from no where and had no bread to eat and took grab and destroy others to win the world heavy weight champ ,,because he wouldnt have food otherwize,,
tyson = great,,crazy mother fucker but great ,,rapist mother facker need to sit in prison for another 5 years if you ask me but guess what....he was what you in american call GREAt,,and i rarely use great to describe someone
ken = the one who never made it and could very well have if had what it took,,but he didnt
the all talk is about laziness and liarsa people who cant get to the top although have all the tools to do it ,,they dont get to top due to their fault and not other factors,,ken is prime example of that
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maybe kenneth was in his enlarged heart an boxing champion? and maybe then he wouldnt have been lazy?
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maybe kenneth was in his enlarged heart an boxing champion? and maybe then he wouldnt have been lazy?
Well, for sure a kidney hook would not do much damage to him. ;D
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if this picture is what good genetics is,,,then fuck genetics like you say it in america suits it
loads of drugs,,loads of lies,,gentle looking physiqe that had no power to it and no true strength to it,,it was illusion at its best that held no candle when was deflated of high doses and products,,when decided to do the o less drugs aka no duretics,...you saw where he ended up,,there is no bodybuilder with out drugs not amatuer and not professional as of 1960
yes you are right!
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gh15? your mind is so delusioned by drugs. yes everyone knows that in the ifbb everyone is on drugs. but your so brainwashed that you can not imagine anyone building a competitive body even on a natrual stage without drugs. i think the problem is you spend to much time around guys with bad genetics and structure who try and make up for it with heavy drug use.
skip lacour and jeff willet. they both admitted to using pro horomones so in my book are they natrual? no because i prohormones are considered a light stack.
But there are alot of quality natrual competitiors out there. id say a small natrual show is normally more competitive than a local npc show. alot of small npc shows feature guys with bad genetics, stucture, shap, and to much drugs.
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ken had good physiqe and won competitions but he didnt use his potential to the max ,,that is what talking about here,,inaddition to being liar and lazy,,
tyson came from no where and had no bread to eat and took grab and destroy others to win the world heavy weight champ ,,because he wouldnt have food otherwize,,
tyson = great,,crazy mother fucker but great ,,rapist mother facker need to sit in prison for another 5 years if you ask me but guess what....he was what you in american call GREAt,,and i rarely use great to describe someone
ken = the one who never made it and could very well have if had what it took,,but he didnt
the all talk is about laziness and liarsa people who cant get to the top although have all the tools to do it ,,they dont get to top due to their fault and not other factors,,ken is prime example of that
WTF, FLEX looked his best at 216-230. IF he went over that, he would have fuck himself. Maybe more back thickness, or chest but that is it. Flex's llook would not have garnered him a O win unless it was that opening he blew in 1998. In fact a win would have made it worse for him health wise. Because all Mr. O 's since Dorian have gotten bigger and worse since their first win. Bigger for Flex would have mean more GH, slin and the like, he was already having kidney problems from back in 1995-1997.
All I know is that he wasn't lazy enough not to beat you many times over...unless you are Dorian Yates...because it was Flex, Kevin, Ronnie, and Vince Taylor with the most wins. And Flex has the most Major wins with, 4 Arnold Classic wins and 5 Ironmans. Yet, you couldn't do that. Somethings may come easier to other people. And he kept banging at the pro door while he was a amateur, a lazy person would not have kept trying.
Sometimes you can't look at the amount of effort put into things, especially with bodybuilding, but you have to look at the end result, and quality of the end result. And many of Flex competitors put more time and effort into their "result", but didn't look as good when it came for show time. So, they become pissed and jealous that it took Flex less effort than them. Bodybuilding Sour Grapes.
If a person that won a race put little to no effort in that win, but the person who comes in second , third or even 5th, but says he put every ounce of heart into it, but calls the winner a lazy person, what does that make the losers look like?
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gh15? your mind is so delusioned by drugs. yes everyone knows that in the ifbb everyone is on drugs. but your so brainwashed that you can not imagine anyone building a competitive body even on a natrual stage without drugs. i think the problem is you spend to much time around guys with bad genetics and structure who try and make up for it with heavy drug use.
skip lacour and jeff willet. they both admitted to using pro horomones so in my book are they natrual? no because i prohormones are considered a light stack.
