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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: NarcissisticDeity on January 05, 2008, 02:08:44 PM
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I give you Lee Labrada if bodybuilding was fixed he would be a 8 time Mr Olympia , he was handsome , articulate , college educated ( Engineering degree ) a family man , classic physique with an ' attainable ' amount of size , a great poser , well spoken , a class act , a Cuban refugee everything the sport of bodybuilding could have ask for for ever need , if they fixed contests it would make zero sense not to have him as the champ , his look would be extremely marketable and would have helped Uncle Ben get accomplish his life long goal of being on the Olympics
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Companies invest a great deal of resources in the Mr O champion, whatever his name is.
The Mr O is the one who represents the sport best during that 5 or 10 year period.
If you want a fair contest, it's the Arnold, where there was never a dominant name. A few guys won 3 or 4, but no dynasties. The O loves dynasties. After Cutler wins 3, Phil heath or JoJ will win 3.
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Why don't you just marry the guy...
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@NarcissisticDeity: Obviously you haven't seen the 1990 Olympia, because this is a perfect proof that this competition is fixed. Haney was off due to drug testing (like many others) and still won, while Labrada was certainly in a better condition..
Apart from that I couldn't agree more with your view on Labrada. He represents everything that bodybuilding should be about. His posing is pure art. It is a very sad thing that he never won the O. Bodybuilding went downhill from the 90s on.
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@NarcissisticDeity: Obviously you haven't seen the 1990 Olympia, because this is a perfect proof that this competition is fixed. Haney was off due to drug testing (like many others) and still won, while Labrada was certainly in a better condition..
Apart from that I couldn't agree more with your view on Labrada. He represents everything that bodybuilding should be about. His posing is pure art. It is a very sad thing that he never won the O. Bodybuilding went downhill from the 90s on.
I did see the 1990 Olympia and Haney was way off he looked like a shell of his former self . top pic is 90 bottom 91
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why is there a little picture of Lee Haney in the corner of this pic?
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Just watch the 1980 Olympia Arnold was out of the top six BUT who won that one and where did the 20k prize money end up???Try there never was any prize money given to Arnold now that's a FIX.You have to admit they do a great job and have always done just what they want, if you want to look at the future look at the past.
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Very short guys aren't marketable :D
LOL @ the little Haney in the corner
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Very short guys aren't marketable :D
LOL @ the little Haney in the corner
Are you kidding me? most guys in this sport are small lol I'm 5'11" and I'm one of the taller guys in my gym , this ' sport ' attracts the Napleons
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Labrada is puny,no muscle mass.
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Are you kidding me? most guys in this sport are small lol I'm 5'11" and I'm one of the taller guys in my gym , this ' sport ' attracts the Napleons
Yeah, but 5'11'' is normal and marketable and aren't Yates, Haney, Coleman close to that? Lee wasn't.
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Labrada had the best and most perfect physique bodybuilding has ever seen IMO... truly perfect.. only problem was he was too short.
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Yeah, but 5'11'' is normal and marketable and aren't Yates, Haney, Coleman close to that? Lee wasn't.
Yeah they were all right around there but the smaller man is more marketable in the sense his build is more ' attainable ' but I get what you're saying
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Yeah they were all right around there but the smaller man is more marketable in the sense his build is more ' attainable ' but I get what you're saying
I think that has more to do with muscle mass and not height. I think Bob Paris would have been the ideal marketable candidate, aside from his admission to being gay. Although when society grows up and stops being homophobic I think we could accept a gay role model. I personally think homophobia is so gay.
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I think we could accept a gay role model. I personally think homophobia is so gay.
Fags will never be role models. Society is learning to "tolerate" them, but that's not the same thing as "accepting" them, which will never happen.
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I think that has more to do with muscle mass and not height. I think Bob Paris would have been the ideal marketable candidate, aside from his admission to being gay. Although when society grows up and stops being homophobic I think we could accept a gay role model. I personally think homophobia is so gay.
Bob Paris was gay :o
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Companies invest a great deal of resources in the Mr O champion, whatever his name is.
The Mr O is the one who represents the sport best during that 5 or 10 year period.
