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Title: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Bluto on January 13, 2008, 07:26:54 AM
“Fighting GSP is all I think about every day. A rematch would be very good and I’ll make sure that I will 100 per cent guarantee victory if we fight again…. I’d love to fight Matt Hughes again but I think he could walk away after his loss to St Pierre. If he does walk away from the sport, I wouldn’t be surprised after what happened the other night. Before his fight with Georges, I was really hoping I’d get another shot at Matt Hughes but after that fight, that was so embarrassing for him I don’t know how he’s going to rebound from that. I’d love to fight him again. If we can put the fight together somehow I’d love it but he’s also getting older so I don’t know what’s going to happen.” – Former welterweight champion BJ Penn
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: danielson on January 13, 2008, 07:45:40 AM
GSP would destroy him, just like Joe is going to do.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Bluto on January 13, 2008, 08:21:00 AM
GSP would destroy him, just like Joe is going to do.

does that mean youll officially bet on daddy !
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: danielson on January 13, 2008, 08:26:10 AM
does that mean youll officially bet on daddy !

Yeah, I picked him already.

Stevenson
Gonzaga
Davis
Lambert
Grove
Hardonk
Kelly
Sakara
Stout

Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Bluto on January 13, 2008, 08:29:17 AM
very well. i will soon post my pickings...
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: danielson on January 13, 2008, 08:32:03 AM
very well. i will soon post my pickings...

Everyone is probably waiting for you to make yours so they can copy. You pretty much get better every card, I wouldn't be surprised if you got them all right this time.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Bluto on January 13, 2008, 08:36:40 AM
Everyone is probably waiting for you to make yours so they can copy. You pretty much get better every card, I wouldn't be surprised if you got them all right this time.

wouldnt surprise me either to be honest  :D
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: ATHEIST on January 14, 2008, 12:10:14 PM
BJ will work Daddy, then get worked by GSP.
on another note he should just accept the fact that the got beat by Hughes, then tried to use a rib injury or whatever as an excuse.
Hughes should retire, he held the belt for a while.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: benchmstr on January 14, 2008, 07:50:37 PM
Penn doesn't have a fucking chance,st Pierre is on another level that Penn could never achieve ;)

bench
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: onlyme on January 14, 2008, 08:44:48 PM
Penn doesn't have a fucking chance,st Pierre is on another level that Penn could never achieve ;)

bench

Yea you are right, look at GSP face after their fight.  BJ doesn't have a chance ::)
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: benchmstr on January 14, 2008, 09:15:09 PM
Yea you are right, look at GSP face after their fight.  BJ doesn't have a chance ::)
fighters get better over time,very similar to how you got worse.

bench
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Geo on January 14, 2008, 09:34:25 PM
penn at 155 is top level

penn @ 170 falls into the category of "opponent"
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: onlyme on January 14, 2008, 11:51:51 PM
fighters get better over time,very similar to how you got worse.

bench

Exactly, thanks for supporting my statement.  BJ has gotten a lot better over time.  Thanks I knew you would see it my way.  Ah yes I did get worse but I am getter so thats all that counts.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: milfer on January 15, 2008, 06:07:44 AM
penn at 155 is top level

penn @ 170 falls into the category of "opponent"

very true gsp is too big and strong for bj at 170
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: danielson on January 15, 2008, 06:10:27 AM
BJ needs to worry about Joe Stevenson before he even thinks about beating GSP. He is gonna have his hands full with Daddy.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: milfer on January 16, 2008, 06:06:01 AM
BJ needs to worry about Joe Stevenson before he even thinks about beating GSP. He is gonna have his hands full with Daddy.


Agreed.


