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Mike Huckabee wins it for the repubs.
Obama wins it for the dems.
Ron Paul at 10%, Rudy guiliani at 4%.
www.politico.com
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Hilary Clinton is tied for second with John Edwards. Too close to call.
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im so tired of black celebrities like oprah and their support for obama. only reason they are doing it is because hes black. they are racist.
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im so tired of black celebrities like oprah and their support for obama. only reason they are doing it is because hes black. they are racist.
Incorrect. Oprah refused to campaign for black man ALan Keyes in 2000 after he got THIRD in Iowa and was a legit threat. Oprah has always refused to help any candidates until now. O & O are from the same hometown and share the same political and social beliefs.
If this was a race thing, I'd be the first one calling oprah for it. But it's really not. Oprah fears the world hates us. Do they?
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Sorry to break your balls, folks. Only reason why Obama is a legit candidate is because he's articulate and black.
He has no foreign policy experience.
He has not run anything(unlike Guliani).
He's somewhat of a conformist, much like Hillary. He's a lapdog the publics' wishes, as opposed to what's good for the nation as a whole.
More stupidity on behalf of the American public. :-\
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huckabee schmuckabee
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240 to late bro i made this post already before u ;)
Check the post times, man.
Me = 9:36 pm
You = 9:53 pm
But we can celebrate the win for change tonight :)
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Sorry to break your balls, folks. Only reason why Obama is a legit candidate is because he's articulate and black.
He has no foreign policy experience.
He has not run anything(unlike Guliani).
He's somewhat of a conformist, much like Hillary. He's a lapdog the publics' wishes, as opposed to what's good for the nation as a whole.
More stupidity on behalf of the American public. :-\
He's not that black though. I would say caramel, not full-on walnut or mahogany.
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what does it change for us canadians 8)
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He's not that black though. I would say caramel, not full-on walnut or mahogany.
I'd put him at chestnut or maple.
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what does it change for us canadians 8)
hahaha est bonne!
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Sorry to break your balls, folks. Only reason why Obama is a legit candidate is because he's articulate and black.
He has no foreign policy experience.
He has not run anything(unlike Guliani).
He's somewhat of a conformist, much like Hillary. He's a lapdog the publics' wishes, as opposed to what's good for the nation as a whole.
More stupidity on behalf of the American public. :-\
Well, there are really two mindsets for American foreign policy.
You need an ass-kicker for 8 years to take oil and bases. Bush did that.
You need a 'healer' to make friends overseas for 8 years. The Dem will do that.
You need BOTH parties to keep the cycle going. Bush kicked ass and the world hates us. The Dem will make friends and heal relations, but won't kick ass for a bit.
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This guy has made the Republicans a lock for the next election.
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im so tired of black celebrities like oprah and their support for obama. only reason they are doing it is because hes black. they are racist.
I don't recall her being behind Al Sharpton in 2004
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This guy has made the Republicans a lock for the next election.
Hilary or Edwards could still win the nomination.
By the way, polls have Obama beating every Republican candidate. So unless you know something the rest of us do not...
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iowa, who got popped in iowa by the DEA a few years ago?
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This guy has made the Republicans a lock for the next election.
Actually, Osama has a better chance of winning the general than Hillary does. Hillary can't win.... all republicans, even moderates, hate her guts. Some moderates might be willing to vote for Obama though.
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whatever happens we are in for some exiting times ahead!! I am a registered dem but my vote would go to huckabee(sp)
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Actually, Osama has a better chance of winning the general than Hillary does. Hillary can't win.... all republicans, even moderates, hate her guts. Some moderates might be willing to vote for Obama though.
Correct.
And about 100,000 more people came out to vote tonight, that didn't vote in 2004, when Kerry ran.
People are excited again. There is hope.
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i like huckabee he believes the earth is flat
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Correct.
And about 100,000 more people came out to vote tonight, that didn't vote in 2004, when Kerry ran.
People are excited again. There is hope.
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for what?
