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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Ron on January 21, 2008, 12:46:31 PM
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With Victor out of the lineup, some people are going to be very happy. Victor's injury possibly cost him $130,000.
Here is the prize breakdown for the Arnold Classic...
Arnold Classic GB Breakdown
Best Poser $10,000
1st Place $130,000 plus Audemars Piquet Watch
2nd Place $70,000
3rd Place $50,000
4th Place $30,000
5th Place $15,000
6th Place $10,000
7th Place $1,000
8th Place $1,000
9th Place $1,000
10th Place $1,000
11th Place $1,000
12th Place $1,000
13th Place $1,000
14th Place $1,000
15th Place $1,000
Fitness International GB Breakdown
1st Place $25,000
2nd Place $12,500
3rd Place $8,000
4th Place $5,000
5th Place $3,000
6th Place $2,000
Figure International GB Breakdown
1st Place $15,000
2nd Place $10,000
3rd Place $8,000
4th Place $5,000
5th Place $3,500
6th Place $2,000
Ms. International GB Breakdown
1st Place $25,000
2nd Place $12,500
3rd Place $8,000
4th Place $5,000
5th Place $3,000
6th Place $2,000
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pathetic prize money except top 3. For the other competitors bb is just a expensive hobby, not a sport.
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A wise man once said, "Cash Rules Everything Around Me - CREAM".
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Pathetic prize money ALL around. 130,000$ for first prize. Foootball/baseball players probably make that in like 3 days :)..boxers sometimes get like 10 million for one fight.
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More than Mr O....
What would happen if they double the price money?? Would we see better guys. Like now there is only about 6 bb pros who are great.
Actually I don't understand why they don't double the price money. I'm for sure the Arnold event would go plus anyway.
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Pathetic prize money ALL around. 130,000$ for first prize. Foootball/baseball players probably make that in like 3 days ..boxers sometimes get like 10 million for one fight.
As usual, we have a joker that compares bodybuilding, a niche sport, to the biggest two sports in the US. Enough already!
We have an event that gives the pros some of the richest prize money out there, so just be happy! When you can garner a television deal, and bring 30-60 thousand people per game to the event, then we can talk.
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As usual, we have a joker that compares bodybuilding, a niche sport, to the biggest two sports in the US. Enough already!
We have an event that gives the pros some of the richest prize money out there, so just be happy! When you can garner a television deal, and bring 30-60 thousand people per game to the event, then we can talk.
Eh, its more along the lines that the Weiders are multi millionaires and can only shell out 155,000$ for the olympia. Not a joker, but its disgusting how the Weiders are probably SO filthy rich and the competitors suffer. Then again, it was their choice to be professional bodybuilders, so I guess they will have to get by on that. Oh well, it's not me :)
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BODYBUILDERS MAKE NO FUCKING MONEY BECAUSE THEY DON'T GENERATE ANY FUCKING MONEY. >:(
/meltdown.
How many times do I need to point this out? ??? Whatever occupation you choose in life, you get compensation based on the overall value you provide to the economy, and for bodybuilding, that isn't very much. If you don't like it, choose another "job".
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BODYBUILDERS MAKE NO FUCKING MONEY BECAUSE THEY DON'T GENERATE ANY FUCKING MONEY. >:(
/meltdown.
How many times do I need to point this out? ??? Whatever occupation you choose in life, you get compensation based on the overall value you provide to the economy, and for bodybuilding, that isn't very much. If you don't like it, choose another "job".
Yeah, but obviously the Weiders are extremely wealthy! Do they shell out the cash for competitions or does it come from somewhere else?
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they can't even get the 2 biggest events in bodybuilding on TV..there are like 300 channels that broadcast crap like "ice fishing" and "learn how to train your pet hamster"...yet bodybuilding they won't air.
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Yeah, but obviously the Weiders are extremely wealthy! Do they shell out the cash for competitions or does it come from somewhere else?
promoters give them $ for permission to use their name and rnu a show.
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promoters give them $ for permission to use their name and rnu a show.
So, its basically the promoters that are cheap?
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Actually I don't understand why they don't double the price money.
Where will this money come from? Out of thin air?
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they can't even get the 2 biggest events in bodybuilding on TV..there are like 300 channels that broadcast crap like "ice fishing" and "learn how to train your pet hamster"...yet bodybuilding they won't air.