But there are alot of quality natrual competitiors out there. id say a small natrual show is normally more competitive than a local npc show. alot of small npc shows feature guys with bad genetics, stucture, shap, and to much drugs.
not at all my friend,,there is no brain wash and nothing of the like,,it is years over years with experience with every stage of bodybuilding and amature lifting to a professional career,,and when i tell you every one is hormonized to some degree i mean it to the t,,skip and jeff used every hormone in the book and the 2 of them are sneeky and sqweezed money out of every 16 year old around the usa like there is no tomorrow out of bubbles and bullcrap told on websites and magazines,,they are not only prohormones because the prohomonres were 1/100 of their life,,what they had in their life is HORMONES AND THAT WAS THE WAY TO ACHIEVE ANYTHING,,
its not a matter of if and whats and buts,,it is straight facts of years over years in this field,,it is exact years especially last 15 years in the know from all aspects,,it is the 1997 to 2007 internet age of hormones,,,those are THE CLIENTS OF THE BOARDS ,,THE STEROID BOARDS,,
every one is hormonized in this sport that is worth second look,,AMERICAN ARE THIE WORST LIARS ON EARTH WHEN IT COMES TO HORMONE USE ,,YOU WILL SEE KIDS AT 19 SKINNY PLAYING BASBALL IN MIDDLE NO WHERE TO BE FOUND AMERICA THEN 2 YERAS LATER AT 21 COME IN 220LB 8% AT 5'8 CUT AND DEFINED,,ALL THICK WAFFED ANDPUFFED WITH VERY SHORT ATTENTION SPAN AND VERY ANGRY AND TENSED,,ALL RESULT OF HORMONE USAGE ,,THOSE SAME KIDS ARE ALSO VERY LOW SELF ESTEEM BUT ON HORMONE ARE VERY SHOW IT OFF TYPE YET STILL LOW SELFESTEREEM WHEN THEY TACKLE SOMEONE AT MY CALIBER THAT CAN PIN POINT TO THE WHOS AND WHATS,,
the point is america hormones is all over america and the also the world,,the problem is in america those kids also do bad bad drugs and the approach to them is same as they approach hormones,,its sad and bad for them and thats the problem,,PROBATION IS FEMILIAR WORD TO 90% OF THOSE KIDS,,its quite sad but it is 100% gh15 approved
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narcotics is not snitch,,narcotics is a whole diff ball gme,,narcotics as in painkillers and recrational drugs in general is not snitch it is garbage that ned getting rid off,,now gh15 is aware of the past crimes and probations 50-70% of board members of bodybuilding have BUT NOT TO FORGET! you want to keep out of trouble ,,you want to keep yoruself far from this type of drugs and you want to keep yoruself far from the people who surround them and those people are a good part of bodybuilding industry as of today and i suggest you to stay away,,
you can take gh15 advice or not,,i suggest you take it for the sake of you and other people,,it has nothing to do with snitch and narc or narcsiem lit has a lot to do with the fact that behind the screen both you and i know (see i said i not me as in proper english),,,both you and i know that you are a good guy and want to stay out of troubles,,you dont want no problems and you dont need them upon yourself,,,let the fellons who really have anything else to gain money from do this things,,
bodybuilding must get clean inorder not to be erased as sport and minimized as indutry to a fly size,,we are in big deep trouble time,,and we need to kick all the narcotics dealers out of this sport,,again it will follow by actuion of the ifbb but the machine is somewhat slower than gh15 ,,you just need to keep your clean ass out of trouble and dont involve yourself with this because lives are being destroyed and not for vial of testosterone,,
bodybuilding should get cleaned to what it used to be and it is hormone use ,,human grade hormone use nd only that,,back to the 50s-60s-70s with out the rec drugs as major part of it,,it got to go back to this time inorder to survive the next 5 years and to get hormone to an uncontrolled state with limited personal individual supply from pharmacies in your place of the globe,,trust me gh15 knows what he/she talking about
I beliieve all bodybuilders are addicted to what they take .. All professional athletes use drugs .. Professional bodybuilders ABUSE drugs..The differance is obvious .