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whatever happens we are in for some exiting times ahead!! I am a registered dem but my vote would go to huckabee(sp)
You're kidding right? He's a fuccking BAPTIST MINISTER! The Christards have already had eight years in the white house from which to spew their dark-ages religious propaganda. I think that's more than enough. If one of the bible-beaters takes the GOP nomination, I'm voting Dem for the first time in my life. >:(
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whatever happens we are in for some exiting times ahead!! I am a registered dem but my vote would go to huckabee(sp)
Check out his positions before you vote!
He likes the war in Iraq, he supports most Bush policies. He wants to put a 23% sales tax on everyting you buy and eliminate the income tax. Milk is going to get expensive under Huck.
Likeable guy - but his positions are similar to Dubya.
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You're kidding right? He's a fuccking BAPTIST MINISTER! The Christards have already had eight years in the white house from which to spew their dark-ages religious propaganda. I think that's more than enough. If one of the bible-beaters takes the GOP nomination, I'm voting Dem for the first time in my life. >:(
calm down tiger, its only politics :D we can argue back and forth on the whole faith thing, but the main reason i support him is for his remodeling of our tax system
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www.politico.com
This does not look like a 240 or Bust website.
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This does not look like a 240 or Bust website.
hahaha
as much as I love politics, I do not TOUCH political websites, as a rule.
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Check out his positions before you vote!
He likes the war in Iraq, he supports most Bush policies. He wants to put a 23% sales tax on everyting you buy and eliminate the income tax. Milk is going to get expensive under Huck.
Likeable guy - but his positions are similar to Dubya.
we get a sales tax but he gets rid of everything else!!! tax brackets, capital gains, etc.
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calm down tiger, its only politics :D we can argue back and forth on the whole faith thing
You can have and practice whatever faith you want, but it doesn't belong anywhere near government. If you want a theocracy, try Iran or Saudi.
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we get a sales tax but he gets rid of everything else!!! tax brackets, capital gains, etc.
It's great on paper.
However, the bottom 20% of our nation - the poor folk - are going to get totally screwed. They already don't pay anything in taxes, and they spend all their income at walmart.
When everything at walmart goes up 23%, they stop buying.
Your middle class portfolio drops in every industry.
Your upper class net worth JUMPS in year one, but falls every year after that.
Sad but true. Flat tax looks awesome but cripples poor, and they stop spending, which hurts everyone.
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You can have and practice whatever faith you want, but it doesn't belong anywhere near government. If you want a theocracy, try Iran or Saudi.
I do agree with you. Faith in politics has delayed the advancement of science a great deal.
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You're kidding right? He's a fuccking BAPTIST MINISTER! The Christards have already had eight years in the white house from which to spew their dark-ages religious propaganda. I think that's more than enough. If one of the bible-beaters takes the GOP nomination, I'm voting Dem for the first time in my life. >:(
Agree! If a bible beater gets in we are Fu*ked! For a long time.
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It's great on paper.
However, the bottom 20% of our nation - the poor folk - are going to get totally screwed. They already don't pay anything in taxes, and they spend all their income at walmart.
When everything at walmart goes up 23%, they stop buying.
Your middle class portfolio drops in every industry.
Your upper class net worth JUMPS in year one, but falls every year after that.
Sad but true. Flat tax looks awesome but cripples poor, and they stop spending, which hurts everyone.
this is going to sound bad.... I have no sympathy for the botton 20%, they are that way for a reason. These people dont have the drive to do anything let alone do better for themselves. These people have the power to take their destiny in their own hands yet they do NOTHING.
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this is going to sound bad.... I have no sympathy for the botton 20%, they are that way for a reason. These people dont have the drive to do anything let alone do better for themselves. These people have the power to take their destiny in their own hands yet they do NOTHING.
re-read what I wrote.
It's not about them. It's about YOU.
When they cut their spending by 30%, YOU WILL FEEL IT.
Your stock in every company will drop. Remember- they spend everything they earn. If you raise the price, they stop spending so much. When 50 million people cut their spending at Walmart by 30%, what does that do to WMT in your stock portfolio?
andddddddddd.... when that happens, walmart cuts 20% of their staff. So you have a shitload of new homeless people sapping up welfare and emergency room services.
This doesn't just happen at walmart, it happens at every store, every industry, every plant.
You NEED the poor to keep your money, bro.