That's because professional bass fishers aren't juiced to the gills.
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Yeah, but obviously the Weiders are extremely wealthy! Do they shell out the cash for competitions or does it come from somewhere else?
Yes, the Weiders are extremely wealthy Jewish people. It's no different than any other competitive event in the world. Football team owners can afford to pay more, but that doesn't mean they should. If bodybuilders aren't satisfied with their current levels of compensation, they can cease from competing in the future and the business model would have no choice but to adapt to this new input and adjust wages accordingly. It is really simple economics, which is why I don't understand why people continue to discuss it.
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McFarland is an upcoming bodybuilder maybe he can shine some light on this subject.
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Where will this money come from? Out of thin air?
That's how Jewish financial interest groups earn money through usury - this is done through fractional reserve banking which is essentially earning interest on money loaned which was created out of thin air.
PS - Yes, I've been talking to Woten. ;D
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...Jewish people.
WTF does that have to do with anything?
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WTF does that have to do with anything?
I've been speaking in depth with Woten. ;D
Any chance he gets unbanned? ???
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I've been speaking in depth with Woten. ;D
Any chance he gets unbanned? ???
So, I assume you do not like Jewish people?
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they can't even get the 2 biggest events in bodybuilding on TV..there are like 300 channels that broadcast crap like "ice fishing" and "learn how to train your pet hamster"...yet bodybuilding they won't air.
Exactly - it's like when you see people like Hide get vilified for taking gear through an airport yet actors, singers, and other celebrities get glamourised for taking coke and heroin. It fucking pisses me off.
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Better to juice to look more impressive in your field of choice than compete in stupid bodybuilding contests that no one cares about.
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http://www.getbig.com/headlines
With Victor out of the lineup, some people are going to be very happy. Victor's injury possibly cost him $130,000.
Here is the prize breakdown for the Arnold Classic...
Arnold Classic GB Breakdown
Best Poser $10,000
1st Place $130,000 plus Audemars Piquet Watch
2nd Place $70,000
3rd Place $50,000
4th Place $30,000
5th Place $15,000
6th Place $10,000
7th Place $1,000
8th Place $1,000
9th Place $1,000
10th Place $1,000
11th Place $1,000
12th Place $1,000
13th Place $1,000
14th Place $1,000
15th Place $1,000
Do people even wear watches anymore? Everyone I know carries a cell phone; I gave up watches more than 15 years ago.
As usual, we have a joker that compares bodybuilding, a niche sport, to the biggest two sports in the US. Enough already!
We have an event that gives the pros some of the richest prize money out there, so just be happy! When you can garner a television deal, and bring 30-60 thousand people per game to the event, then we can talk.
You hit the nail on the head. Body building is more appropriately compared to niche events like fencing, archery, ping pong, or other third tier sports. What is the prize money like in those competitions?
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I bet professional ping pong players make more money than pro bbers. Look at Forest Gump :)
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So, I assume you do not like Jewish people?
No. But opposing views on the holocaust are actually punishable by prison time in other countries? ??? If it is so obvious that the official story is accurate, what's the problem with the alleged nuts who feel otherwise? We are brainwashed to believe certain things to be true in life - for instance, that all races are equal. Woten has introduced me to a series of perspectives that the media and public education system tries very hard to hide. Personally I do not find myself agreeing with Woten often, but I find it reprehensible that such opposing viewpoints need to be censored.
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Absolutely pathetic prize money for what is supposed to now be the premier event in bodybuilding. 5th place only nets you 15K. What a joke.
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No. But opposing views on the holocaust are actually punishable by prison time in other countries? ??? If it is so obvious that the official story is accurate, what's the problem with the alleged nuts who feel otherwise? We are brainwashed to believe certain things to be true in life - for instance, that all races are equal. Woten has introduced me to a series of perspectives that the media and public education system tries very hard to hide. Personally I do not find myself agreeing with Woten often, but I find it reprehensible that such opposing viewpoints need to be censored.
Well, if you believe that we are all not equal, read Nietzsche :)
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they can't even get the 2 biggest events in bodybuilding on TV..there are like 300 channels that broadcast crap like "ice fishing" and "learn how to train your pet hamster"...yet bodybuilding they won't air.
