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whats up boys.... long time no talk.. how is everyone?
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Good bluesfan how about you? Nice to see you drop in.
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its been just fine... i have been gone for a while.. got freaked out about the whole raw deal shit.... crying ass shame the resources the governmnet has wasted to bust losers like 50 cent for steroids.. what a fucking joke.. a pure fucking joke
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its been just fine... i have been gone for a while.. got freaked out about the whole raw deal shit.... crying ass shame the resources the governmnet has wasted to bust losers like 50 cent for steroids.. what a fucking joke.. a pure fucking joke
They busted him for Juice? WTF, I'd think they could do better...
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Hey stranger!
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There was a big rejuvination clinic bust up in NY City which had a lot of rap clients such as Wyclef, Mary J. Blige and 50 Cent among others.
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There was a big rejuvination clinic bust up in NY City which had a lot of rap clients such as Wyclef, Mary J. Blige and 50 Cent among others.
Word
By the way John, maybe the weed was making you paranoid?
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By the way John, maybe the weed was making you paranoid?
no, fuckstick, the DEA coming to my front door after Chris death made me a little paranoid.
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no, fuckstick, the DEA coming to my front door after Chris death made me a little paranoid.
How's taht go?
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i prefer not to go into the whole thing for security reasons, but long story short, they had a package with my name on it in an evidence bag, they threatened to take me to jail, i told them i didnt know anything about it.... they kept hammering me with questions and I kept denying it and then they left and told me they were watching me and that not cooperating with them was going to land me in jail.. that was over 2 months ago
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the package they had was setting in the house of genpharma when they raided it
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no, fuckstick, the DEA coming to my front door after Chris death made me a little paranoid.
Hey man, I am sorry. Was not trying to be an asshole nor disrepectful
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the package they had was setting in the house of genpharma when they raided it
bad luck...
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i prefer not to go into the whole thing for security reasons, but long story short, they had a package with my name on it in an evidence bag
why would you use your real name?
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Hey man, I am sorry. Was not trying to be an asshole nor disrepectful
HAHAHA BB dont take that serious he's just busting your balls. Thats just BJBF! LMAO Whats going down Johnny? Glad everything turned out OK for you bro!
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Hey man, I am sorry. Was not trying to be an asshole nor disrepectful
thats ok man... it was kind of funny what you said, I was not offended
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HAHAHA BB dont take that serious he's just busting your balls. Thats just BJBF! LMAO Whats going down Johnny? Glad everything turned out OK for you bro!
hey brother... how the heck are you? I have been out of the game for a while.... you know what DIV says though, once you go to the darkside, you are gone for good
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i heard the doctor from benoit was perscribing steroids under fake names to these ppl in hollywood no?
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thats ok man... it was kind of funny what you said, I was not offended
Cool, but nothing funny about what you had to go thru. I am just lucky I did not get a knock on the door too.
Glad you are back...this place needs a bit of your off the wall humor ;D
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Cool, but nothing funny about what you had to go thru. I am just lucky I did not get a knock on the door too.
Glad you are back...this place needs a bit of your off the wall humor ;D
thank you... i guess i really didnt go through much.... i dont think they cared to much about the users.... but you can imagine how my wife felt about DEA coming to the house
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"why would you use your real name?" Big Tymer <-
AHHAHA the DEA isn't stupid, if you use fake name or whatever they will still show up at your door if they want to arrest you, if you think you can outsmart LE you are not to smart, that is their job, they are their all day while you work doing something else, so they will find you. Just depends if they actually care to find and arrest you, usually not for most.
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The #1 mistake criminals make is underestimating LE. Glad things worked out for you though, that shit will definitely rattle you.
