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Anyone think that Hidetada Yamagishi's arrest may have played a part in cancellation of this show? (Like Lee Priest and the Australian show, the frontrunner is usually a native son.) Or was the competition purse just too ambitious for a first year show in an untested market?
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Japan Pro show removed from 2008 schedule
Posted in IFBB, News on January 2nd, 2008 with No Comments »
The Japan Pro show scheduled to take place on October 12-13, 2008 in Tokyo, Japan has been removed from the pro schedule. The official web site of the IFBB (ifbbpro.com) has removed the event from the 2008 schedule. There has been no official word on why it has been removed but we are looking into it.
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I don't think it's a coincidence. This could have been the straw that broke the camel's back. Though this time we are certain that Lee Priest (pictured below) had nothing to do with it.
(http://www.hirepgym.com/images/markus_ruhl/markus-ruhl.jpg)
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ain't that there markus ruehl fella ?
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ain't that there markus ruehl fella ?
MARCUS RULE = P.I.P.
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wow from that angle lee priest looks alot taller
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What a shocker...... ::)
And to think, how will ESPN fill up the 2-3 hour spot? Maybe more Spelling Bee.....
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ain't that there markus ruehl fella ?
Oh, my mistake. Here's the Lee Priest picture I was referring to:
(http://ifbbtv.com/video3/images/103_npc_usa_flexonline.jpg)
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Anyone think that Hidetada Yamagishi's arrest may have played a part in cancellation of this show? (Like Lee Priest and the Australian show, the frontrunner is usually a native son.) Or was the competition purse just too ambitious for a first year show in an untested market?
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Japan Pro show removed from 2008 schedule
Posted in IFBB, News on January 2nd, 2008 with No Comments »
The Japan Pro show scheduled to take place on October 12-13, 2008 in Tokyo, Japan has been removed from the pro schedule. The official web site of the IFBB (ifbbpro.com) has removed the event from the 2008 schedule. There has been no official word on why it has been removed but we are looking into it.
Sad state of affairs if the IFBB has to cancel a Japan show because a one of their own is in jail. What, does the IFBB world in Japan revolve around Hide?
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The real surprise is that the ifbb.com website was updated so quickly.
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Let me gusse because of Yamagishi being busted for drugs at LAX.
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Oh, my mistake. Here's the Lee Priest picture I was referring to:
(http://ifbbtv.com/video3/images/103_npc_usa_flexonline.jpg)
cool haircut on Lee there
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The IFBB is barely a professional organization, it will never be taken seriously
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Hide has left a black eye on his country. They are so ashamed they pulled it never to be involved in BB again.
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Titus lived in Vegas. They didn't cancel the O when he took his little trip.
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Hide got arrested that's why they cancelled it.. knowing that that poor bastard won't come out for the next decade
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the colorado show was cancelled when phil heath didn't compete
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Hide has left a black eye on his country. They are so ashamed they pulled it never to be involved in BB again.
aahhahaha great post
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Hide has left a black eye on his country. They are so ashamed they pulled it never to be involved in BB again.
I wonder if Hide will be called upon to "apologize" in the traditional manner for bringing such dishonor on his people?
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Anyone think that Hidetada Yamagishi's arrest may have played a part in cancellation of this show? (Like Lee Priest and the Australian show, the frontrunner is usually a native son.)
I didn't even know that my show was cancelled.
According to my website it is on March 8th.
PS. I wish that we could have Lee in the show!
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Thats a shame. Japan and some other Asian countries looks like they could be a big market for the IFBB. The Japan sounded like a pretty big show, good prize money too i believe.
Milos, you were going to compete in this. What are you doing now?
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I wonder if Hide will be called upon to "apologize" in the traditional manner for bringing such dishonor on his people?
Hopefully, that event would be aired at PayPerView
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Hopefully, that event would be aired at PayPerView
It would do better than the last Olympia PPV! ;D
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I didn't even know that my show was cancelled.
According to my website it is on March 8th.
PS. I wish that we could have Lee in the show!
Didn't say that the Australian show was cancelled...only the Japan Pro show. I was noting that Lee Priest is always a frontrunner in the Australian show, before he even sets foot on the stage, just because he is Australian, just as Hide would be the frontrunner in the Japan Pro if it was happening, because he is Japanese.
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Oh, my mistake. Here's the Lee Priest picture I was referring to:
(http://ifbbtv.com/video3/images/103_npc_usa_flexonline.jpg)
seriously, Lee need to bring up his quads
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What will this mean for Milos' supposed comeback, I ask myself.
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PS. I wish that we could have Lee in the show!
so, invite him. what's the IFBB going to do? become a US only league?
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Didn't say that the Australian show was cancelled...only the Japan Pro show. I was noting that Lee Priest is always a frontrunner in the Australian show, before he even sets foot on the stage, just because he is Australian, just as Hide would be the frontrunner in the Japan Pro if it was happening, because he is Japanese.