I bet on bj but he needs to take daddy seriously or he will get worked.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: MindSpin on January 16, 2008, 03:45:33 PM
Yea you are right, look at GSP face after their fight.  BJ doesn't have a chance ::)

GSP had a MAJOR eye poke in the 1st round of that fight.  Most would have succumbed to it.  Not only did he fight through it, but he also managed to beat BJ.  BJ is awesome, but GSP is better.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Bluto on January 16, 2008, 06:18:42 PM
if daddy wins over bj i wont get 100%  >:( >:(
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: onlyme on January 17, 2008, 03:06:12 AM
GSP had a MAJOR eye poke in the 1st round of that fight.  Most would have succumbed to it.  Not only did he fight through it, but he also managed to beat BJ.  BJ is awesome, but GSP is better.

It looked like more than his eye was hit after the fight.  And BJ no way would have won a decision in that fight.  If I remember right that was the first fight after the Penns sued Dana White and won (i think out of court).  No way would BJ have won that fight unless he knocked GSP out.  But I would love to see them fight again and they will. 
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Captain Equipoise on January 18, 2008, 02:41:46 PM
Penn is smoking crack if he thinks he's even close to GSP's level at the moment..
there's no way in hell he'll be beating GSP.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: americanbulldog on January 18, 2008, 03:31:35 PM
Motivated BJ is veeeery danderous. He will disturb GSP's riddum.  (In best French Canadian accent) He was giving Machida a go of it, while giving up 25+.  I think BJ will win a rematch with GSP. 
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: MindSpin on January 19, 2008, 07:22:18 AM
It looked like more than his eye was hit after the fight.  And BJ no way would have won a decision in that fight.  If I remember right that was the first fight after the Penns sued Dana White and won (i think out of court).  No way would BJ have won that fight unless he knocked GSP out.  But I would love to see them fight again and they will. 

Oh brother ::)  His eye was severely poked at the beginning of the 1st round, which hampered his eye sight and caused him to lose his focus.  He still managed to regain composure and dominate BJ for two rounds pulling off the decision.  I'll concede that it was close, but BJ got beat.

A rematch between these two would be awesome.  BJ seems to be taking his training way more seriously and GSP has improved big time in the last year.  I still think GSP would win...
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: cht868 on January 19, 2008, 07:32:10 AM
gsp will dominate bj again, matt hughes will dominate bj agaiin, hell matt serra would beat bj, bj just needs to keep his mouth shut and figth at 155 where he is strong enough to beat other guys, he is just to weak to fight elite 170 lbs
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: MindSpin on January 19, 2008, 07:37:14 AM
gsp will dominate bj again, matt hughes will dominate bj agaiin, hell matt serra would beat bj, bj just needs to keep his mouth shut and figth at 155 where he is strong enough to beat other guys, he is just to weak to fight elite 170 lbs
I don't agree with that.  BJ dominated Hughes for 2 rounds and then came into round 3 with no gas and an allegedly separated rib.  If those two fought again, I would confidently put a lot of money down on BJ.  BJ has already beaten Serra.  I think he would dispose of him with ease if they ever fought again...
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: cht868 on January 19, 2008, 07:45:36 AM
ur right about penn vs hughes one, just now remembered the fight, but do u think bj has to finish hughes in the first few rounds to win, or do u think he could survive long enough for a decision win?  i've never seen serra vs bj, do u know when that fight was
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: onlyme on January 19, 2008, 08:43:33 AM
Just be sure to post the video of BJ's fight on here as soon as you can.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Benny B on January 19, 2008, 03:22:05 PM
Just be sure to post the video of BJ's fight on here as soon as you can.
What he said
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Ruffneck on January 19, 2008, 03:45:27 PM
Based on what i saw tonight BJ looks better than ever and strong too. He would do well not to look beyond Sherk though as that will be a tough fight.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: MindSpin on January 20, 2008, 12:07:26 AM
BJ will walk right through Sherk, but not through GSP.  I'm willing to put money on it.  Let's go Onlyme....
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: LatsMcGee on January 20, 2008, 12:19:19 AM
BJ will walk right through Sherk, but not through GSP.  I'm willing to put money on it.  Let's go Onlyme....