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Blue I am glad as well everything is fine, I guess they wanted to see if you would talk and had nothing on you, who knows, anyhow good you are ok and nice to see you back here.
jt
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Blue I am glad as well everything is fine, I guess they wanted to see if you would talk and had nothing on you, who knows, anyhow good you are ok and nice to see you back here.
jt
the weird thing is that the owner of the Lab the package came from, God bless his soul, is dead, so when they showed up, I thought for sure they would arrest me... at any rate, it scared the shit out of me and my wife was pretty upset. She had previously just let me do my own thing and understood i am a bodybuilder and use roids... well she is a smart girl and understands that its not that big a deal, but when DEA came, it was basicallythe end of the rope for her... she just made me assure her that i had learned my lesson... the DEA guys ere not really too bad.. i was just freaked out.... i mean, i live in a nice neighborhood and i came home from work and next thing you know they ree knocking on the door....
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check your pm tsunami
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Is that the lab owner that when they came to bust him he shot himself instead of having to talk?
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Is that the lab owner that when they came to bust him he shot himself instead of having to talk?
Yes that is him, but he had been arrested and bonded out. The good brother had a lot of other things going on in his life as well.
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hey brother... how the heck are you? I have been out of the game for a while.... you know what DIV says though, once you go to the darkside, you are gone for good
Oh yeah. Ive been good bro. Good to see you back.
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the weird thing is that the owner of the Lab the package came from, God bless his soul, is dead, so when they showed up, I thought for sure they would arrest me... at any rate, it scared the shit out of me and my wife was pretty upset. She had previously just let me do my own thing and understood i am a bodybuilder and use roids... well she is a smart girl and understands that its not that big a deal, but when DEA came, it was basicallythe end of the rope for her... she just made me assure her that i had learned my lesson... the DEA guys ere not really too bad.. i was just freaked out.... i mean, i live in a nice neighborhood and i came home from work and next thing you know they ree knocking on the door....
Dude, that would have freaked me out too! My girl is tolerrant as well but that would not have been cool.
Bet the bastards did not even leave you the "pack" you ordered? Sure all the cops involved in Raw Deal have their medicine cabinets filled at home now.
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BULLSHIT....
i have nothing against john but if the DEA comes and knocks on your door with a pack that has your name on it, they aren't going to turn around and leave empty handed.
but i'll give john the benefit of the doubt.
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whats up boys.... long time no talk.. how is everyone?
......return of the Voodoo Child.
Get busy child.
DIV
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So Johnny...how long you sticking around for now?
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i have nothing against john but if the DEA comes and knocks on your door with a pack that has your name on it, they aren't going to turn around and leave empty handed.
but i'll give john the benefit of the doubt.
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listen man, i know it sounds like bullshit, and in fact that fucking zeek guy told a similar story about 2 DEA coming to his house a ouple years ago on here, and I ragged on his ass forever, but this is really what happened. Did you hear what I said? MY PACKAGE WAS SETTING IN THE GENPHARMA HOUSE WHEN HE GOT BUSTED. He sent me a tracking number and then I never got my package, so i knew what happened. i cleaned house. 2 of them came and they had the package in a plastic bag. they were both nice for the most part. They had my wife driver license photocopy and mine, and they also had a search warrant and arrest warrant. They kept telling me that they didnt want to take me to jail, and they just wanted information. i basically told them that i knew nothing and that even if I ever did use steroids that I am done with it now. i was prepared to go to jail before talking. i asked them if they were going to arrest me or not and they finally left.
Bro I was broken down a bit about Chris death. I knew him on a first name basis and had been friends with him for a couple years. i appreciate you saying you give me the benefit of the doubt, but to even be questioned about this hurts my feelings. I have nothing to prove and if anyone doesn't believ me, they can fuck off. I still care enough to say that people should be very careful and I personally wouldn't touch domestic right now if I were any of you. This is the truth, every word of it. You can take it or leave it, but I mentioned it for the benefit of everyone in here. QWith things the way they are, I dont think tjis is any time for joking. At least if what happened to me happened to any of you, You would realize it is no joke.
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i have nothing against john but if the DEA comes and knocks on your door with a pack that has your name on it, they aren't going to turn around and leave empty handed.
but i'll give john the benefit of the doubt.