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hahaha
as much as I love politics, I do not TOUCH political websites, as a rule.
Then change your rule. Hope this helps.
PS - Larry Silverstein decided to "pull it".
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re-read what I wrote.
It's not about them. It's about YOU.
When they cut their spending by 30%, YOU WILL FEEL IT.
Your stock in every company will drop. Remember- they spend everything they earn. If you raise the price, they stop spending so much. When 50 million people cut their spending at Walmart by 30%, what does that do to WMT in your stock portfolio?
andddddddddd.... when that happens, walmart cuts 20% of their staff. So you have a shitload of new homeless people sapping up welfare and emergency room services.
This doesn't just happen at walmart, it happens at every store, every industry, every plant.
You NEED the poor to keep your money, bro.
that was a very intelligent post. sorry i did not read your comments more carefully.
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re-read what I wrote.
It's not about them. It's about YOU.
When they cut their spending by 30%, YOU WILL FEEL IT.
Your stock in every company will drop. Remember- they spend everything they earn. If you raise the price, they stop spending so much. When 50 million people cut their spending at Walmart by 30%, what does that do to WMT in your stock portfolio?
andddddddddd.... when that happens, walmart cuts 20% of their staff. So you have a shitload of new homeless people sapping up welfare and emergency room services.
This doesn't just happen at walmart, it happens at every store, every industry, every plant.
You NEED the poor to keep your money, bro.
Nah.... you just dump the sectors that would be most effected. Get rid of low-end retail, consumer discretionary, tech, etc... redeploy in healthcare, energy, basic materials, defense, etc.
Only problem is, 23% wouldn't do it... I doubt the plan would be revenue-neutral, either on paper or in practice.
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no worries. I used to LOVE the flat tax in 92 when Forbes was pushing it. It's FAIR!
But, the poor 'spending class' is what makes all us middle=classers live so well :)
We can't cripple them or they'll be dying in the streets and sticking guns in our ribs in parking lots lol...
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At this point, any way possible to keep Hillary out of office is going to have to suffice.
Obama has zero experience in dealing with other countries in any way (except for a token visit or three) and hasn't proven he can run ANYTHING whatsoever. Someone like that should scare the living hell out of EVERY American when it comes to being in office. However....
Hillary is a power hungry, corrupt to the core, lying, POS communist that would be an absolute DISASTER for the country if elected. The economy would TANK under her, other countries would laugh at the U.S. (like it or not, there isn't a Muslim country on EARTH that would respect or fear her as a leader. Japan and China would laugh at her as well). I honestly can't think of a SINGLE positive thing she'd bring to office. Nothing whatsoever. What has she EVER proven she CAN DO besides be a carpet bagger and assist her husband in arranging "suicides" for an inordinate amount of people they've both come in contact with?
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Well, there are really two mindsets for American foreign policy.
You need an ass-kicker for 8 years to take oil and bases. Bush did that.
You need a 'healer' to make friends overseas for 8 years. The Dem will do that.
You need BOTH parties to keep the cycle going. Bush kicked ass and the world hates us. The Dem will make friends and heal relations, but won't kick ass for a bit.
Maybe in years past. American doesn't really have a foreign policy per se. It is really just a puppet being driven by domestic policy. Hell, there are no statesmen anymore. Just politicians looking after theirs and their own. Presidents used to set up policy for years after their term. Now, they just slash and burn in office and say fuck it to whomever follows. Bush is particularly egregious example. I think (hope) Americans will look back on his term/s with the same revulsion that you do with the HUAC years. In any case, the upcoming financial crunch will have all your wagons being circled regardless of promises or intentions. :-\
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no worries. I used to LOVE the flat tax in 92 when Forbes was pushing it. It's FAIR!
But, the poor 'spending class' is what makes all us middle=classers live so well :)
We can't cripple them or they'll be dying in the streets and sticking guns in our ribs in parking lots lol...
How are you "middle class" making only $300 a website? :D
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Nah.... you just dump the sectors that would be most effected. Get rid of low-end retail, consumer discretionary, tech, etc... redeploy in healthcare, energy, basic materials, defense, etc.
that'd help you individually in the short-term.
But the social burden would hurt on the macro level.