Thanks for explaining that, I read it wrong. However it was a good opportunity for me to promote my show.....
http://www.dohertysgym.com
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Thanks for explaining that, I read it wrong. However it was a good opportunity for me to promote my show.....
http://www.dohertysgym.com
Can't wait till Melbourne Tony.. Do you have any competitor lists?
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so, invite him. what's the IFBB going to do? become a US only league?
He cant, Lee isn't a member of the IFBB...
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He cant, Lee isn't a member of the IFBB...
Hey Bob sup? Serious question. So Lee is no longer considered under suspension just completely banned from the IFBB? Just wondered cause in order for someone to be under suspension they would have to still be a member of said organization. So when they decided to not lfit the suspension they went a step further and banned him?
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He cant, Lee isn't a member of the IFBB...
he can invite who ever he wants, because it's his show. the only thing the IFBB could do is yank their sanctioning, but the IFBB can't afford to lose its last remaining non-US show. (the NZ show would not be viable without the AUS show)
Santa Susanna invited Marcos Chacón (http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Chac%F3n,+Marcos) and Sergei Ogorodnikov (http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Ogorodnikov,+Sergei), and there is no evidence that they were IFBB pros before or since.
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he can invite who ever he wants, because it's his show. the only thing the IFBB could do is yank their sanctioning, but the IFBB can't afford to lose its last remaining non-US show. (the NZ show would not be viable without the AUS show)
Santa Susanna invited Marcos Chacón (http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Chac%F3n,+Marcos) and Sergei Ogorodnikov (http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Ogorodnikov,+Sergei), and there is no evidence that they were IFBB pros before or since.
Funny cause I was thinking the same exact thing.
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Where is Chickerdildo to explain this conundrum? :o
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Where is Chickerdildo to explain this conundrum? :o
give Chick a break - it's not easy towing the line when the ship is sinking
(http://www.hydrolance.net/common/SinkingOilShip-8.jpg)
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My guess on why it was cancelled..
1. They were able to book the hall...Check
2. They were able to put large dividers up between urinals to stop laughter from westerners...Check
3. They were able to mass murder 300 dolphins so everyone in attendence could put dolphin in with every shake they drank at the event...Check
4. They were able to fly in a half dozen tai flyboys under the age of 14 to pose as 18 year old girls for the judges for the evening...Check
5. So that just leaves that they callanced the show because they were not able to get a 10 foot Gong that they have for every bbuilding show in japan...Which is what makes there shows so fucking funny...Watching some of those guys get gonged is beyond funny...
Oh well maybe next year
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Because no more japanese pro compete ;D ;D
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Because no more japanese pro compete ;D ;D
that was going to be my 6th reason...It just didn't really make any sense to me though :-\
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why is Hide still a IFBB member? shouldn't he have been thrown under the bus already?
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Thanks for explaining that, I read it wrong. However it was a good opportunity for me to promote my show.....
http://www.dohertysgym.com
Why not have Lee there as a "special guest". Of course, he can't compete, but perhaps he could guest pose......
Also, while at the show, why not have the audience (the 200 or so Aussie homosexuals that show up) sign a petition for the IFBB to allow Priest to don the thong and baby oil, and make his triumphant return to competition?
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he can invite who ever he wants, because it's his show. the only thing the IFBB could do is yank their sanctioning, but the IFBB can't afford to lose its last remaining non-US show. (the NZ show would not be viable without the AUS show)
Santa Susanna invited Marcos Chacón (http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Chac%F3n,+Marcos) and Sergei Ogorodnikov (http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Ogorodnikov,+Sergei), and there is no evidence that they were IFBB pros before or since.
hmmmmm :-\
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Marcos Chacon was IFBB PRO cause he won in 2005 in Huelva heavyweight Class at the spanish national. Every year one spaniard has right to have it. Except in 2007, there were 2 new IFBB PRO´s Paco Mula (48) and Raul Carrasco (26). They compete this 2008.
I can imagine Sergey was Rusia Champion any year, too
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Hey Bob sup? Serious question. So Lee is no longer considered under suspension just completely banned from the IFBB? Just wondered cause in order for someone to be under suspension they would have to still be a member of said organization. So when they decided to not lfit the suspension they went a step further and banned him?
Good question! Bob where did you go?
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20k for a Pro show is a JOKE,over 5 places do the math it's not worth it.At least the jap show was worth something when it was going to be on.Oh well back to food stamps.
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why is Hide still a IFBB member? shouldn't he have been thrown under the bus already?
No, they'll let it happen on a technicality so Bob can publicly claim he wasn't thrown out (kinda like Lee). FOr example, they put a requirement that IFBB card must be renewed in person at a show or something, then Bob can say, "he wasn't kicked out.,.. he let his card expire, so he is not curently a member" or some such horseshit.
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Good question! Bob where did you go?
Lately he's on Mayhem having the exact same arguments with Lee he had here six months ago. ::)
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20k for a Pro show is a JOKE,over 5 places do the math it's not worth it.At least the jap show was worth something when it was going to be on.Oh well back to food stamps.