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bro anothher thing is that when people hear DEA they think they have to come from Washington or Langley or some shit, but these guys pulled up in an Excursion and they were from the local DEA office. These fuckers have local offices all over the place and I live in a huge city... the damn office is actually right downtown close to my condo...
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Yeah even though they had a package with his name on it does not mean they can do anything, he did not have possesion of it. Did they show you the arrest warrant and search warrant? Cause if they went through the trouble of getting them, don't think they could have had an arrest warrant though, they probally would have executed them.
Will say kind of surprised they did not execute the search warrant if they really had one?
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why would you use your real name?
Because then you'd add another offense to the list.
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John, Check your PM's.
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Yeah even though they had a package with his name on it does not mean they can do anything, he did not have possesion of it. Did they show you the arrest warrant and search warrant? Cause if they went through the trouble of getting them, don't think they could have had an arrest warrant though, they probally would have executed them.
Will say kind of surprised they did not execute the search warrant if they really had one?
they dfinitely had a search warrant because they showed it to me and it was signed by a judge. they didnt execute the warrant. I believe its because the bust of genpharma was public information so they figured anybody in their right mind would have cleaned house, which i did. I am still not sure about the arrest warrant but I asked them if they had one and they said yes. They knew where I worked and that scared the shit out of me too. They told me that there was no reason to ruin my life over a few bottles. They said they could charge me with a felony.... look, i dont want to rehash the shit all over again... it sucked a big dick and i just cant believe you guys think I would make it up... what the fuck would I want to make it up for? I work 50 hours a week and train 12 hours a week..come on guys.....
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Yeah even though they had a package with his name on it does not mean they can do anything, he did not have possesion of it. Did they show you the arrest warrant and search warrant? Cause if they went through the trouble of getting them, don't think they could have had an arrest warrant though, they probally would have executed them.
Will say kind of surprised they did not execute the search warrant if they really had one?
I told them this very thing by the way, that they couldnt arrest me because i didnt have possession, and they told me they have a warrant because they have email records (which they did because they had genpharmas email and were responding to them, ask whitewidow) that show me placing orders for illegal substances...i dont know if this would have held up in court and I dont want to know
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they dfinitely had a search warrant because they showed it to me and it was signed by a judge. they didnt execute the warrant. I believe its because the bust of genpharma was public information so they figured anybody in their right mind would have cleaned house, which i did. I am still not sure about the arrest warrant but I asked them if they had one and they said yes. They knew where I worked and that scared the shit out of me too. They told me that there was no reason to ruin my life over a few bottles. They said they could charge me with a felony.... look, i dont want to rehash the shit all over again... it sucked a big dick and i just cant believe you guys think I would make it up... what the fuck would I want to make it up for? I work 50 hours a week and train 12 hours a week..come on guys.....
I dont think you made it up. Was just trying to figure out more of it. But yeah i can believe you would want to just let it go.
A bud of mine a while ago, not related to this recent stuff, got a visit from DEA once while at work. They asked him some questions, scared him and went away. It was about some orders he had made.
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bjbf! long time brotha, haven talked to you in forever, i remember you saved me from gettin ripped off bro
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Question, who knows the maximum punishment for simple possession? I've heard several things and have read bit and pieces in a few article in the past but I've never been 100% clear on this.
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That's a good question, Steroids are a schedule III drug right?
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That's a good question, Steroids are a schedule III drug right?
Yes but there are some weird things about the law itself. For instance with other schedule 3 drugs simple possession is a big deal. With AAS, possession is only illegal without a prescription...so technically it's not illegal to possess, but rather to distribute. How does this change things if it does?
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Yes but there are some weird things about the law itself. For instance with other schedule 3 drugs simple possession is a big deal. With AAS, possession is only illegal without a prescription...so technically it's not illegal to possess, but rather to distribute. How does this change things if it does?
Right because I believe one could claim that using say testosterone is for self medication whereas you can't really claim that with Heroin. I know there are state laws in addition to federal laws and they differ from state to state. Like Medicinal Marijuana is legal at the state level here in Cali but it's still a federal crime. And I'm not really sure to be honest how that's handled, but I believe federal regulations would supersede any state mandates if it was a big enough case. Simple possession is something I honestly don't know about.