If you want a fair contest, it's the Arnold, where there was never a dominant name. A few guys won 3 or 4, but no dynasties. The O loves dynasties. After Cutler wins 3, Phil heath or JoJ will win 3.
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"3 or 4" is not a dynasty!?! What's the definition of a "dynasty" then? You really think if a "Jay Cutler'' would have continued doing the Arnold, say another 3 times, someone would have beat him? Who? The Arnold is in the same bodybuilding arena as the Olympia. The only difference is, champion competitors like Ronnie and Jay chose to stop doing the Arnold to pursue Bodybuilding's Top Prize, The Sandow Trophy presented at the one and only Mr. Olympia Competition. Peace and Blessings.
KB
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Labrada is puny,no muscle mass.
What???????
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I don't think he was "in" with the Weiders....if ya catch my drift :-*
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Companies invest a great deal of resources in the Mr O champion, whatever his name is.
The Mr O is the one who represents the sport best during that 5 or 10 year period.
If you want a fair contest, it's the Arnold, where there was never a dominant name. A few guys won 3 or 4, but no dynasties. The O loves dynasties. After Cutler wins 3, Phil heath or JoJ will win 3.
Good point.
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hahaha bbing is not fixed, there are some cases where there was already a determined outcome no matter what the competitors looked like, eg last years mr O everyone knows that jay should not have won.. in 2001 ronnie should have got second, in 94 yates should have lost to shawn, in 90 haney should not have won.... and all the way back to 1980 were arnold made his comeback, there was always speculation over wheather he deserved to win it or not
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JoJ will win 3.
Johnnie O. Jackson?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=193619.0;attach=225094;image)
Lee looks so much more impressive here than the current Mr. O.
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the sad truth is he was too short
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Lee looks so much more impressive here than the current Mr. O.
yep.
does anyone remember an Arnold quote from one of his books that short guys shouldn't bother with bodybuilding because they're not suited to it?
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yep.
does anyone remember an Arnold quote from one of his books that short guys shouldn't bother with bodybuilding because they're not suited to it?
odd thing to say seeing as how his best friend was franco
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1980 was fixed.
2007, what a joke.
1994 was def. fair Dorian crushes everyone. 2001 was Ronnie's, people need to see the video's pics are crap.
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I feel that a crossed eyed toad will soon be mentioned.
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Johnnie O. Jackson?
Maybe he ment Dennis Wolf.
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Maybe he ment Dennis Wolf.
I would hope so, lol. Not sure what a soon to be 38 year old JOJ will be capable of in five years time.
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odd thing to say seeing as how his best friend was franco
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could have been ghostwritten. i think its in "arnolds bodybuilding for men"
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Companies invest a great deal of resources in the Mr O champion, whatever his name is.
The Mr O is the one who represents the sport best during that 5 or 10 year period.
If you want a fair contest, it's the Arnold, where there was never a dominant name. A few guys won 3 or 4, but no dynasties. The O loves dynasties. After Cutler wins 3, Phil heath or JoJ will win 3.
uh, JoJ will never ever ever ever ever be mr. o ::)
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Lee had a great physique.
his only problem was he faced competition, that, when at their very bests, were better than himself at his best.
ie.
Flex
Shawn
dorian pre-tear
Kevin
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a Cuban refugee
yeah, because being a Cuban Refugee has a lot to do with being a Mr. Olympia..
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if they fixed contests it would make zero sense not to have him as the champ
well, considering that he can stand beside dorian yates and look like Sergio Oliva, you know you might have a point!
hahahahahaha
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well, considering that he can stand beside dorian yates and look like Sergio Oliva, you know you might have a point!
hahahahahaha
Stop trolling kid
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Stop trolling kid
start opening your eyes toddler.
and besides, this coming from the man who lost the truce thread so badly he is afraid to post there anymore because he fears muscletime pics of Yates. hahahaha
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start opening your eyes toddler.
and besides, this coming from the man who lost the truce thread so badly he is afraid to post there anymore because he fears muscletime pics of Yates. hahahaha
You lied and made up quotes which I busted you on , you knowingly used photoshopped pics of Ronnie that I busted you on and you claimed every single eyewitness who was actually at the contest in question is all wrong and you're right and I lost the truce thread LMFAO this is exactly why you're not worthy of being taken seriously anymore . ;)
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You lied and made up quotes which I busted you on , you knowingly used photoshopped pics of Ronnie that I busted you on and you claimed every single eyewitness who was actually at the contest in question is all wrong and you're right and I lost the truce thread LMFAO this is exactly why you're not worthy of being taken seriously anymore . ;)
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I never posted photoshopped pics.