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WTF, FLEX looked his best at 216-230. IF he went over that, he would have fuck himself. Maybe more back thickness, or chest but that is it. Flex's llook would not have garnered him a O win unless it was that opening he blew in 1998. In fact a win would have made it worse for him health wise. Because all Mr. O 's since Dorian have gotten bigger and worse since their first win. Bigger for Flex would have mean more GH, slin and the like, he was already having kidney problems from back in 1995-1997.
All I know is that he wasn't lazy enough not to beat you many times over...unless you are Dorian Yates...because it was Flex, Kevin, Ronnie, and Vince Taylor with the most wins. And Flex has the most Major wins with, 4 Arnold Classic wins and 5 Ironmans. Yet, you couldn't do that. Somethings may come easier to other people. And he kept banging at the pro door while he was a amateur, a lazy person would not have kept trying.
Sometimes you can't look at the amount of effort put into things, especially with bodybuilding, but you have to look at the end result, and quality of the end result. And many of Flex competitors put more time and effort into their "result", but didn't look as good when it came for show time. So, they become pissed and jealous that it took Flex less effort than them. Bodybuilding Sour Grapes.
If a person that won a race put little to no effort in that win, but the person who comes in second , third or even 5th, but says he put every ounce of heart into it, but calls the winner a lazy person, what does that make the losers look like?
ken had better genetic repond to hormones than i ,,but ken was lazy couldnt lift for shits ,,was spoild brat ,,lair and thief ,,used what god gave him in the wrong way,,was egotistical narcsist,,i may be narcsist but not egotisctical,,ken never liked bodybuilding and did it for the girls ,,,from the girl he went to compete and couldnt win the big one not due to genetic reponse but due to LAZINESS AND SNOBINESS,,
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I beliieve all bodybuilders are addicted to what they take .. All professional athletes use drugs .. Professional bodybuilders ABUSE drugs..The differance is obvious .
yes ,,well said,,profssional bodybuilders abuse drugs ,,all athletes and amatuer bodybuilders up to regional level and including reguional level use drugs,,
state and regional to proffessional level bodybuilding = abuse of hormones ,,as in using as many products as you can ,,with doses suiting your lean muscle mass,,rarely gettting off,,always need a high as in power high but many abuse it as try to get diff type of high and that is WHY WE AS A SPORT FAILED MISEREBLY!,,
in my opinion this sport has HAS HAS HAS TO GET CLEANED OUT OF THE GARBAGE NARCOTICS AND SOMEONE NEED TO THROW THE REAL CRIMINALS INTO PRISON AND OUT OF THE IFBB AND OUT OF THE NPC AND OUT OF BODYBUUILDING,,
WE ARE NOT THE FUCKIN YARD FOR ANY PROBATION AND CRIMINAL TO COME BY AFTER ABUSE OF METH AND DECIDE TO DO SOME BODYBUILDING AND JUMP ON HORMONES,,WE SHOULD NOT BE THEIR ESCAPE GOAT BECAUE BODYBUUILDING WITLL STOP FROM EXISTING,,
IF YOU SEE A BODYBUILDER THAT IS ON NARCTOICS AND YOU KNOW HE OR SHE IS AND THEY ARE ATLEAST 30-40% OF THE SPORT AND INDUSTRYM,,,IF YOU KNOW ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE JUST SNITCH! ON THEM TELL IT TO THE POLICE ,,GO OUT AND MAKE SURE ITS KNOWN,,
THERE SHOULD BE NO NARCOTICS IN OUR SPORT IT WILL KILL US ALL ,,IT WILL FINISH OUR INDUSTRY!