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Yes but there are some weird things about the law itself. For instance with other schedule 3 drugs simple possession is a big deal. With AAS, possession is only illegal without a prescription...so technically it's not illegal to possess, but rather to distribute. How does this change things if it does?
The way to get around this is to go on HRT.
With a legal script, your testosterone wouldn't be questioned and you're liable to be left alone.
.....of course it all depends on how big your stash is.
As far as Bigjohn goes, I have no reason to disbelief him.
Chris had several orders that hadn't been shipped yet at the time of his suicide.
.......even I had no idea he was dealing with addiction. :-X
DIV
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listen man, i know it sounds like bullshit, and in fact that fucking zeek guy told a similar story about 2 DEA coming to his house a ouple years ago on here, and I ragged on his ass forever, but this is really what happened. Did you hear what I said? MY PACKAGE WAS SETTING IN THE GENPHARMA HOUSE WHEN HE GOT BUSTED. He sent me a tracking number and then I never got my package, so i knew what happened. i cleaned house. 2 of them came and they had the package in a plastic bag. they were both nice for the most part. They had my wife driver license photocopy and mine, and they also had a search warrant and arrest warrant. They kept telling me that they didnt want to take me to jail, and they just wanted information. i basically told them that i knew nothing and that even if I ever did use steroids that I am done with it now. i was prepared to go to jail before talking. i asked them if they were going to arrest me or not and they finally left.
Bro I was broken down a bit about Chris death. I knew him on a first name basis and had been friends with him for a couple years. i appreciate you saying you give me the benefit of the doubt, but to even be questioned about this hurts my feelings. I have nothing to prove and if anyone doesn't believ me, they can fuck off. I still care enough to say that people should be very careful and I personally wouldn't touch domestic right now if I were any of you. This is the truth, every word of it. You can take it or leave it, but I mentioned it for the benefit of everyone in here. QWith things the way they are, I dont think tjis is any time for joking. At least if what happened to me happened to any of you, You would realize it is no joke.
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Question, who knows the maximum punishment for simple possession? I've heard several things and have read bit and pieces in a few article in the past but I've never been 100% clear on this.
i always didnt worry about odering and all that shit cause i figured it is just simple possession, but remember that when you order steroids from another state or country, you are commiting a FEDERAL OFFENSE because you are commiting a crime across state lines.... if you still a piece of gum in florida, and then drive it across the state line into Georgia and sell it, it is a federal charge of trafficking in stolen property
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i always didnt worry about odering and all that shit cause i figured it is just simple possession, but remember that when you order steroids from another state or country, you are commiting a FEDERAL OFFENSE because you are commiting a crime across state lines.... if you still a piece of gum in florida, and then drive it across the state line into Georgia and sell it, it is a federal charge of trafficking in stolen property
How much was the order you placed with Chris, the one left at his place after it was raided?
DIV
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How much was the order you placed with Chris, the one left at his place after it was raided?
DIV
it was only a couple bottles of test, a bottle of deca, and some d-bol..... it wasnt really shit....it was about a $250.00 order
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Question, who knows the maximum punishment for simple possession? I've heard several things and have read bit and pieces in a few article in the past but I've never been 100% clear on this.
It'll depend on how much you have. You could get anywhere from probation to a lengthy prison sentence.
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It'll depend on how much you have. You could get anywhere from probation to a lengthy prison sentence.
Yes possesion of a relatively small amount of juice could get you thrown in jail. My guess is if its a small amount and you have a clean record you will get off with not actual jail time, but expect fines, mandatory rehab type stuff, probation, community service maybe and of course a felony charge. Plus the I'm guessing 7-10 grand in lawyer fees.
Pretty much get caught with them again and go to jail for a while.
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Who in the world is busting these guys, I can't imagine local LE because the local LE around here I know ask to buy AAS all the time and give out favors for that shit. So I assume DEA is sending ppl to jail not local LE?