I never lied about quotes.
and nothing you posted could be supported by the visuals.
it was no conincidence you stopped posting when the muscletime yates pics owned your sorry ass.
hope this helps.
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I never posted photoshopped pics.
I never lied about quotes.
and nothing you posted could be supported by the visuals.
it was no conincidence you stopped posting when the muscletime yates pics owned your sorry ass.
hope this helps.
You're a lair on both accounts you made up a quote from Shawn Ray about how he comments on Dorian NOT being as hard as he was in 93 as he was in 92 , you didn't think I had the magazine and I posted his quote and busted your lying ass
and these are photoshopped and the guy who did it admitted it and you kept using them until I busted you again lol you're a lair not even worthy of being taken seriously .
Hulkster GetBig January 18th
Shawn Ray mentions dorian's 93 loss of hardess in the Flex mag review of the contest...and like ND loves to say, he was there!
No where does Shawn mention Dorian's loss of hardness that is an outright lie , you've melted down to a troll and its old.
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You're a lair on both accounts you made up a quote from Shawn Ray about how he comments on Dorian NOT being as hard as he was in 93 as he was in 92 , you didn't think I had the magazine and I posted his quote and busted your lying ass
um. I HAVE the fucking magazine too you moron ::).
shawn said dorian was bigger but not better ie he put on size at the expense of conditioning.
and this is VERIFIED by videos/pics comparing 92 to 93. just take a look at the monster midsection in 93 compared to the (relatively) trim waist of 92.
its not my fault you are too stupid to understand simple things.. :-\
you fear Muscletime. period.
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I still find it funny how you post a blurry screenshot and a screenshot taken with better resolution and you claim its 'photoshopped'
LMAO ::)
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ND doesn't post anymore on the truce thread because he not only fears dorian pics, he fears being made fun of for his lack of intelligence and reading comprehension skills..
everyone calls him out on this stuff and he is sick of being owned.
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um. I HAVE the fucking magazine too you moron ::).
shawn said dorian was bigger but not better ie he put on size at the expense of conditioning.
and this is VERIFIED by videos/pics comparing 92 to 93. just take a look at the monster midsection in 93 compared to the (relatively) trim waist of 92.
its not my fault you are too stupid to understand simple things.. :-\
you fear Muscletime. period.
You're full of shit period . NO WHERE does he say like you claim he lost hardness thats a LIE on your part you made that up and NO WHERE NO ONE in ANY magazine does it say Dorian was softer in 93 than 92 and Shawn said in his comment that Dorian was bigger THAN HIM but not better you're a tool , seriously you made up a quote and lied and didn't think you'd be called on it.
I don't fear anything you type or post you're stupid.
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I still find it funny how you post a blurry screenshot and a screenshot taken with better resolution and you claim its 'photoshopped'
LMAO ::)
No , no Hulkster my dim witted friend the colors where adjusted and the guy who did it admitted it lol any more excuses? ;)
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ND fears Flea Labrada LOL
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ND doesn't post anymore on the truce thread because he not only fears dorian pics, he fears being made fun of for his lack of intelligence and reading comprehension skills..
everyone calls him out on this stuff and he is sick of being owned.
You're not worthy of being taken seriously , I gave you a shot and you failed horribly .