Do the rest of the math...500 people attending this event @ average $50 per head equals $25,000 plus some vendor fees, minus venue, guest posing fees, personnel and other sundry costs...after paying the pro's the $20,000 purse, doesn't leave much to pay these other costs.
Until bodybuilding gains some other avenues of revenue (television, pay per view, etc.), you aren't going to see too many big shows that can pay the kind of money that the Olympia and Arnold can.
(In fact, that is probably why the Olympia chose to stay in Las Vegas permanently rather than moving from city-to-city as it had in the old days. It is easier to drum up interest if people know that the event is going to be in the same place every year. If the Olympia was in Vegas one year, in Munich the next, then London, then Sydney, many of the regular audience would decide to skip the show and watch it online, hitting the IFBB and AMI deep in the pocket book.)
Messiah of Muscle: Correct me if I am wrong. I am guessing at your audience figures based on the turnout at other pro bodybuilding shows. Hope that I am wrong and that your contest turns a good profit.
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Do the rest of the math...500 people attending this event
that's the problem. the old Night of Champions would sell out the Beacon Theater each year, and that holds 2800. Pre-judging and finals would give you 5600 tickets sold. Perhaps even a third seating for women shows. Much more of a profit margin with 7000 tickets at $50 each. And the Beacon is considered small. There were many shows in the 80s and 90s that would sell out much larger theaters.
The IFBB needs to figure out how to get people into the seats. Better advertising (local as oppose to national), better judging, more aesthetically pleasing physiques, more tier one bodybuilders (only the winner qualifies for the olympia so that the 2-5 place people have to enter more contests, no automatic qualifying from last year), and stop with the petty definition of who's a pro (Lee, Sami, NABBA Universe winners).
Until bodybuilding gains some other avenues of revenue (television, pay per view, etc.), you aren't going to see too many big shows that can pay the kind of money that the Olympia and Arnold can.
bodybuilding already had and lost TV and pay per view. The Olympia was on ABC Wide World of Sports in the 80s. Pro contests use to be on ESPN in the 90s. They tried ppv for the Olympia a few years ago. People aren't interested in the super massive look. Networks don't want to deal with the steroid issue.
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Hey Bob sup? Serious question. So Lee is no longer considered under suspension just completely banned from the IFBB? Just wondered cause in order for someone to be under suspension they would have to still be a member of said organization. So when they decided to not lfit the suspension they went a step further and banned him?
Well, basically, he's just a "free agent"....his membership ran out, he applied for reinstatement, he was denied....so he's just a man without a country. (so to say)
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why is Hide still a IFBB member? shouldn't he have been thrown under the bus already?
No action will be taken on Hide as he has nothing that would "throw him under the bus"....he has been arrested, he has the opportunity to prove his case and clear his name. The IFBB may take action IF he is convicted of said crime...right now all there is, is an allegation.
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No action will be taken on Hide as he has nothing that would "throw him under the bus"....he has been arrested, he has the opportunity to prove his case and clear his name. The IFBB may take action IF he is convicted of said crime...right now all there is, is an allegation.
If he is convicted of possession of steroids? The IFBB may "take action"??
Are you serious?
Given that the IFBB wouldn't exist without steroids, and all members are "on", wouldn't you call that a bit hypocritical, Bob? ::)
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If he is convicted of possession of steroids? The IFBB may "take action"??
Are you serious?
Given that the IFBB wouldn't exist without steroids, and all members are "on", wouldn't you call that a bit hypocritical, Bob? ::)
Not my call...they may (or may not) take the same action that anyone else in similiar situations has received....my job is to insure that whatever happens is fair and just, and consistant with past actions.
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Not my call...they may (or may not) take the same action that anyone else in similiar situations has received....my job is to insure that whatever happens is fair and just, and consistant with past actions.
what action was taken against Titus (the first time) ?
what action was taken against Martinez?
what action was taken against St Cloud ? Oh that's right, he beat the rap.
Hide needs to find out the name of his lawyer.
what action was taken against James? Oh that's right, those charges disappeared.
Don't forget, Hide is not the only IFBB pro currently facing charges. Jason Arntz was arrested on March 12, 2007 and charged with one count of conspiracy to manufacture steroids.
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exactly...
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It seems what Lee did pales in compairison to the guys listed there. Lee didnt break any laws and he gets black balled?
Hes a champion with a fan base larger than all those guys put together, you would think the IFBB would want him in thier stable.
He should be reinstated right away.
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It seems what Lee did pales in compairison to the guys listed there. Lee didnt break any laws and he gets black balled?
Hes a champion with a fan base larger than all those guys put together, you would think the IFBB would want him in thier stable.
He should be reinstated right away.
He was offered a chance to come back, he turned it down.
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If he is convicted of possession of steroids? The IFBB may "take action"??
Are you serious?
Given that the IFBB wouldn't exist without steroids, and all members are "on", wouldn't you call that a bit hypocritical, Bob? ::)
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