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Yes possesion of a relatively small amount of juice could get you thrown in jail. My guess is if its a small amount and you have a clean record you will get off with not actual jail time, but expect fines, mandatory rehab type stuff, probation, community service maybe and of course a felony charge. Plus the I'm guessing 7-10 grand in lawyer fees.
Pretty much get caught with them again and go to jail for a while.
I'm aware of this but have just been curious as to what is actually written down in the books. You know, what does the actual written law say? I'm sure I could search this out but you know how it is...sometimes bullshitting on the boards is more fun, lol!
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I'm aware of this but have just been curious as to what is actually written down in the books. You know, what does the actual written law say? I'm sure I could search this out but you know how it is...sometimes bullshitting on the boards is more fun, lol!
sentencing and laws vary from state to state. Unless it is a federal offense, then state law would apply. For example, if you get busted with a small joint in my city in florida, they will arrest you, take you to jail, and you have to appear before the judge. If you got busted for the same joint in San Francisco, they write you a ticket and there is no arrest or record. hell, in San Fran they may not even write tickets for it anymore. I know that is what they used to do.
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Yes possesion of a relatively small amount of juice could get you thrown in jail. My guess is if its a small amount and you have a clean record you will get off with not actual jail time, but expect fines, mandatory rehab type stuff, probation, community service maybe and of course a felony charge. Plus the I'm guessing 7-10 grand in lawyer fees.
Pretty much get caught with them again and go to jail for a while.
Yes.......but the catch is, what is considered a "user amount" vs. "distribution amount"?
There has to be Federal guidelines for that.
It's hard to rationalize going to jail or paying a large fine for simply possessing anabolic substances.
Not when there are drug dealers running rampant all over the country selling to kids.
I doubt LE places AAS dealers/users high on the priority.
DIV
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Yes.......but the catch is, what is considered a "user amount" vs. "distribution amount"?
There has to be Federal guidelines for that.
It's hard to rationalize going to jail or paying a large fine for simply possessing anabolic substances.
Not when there are drug dealers running rampant all over the country selling to kids.
I doubt LE places AAS dealers/users high on the priority.
DIV
Yes that is where they get you. Pretty sure each state is different? But did read a lot of that guy Rick Collins's take and experience defending these cases. He said there is a misconception in the courts about intent to sell and personal use and that he sees many cases where a guy with a 500 d-bol tabs (5mg) get charged with intent to sell. But in reality we all know thats just enough for a part of ones 16 week cycle.
Basically he said that people get miss charged with intent to sell all too often because the courts do not understand or want to understand the the difference in personal use and intent to sell possesions. I believe intent to sell first offense has a max 5 year jail term and $250,000 fines and all that other good stuff.
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Yes that is where they get you. Pretty sure each state is different? But did read a lot of that guy Rick Collins's take and experience defending these cases. He said there is a misconception in the courts about intent to sell and personal use and that he sees many cases where a guy with a 500 d-bol tabs (5mg) get charged with intent to sell. But in reality we all know thats just enough for a part of ones 16 week cycle.
Basically he said that people get miss charged with intent to sell all too often because the courts do not understand or want to understand the the difference in personal use and intent to sell possesions. I believe intent to sell first offense has a max 5 year jail term and $250,000 fines and all that other good stuff.
All that other stuff...are you talking about gang rape in the shower?
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All that other stuff...are you talking about gang rape in the shower?
LOL :'( :'(
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with all the drama going on with congressional hearings, marion jones, baseball, etc. etc.....LE will be stricter now than ever. even on a local level.
steroids are the "new thing" as far as drug enforcement goes. the days of reporting about huge weed, coke busts are over unless its caught coming over the mexican border.
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All that other stuff...are you talking about gang rape in the shower?
.....never me, baby Arnold.
If I was ever faced with that situation, I'd kill or be killed.
And if I killed, I'd probably be in prison for the rest of my life.