I agree, there has to be some network willing to broadcast a bbing show. What happened to the days of American Muscle on ESPN? We need someone to push for bbing to be on TV. Someone needs to figure out how to make bbing more appealing to watch on TV. They need to do what the UFC did with the Ulitimate fighter show
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No. But opposing views on the holocaust are actually punishable by prison time in other countries? ??? If it is so obvious that the official story is accurate, what's the problem with the alleged nuts who feel otherwise? We are brainwashed to believe certain things to be true in life - for instance, that all races are equal. Woten has introduced me to a series of perspectives that the media and public education system tries very hard to hide. Personally I do not find myself agreeing with Woten often, but I find it reprehensible that such opposing viewpoints need to be censored.
A lot of people have these views, dolt. It's just that you can't be out and about in real life expressing them.
I doubt Woten campaigns actively to question the official Holocaust story in real life.
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Well, if you believe that we are all not equal, read Nietzsche :)
Will do. Thanks for the reference.
A lot of people have these views, dolt. It's just that you can't be out and about in real life expressing them.
I doubt Woten campaigns actively to question the official Holocaust story in real life.
I think it should be perfectly alright to express your views in real life. That is what free speech is all about.
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Good luck being branded as some nutty pariah..
Seriously, free speech is important. But Woten presents points from very extreme view points; which of course he's entitled to do. It wouldn't work on anyone in real life unless you were a real charmer and could undue peoples' own views on matters that have been influenced by much greater forces.. Like the media(jews) and social norms.
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Ive heard of promoters walking away from the competition with less money then they walked in with....Ofcourse i doubt that is the case with the bigger shows....I wonder how the athletes get paid if the promoter is in the red....
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I agree, there has to be some network willing to broadcast a bbing show. What happened to the days of American Muscle on ESPN? We need someone to push for bbing to be on TV. Someone needs to figure out how to make bbing more appealing to watch on TV. They need to do what the UFC did with the Ulitimate fighter show
the elephant in the room is the drug element..everyone knows that other athletes in other sports use PED but that is implicit...where as in bodybuilding it is explicit!
you can take any 160 "warrior" and teach him BJJ, boxing, wrestling or any other trendy sport on TV in a given time period..but with BB you can't take that same warrior and make him gain 40lbs of muscle and not have the DEA breaking down your door..
so that rules out any kind of ultimate fighter show..
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Not bad, so far the Arnold has proved to be the most lucrative of events and also the one with the most dignity involved.
At least if you win the Arnold, you know that it wasn't due to a muscletech contract or to the fact that someone from upstairs approved of it. Hell, if Victor won last year, with all the heat he has been getting, you know it had to be a fair contest based solely on bodybuilding, so I applaud it..
It might not be GREAT money, but, hypothetically speaking, the winner can truly make $150,000 in one night. $130,000 from first prize, $10K after you pawn that useless watch and then another $10K if you pull a Kai Green and master the posing round.
If not for the Arnold, this sport would be a joke, because the Olympia is already fixed as EVERYONE knows...
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Pricemoney is everything. Rise it and the sport will become bigger. Would be interesting and see what happend if the winner got 1 000 000 dollar. Thats enough to be financially independent fort the rest of the life. Both Arnold and the Weider brothers can afford that with no problems.
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Tell you what I'd like to see, is the lower placings earning a min of $4-5K...after all...it is a invitational event. $1,000 is pathetic.
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Whilst I havent maxed out, But I did easily get 225 for 113 a few weeks ago and last week I did 420 for 5 easily.
I am quite Sure I could do 500 or so right now and I am leaner than the Mr. Getbig Contest.
I call bullshit.
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like mattc said they dont generate enough money to raise the pricemoney so how could they....
bb is cult allways has allways will be. sad but true. takes a certain individual to be into this sport (no i dont mean the fags)
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Tell you what I'd like to see, is the lower placings earning a min of $4-5K...after all...it is a invitational event. $1,000 is pathetic.
At least all the men make something. The women beyond 6th don't get a dime. 1k is better than nothing.
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If the competitors don't like what they are making, they are free to stop competing and pursue something else.
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Do people even wear watches anymore? Everyone I know carries a cell phone; I gave up watches more than 15 years ago.
1) Watches are jewelery as much as timekeepers.
2) What's easier if you want to know the time... glancing at your wrist, or digging a cell phone out of your pocket?