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ND fears Flea Labrada LOL
So you now claim Dorian lost the 1992 Mr Olympia? lol you already claimed he lost in 1993 lol
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No , no Hulkster my dim witted friend the colors where adjusted and the guy who did it admitted it lol any more excuses? ;)
changing colours does not enhance detail buddy.
better resolution displays detail most accurately and thats why you fear Bizzy's sceencaps because they are the best screenshots yet from 99, you know, the ones that you guys have been running from?\
this is conditioning, and its a lot better than dorian's ever was:
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changing colours does not enhance detail buddy.
better resolution displays detail most accurately and thats why you fear Bizzy's sceencaps because they are the best screenshots yet from 99, you know, the ones that you guys have been running from?\
this is conditioning, and its a lot better than dorian's ever was:
it has NOTHING to do with resolution ( another lie ) it has to do with manipulating the colors for a reason it doesn't matter why it was done thats not the point , the point is , it was done and you thought it was better and you started using them and low and behold when exposed you quiting using them after you were harassed lol
these are all focredreps VHS screencaps and there was NOTHING wrong with them any more lies? ;)
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these are all focredreps VHS screencaps and there was NOTHING wrong with them any more lies?
yeah, nothing wrong with them if you think that slightly blurry resolution is acceptable:
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yeah, nothing wrong with them if you think that slightly blurry resolution is acceptable:
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lmfao slightly blurry ! anymore lies? oh and you never answered my question did Labrada win in 1992? lol
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yes, slightly blurry:
anymore lies?
no wonder you don't post much anymore.. ::)
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I still find it funny how you post a blurry screenshot and a screenshot taken with better resolution and you claim its 'photoshopped'
LMAO ::)
ronnie has oil filled calves
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yes, slightly blurry:
anymore lies?
no wonder you don't post much anymore.. ::)
Hulkster what part of bizzy admitted he photoshopped the pics did you miss? it has NOTHING to do with resolution stop arguing points no one is bitching about , and again you're a liar and you've been reduced to using worked pictures you're beyond taken seriously .
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ronnie has oil filled calves
according to three dorian nuthuggers on this board and no one else on the planet.
great. ::)
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stop arguing points no one is bitching about
no one is bitching about them only because other than you and two others, no one else thinks dorian came close to Ronnie's best.
hope this helps.
How can people be so blind to say Dorian is anywhere near Coleman? This is absurd.
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no one is bitching about them only because other than you and two others, no one else thinks dorian came close to Ronnie's best.
hope this helps.
stop trolling . ;)
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This is a picture taken from an audience member at the 2008 Mr. Olympia contest:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/ScottiDucati/421.gif)
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is this going to las 30000000000000000000000 pages like the othre thread.... ???
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lee was the man
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Shawn should have won the 94 Mr. O
According to the score cards he was the inner but some of Dorian’s friends (not going to mention names) who are very influenced in the industry changed the score cards to make Dorian win. The changing was done in front of the judges and their scores were disregarded. That is something I saw with my own eyes.
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@NarcissisticDeity: Obviously you haven't seen the 1990 Olympia, because this is a perfect proof that this competition is fixed. Haney was off due to drug testing (like many others) and still won, while Labrada was certainly in a better condition..
Apart from that I couldn't agree more with your view on Labrada. He represents everything that bodybuilding should be about. His posing is pure art. It is a very sad thing that he never won the O. Bodybuilding went downhill from the 90s on.
@ the time of the 1990 Olympia, Labrada was a weider guy and Haney was working for MD. I don't care what anyone says labrada won the 89 and 90 Olympia.
are the shows fixed? probably, but I think there's alot going on that we'll never know about. People on here make it sound like Yates couldn't win a state level show when he won his olympia's but the bottom line is that he was so far ahead of the pack he just dusted everyone else in 91-93.
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Cormier destroys LaBrada ....what was the question..
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People on here make it sound like Yates couldn't win a state level show when he won his olympia's but the bottom line is that he was so far ahead of the pack he just dusted everyone else in 91-93.
maybe so. but once he lost his arms (both of them) and his waist got incredibly massive, he started to look like garbage in many front poses..
many feel a lot of his post tear wins were undeserved and therefore, fixed..
I mean honestly, look at this: :'(
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maybe so. but once he lost his arms (both of them) and his waist got incredibly massive, he started to look like garbage in many front poses..
many feel a lot of his post tear wins were undeserved and therefore, fixed..
I mean honestly, look at this: :'(
keep it in the truce thread for god's sake.