With my dignity intact.
with all the drama going on with congressional hearings, marion jones, baseball, etc. etc.....LE will be stricter now than ever. even on a local level.
steroids are the "new thing" as far as drug enforcement goes. the days of reporting about huge weed, coke busts are over unless its caught coming over the mexican border.
I don't buy in to that Wesley.
Narcotics are and will always be "the big thing" for LE.
AAS are a hot item, but not close in terms of scrutiny.
I think we learned though, if the Feds have the goods on you, you'd better not lie because you will never get out of it.
Bonds, Tejada, Clemens will find out shortly.
I don't have anything against Bonds personally and I kind of respect him for doing what he wants regardless of what other people think.
I just find it sad how he's tainted now regardless of what happens with his case.
He didn't need the AAS, GH to play baseball...........just to reach that HR record.
He did choose the Darkside.
DIV
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with all the drama going on with congressional hearings, marion jones, baseball, etc. etc.....LE will be stricter now than ever. even on a local level.
steroids are the "new thing" as far as drug enforcement goes. the days of reporting about huge weed, coke busts are over unless its caught coming over the mexican border.
I doubt it. Most local LE don't know a steroid from a hemorrhoid.
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I doubt it. Most local LE don't know a steroid from a hemorrhoid.
this is so true. those DEA guys thought nolvadex is a bulking steroid, they also said some other dumb shit that made me wonder whast they were doing working for a drug enforcement agency.... and speaking of gang rape, i would be about like andy dufrane was in shawshank redemption except i am quite a bit more pysically capable than he was... i was still worried the end result was going to be going to jail, and them trying to turn me into a wes mantooth
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I doubt it. Most local LE don't know a steroid from a hemorrhoid.
You know, if I was one of you guys (ie someone who used anabolics) that statement above would be the single one thing that would scare me more than anything else.
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this is so true. those DEA guys thought nolvadex is a bulking steroid, they also said some other dumb shit that made me wonder whast they were doing working for a drug enforcement agency.... and speaking of gang rape, i would be about like andy dufrane was in shawshank redemption except i am quite a bit more pysically capable than he was... i was still worried the end result was going to be going to jail, and them trying to turn me into a wes mantooth
LOL...you dont want to be a mantooth!!!!
thats my point though...i think luv said it too, 100 dbol is nothing to us, but to a LE retard its enough to arrest you for distribution. now, get a lawyer who know something, you should be fine....get a public defender and a judge that wants to make an example???
dont feel safe cause you only have a little bit....treat a bottle of test like a kilo of coke.....
safety first
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LOL...you dont want to be a mantooth!!!!
thats my point though...i think luv said it too, 100 dbol is nothing to us, but to a LE retard its enough to arrest you for distribution. now, get a lawyer who know something, you should be fine....get a public defender and a judge that wants to make an example???
dont feel safe cause you only have a little bit....treat a bottle of test like a kilo of coke.....
safety first
Or just go the legal route and get a prescription!
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Or just go the legal route and get a prescription!
x10. If you are over 30, you owe to yourself. I'm thankful I did finally =)
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I doubt it. Most local LE don't know a steroid from a hemorrhoid.
Aren't most LE on steroids?
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Aren't most LE on steroids?
Where do you think all the gear went from ORD? Straight into the glutes of LE....
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Where do you think all the gear went from ORD? Straight into the glutes of LE....
No way, cops have the best dope.
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No way, cops have the best dope.
I was kinda being facetious, but I wouldn't doubt if the better stuff seized ended up in some of the guys stashes.
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I was kinda being facetious, but I wouldn't doubt if the better stuff seized ended up in some of the guys stashes.
I doubt they use the dog and pony picture on it shit...
Take a look at a Police & Fire PLing meet.... Takes a lot of doughnuts get as big as sum of them.
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I dunno, hearing some stories from some of the firefighters I used to know it wouldn't surprise me some of the shit some cops pull heh.
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I dunno, hearing some stories from some of the firefighters I used to know it wouldn't surprise me some of the shit some cops pull heh.