I think BJ will beat Sherk also but I don't see the need for BJ to fight GSP again right away.  If Gomi signs with the UFC like many of the UFC marks are saying he's going to that's a big money rematch for BJ again.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: cht868 on January 20, 2008, 08:59:56 AM
GSP is too big, too strong, and oh yeah, HE HAS GREAT CARDIO...BJ wouldn't be able to last in the cage long enough to beat gsp, he may win the first round, but everybody knows he would gas by the third round and get knocked the fuck out...i really can't believe how bab bj's cardio has looked the last few times i saw him fight
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: onlyme on January 20, 2008, 09:23:22 AM
BJ will walk right through Sherk, but not through GSP.  I'm willing to put money on it.  Let's go Onlyme....

We will.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: onlyme on January 20, 2008, 09:25:02 AM
GSP is too big, too strong, and oh yeah, HE HAS GREAT CARDIO...BJ wouldn't be able to last in the cage long enough to beat gsp, he may win the first round, but everybody knows he would gas by the third round and get knocked the fuck out...i really can't believe how bab bj's cardio has looked the last few times i saw him fight

Did he look bad last night.  I saw abs on him.  He is a different fighter now that he is being 100% serious.  He has the mindset to do it. 
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: danielson on January 20, 2008, 09:44:09 AM
Did he look bad last night.  I saw abs on him.  He is a different fighter now that he is being 100% serious.  He has the mindset to do it. 

I don't think he can beat GSP. But I give credit where it is deserved, he looked pretty damn good last night.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Faust on January 20, 2008, 11:02:02 AM
I don't think Penn would take it.
St pierre is smart and will try to keep it on the feet till BJ gasses, which he will do sooner rather than later.

Do you think he would get an automatic titleshot? (Lets assume Penn beats Sherk and GSP beats Serra.)
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: danielson on January 20, 2008, 11:06:03 AM
I don't think Penn would take it.

St pierre is smart and will try to keep it on the feet till BJ gasses, which he will do sooner rather than later.
Has BJ always gassed early? Why doesn't he get in better condition for his fights? You guys think he has no heart? I heard he is well off so he doesn't need the money, but Katie Holmes ran the New York marathon, and it's kind of fucked up thinking some crazy scientology billionaire bimbo trains cardio harder than a UFC champion.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Faust on January 20, 2008, 01:50:15 PM
Has BJ always gassed early? Why doesn't he get in better condition for his fights? You guys think he has no heart? I heard he is well off so he doesn't need the money, but Katie Holmes ran the New York marathon, and it's kind of fucked up thinking some crazy scientology billionaire bimbo trains cardio harder than a UFC champion.
Maybe Katie holmes should slug it out with BJ. See who gasses first.
I think BJ trains hard, but you have to have strength, fighting skills and cardio. It's hard to train all aspects .

His conditioning has been a problem in the past. I think it's naturally a weak(er) point, something that he has to give extra attention, but maybe he doesn't do it all the time. Having said that, maybe my statement was exaggerated because i noticed how tired he was after the daddy fight, but i still think GSP would win.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: americanbulldog on January 20, 2008, 02:05:09 PM
I'll take some action in a BJ/GSP fight.  Motivated BJ is a bear to handle, and if motivated, he will stop GSP. 
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: danielson on January 20, 2008, 03:42:29 PM
I'll take some action in a BJ/GSP fight.  Motivated BJ is a bear to handle, and if motivated, he will stop GSP. 

People always say things like that, "if motivated". Do you guys think he lacks heart? He seems to be the only person who people seem to question his commitment all the time.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: onlyme on January 20, 2008, 05:18:36 PM
Has BJ always gassed early? Why doesn't he get in better condition for his fights? You guys think he has no heart? I heard he is well off so he doesn't need the money, but Katie Holmes ran the New York marathon, and it's kind of fucked up thinking some crazy scientology billionaire bimbo trains cardio harder than a UFC champion.