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At least all the men make something. The women beyond 6th don't get a dime. 1k is better than nothing.
ANYONE who's invited to compete at a contest should be bringing home something.....this will be in with the new proposals I'l be submitting for the next pro league meeting...
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ANYONE who's invited to compete at a contest should be bringing home something.....this will be in with the new proposals I'l be submitting for the next pro league meeting...
hey Bob just out of curiosity why did they get rid of the Escalade as part of the prize for the Olympia?
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I can not understand that myself why the prize money for the Arnold is so small compare to likes of the Olympia.The women who finsh below sixth i think that they should get something like 900 dollars.
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my 20 year old rolex looks good next to a blackberry
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hey Bob just out of curiosity why did they get rid of the Escalade as part of the prize for the Olympia?
White guys are contending for the title now... they wouldn't be caught dead in an Escalade.
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Good luck being branded as some nutty pariah..
Seriously, free speech is important. But Woten presents points from very extreme view points; which of course he's entitled to do. It wouldn't work on anyone in real life unless you were a real charmer and could undue peoples' own views on matters that have been influenced by much greater forces.. Like the media(jews) and social norms.
Woten is at times ridiculous to debate with. He completely rules out environment, expectation effects, and self fulfilling prophecies as reasons why black people do not do as well in life as white people.
Let me tell you this as a matter of fact: if anyone here who is white walked around in a "black suit" (like Gwyneth Paltrow's fat suit in "Shallow Hal" (2001)) you WILL be treated worse. This type of effect has been studied and proven empirically so how Woten discounts it makes no logical sense at all. On the other hand, he does have some compelling arguments in his favour.
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hey Bob just out of curiosity why did they get rid of the Escalade as part of the prize for the Olympia?
That was from a specific sponsor (company)...they decided not to continue with the sponsorship a few years back.
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Thus, Wooten might be right that the AVERAGE IQ difference between blacks and whites is there, but a lot of it is not due to genetics but the social conditions that FAILS to MAXIMIZE the genetical capabilities in the brain in those early years.
Who cares WHY it is? Whether it's due to nature or nuture, that doesn't change the fact that black adults, on average, are still dumb as dirt compared to their white or asian contemporaries.
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Who cares WHY it is? Whether it's due to nature or nuture, that doesn't change the fact that black adults, on average, are still dumb as dirt compared to their white or asian contemporaries.
True.
The POINT that "liberals" (i.e., not neocons) like myself make is to just give them a damn chance. If they are bad genetically as it is, is it going to HELP or HURT to push them and bother them and criminalize them every chance you get? ::)
As strong and confident that I am, when put in a situation where people had doubted me or tried to see the worst in me, it was hard even for ME to rise above that. I can't imagine how difficult it must be for someone who has never learned to be strong and thus knows nothing else but to fall into the traps others force them into.
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True.
The POINT that "liberals" (i.e., not neocons) like myself make is to just give them a damn chance. If they are bad genetically as it is, is it going to HELP or HURT to push them and bother them and criminalize them every chance you get? ::)
"Criminalize" them? Seems to me they criminalize themselves when they commit crimes. ::) The metro area I live in is less than 20% black, yet something like 2/3 of the armed robberies are committed by blacks. This must be the white man's fault, right? ::)
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"Criminalize" them? Seems to me they criminalize themselves when they commit crimes. ::) The metro area I live in is less than 20% black, yet something like 2/3 of the armed robberies are committed by blacks. This must be the white man's fault, right? ::)
You yourself eluded to drug laws being ridiculous in another post. Drug laws are unevenly applied to black people.
So a black man gets a conviction for a personal possession of marijuana. As such he is given conditions and court dates which he breaches which leads to a more severe penalty. From there it is more difficult to get a job due to his record and the cycle continues. Now you may say it is his fault for breaching, but my point is he shouldn't have been charged with the "crime" of drug possession to begin with, and had he not been, he never would have missed court dates or breached. How many episodes of COPS show the pigs (racist cops or otherwise unprofessional cops are pigs in my book) arresting a black person for possession of a marijuana pipe?
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http://www.getbig.com/headlines
With Victor out of the lineup, some people are going to be very happy. Victor's injury possibly cost him $130,000.
Here is the prize breakdown for the Arnold Classic...