Oh God,,,, they had a major Coke dealing bust awhile back by me....
Shit.... A coked up FireFighter can get his boots on faster than a drinker.
It raised a big stink in the Dept.
They should leave AAS alone unless someone is out of line.
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what kind of LE are we talking when you guys say LE, local or DEA federal?
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Firefighters dealing coke? Haha, I'm not laughing in surprise, it just sounds very similar to some of the guys I used to know =)
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what kind of LE are we talking when you guys say LE, local or DEA federal?
DEA guy did a show here and was juiced to the gills...he is in the weed department though so it is ok for him to juice ;)
They did kindly ask that he not compete anymore, did not look good for the department is what they told him
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DEA guy did a show here and was juiced to the gills...he is in the weed department though so it is ok for him to juice ;)
They did kindly ask that he not compete anymore, did not look good for the department is what they told him
Apparently the Arlington Police Department didn't have a problem when Ronnie competed
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Apparently the Arlington Police Department didn't have a problem when Ronnie competed
I just don't see how they let him compete in the first place. DEA is DEA no matter what division he is in. Guess all the co workers knew he was using, never discussed until after the show.
The whole time I am talking with him, I was thinking how hypocritical he was being?!? He goes and busts big shipments of weed coming into the country yet using gear that more than likely came into the country somehow.. :-\
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I just don't see how they let him compete in the first place. DEA is DEA no matter what division he is in. Guess all the co workers knew he was using, never discussed until after the show.
The whole time I am talking with him, I was thinking how hypocritical he was being?!? He goes and busts big shipments of weed coming into the country yet using gear that more than likely came into the country somehow.. :-\
Welcome to the government, bro. ;)
DIV
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Apparently the Arlington Police Department didn't have a problem when Ronnie competed
I've never understood that. I mean if it's obvious that anyone is on gear, it's Ronnie. Can't say I blame them though. I know I wouldn't want to be the guy that had to tell him.
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No matter what ya think of GH15 I think hes right about this - If the Govt wanted to they could bust every Pro BBer with not much work at all.
The Govt IS making a point of bringing shame and loss on Sports Stars for steroid use, but as Mr15 says,
BBing is like the WWE. Its a cult thing. Not to be taken seriously.
Also, his theory (well, fact according to him as He's the self proclaimed global "God" of steroids) ;D
is that the Govt is not so concerned, and even has a interest in the underground AAS market being filled to a certain extent.
I dont doubt that personally, and it would be WAY better if who filled that market is NOT PPL out to
destroy the free world. Because that market WILL and Is being filled. All markets are.
Politics make strange bedfellows. Shit gets twisted.
Steroid is not the dangerous drug that some with selfserving motives have led ignorant politicians to believe need be schII drugs.
They are not a completely troublefree or harmless drug either, none are. But they can provide tremendous benefit w/ very low risk if one knows waht they are doing and has real stuff.
Those 2 factors appear to be in small supply though.
Jinnis out of the bottle, steroids become outrageous popular, Govt will need to accept that and think a step ahead to what their policies reactions cause .
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I've never understood that. I mean if it's obvious that anyone is on gear, it's Ronnie. Can't say I blame them though. I know I wouldn't want to be the guy that had to tell him.
LOL! I thought of that when I was watching his "Unbelievable" DVD. Scene when he is putting on his custom made vest and uniform made me think that either they are really stupid in Texas and believed him when he was preaching that he was Natural or they were too chicken shit to say anything..
I know if he pulled me over, I would just run, no way he is catching anyone after 10 yards! :D
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LOL! I thought of that when I was watching his "Unbelievable" DVD. Scene when he is putting on his custom made vest and uniform made me think that either they are really stupid in Texas and believed him when he was preaching that he was Natural or they were too chicken shit to say anything..
I know if he pulled me over, I would just run, no way he is catching anyone after 10 yards! :D
Coleman was somewhat of a celebrity when he was a cop.
Of course they knew he wasn't natural.
But everyone liked him, so why rain on the parade?
He brought them some media attention, I'm sure.
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