You're going to have a few hundred more homeless asking for dollars in the Piney Point Villages of the world. ANd when you stop giving, they're going to stop being friendly.
It ain't fair, but we have to keep the poor from becoming the desperate.
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Maybe in years past. American doesn't really have a foreign policy per se. It is really just a puppet being driven by domestic policy. Hell, there are no statesmen anymore. Just politicians looking after theirs and their own. Presidents used to set up policy for years after their term. Now, they just slash and burn in office and say fuck it to whomever follows. Bush is particularly egregious example. I think (hope) Americans will look back on his term/s with the same revulsion that you do with the HUAC years. In any case, the upcoming financial crunch will have all your wagons being circled regardless of promises or intentions. :-\
Look at history - in the last 30 years, it's been a cucle of peace/conquering.
Bush did a good job at his PNAC goals - building bases, contorlling oil, establishing a presence over there.
But for longterm world success, we need to be perceived as "not the asshole anymore'
Besides, we all know that no President is allowed to fvck things up. They're kept on short leashes on things that matter.
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Nah.... you just dump the sectors that would be most effected. Get rid of low-end retail, consumer discretionary, tech, etc... redeploy in healthcare, energy, basic materials, defense, etc.
Only problem is, 23% wouldn't do it... I doubt the plan would be revenue-neutral, either on paper or in practice.
if you owned specific sectors and felt like gambling with your money then sure. however mutual funds would be hit hard, and mutual funds are what most investors own.
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You're going to have a few hundred more homeless asking for dollars in the Piney Point Villages of the world. ANd when you stop giving, they're going to stop being friendly.
Homeless aren't allowed around here.
And if they stop being friendly, we have more and better guns. ;D
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How are you "middle class" making only $300 a website? :D
I spend my spare time collecting neighborhood puppy dogs, which I sell to my local Chinese restaurant.
They find good homes for them!
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Well, there are really two mindsets for American foreign policy.
You need an ass-kicker for 8 years to take oil and bases. Bush did that.
You need a 'healer' to make friends overseas for 8 years. The Dem will do that.
You need BOTH parties to keep the cycle going. Bush kicked ass and the world hates us. The Dem will make friends and heal relations, but won't kick ass for a bit.
Brilliantly said! It's so annoying when people polarize the issue! Just call the Republicans the Gambinos and the Democrats the Genoveses.
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Homeless aren't allowed around here.
And if they stop being friendly, we have more and better guns. ;D
yeah, but eventually it'll affect everyone. Your kids can't go to the movies or the grocery stores with the AR-15 on their side.
We have to take care of idiots in this society or they can fvck up our lives. Sad but true.
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I spend my spare time collecting neighborhood puppy dogs, which I sell to my local Chinese restaurant.
They find good homes for them!
LOL! ;D
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I spend my spare time collecting neighborhood puppy dogs, which I sell to my local Chinese restaurant.
They find good homes for them!
I though I tasted something that just wasnt right. you are in the tampa area right 240?
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Brilliantly said! It's so annoying when people polarize the issue! Just call the Republicans the Gambinos and the Democrats the Genoveses.
People call them incompetent, but they're not. Bush did everything he said he'd do!
We voted him in because that's what our goals were too - mid east pipeline and strengthen belt defenses against a strengthening Russia.
Now we're collectively tired of the war and are sick of being hated when we vacation in Europe. A Dem will fix that.
Politicians are fun to pick on, but they generally do a good job. We're living awesome in the USA despite not having as many competitive advantages as in the past. I like to complain, but I commend their job at keeping this USA boat afloat!
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yeah, but eventually it'll affect everyone. Your kids can't go to the movies or the grocery stores with the AR-15 on their side.
We have to take care of idiots in this society or they can fvck up our lives. Sad but true.
Hey, come on.... it works in Pakistan and Brazil!
Besides, we can always propose a "final solution" to the homeless problem (see my sig line for details). ;D
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I though I tasted something that just wasnt right. you are in the tampa area right 240?
Yep. You coming to the PBW Tampa Classic in August? In St Pete I think.
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Hey, come on.... it works in Pakistan and Brasil!