DO YOU WANT BODYBUILDING TO STAY IN 10 YEARS? YOU GOT TO CLEAN THIS SPORT FROM NARCOTICS ATLEAST,,,IM VERY SERIOUS
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yes ,,well said,,profssional bodybuilders abuse drugs ,,all athletes and amatuer bodybuilders up to regional level and including reguional level use drugs,,
state and regional to proffessional level bodybuilding = abuse of hormones ,,as in using as many products as you can ,,with doses suiting your lean muscle mass,,rarely gettting off,,always need a high as in power high but many abuse it as try to get diff type of high and that is WHY WE AS A SPORT FAILED MISEREBLY!,,
in my opinion this sport has HAS HAS HAS TO GET CLEANED OUT OF THE GARBAGE NARCOTICS AND SOMEONE NEED TO THROW THE REAL CRIMINALS INTO PRISON AND OUT OF THE IFBB AND OUT OF THE NPC AND OUT OF BODYBUUILDING,,
WE ARE NOT THE FUCKIN YARD FOR ANY PROBATION AND CRIMINAL TO COME BY AFTER ABUSE OF METH AND DECIDE TO DO SOME BODYBUILDING AND JUMP ON HORMONES,,WE SHOULD NOT BE THEIR ESCAPE GOAT BECAUE BODYBUUILDING WITLL STOP FROM EXISTING,,
IF YOU SEE A BODYBUILDER THAT IS ON NARCTOICS AND YOU KNOW HE OR SHE IS AND THEY ARE ATLEAST 30-40% OF THE SPORT AND INDUSTRYM,,,IF YOU KNOW ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE JUST SNITCH! ON THEM TELL IT TO THE POLICE ,,GO OUT AND MAKE SURE ITS KNOWN,,
THERE SHOULD BE NO NARCOTICS IN OUR SPORT IT WILL KILL US ALL ,,IT WILL FINISH OUR INDUSTRY!
DO YOU WANT BODYBUILDING TO STAY IN 10 YEARS? YOU GOT TO CLEAN THIS SPORT FROM NARCOTICS ATLEAST,,,IM VERY SERIOUS
get the fuck off the internet moron
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get the fuck off the internet moron
here is an example of one of them,,they are all over the place,,we got convicts and criminals among us,,our sport cant get no where with people like them
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infact iof i was ron avidan id make sure to bann those individuals like the young guns off the getbig site because the approach is of supporting narcotics,,and the bodybuilding industry is so high on the scope of the goverment that this type of people will be the escuse to shut bodybuilding down,,
start banning people like him,,they are the ones who make our bodybuilding hormones look like narcotics because they come from narcotics bacjround into bodybuilding!
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here is an example of one of them,,they are all over the place,,we got convicts and criminals among us,,our sport cant get no where with people like them
grade 2 was hard?
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grade 2 was hard?
im sure in your local no where to be found town the jail is better than second grade ,,or your qgl fakes,,or your underground garbage or your local club exasy sellings,,or your painkillers used daily,,im sure those bring your kids good education that will go passt the second grade with a daddy that sit in jail and cant stay with one woman because he bit her up,,and jobless because he only count on narcotics as way of living,,
get the fuck out of this sport before i bring the whole county sherif in usa no where to be found town of yours into your wirless connection location and take the whole neigberhood down,,skunk loser
we got to kick them out of our sport friends! they will ruin bodybuilding!
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Hey...did anyone hear that Flex got measured at 0% bodyfat back in the "day"? LMAO!!! Sorry, had to start this again... ;D
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GH15 IS TRUE. BUT GH15 WHAT EACH ONE OF US CAN DO IN ORDER TO HELP SAVING THE SPORT?
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Hey...did anyone hear that Flex got measured at 0% bodyfat back in the "day"? LMAO!!! Sorry, had to start this again... ;D
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get the fuck off the internet moron
AHAHHAAAA the irony of this post is amazing!! ;D
ha
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Flex Wheeler is a man who has muscles on his body.
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in my opinion this sport has HAS HAS HAS TO GET CLEANED OUT OF THE GARBAGE NARCOTICS AND SOMEONE NEED TO THROW THE REAL CRIMINALS INTO PRISON AND OUT OF THE IFBB AND OUT OF THE NPC AND OUT OF BODYBUUILDING,,
What the hell is wrong with you?