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A rare photo of ND at the 1999 Mr. Olympia when Ronnie's victory was announced:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/ScottiDucati/421.gif)
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keep it in the truce thread for god's sake.
the truce thread is about Ronnie vs dorian.
this thread is about whether or not bb is fixed.
around the bb community, post tear dorian has become the poster boy for this theory.
its everywhere..
its easy to see why.. :-*
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maybe so. but once he lost his arms (both of them) and his waist got incredibly massive, he started to look like garbage in many front poses..
many feel a lot of his post tear wins were undeserved and therefore, fixed..
I mean honestly, look at this: :'(
Again stop trolling
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the truce thread is about Ronnie vs dorian.
this thread is about whether or not bb is fixed.
around the bb community, post tear dorian has become the poster boy for this theory.
its everywhere..
its easy to see why.. :-*
lmfao around the bb community what a tool , you're the idiot who thinks Ronnie dominated in 2001 despite losing the whole prejudging so much for what you and the ' bb community ' know again stop following me around like a lost puppy and stop trolling .
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lmfao around the bb community what a tool , you're the idiot who thinks Ronnie dominated in 2001 despite losing the whole prejudging so much for what you and the ' bb community ' know again stop following me around like a lost puppy and stop trolling .
lol following you around?
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more like correcting your idiotic posts like the rest of the board does.
you are just so bitter you lost the truce thread you don't even show your face there anyomre.
you ran home with your tail between your legs hahahaha
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lol following you around?
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more like correcting your idiotic posts like the rest of the board does.
you are just so bitter you lost the truce thread you don't even show your face there anyomre.
you ran home with your tail between your legs hahahaha
Again you're not worthy of being taken seriously , your opinion is worthless and you've melted down into a troll just looking for revenge for all the beatings you took on the truce thread from not just me
and you're the one who was on the truce thread crying how you're done with this thread NOT me ;) I don't declare anything you bore me , your opinion bores me you're just a troll and not a very smart one at that
and again how does one dominate by losing the whole prejudging I don't think you ever did answer that ;)
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A rare photo of ND at the 1999 Mr. Olympia when Ronnie's victory was announced:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/ScottiDucati/421.gif)
Discuss.
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Discuss.
Heath Ledger has some very big shoes to fit taking on that role , but like Broke Back Mountain ( which I didn't see ) he's not afraid of a challenge , but its hard to imagine making the role of the joker more memorable than Jack
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the truce thread is about Ronnie vs dorian.
this thread is about whether or not bb is fixed.
around the bb community, post tear dorian has become the poster boy for this theory.
its everywhere..
its easy to see why.. :-*
damn shawn is taking dorian to school there
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Heath Ledger has some very big shoes to fit taking on that role , but like Broke Back Mountain ( which I didn't see ) he's not afraid of a challenge , but its hard to imagine making the role of the joker more memorable than Jack
Heath Ledger is 6'1, Jack Nicholson is 5'9 - I believe that answers the question!
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Heath Ledger is 6'1, Jack Nicholson is 5'9 - I believe that answers the question!
???
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damn shawn is taking dorian to school there
yes he is.
because many feel that at least a few of dorian's post tear wins were fixed.. :-\
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yes he is.
because many feel that at least a few of dorian's post tear wins were fixed.. :-\
i guess 'many' doesnt count the people who were actually there.
i can honestly say that i have never seen or read a thread anywhere from someone who attended a yates olympia and said he did NOT deserve to win.
quite the opposite, people say it was obvious that he was the winner.
but, we'll take your opinion from the behind the keyboard in canada.
lol.
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i guess 'many' doesnt count the people who were actually there.
i can honestly say that i have never seen or read a thread anywhere from someone who attended a yates olympia and said he did NOT deserve to win.
quite the opposite, people say it was obvious that he was the winner.
but, we'll take your opinion from the behind the keyboard in canada.
lol.
yes you should considering that it is echoed by MuscleMags contest reviews in the mid 90's..
they made it quite clear that shawn should have won in 94 - and they were there as you like to say.
I have no time for people who are not well educated in the literature trying to quote stuff when they never even read it..
come back when you know more.
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ps the opinions are well verified by the visuals of dorian getting owned in 94 too..