I'm all for carrying an AR-15 everywhere I go. AKs are junk.
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Yep. You coming to the PBW Tampa Classic in August? In St Pete I think.
to be honest I had no idea it was going on
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Look at history - in the last 30 years, it's been a cucle of peace/conquering.
Bush did a good job at his PNAC goals - building bases, contorlling oil, establishing a presence over there.
But for longterm world success, we need to be perceived as "not the asshole anymore'
Besides, we all know that no President is allowed to fvck things up. They're kept on short leashes on things that matter.
That's a job for an advertising agency, not a state (the US of fucking A) driven by a domestic policy agenda and with more debt than the Devil, and with an economic crisis looming. You're a nice guy, but you're dreaming here if you think cleaning up your image abroad will change anything. You think powercrats like Cheney et al. give a fcuk what some European thinks about him or his country!?
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Sorry to break your balls, folks. Only reason why Obama is a legit candidate is because he's articulate and black.
He has no foreign policy experience.
He has not run anything(unlike Guliani).
He's somewhat of a conformist, much like Hillary. He's a lapdog the publics' wishes, as opposed to what's good for the nation as a whole.
More stupidity on behalf of the American public. :-\
very true,,,,bump for being the only intelligent person on getbig!
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That's a job for an advertising agency, not a state (the US of fucking A) driven by a domestic policy agenda and with more debt than the Devil, and with an economic crisis looming. You're a nice guy, but you're dreaming here if you think cleaning up your image abroad will change anything. You think powercrats like Cheney et al. give a fcuk what some European thinks about him or his country!?
no, cheney does not. Cheney was awesome for advancing US position worldwide.
However, 4 more years of thsi hyper-aggressive policy and we have Cold War II. We all know Hil/Obama will cool tensinos with Russia for a bit.
Don't be defensive - both sides' policies are correct. You just have to time it right! I don't care who wins - I just want to keep things moving - Bush kicks ass for 8 years, then Obama/Hilary heals wounds. It's necessary.
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However, the bottom 20% of our nation - the poor folk - are going to get totally screwed. They already don't pay anything in taxes, and they spend all their income at walmart.
They are the bottom 20% for a reason. Some work, but most do not, and EXPECT handouts...screw that,, you should keep what you earn?
Why should half of my paycheck go to Lakisha with 6 kids and no husband, or the group of 30 year olds hanging on the stoop? not racist, just being real.
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They are the bottom 20% for a reason. Some work, but most do not, and EXPECT handouts...screw that,, you should keep what you earn?
It's not fair. But it's life.
Our society has a bottom 20% that we have to subsidize so that they don't bring down our quality of life.
If you have a solution for 20% of the population - 60 million people - suddenly becoming homeless, hungry, sick , and violent, please share it.
If you starve them, they will climb in your window at night and kill you for food.
If you can solve the poverty problem, I'm writing in your name when I vote for president :)
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please.
Why work 30 hours a week making 10 bucks an hour? Sure, you may be able to get a little car, rent an apparment, buy some food. But 30 hours to some people is INSANE when they can make more doing NOTHING, just sitting on their ass.
Don;t give me this whole unfair bullshit. They need incentive to work and better themselves. I came from a relatively lower middle class, single parent, many kids, went to public school, and shit, I busted my ass for 10 years in school, took out loans to pay for myself, and now I am a doctor.
So leave that liberal shit somewhere else, and do not take 90% of my hard-earned-salary to give people free money. remember back to that old saying "give someone a fish--feed for a day,,,,teach them to fish".....u know the rest
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please.
Why work 30 hours a week making 10 bucks an hour? Sure, you may be able to get a little car, rent an apparment, buy some food. But 30 hours to some people is INSANE when they can make more doing NOTHING, just sitting on their ass.
Don;t give me this whole unfair bullshit. They need incentive to work and better themselves. I came from a relatively lower middle class, single parent, many kids, went to public school, and shit, I busted my ass for 10 years in school, took out loans to pay for myself, and now I am a doctor.
So leave that liberal shit somewhere else, and do not take 90% of my hard-earned-salary to give people free money. remember back to that old saying "give someone a fish--feed for a day,,,,teach them to fish".....u know the rest
dude.
listen.
i agree with you completely.
you think I'm defending their slothy, lazy, fatass ways. I'M NOT.