I've watched BJ unlike you guys.  For a fight he trains in the gym twice day.  He has 8 to 10+ guys helping him train.  They all go in the ring and on the mat with him and then do abs and cardio.  And how hard do you think you have to train for a marathon.  Unless you are doing it for a living or super serious about your running it doesn't take much.  You can walk it if you want.  My daughter has ran in the last 4 Honolulu Marathons and finished 3 of them.  She starts running the Monday before the event when her husbands dad comes in from Japan.  That is less than 7 days.  So don't try to compare a weekend runner with a champion UFC fighter.  I really thought you guys had some knowledge.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Hedgehog on January 20, 2008, 11:48:42 PM
I've watched BJ unlike you guys.  For a fight he trains in the gym twice day.  He has 8 to 10+ guys helping him train.  They all go in the ring and on the mat with him and then do abs and cardio.  And how hard do you think you have to train for a marathon.  Unless you are doing it for a living or super serious about your running it doesn't take much.  You can walk it if you want.  My daughter has ran in the last 4 Honolulu Marathons and finished 3 of them.  She starts running the Monday before the event when her husbands dad comes in from Japan.  That is less than 7 days.  So don't try to compare a weekend runner with a champion UFC fighter.  I really thought you guys had some knowledge.

Talk is cheap bro.




Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Captain Equipoise on January 21, 2008, 09:41:16 PM
GSP is a machine, when he is on his game, he's unbeatable.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Geo on January 21, 2008, 10:35:30 PM
People always say things like that, "if motivated". Do you guys think he lacks heart? He seems to be the only person who people seem to question his commitment all the time.

I think he probably gets a bad rap because he gassed against hughes that time...

I like Penn,I think he'll dominate now that he's back down to 155
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: onlyme on January 21, 2008, 11:58:40 PM
Talk is cheap bro.






What does that mean.  Where am I just talking there.  Those are all facts.  Sorry to dissappoint you.  Sorry I owned you again Hedgey but sometimes you just ask for it.  By the way I watched the Best of the UFC 2007.  In every match in the 2nd round the guys were breathing hard.  OH MY GOD! they are in such bad shape.  How dare they call themselves professional fighters ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Hedgehog on January 22, 2008, 06:18:05 AM
What does that mean.  Where am I just talking there.  Those are all facts.  Sorry to dissappoint you.  Sorry I owned you again Hedgey but sometimes you just ask for it.  By the way I watched the Best of the UFC 2007.  In every match in the 2nd round the guys were breathing hard.  OH MY GOD! they are in such bad shape.  How dare they call themselves professional fighters ::) ::) ::) ::)


That you should do a marathon. Walking, or running.

And how hard do you think you have to train for a marathon.  Unless you are doing it for a living or super serious about your running it doesn't take much.  You can walk it if you want.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: onlyme on January 22, 2008, 10:21:25 AM

That you should do a marathon. Walking, or running.


Holy shit I can barely walk a half mile now without gassing.  I could have walked 26 miles back before what happened.  But I would never do it. Maybe on a moped.
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: americanbulldog on January 22, 2008, 12:10:41 PM
BJ was finishing Franca in training both on the ground and on their feet.  He will wreck Sherk, then derail GSP. 
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: MindSpin on January 22, 2008, 01:19:36 PM
More than anything, I want to see the BJ/Hughes rubber match.  Unfortunately, I don't see that happening...
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: americanbulldog on January 22, 2008, 10:15:34 PM
I don't think Matt wants any part of BJ, at this point in their respective careers. 
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: Benny B on January 23, 2008, 09:13:42 PM
I don't think Matt wants any part of BJ, at this point in their respective careers. 
yep.  ;)
Title: Re: BJ Penn guarantees win over Georges St. Pierre in rematch
Post by: danielson on January 24, 2008, 08:52:43 AM
I don't think Matt wants any part of BJ, at this point in their respective careers. 

I agree with you, but can you think of any other matchup for Matt to make one last good payday? Serra, because of the bad blood might go over well too. I think that Matt would risk a small part of his legacy for the right price. I don't think that Hughes-BJ is strong enough to headline though. Maybe in England where the cards all suck :P