Arnold Classic GB Breakdown
Best Poser $10,000
1st Place $130,000 plus Audemars Piquet Watch
2nd Place $70,000
3rd Place $50,000
4th Place $30,000
5th Place $15,000
6th Place $10,000
7th Place $1,000
8th Place $1,000
9th Place $1,000
10th Place $1,000
11th Place $1,000
12th Place $1,000
13th Place $1,000
14th Place $1,000
15th Place $1,000
To put this in proper perspective...
In 1995 (the first time the winner of the AC got six figures) Mike Francois won $100,000, which in today's dollars is $131,176. That's right. They're actually earning less (or basically the same) as they did 13 years ago. There's essentially been no gain in the top prize in 13 years. (And yes, you also get the watch, but you have to pay taxes on it)
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This thread went far away from its main subject: You and Vince Basile >:(
Yes, I would swallow his sperm for money.
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Eh, its more along the lines that the Weiders are multi millionaires and can only shell out 155,000$ for the olympia. Not a joker, but its disgusting how the Weiders are probably SO filthy rich and the competitors suffer.
The Olympia is promoted by AMI Media, providing currently $725,000 in prize money. No other show does that in bodybuilding. The Weider sold their magazine, equipment and supplement companies for money based on a product. They made their empire, they sold it, it is the American way. The Weiders provide equipment for various gyms around the world, which cannot afford it, and many other charitable events.
Exactly - it's like when you see people like Hide get vilified for taking gear through an airport yet actors, singers, and other celebrities get glamourised for taking coke and heroin. It fucking pisses me off.
Yes, I agree with you here. Crucity Hide while the myriads of actors and musicians on drugs is ok in our culture. Steroids is rampant in every sport. Simple as that.
with the alleged nuts who feel otherwise? I think it should be perfectly alright to express your views in real life. That is what free speech is all about.
Different thread to be debated on, but free speech doesnt constitute blatant lies, slander, especially when it comes to war and genocide. Free speech. There are limits. Debate yes. Yelling 'fire' in crowded theater. No. But again, debate for a different thread on the political forum, perhaps.
Drug laws are unevenly applied to black people
Different debate for a different thread. But if you get caught with intent to distribute, it is applied equaly. Do they weight if you had past priors. Most likely.
We need someone to push for bbing to be on TV. Someone needs to figure out how to make bbing more appealing to watch on TV.
Much harder than it sounds. You can get a bodybuilding program on television, but you need also to help guarantee that there will be advertisers for the product. If you can't get enough advertisers willing to pay money for television, you don't get a show.
the elephant in the room is the drug element..everyone knows that other athletes in other sports use PED but that is implicit...where as in bodybuilding it is explicit
Bingo! So many people use steroids, from high school, to basketball, to football, to even bowling to gain strength.
Not bad, so far the Arnold has proved to be the most lucrative of events and also the one with the most dignity involved.
Once again, in terms of prize money, the Olympia beats it, but both shows are excellent for the bodybuilders. Here is the breakdown for the 2007 Olympia, and most likely 2008 too.
http://www.getbig.com/news/2008/01/20080121olympia.htm
Again, a show and its prize money can only do well if it is sposored by advertisers who are willing to put down money for it, and beleive it its product. Bodybuilding is a niche sport, as are many other niche sports out there.
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1) Watches are jewelery as much as timekeepers.
2) What's easier if you want to know the time... glancing at your wrist, or digging a cell phone out of your pocket?
I (and most of the men I know) gave up jewelery when we were club kids in college. Remember that gold chain we all used to wear? Oh boy! ::)
Moving between my house, my car, my office, and other places where time pieces are on display I have never had to look at my cell phone to know the time. Someone gave me a "fancy" watch as a gift a couple years ago. I accepted it graciously, but it is still in the original box and sitting on a shelf in my closet.... Shoot! I should have used xmas as an excuse to regift it. Come December, someone is going to get a watch as a gift. :D
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Come December, someone is going to get a watch as a gift. :D
hey stud.
PM me for a good mailing address.
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Different thread to be debated on, but free speech doesnt constitute blatant lies, slander, especially when it comes to war and genocide. Free speech. There are limits. Debate yes. Yelling 'fire' in crowded theater. No. But again, debate for a different thread on the political forum, perhaps.
Actually, the American propaganda machine lies about the death toll in other countries all the time. If lying wasn't a part of free speech, than basically any religion would be banned.