But, I'm a realist, and I know that 60 million starving, homeless people will make our country an unpleasant place to live.
If you want to call me a lib because I foresee longterm problems with having 60 million desperate people in our streets, that's your choice. But I'm not.
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please.
Why work 30 hours a week making 10 bucks an hour? Sure, you may be able to get a little car, rent an apparment, buy some food. But 30 hours to some people is INSANE when they can make more doing NOTHING, just sitting on their ass.
Don;t give me this whole unfair bullshit. They need incentive to work and better themselves. I came from a relatively lower middle class, single parent, many kids, went to public school, and shit, I busted my ass for 10 years in school, took out loans to pay for myself, and now I am a doctor.
So leave that liberal shit somewhere else, and do not take 90% of my hard-earned-salary to give people free money. remember back to that old saying "give someone a fish--feed for a day,,,,teach them to fish".....u know the rest
You totally missed the point of what 240 said........Doctor.... ::)
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Heres the solution to poverty and crime in America:
if you are considered the lowest 10 percent, or commit a serious crime (i.e.murder), you get deported! ;)
Criminals and people living off the system get sent to Iran and Iraq. This would serve 3 points:
1. Crime would go down to almost zero
2. Production of the lowest 10% skyrockets
3. Terrorists in Iran/Iraq would give up in day 1 when they see a bus load of these guys roll out yelling "holla, wheres my free shit at?"
I am of course kidding, but oddly, this kinda makes some sense ;)
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Heres the solution to poverty and crime in America:
if you are considered the lowest 10 percent, or commit a serious crime (i.e.murder), you get deported! ;)
Criminals and people living off the system get sent to Iran and Iraq. This would serve 3 points:
1. Crime would go down to almost zero
2. Production of the lowest 10% skyrockets
3. Terrorists in Iran/Iraq would give up in day 1 when they see a bus load of these guys roll out yelling "holla, wheres my free shit at?"
I am of course kidding, but oddly, this kinda makes some sense ;)
Number 3 is could very well happen!! ;D
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If you have a solution for 20% of the population - 60 million people - suddenly becoming homeless, hungry, sick , and violent, please share it.
We will "resettle them in the East". :D
This will be the "final solution" to the problem!
Now.... let's get the trains fired up! ;D
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You're kidding right? He's a fuccking BAPTIST MINISTER! The Christards have already had eight years in the white house from which to spew their dark-ages religious propaganda. I think that's more than enough. If one of the bible-beaters takes the GOP nomination, I'm voting Dem for the first time in my life. >:(
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no worries. I used to LOVE the flat tax in 92 when Forbes was pushing it. It's FAIR!
But, the poor 'spending class' is what makes all us middle=classers live so well :)
We can't cripple them or they'll be dying in the streets and sticking guns in our ribs in parking lots lol...
We have a saying in network marketing.
It goes: "If you wanna dine with the classes, you better cater to the masses"
240 is right!
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At this point, any way possible to keep Hillary out of office is going to have to suffice.
Obama has zero experience in dealing with other countries in any way (except for a token visit or three) and hasn't proven he can run ANYTHING whatsoever. Someone like that should scare the living hell out of EVERY American when it comes to being in office. However....
Hillary is a power hungry, corrupt to the core, lying, POS communist that would be an absolute DISASTER for the country if elected. The economy would TANK under her, other countries would laugh at the U.S. (like it or not, there isn't a Muslim country on EARTH that would respect or fear her as a leader. Japan and China would laugh at her as well). I honestly can't think of a SINGLE positive thing she'd bring to office. Nothing whatsoever.
These echo the criticism leveled against Bush in '99. :-\
Hilary might be alot of things, ...but I doubt national leaders or their press secretaries would ever consider her a moron, ...let alone publicly voice such an opinion.
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Brilliantly said! It's so annoying when people polarize the issue! Just call the Republicans the Gambinos and the Democrats the Genoveses.
And introducing Ron Paul as Ellliot Ness! ...COMING SOON TO A REPUBLIC NEAR YOU ;D